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The whole deal with Daniel Bryan, two years in a row now, is actually history in the making. If Daniel Bryan does indeed headline his second consecutive Wrestlemania, his name will be remembered for generations to come. Why?
Because something like this never happened before.

WWE has had a plethora of underdogs in the past, but none of them, comes close to D-Bry's level of popularity at the moment.

Last year we saw Daniel Bryan being added to the title match and this year we might witness it again. Just think about it. Nobody said anything about Mick Foley not being part of Wrestlemania XV's main event. Nobody said anything about Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit not being part of Wrestlemania 21's main events. Hell, Benoit didn't even have a noticable feud for that Wrestlemania. Nobody said anything about Jeff Hardy not being part of Wrestlemania XXV's main event. The situation was even worse back then, since we got Randy Orton vs Triple H as the main-event of Wrestlemania, a match we'd seen countless times in the past. Nobody said anything about CM Punk not being in the main event of Wrestlemania 29. About the later one, there were complains, but the event didn't change.

So, what has happened now? Why all of a sudden there's this big fuss about Daniel Bryan? I don't understand it myself either. Are we really so tired of WWE's crap? How can, a guy like Daniel Bryan, have the power to change two 'Mania main-events, without even doing politics.
It's insane. It's historical. In the long-term, I believe this will be, a crucial point in wrestling history.
 
If Daniel Bryan does get into the main event at Wrestlemania, it will prove to the fans that they can get whatever they want simply by booing at a live event.

Bad move from WWE to hand over that power to the fans. Stop it now and make a point that although they listen to the fans, they are not in charge.
 
Not sure exactly what history you're trying to point out, but if Bryan does end up in the headline match at Mania he joins an elite list of WWE performers:

The only men to compete in the final match at WrestleMania in two or more consecutive years are Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Yokozuna, Bret Hart, Steve Austin, The Rock, and Triple H.

HBK, Undertaker, Andre, Piper, DiBiase, Warrior, Sid, Jericho, Foley, Angle, Edge, Batista, Lesnar, and Orton are among the list of former Mania headliners to never accomplish this feat.
 
How is Daniel Bryan headlining Wrestlemania this year again? I'm pretty sure that he's not walking out of Fastlane the number one contender. That would pretty much make the Rumble a meaningless event from now on, which is bullshit in itself.

Vince has said he doesn't want another triple threat match, so unless Reigns is going to be kidnapped, have some mysterious injury he'll be headlining, not Bryan.
 
How is Daniel Bryan headlining Wrestlemania this year again? I'm pretty sure that he's not walking out of Fastlane the number one contender. That would pretty much make the Rumble a meaningless event from now on, which is bullshit in itself.

Vince has said he doesn't want another triple threat match, so unless Reigns is going to be kidnapped, have some mysterious injury he'll be headlining, not Bryan.

Check out the thread in the WrestleMania XXXI section. If a report from yesterday is correct then, as of yesterday, the match will be another triple threat match. I agree that this does undermine the integrity of the Royal Rumble but, at the same time, it's a good example of Vince no longer having his finger on the pulse of the modern wrestling fan. IF Vince ultimately books it a triple threat match or puts Bryan into the match instead of Reigns, then I'm guessing it'll be because Vince doesn't have faith that Reigns will be able to gain the support by WrestleMania and/or he's been convinced by someone that Reigns isn't ready.

I think what the OP is trying to get at in terms of this being "historical" is that fans ranging from average to hardcore, to men, women & kids haven't all rallied around one guy like Bryan in this situation. In some programs, Bryan will be cast in the role of an underdog because he's not a 6'4" 250-275 pound rack of muscle but, in the minds of MANY fans, that shouldn't keep him from being in the top tier of the WWE.
 
I swear I hate DB fans. They just completely double talk. Since he has terrible mic skills they say well he is NOT supposed to be too good on the mic. Since him fighting anyone just looks ridiculous they bring up MMA and how little guys can beat big guys ( which is just plain STUPID by the way). Finally they talk about how they hate Cena and Roman for ALWAYS winning and being SUPER HEROES but they see absolutely nothing wrong with him submitting Orton, cleanly beating Cena, submitting Batista, single handedly beating Evolution in one night fir the title, pinning Mark Henry, the Big Show and Kane and last night beating 5 GUYS BY HIMSELF!!!!

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

It's just so sickening how stupid snarks are! Not everyone has to main event. Ricky Steamboat is considered one of the best all around wrestlers ever. He NEVER headlined WM. JYD? Nope. Tito Santana.... Uh huh.... Mr. Perfect... Naw...

But DB has to every year or the WWE is burying him. It just really ruins the show. You guys say Roman is getting pushed down your throats......

Well what about the few of us who thinks DB is corny....

We just have to eat that huh because that is what Y'all LIKE so than how is that any different from the E pushing what they like?

I cannot believe it's a year later and we may have to go through this BS all over again for NO REAL REASON!!!!
 
I think what the OP is trying to get at in terms of this being "historical" is that fans ranging from average to hardcore, to men, women & kids haven't all rallied around one guy like Bryan in this situation.

Yes, I can see that being the case......yet, even as we think about that, the statement comes to mind: "But if the chant (Yes!") had never come into being, would this whole 'get behind little Daniel' thing' be sweeping the wrestling world now?" I say "No!"

The chant is everything and everything is the chant. If there's anything "historic" about all this, it's that the Daniel Bryan Experience seems to be a case in which Vince McMahon and his writers hadn't planned to build so much around Bryan after he returned from injury, but for once, the company is responding to what the fans want to see. Now, that's historic.

I have absolutely nothing against Daniel; I think he's done a great job with what Creative has given him. But, as I see it, the real reaction to him started with the "No!" chant that became "Yes".

Had it not been for that, he might still be jobbing to the Sin Caras of the business, as he did early in his WWE tenure. But in the light this is being looked at in this topic, events are historic, although maybe not for the reasons postulated by the OP.
 
Well, I guess if there's any silver lining in this it's that Triple threat matches are unpredictable and somewhat more entertaining than one on one matches, as well as the fact that it makes it no DQ. Plus there's still the chance of Rollins cashing in, so I can get into this match.
 
Not sure exactly what history you're trying to point out, but if Bryan does end up in the headline match at Mania he joins an elite list of WWE performers:

The only men to compete in the final match at WrestleMania in two or more consecutive years are Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Yokozuna, Bret Hart, Steve Austin, The Rock, and Triple H.

HBK, Undertaker, Andre, Piper, DiBiase, Warrior, Sid, Jericho, Foley, Angle, Edge, Batista, Lesnar, and Orton are among the list of former Mania headliners to never accomplish this feat.

John Cena also did it, on more than one occasion. He was in the final match at 22 and 23, then again at 27, 28, and 29.

As for the Royal Rumble meaning nothing if Bryan gets to headline again...so what? The Royal Rumble has been meaningless ever since 2006, when it was changed from "the winner gets a title shot in the main event of WrestleMania" to "the winner gets a title shot in A main event of WrestleMania...but it will probably be in the middle of the card, or in the opening match". 2006 destroyed the Royal Rumble match's prestige.
 
John Cena also did it, on more than one occasion. He was in the final match at 22 and 23, then again at 27, 28, and 29.

Yeah Cena is an obvious one, but by the time I realized I had accidentally omitted his name from the first list it was too late for me to go back and edit. Good call throwing him in though. Amazing that at 30 Mania's that is an accomplishment shared by only eight men(with Bryan potentially being the ninth).

The fact that guys like Taker and HBK never did it considering their all-time high level status with the company, and even moreover their synonymousness(or synonymity?) with the event, is shocking.
 
I can't be the only person who really doesn't wanna see this again. I don't dislike Bryan but he isn't a better fit for Mania than just about anyone else. Aside from Cena and Orton, he's the number 3 most built guy. He's a 4 time world champion, he's main evented Wrestlemania.

On the active full time roster, who else has headline Mania like Bryan has? 29 was Cena's year. 28 was Rock. 27 was Miz/Rock. 26 Undertaker. 25 Triple H. 24 Undertaker again. 23 was Cena. I mean really, the last 10 Manias have ended with these guys. Yet not a single one had as big a Mania moment as Bryan did last year! He doesn't need another one!

I say push Bryan down the fans throats until they turn on him and then turn Bryan super Cena face, really give the fans no reason to like him. Have a triple threat at Mania 32: Cena, Bryan and Reigns. You bet Reigns' will get cheered
 
If I were booking the event I would have a WM10 scenario. Have Heyman and Lesnar cut a series of promos saying he could beat the entire locker room one by one and how dominant he is and it's all believably with the way they've built him starting with breaking HHH and HBK arms and then ending the streak.

I would have the second match on the card be Lesnar vs. Reigns and have Lesnar win. I would later have Daniel Bryan vs. Lesnar as the Main Event. I would personally have Brock win both but wouldn't mind Daniel getting his justice either.

The following night on RAW Reigns turns heel and helps his ex-compatriot Rollins decimate Bryan and steal the belt setting up a 6 month feud between Rollins and Bryan. You could even transition Reigns into a feud with Cena to get him more over.
 
If I were booking the event I would have a WM10 scenario. Have Heyman and Lesnar cut a series of promos saying he could beat the entire locker room one by one and how dominant he is and it's all believably with the way they've built him starting with breaking HHH and HBK arms and then ending the streak.

I would have the second match on the card be Lesnar vs. Reigns and have Lesnar win. I would later have Daniel Bryan vs. Lesnar as the Main Event. I would personally have Brock win both but wouldn't mind Daniel getting his justice either.

The following night on RAW Reigns turns heel and helps his ex-compatriot Rollins decimate Bryan and steal the belt setting up a 6 month feud between Rollins and Bryan. You could even transition Reigns into a feud with Cena to get him more over.

This is the best idea I've read on this thread. It's been so long since WrestleMania 10 that the possibility of separate title matches never entered my mind. This is an awesome way to go, I like this booking.
 
Wow nice stats!

Bryan is doing fine I don't get the hate on him or Roman Reigns and i'm sick of "seeing" it.

Look I blindly hated on him when he got to wwe with he came back though he showed why people called him the best wrestler. Then he got a beard said yes and never looked back.

He doesn't need go win the title however a does deserve a chance to win it, the whole hijacked thing will be justified if he does.
 
Lol times have truly changed when fans don't want to see Daniel Bryan in a Wrestlemania main event. I don't mind just seeing Reigns vs Lesnar but I will never complain about Daniel Bryan being in a wrestlemania main event, I don't care how many years in a row it happens.
 
The whole deal with Daniel Bryan, two years in a row now, is actually history in the making. If Daniel Bryan does indeed headline his second consecutive Wrestlemania, his name will be remembered for generations to come. Why?
Because something like this never happened before.

WWE has had a plethora of underdogs in the past, but none of them, comes close to D-Bry's level of popularity at the moment.

Last year we saw Daniel Bryan being added to the title match and this year we might witness it again. Just think about it. Nobody said anything about Mick Foley not being part of Wrestlemania XV's main event. Nobody said anything about Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit not being part of Wrestlemania 21's main events. Hell, Benoit didn't even have a noticable feud for that Wrestlemania. Nobody said anything about Jeff Hardy not being part of Wrestlemania XXV's main event. The situation was even worse back then, since we got Randy Orton vs Triple H as the main-event of Wrestlemania, a match we'd seen countless times in the past. Nobody said anything about CM Punk not being in the main event of Wrestlemania 29. About the later one, there were complains, but the event didn't change.

So, what has happened now? Why all of a sudden there's this big fuss about Daniel Bryan? I don't understand it myself either. Are we really so tired of WWE's crap? How can, a guy like Daniel Bryan, have the power to change two 'Mania main-events, without even doing politics.
It's insane. It's historical. In the long-term, I believe this will be, a crucial point in wrestling history.

Social media and PR are bigger than ever. During the Attitude Era, people didn't have access to the information and outlets to express themselves like they do now. Could you imagine like how Bryan's Yes chant went viral where you got them chanting it at a Michigan State basketball game that if the 90s had that social media, the number of much more influence certain superstars like Mankind would have? People would have videos/pics of Mr. Socko, chokeslamming each other to mimick Kane etc.
 
Hbk is the one where its a bit different... As a celeb match went on last rather than "the other title match". It was also the first time the title didn't....
 
Hbk is the one where its a bit different... As a celeb match went on last rather than "the other title match". It was also the first time the title didn't....

WrestleMania 8's WWE Championship match didn't go on last, Hogan/Sid did (although that was before the Royal Rumble winner getting a title shot became traditional). HBK also had the favor paid back to him later when HBK/Taker II headlined over both World Championships at WrestleMania 26. But Rey Mysterio, Undertaker, Edge, Alberto Del Rio, and Sheamus all got their title matches in matches that weren't the final match. To me every time that happened it diminished the prestige of the Royal Rumble Match.
 
If Daniel Bryan does get into the main event at Wrestlemania, it will prove to the fans that they can get whatever they want simply by booing at a live event.

Bad move from WWE to hand over that power to the fans. Stop it now and make a point that although they listen to the fans, they are not in charge.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

What about Daniel Bryan "earning" a WM main event, rather than being given one because a small minority of fans cry like little girls when they don't get their own way. IN my mind, it will make Daniel Bryan's legacy "questionable".

Vince opened Pandora's box last year by changing the main event then. If he had stuck to his guns, and booked Batista v Randy Orton, then maybe some people wouldn't buy the Network, but , long term, it would nip this in the bud,, because fans would stop hijacking shows if it doesn't work anyway.

Once Vince catered to this small fan base, then it became the case of the "tail wagging the dog". You give an inch, they take a mile. Giving them Bryan last year didn't stop the bad tide, it made the fans' arrogance even worse.

WWE should say "You had your turn last year. Now it is OUR turn to have what WE want. Take it or leave it".

The fallout to sticking to their guns won't be as bad as people here make out. Just keep Bryan out this year, and show who actually runs the show. WWE can survive if a few losers drop off.
 
Couldn't have said it better myself.

What about Daniel Bryan "earning" a WM main event, rather than being given one because a small minority of fans cry like little girls when they don't get their own way. IN my mind, it will make Daniel Bryan's legacy "questionable"..

Once Vince catered to this small fan base, then it became the case of the "tail wagging the dog". You give an inch, they take a mile. Giving them Bryan last year didn't stop the bad tide, it made the fans' arrogance even worse.

Small minority :wtf: ...Yeah ok lol. 90% or more of the fans who BUY TICKETS are the ones cheering for Daniel Bryan and wanting someone TALENTED to headline WrestleMania. They would have been just as happy with Dolph Ziggler, or Dean Ambrose. WWE could have pulled a big swerve and had someone like Bad News Barrett or Antonio Cesaro win it, and fans would have been happy. Fans just don't want an untested rookie, who has proven thus far that he CANNOT deliver as a singles star, to headline the biggest show of the year. It's that simple.
 
Truthfully, I understand why Vince doesn't want another Triple Threat match main-eventing Wrestlemania twice in a row. It's a bit overkill; don't you think? Personally, I rather see a one-on-one (DB or Reigns versus Lesnar) or a Fatal-4-Way with Orton thrown in. There has only been one Mania that main-evented one (WM16 a.k.a. Wrestlemania 2000).

I would have Rollins trying to get payback on Reigns from his match with Bryan, then Orton comes out out nowhere and hits the RKO on Rollins before he can interfere. Orton then comes to the ring and RKOs both Bryan and Reigns. The reason why, he never got his rematch from last year's WM. Since the match ended undecided, Triple H announces that the main event at WM will be between Lesnar versus Reigns versus Bryan versus Orton in a Fatal-4-Way match at Wrestlemania. Eventually, the winner (preferably Orton)will get cashed-in on by Rollins. This will much set up a feud between Reigns, Orton, and Rollins for most of the year. The new MITB winner (preferably Ambrose will be waiting in the wings).
 

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