WWE Superstars Tweet About Last Night's Impact

[itssoeasy123]

What do you mean "constantly"? TNA doesn't live to insult WWE. The only times I remember someone from TNA mocking WWE is when they fucking deserved it.

Anderson ranted on them, and they deserved it. Anderson got screwed out of a good, well paying job and a possible bright future with the WWE by Orton.

Bischoff mocked WWE for their guest host idea, which is as moronic as it gets.

Taz mocked WWE for firing Danielson over choking someone with a tie. That was plain dumb.

Then we have the Sting promo which was a total knock on WWE, and with the recent rumors of Sangriento being Spike's idea, I won't be surprised if this is too. THAT was unnecessary (even though I thought it was fun to fuck with the smarks).

Wrestling Matters is also a knock on the WWE, and they once again deserve it. Removing wrestling from the name and not calling your guys wrestlers? That's shitting on the business. Even Randy fucking Orton mocked it on an interview he did recently.

I think TNA should keep shitting on WWE when they mess up, and WWE fans shouldn't be so butt hurt when someone points out actual flaws. Tell you what, if WWE started shitting on TNA you'd all be hopping, skipping and jumping. Laughing your asses off. Would YOU say it makes WWE look pathetic and second rate? I doubt it.

Jabs like that are fun and I wish WWE would grow some balls and throw a few. I like that bickering between companies. It's fun to watch. Go tell that "it's pathetic" hogwash to Bischoff. He made a career out of being sleazy like that and I love every minue of it.

WWE turned too many fans into *****es. Everyone's politically correct now. Everyone's about respect and honor and love and peace. **gags**

Why should WWE care about TNA? It's like MLB thinking that one day the minor leagues can become competition. TNA right now has it's core fanbase and it's seems that's all they want to have.

Not call their guy's wrestlers? Well, on the contrary I've been hearing the word "wrestler" said even more lately than ever before, even Vince McMahon said "another wrestling organization." Punk said it in his shoot, Cena said he was a "porfessional wrestler," once in 2 different promo's over in Australia. It's called "taking something out of proportion," and it's just what TNA did.

Anderson's carrer screwed by Orton?

Bischoff moked WWE for having guest host, then a few month's later have second rate clebrities J-Woww and Angelina. Hypocritial.

 

[MB1025]

I think TNA should keep shitting on WWE when they mess up, and WWE fans shouldn't be so butt hurt when someone points out actual flaws. Tell you what, if WWE started shitting on TNA you'd all be hopping, skipping and jumping. Laughing your asses off. Would YOU say it makes WWE look pathetic and second rate? I doubt it.

Jabs like that are fun and I wish WWE would grow some balls and throw a few. I like that bickering between companies. It's fun to watch. Go tell that "it's pathetic" hogwash to Bischoff. He made a career out of being sleazy like that and I love every minue of it.

Remember Kaval? WWE fans had a hard on for days after that shit. Everyone was on Kavals dick naming in the next great thing in WWE. We see how that turned out.

 

[maxparrott]

I see what you mean but if your theory were true, don't you think Punk would mentioned TNA in his promo? He was there before. It would be an obvious option for him if he left WWE (Kayfabe or Reality wise)

When Kaval did his rap on NXT and said "Total Non Stop Action" Micheal Cole quickly said "That was stupid. That rap could get him fired!"

WWE sees TNA but they see them as a threat if you mention it and give them any exposure. I honestly think WWE looks at TNA as a bomb that COULD explode if they hit stride like they have been in the last 4 weeks.

I agree with you to an extent. Could TNA compete with Smackdown (ratings wise) week in and week out? Yes, it's possible. In the next ten years, will TNA overtake WWE as a company? Not a chance. Over the next 20 years? Not with kids being raised on WWE (thank you PG era, geez, it's almost like somebody was planning ahead).

In 20 years I'll be 51, not exactly pro-wrestling's key demographic. In 20 years all those 5 year olds you see with John Cena shirts will be 25: right in the meaty part of wrestling's 18-34 demo.

Do I watch TNA? Sure, off and on. Do I enjoy it? Sometimes, or I wouldn't watch it. Do I think it has the potential, in it's current state, to be the #1 wrestling company in the world? No chance, and I don't think Vince sees a chance, either.

WWE basically ignores TNA. The analogy somebody made of MLB and minor league baseball is correct to an extent. I see it more like Walmart vs a mom-and-pop shop. Walmart may know they exist. Some Walmart staff may shop at the mom-and-pop shop, think it has better products, and tell people how great it is. Does this mean that this mom-and-pop shop will overtake Walmart someday? Probably not. It's just there to satisfy a niche of people fed up with Walmart.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I agree with you to an extent. Could TNA compete with Smackdown (ratings wise) week in and week out? Yes, it's possible. In the next ten years, will TNA overtake WWE as a company? Not a chance. Over the next 20 years? Not with kids being raised on WWE (thank you PG era, geez, it's almost like somebody was planning ahead).

In 20 years I'll be 51, not exactly pro-wrestling's key demographic. In 20 years all those 5 year olds you see with John Cena shirts will be 25: right in the meaty part of wrestling's 18-34 demo.

Do I watch TNA? Sure, off and on. Do I enjoy it? Sometimes, or I wouldn't watch it. Do I think it has the potential, in it's current state, to be the #1 wrestling company in the world? No chance, and I don't think Vince sees a chance, either.

WWE basically ignores TNA. The analogy somebody made of MLB and minor league baseball is correct to an extent. I see it more like Walmart vs a mom-and-pop shop. Walmart may know they exist. Some Walmart staff may shop at the mom-and-pop shop, think it has better products, and tell people how great it is. Does this mean that this mom-and-pop shop will overtake Walmart someday? Probably not. It's just there to satisfy a niche of people fed up with Walmart.

I don't agree with that "the kids will grow up and watch it forever" concept. It will backfire. How? The kids that watch it religiously now will smarten up as they grow older. If the product is the same as it is now in 10 years the kids that are now teenagers and adults will put WWE in the exact same position it is now.

Think about it. I was a kid during the Attitude Era and I loved that shit. I grew up with it as well. I was a casual fan up to 2007. I also got back to watching wrestling in 2007 because they stopped airing it in my country in 2002-ish, and I had no internet back then. .Still, in 2007 I was getting all excited about everything, then I smartened up (as a person), and 2 years later I was sick of it because it went too kiddy kiddy. When you grow up and transition from a kid to a teenager to a man you wanna go as FAR as possible from all the childish stuff and the teenager crap. You wanna be a man now, an adul, a big guy, and you can't stomach the kiddy shit much. Not everyone, but a lot of people.

There always comes a point when those kids will smarten up and WWE will have to replace them with new ones. Some will keep watching, some will stop and go do something else. It's a risky thing, not too sure if it'll work. It won't unless the WWE takes today's kids, waits 'till they grow up, then introduces an edgier product to keep them around and then pile adults on that edgier product.

 

[The Future Rises]

What do you mean "constantly"? TNA doesn't live to insult WWE. The only times I remember someone from TNA mocking WWE is when they fucking deserved it.

Anderson ranted on them, and they deserved it. Anderson got screwed out of a good, well paying job and a possible bright future with the WWE by Orton.

Bischoff mocked WWE for their guest host idea, which is as moronic as it gets.

Taz mocked WWE for firing Danielson over choking someone with a tie. That was plain dumb.

Then we have the Sting promo which was a total knock on WWE, and with the recent rumors of Sangriento being Spike's idea, I won't be surprised if this is too. THAT was unnecessary (even though I thought it was fun to fuck with the smarks).

Wrestling Matters is also a knock on the WWE, and they once again deserve it. Removing wrestling from the name and not calling your guys wrestlers? That's shitting on the business. Even Randy fucking Orton mocked it on an interview he did recently.

I think TNA should keep shitting on WWE when they mess up, and WWE fans shouldn't be so butt hurt when someone points out actual flaws. Tell you what, if WWE started shitting on TNA you'd all be hopping, skipping and jumping. Laughing your asses off. Would YOU say it makes WWE look pathetic and second rate? I doubt it.

Jabs like that are fun and I wish WWE would grow some balls and throw a few. I like that bickering between companies. It's fun to watch. Go tell that "it's pathetic" hogwash to Bischoff. He made a career out of being sleazy like that and I love every minue of it.

WWE turned too many fans into *****es. Everyone's politically correct now. Everyone's about respect and honor and love and peace. **gags**

Well like I mentioned in my post they did a McMahon-HHH skit for no fucking reason once just look it up, and Orton and Anderson was Orton's fault, why would anyone blame the company for something their second biggest star made look like a hurting accident? seriously, Orton isn't the whole fucking company you know.

Vince McMahon himself just said "wrestling" in last week's RAW, which shows that this thing isn't even taken seriously and that it isn't gonna go on much longer.

TNA needs to mention WWE to get attention, they're attention ****es, and I used to actually watch the program before Hogan, Flair, and the other washed up old guys came in to steal some spotlight and TV time out of the younger guys.

 

[sfury2005]

Well, I admit I'm not a TNA fan, but the way TNA just constantly insult WWE when there stars are prasing there company makes me sick, seriously, not one time did TNA mention WWE with praise, I realize they just wanna beat the strong competition but insulting them really is just gonna get you less fans who are huge fans of the other company, just watch there fake Vince McMahon and Triple H invasion skit, seriously, if that's a company that wants to get taken seriously then they shouldn't pull pathetic stuff like that, all they need to do is focus on there own program, in my opinion the WWE paved the way for TNA or Impact! Wrestling or whatever, so they should atleast show respect, even if they wanna beat them in ratings and gain more fans.

Hmmmm TNA/IW is pathetic for their HHH/McMahon skit? So then in your opinion I guess WWE must have been real pathetic back in the late 90's when they were doing the Billionaire Ted skits taking shots at Hogan and others who went to WCW. Wait if I remember correctly HHH and DX even went so far as to show up outside a WCW arena with a jeep or a tank or something taking cheap shots at WCW.

I don't watch WWE so therefore I don't rag on them so why do people who don't watch TNA/IW constantly come to this forum and badmouth it?

 

[The Future Rises]

I don't watch WWE so therefore I don't rag on them so why do people who don't watch TNA/IW constantly come to this forum and badmouth it?

Maybe the fact that this topic involved the WWE? yeah.. that's definitely it.

 

[sfury2005]

Maybe the fact that this topic involved the WWE? yeah.. that's definitely it.

And what's the excuse on other threads in this forum that have nothing to do with WWE?

 

[The Future Rises]

And what's the excuse on other threads in this forum that have nothing to do with WWE?

Meh.. I honestly have no idea who does that, probably fanboys, I'm not a fanboy, and I don't hate TNA, I just think it's pathetic that they mock the WWE every now and then, instead of that they should just focus on their own product, like I said I hope that company gets better, but for now I'm not watching anything with Hogan on it, I actually used to watch TNA, oh how I miss the days of the Angle/Joe feud, but Hogan ruined it for me.

 

[Wolf Pac]

Hmmmm TNA/IW is pathetic for their HHH/McMahon skit? So then in your opinion I guess WWE must have been real pathetic back in the late 90's when they were doing the Billionaire Ted skits taking shots at Hogan and others who went to WCW. Wait if I remember correctly HHH and DX even went so far as to show up outside a WCW arena with a jeep or a tank or something taking cheap shots at WCW.

I don't watch WWE so therefore I don't rag on them so why do people who don't watch TNA/IW constantly come to this forum and badmouth it?

I don't think the HHH/McMahon skit is what makes TNA pathetic, it's the fact they just copy everything the WWE has done is what makes em pathetic.

 

[The Future Rises]

I don't think the HHH/McMahon skit is what makes TNA pathetic, it's the fact they just copy everything the WWE has done is what makes em pathetic.

Now hold on like I said I'm not a TNA fan but they have had some good original ideas, just look at their Ultimate X match, it's a great concept.

I just wonder when Hogan is gonna finally realize that he isn't doing the company any good and leaves already, I heard Flair is still wrestling? Yeah I think he needs to leave too, Bischoff ok I'll admit he's a great personality and can actually help the company, but Hogan and Flair I heard they were hogging the spotlight, so I hope they leave, they really just have no business stealing TV time from the talent that actually works hard and wrestles to be the best, when are they going to realize that their time is up and their not helping TNA one bit.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I don't think the HHH/McMahon skit is what makes TNA pathetic, it's the fact they just copy everything the WWE has done is what makes em pathetic.

Name 5 things that TNA is currently copying.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Now hold on like I said I'm not a TNA fan but they have had some good original ideas, just look at their Ultimate X match, it's a great concept.

I just wonder when Hogan is gonna finally realize that he isn't doing the company any good and leaves already, I heard Flair is still wrestling? Yeah I think he needs to leave too, Bischoff ok I'll admit he's a great personality and can actually help the company, but Hogan and Flair I heard they were hogging the spotlight, so I hope they leave, they really just have no business stealing TV time from the talent that actually works hard and wrestles to be the best, when are they going to realize that their time is up and their not helping TNA one bit.

You heard Flair is still wrestling? How about you watch the damn show and then say who should leave and who shouldn't?

For the record, Flair hasn't wrestled since Lockdown, and it's not like he was doing much before that. He's been putting people over since he came to TNA, period. That's not "stealing the spotlight", that's GIVING them the spotlight.

Hogan on the other hand isn't stealing anything. Quit using this horrible, overblown and overused term. Hogan got 35 seconds of TV time this week. He usually cuts the occasional promo and it's to hype the Main Event. He's not wrestling, he's not in EVERY segment anymore, and he's not even talking as much as he used to because now he has Bully Ray, Anderson, Steiner and even Gunner to do the talking for him. Shut up about it already. Hogan stays, period.

Think of it from a business perspective. Despite Hogan's personal issues, Hogan's still a house hold name. Always will be. Imagine a business meeting between a bunch of sponsors and TNA management. If Dixie walks in and tells her company's story they wouldn't give a fuck. Now Hogan comes in and they're all ears. Name recognition. TNA has the biggest name in the business, and firing him? Is TNA so much better and bigger than legends like Hogan all of a sudden?

They're showcasing him just enough. Not too much, and not too little. He's not stealing anyone's spotlight, all the young guys are getting their matches and their promos when they're needed. Case closed, end of story, the end, fin, period.

 

[The Future Rises]

You heard Flair is still wrestling? How about you watch the damn show and then say who should leave and who shouldn't?

For the record, Flair hasn't wrestled since Lockdown, and it's not like he was doing much before that. He's been putting people over since he came to TNA, period. That's not "stealing the spotlight", that's GIVING them the spotlight.

Hogan on the other hand isn't stealing anything. Quit using this horrible, overblown and overused term. Hogan got 35 seconds of TV time this week. He usually cuts the occasional promo and it's to hype the Main Event. He's not wrestling, he's not in EVERY segment anymore, and he's not even talking as much as he used to because now he has Bully Ray, Anderson, Steiner and even Gunner to do the talking for him. Shut up about it already. Hogan stays, period.

Think of it from a business perspective. Despite Hogan's personal issues, Hogan's still a house hold name. Always will be. Imagine a business meeting between a bunch of sponsors and TNA management. If Dixie walks in and tells her company's story they wouldn't give a fuck. Now Hogan comes in and they're all ears. Name recognition. TNA has the biggest name in the business, and firing him? Is TNA so much better and bigger than legends like Hogan all of a sudden?

They're showcasing him just enough. Not too much, and not too little. He's not stealing anyone's spotlight, all the young guys are getting their matches and their promos when they're needed. Case closed, end of story, the end, fin, period.

Well sorry if I was misled by what I heard from a lot of people who actually watch TNA, my friends included.

And I didn't say anything about firing Hogan, just him leaving, I can't stand him, he's done a lot if things in the past that were D!ck moves.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Well sorry if I was misled by what I heard from a lot of people who actually watch TNA, my friends included.

And I didn't say anything about firing Hogan, just him leaving, I can't stand him, he's done a lot if things in the past that were D!ck moves.

Are your friends ... trucks? And people wonder why TNA's ratings are not improving much when people like you exist. Judging the place by what others have said about it and drawing conclusions. Use your fucking brains people. Stop trusting people's opinions. Are you a robot or an individual?

Firing, leaving, either way he'll be gone from the company in your world.

And wait, you hate the guy because he's done a lot of dick moves in the past? Are you sure you're hating him for real, or you just want to hate him? Who hasn't done dick moves in the past? Especially in wrestling.

The most important thing is if he's doing dick moves NOW. From what I've been reading, he hasn't. He's done nothing but helping TNA in every way possible. Judging by the quality of the recent shows and the fact that TNA is going on the road more, it doesn't seem like he's killing or hurting the company. Everything indicates that the company is doing better than ever with Hogan on board. Not saying it's because of him, but it sure as fuck shits on IWC's opinion of Hogan and his negative impact on the company.

Why do people like you dislike guys like Hogan for such idiotic reasons? Serious question here. Where's your common sense? Yeah he's done dick moves. As a person, I think he's a piece of turd. As a WRESTLING FAN I mark the fuck out whenever his music hits. Always liked Hogan, always will. I respect the heck out of him as a wrestler. The guy can barely walk right now and the fact that he's like that in order to give my sorry ass some epic moments kind of makes me like him more.

He's not wrestling, he's only cutting the occasional promo and he's pretty darn good at it. He's a great heel and a great face, even at this stage of his life. He's mentoring the younger guys and helping the company out. So where the fuck does this urge to have Hogan leave come from? Did he rape your cat or something?

 

[The Future Rises]

Are your friends ... trucks? And people wonder why TNA's ratings are not improving much when people like you exist. Judging the place by what others have said about it and drawing conclusions. Use your fucking brains people. Stop trusting people's opinions. Are you a robot or an individual?

Firing, leaving, either way he'll be gone from the company in your world.

And wait, you hate the guy because he's done a lot of dick moves in the past? Are you sure you're hating him for real, or you just want to hate him? Who hasn't done dick moves in the past? Especially in wrestling.

The most important thing is if he's doing dick moves NOW. From what I've been reading, he hasn't. He's done nothing but helping TNA in every way possible. Judging by the quality of the recent shows and the fact that TNA is going on the road more, it doesn't seem like he's killing or hurting the company. Everything indicates that the company is doing better than ever with Hogan on board. Not saying it's because of him, but it sure as fuck shits on IWC's opinion of Hogan and his negative impact on the company.

Why do people like you dislike guys like Hogan for such idiotic reasons? Serious question here. Where's your common sense? Yeah he's done dick moves. As a person, I think he's a piece of turd. As a WRESTLING FAN I mark the fuck out whenever his music hits. Always liked Hogan, always will. I respect the heck out of him as a wrestler. The guy can barely walk right now and the fact that he's like that in order to give my sorry ass some epic moments kind of makes me like him more.

He's not wrestling, he's only cutting the occasional promo and he's pretty darn good at it. He's a great heel and a great face, even at this stage of his life. He's mentoring the younger guys and helping the company out. So where the fuck does this urge to have Hogan leave come from? Did he rape your cat or something?

..You mad?

For the record I did watch one episode of TNA this year and I wasn't impressed, I don't like the product currently, It's my opinion, don't bash me for it.

And if I want to hate Hogan I'll hate Hogan, I have my reasons, but I don't feel like posting all of them now, who hasn't done D!ck moves in wrestling? Undertaker, Kane, John Cena, Daniel Bryan AKA Bryan Danielson, The Rock, Andre, Piper, etc.. , maybe they have made some D!ck moves, but Hogan made so many and they're so bad that most of the IWC hate him for it.. don't judge us cause we're not judging anybody or anything.. just voicing our opinions.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

..You mad?

For the record I did watch one episode of TNA this year and I wasn't impressed, I don't like the product currently, It's my opinion, don't bash me for it.

And if I want to hate Hogan I'll hate Hogan, I have my reasons, but I don't feel like posting all of them now, who hasn't done D!ck moves in wrestling? Undertaker, Kane, John Cena, Daniel Bryan AKA Bryan Danielson, The Rock, Andre, Piper, etc.. , maybe they have made some D!ck moves, but Hogan made so many and they're so bad that most of the IWC hate him for it.. don't judge us cause we're not judging anybody or anything.. just voicing our opinions.

If you don't like it, then what the hell are you doing in the TNA forums? I know it's a discussion, but how exactly can you discuss something you're not at all familiar with? I didn't like TNA the first time I saw it. Know why? 'Cause I was still in WWE mark mode. Then I smartened up, gave TNA a chance and low and behold I was inlove with the company within a week. It's amazing what using your brain can do. You could find something you can really enjoy, but a lot of people won't let themselves do that. Real sad.

Cena didn't make dick moves? Go ask Mr.Kennedy/Anderson how he feels about John Cena. Just look it up. You think Cena's a saint? Yeah, just as much as all of the past "faces" of the company are. Hogan is a saint. Michaels is a saint. Rock is a saint. I'm pretty sure Mick Foley enjoyed 10 unprotected chair shots to the dome. Give me a break. If you judge wrestlers by their dick moves, then you're not far from being a dick yourself, and it's fans like you that make all of us look bad. You're not a part of the business, your job is to sit there and watch the shit. Statements like that turn you into a smark of the worst variety and you lose all and every credibility you had. Dick moves ... please. You're just looking for reasons to jump on the "Let's hate Hogan" bandwagon. Pathetic.

The two biggest dicks in the business are arguably two of the best wrestlers in the business. One of them is the biggest draw, the other one is the best wrestler as a whole package. Hogan and HBK. Do you hate HBK? He made a lot of dick moves in the past. If you hate Hogan for it, you should hate HBK too. Or is this selective outrage time? I'm just looking for a little consistency here. Maybe you wouldn't have such a high opinion of Hogan if he was struttin' around RAW instead of Impact Wrestling, eh?

Yes you have right to voice your opinion. And I have every right to shit on it, question it and your poor common sense.

 

[The Future Rises]

If you don't like it, then what the hell are you doing in the TNA forums? I know it's a discussion, but how exactly can you discuss something you're not at all familiar with? I didn't like TNA the first time I saw it. Know why? 'Cause I was still in WWE mark mode. Then I smartened up, gave TNA a chance and low and behold I was inlove with the company within a week. It's amazing what using your brain can do. You could find something you can really enjoy, but a lot of people won't let themselves do that. Real sad.

Cena didn't make dick moves? Go ask Mr.Kennedy/Anderson how he feels about John Cena. Just look it up. You think Cena's a saint? Yeah, just as much as all of the past "faces" of the company are. Hogan is a saint. Michaels is a saint. Rock is a saint. I'm pretty sure Mick Foley enjoyed 10 unprotected chair shots to the dome. Give me a break. If you judge wrestlers by their dick moves, then you're not far from being a dick yourself, and it's fans like you that make all of us look bad. You're not a part of the business, your job is to sit there and watch the shit. Statements like that turn you into a smark of the worst variety and you lose all and every credibility you had. Dick moves ... please. You're just looking for reasons to jump on the "Let's hate Hogan" bandwagon. Pathetic.

The two biggest dicks in the business are arguably two of the best wrestlers in the business. One of them is the biggest draw, the other one is the best wrestler as a whole package. Hogan and HBK. Do you hate HBK? He made a lot of dick moves in the past. If you hate Hogan for it, you should hate HBK too. Or is this selective outrage time? I'm just looking for a little consistency here. Maybe you wouldn't have such a high opinion of Hogan if he was struttin' around RAW instead of Impact Wrestling, eh?

Yes you have right to voice your opinion. And I have every right to shit on it, question it and your poor common sense.

Why the hell am I in the TNA forums? For the second time it's beause this thread has something to do with WWE stars.

Why am I still here discussing TNA? Well you replied to me when I posted my opinion actually defending TNA too when one person said they were copying the WWE in everything they do.

When I posted all those other wrestlers, I said sure maybe they made some dick moves but NOT as bad as Hogan, all I know about HBK is that he used to be a dick but he actually grew a set during his career threatening injury that made him retire for years before coming back, Hogan on the other hand pisseed me off when he made the jump to TNA, one of the reasons why is because WWE made him a house hold name, what does he do in return? Jump to the rival companies, he went to WCW in the 1999's and now TNA, in an attempt to "beat" the WWE in ratings, well TNA is no competiton for the WWE in my opinion, just not yet.

And if you're gonna get pissed off everytime someone has a different opinion then yours, then I suggest you leave, cause this is freaking wrestling FORUM everyone has different opinions, learn to respect their opinions instead of getting pissed off, you have the right to shit on it, but if you do then that would make you a dick not me, you don't see me going around telling people to use their brains and insulting their common sense just cause they have a different opinion, I could do it cause most of the people here say things that I don't agree on, but I respect their opinions, and I don't bash them for it and go on an angry rant like a little kid.

You think I don't like TNA cause I'm a WWE mark? Yeah, that's not it at all, I used to like it, I used to watch it, Hogan came in, then I stopped watching after seeing what the Hulkster done, seriously TNA was so unique with the six sided ring, and he just had to change it, not only that but the quality just changed, and I stopped watching, it's that simple, I don't hate TNA, I'm just not a fan of the product anymore, stop saying I don't give it a chance too cause last time I did I wasn't impressed, you wanna watch it fine, I'm not gonna bash you go ahead, see it's that simple, end of arguement.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Why the hell am I in the TNA forums? For the second time it's beause this thread has something to do with WWE stars.

Why am I still here discussing TNA? Well you replied to me when I posted my opinion actually defending TNA too when one person said they were copying the WWE in everything they do.

When I posted all those other wrestlers, I said sure maybe they made some dick moves but NOT as bad as Hogan, all I know about HBK is that he used to be a dick but he actually grew a set during his career threatening injury that made him retire for years before coming back, Hogan on the other hand pisseed me off when he made the jump to TNA, one of the reasons why is because WWE made him a house hold name, what does he do in return? Jump to the rival companies, he went to WCW in the 1999's and now TNA, in an attempt to "beat" the WWE in ratings, well TNA is no competiton for the WWE in my opinion, just not yet.

And if you're gonna get pissed off everytime someone has a different opinion then yours, then I suggest you leave, cause this is freaking wrestling FORUM everyone has different opinions, learn to respect their opinions instead of getting pissed off, you have the right to shit on it, but if you do then that would make you a dick not me, you don't see me going around telling people to use their brains and insulting their common sense just cause they have a different opinion, I could do it cause most of the people here say things that I don't agree on, but I respect their opinions, and I don't bash them for it and go on an angry rant like a little kid.

Ah! I gotcha. So you're just a wittle mad because Hogan jumped to other companies and turned his back on teh WWEz. Well, tell you what. If Hogan didn't jump to WCW there would most likely never be an nWo (at least not the one we know). He would've never turned heel, shock the world, you know the story. No nWo, no Attitude Era (well actually no ECW no Attitude Era but you get my drift). No Attitude Era, no WWF. I doubt they would be as big as they are now if it wasn't for WCW proving to be a tough foe.

But I get it, you can't get your head out of Vinnie and his precious WWE's ass, and that's fine. Lord knows you're not the only one. It's impossible to argue with people like you, so this discussion is over. I proved my point.

P.S: I'm not mad or pissed. I just voice my opinions in a harsh-er manner than most people whether it's written or not. I don't have an issue with people disagreeing with me. I have an issue with ignorant opinions. Stupid David Icke and George Carlin opened my eyes about a lot of things and I'm now able to detect bullshit easily. Alas, I don't have their patience when it comes to dealing with blockheads. I hope I will as I grow older. But as of right now, you're a moron, your opinions suck, they're biased, skewed and that's that.

 

[Brian in Austin]

Now, the last time someone from WWE tweeted about what they saw on Impact...It was Stone Cold and Randy Orton. Does it mean they are gonna jump ship? Of course not. They respect the talent and the company of TNA but are happy in WWE.

So, let me ask this....Why the fuck does everyone have to pick a "side" of a company? Why not enjoy ALL wrestling? WWE fans (typical kids and childish adults) feel obligated to watch WWE only and not enjoy products of TNA and ROH.

Trish Stratus works for WWE and appeared backstage at the TNA House Show in Toronto a few weeks back. If the wrestlers don't act like "rivals" to other wrestlers in different companies, then why do fans have to make it that way? It ruins your enjoyment for each product.

It doesn't ruin it at all for me and I suspect it's the same for most fans. I don't 'need to' like one brand or the other, or one more than the other. I understand that you don't like it when people criticize TNA but most of the criticism is warranted. But WWE programming is just as ripe for criticism and I have no problem with people who complain about their product either. My view is you need to grow thicker skin and not take it so personally when people do criticize TNA.

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

Ah! I gotcha. So you're just a wittle mad because Hogan jumped to other companies and turned his back on teh WWEz. Well, tell you what. If Hogan didn't jump to WCW there would most likely never be an nWo (at least not the one we know). He would've never turned heel, shock the world, you know the story. No nWo, no Attitude Era (well actually no ECW no Attitude Era but you get my drift). No Attitude Era, no WWF. I doubt they would be as big as they are now if it wasn't for WCW proving to be a tough foe.

But I get it, you can't get your head out of Vinnie and his precious WWE's ass, and that's fine. Lord knows you're not the only one. It's impossible to argue with people like you, so this discussion is over. I proved my point.

P.S: I'm not mad or pissed. I just voice my opinions in a harsh-er manner than most people whether it's written or not. I don't have an issue with people disagreeing with me. I have an issue with ignorant opinions. Stupid David Icke and George Carlin opened my eyes about a lot of things and I'm now able to detect bullshit easily. Alas, I don't have their patience when it comes to dealing with blockheads. I hope I will as I grow older. But as of right now, you're a moron, your opinions suck, they're biased, skewed and that's that.

A to the Men, Zevon_Zion strikes again and I like it. I love it when marks who think they know IT ALL about wrestling can't be fans first and foremost. Yeah opinions are all well and good and we have the right to have them, but when your opinions are not grounded on your own experiences and what not, then they are stupid, biased and skewed like Zeven said.

There are a plethora of things about both organizations I can go on and on about all day not liking. But my biggest pet peeves are when people bitch because a WWE guy said something related to TNA/Impact Wrestling or vice versa...boo hoo. If you marks feel you have the right to an opinion then WWE stars should have a right to tweet about the WWE and vice versa. Fuck it, if that's what your concerns are rooted in, then it's obvious you probably do very little viewing of the actual wrestling product and all you care about is just the "drama" of it all. If that's your bag go and fucking watch Jersey Shore or Keeping Up With the Kardashians.

Again I am with Zeven on being a harsh poster, because quite frankly the majority of posters on this forum deserve it. XTheFutureX, itssoeasy123 are a couple of posters on this forum that make my stomach turn. Yeah we get it that you two don't like TNA, we completely understand that, but god I just love how WWE can never look like they are doing any wrong or haven't done any wrong in your eyes. Seriously guys, you both need to go through the archives of (W)WWF/E before you decide to rip apart the TNA product. Period. Then again, itssoeasy123 was the same user in previous posts that finds David Arquette's title win reprehensible (it was ridiculous no doubt) but couldn't answer my counterpoint about how the Katie Vick Necro Saga about ten years back was no better. Let's be serious for a moment, if WCW did the Katie Vick storyline we'd never hear the end of it, but fans that only like WWE will never dare admit such infamous stunts.

Brian In Austin on the other hand is a user I don't agree with on every point, but he can hold his own in a discussion and I give him credit, therefore I can't say a bad thing about how he feels about wrestling because I feel he always presents a solid and tactful case. Period.

So before anyone here wants to label me a TNA mark just because I said this, I will gladly have a discussion with you either on these forums or will provide you my AIM SN via PM and we can go back and forth ad nauseum over wrestling history and what not. I can guarantee you that I'll be on the honor system and not resort to google because I come from a time as a wrestling fan that we didn't have such a luxury unlike most of these marks do today. And speaking of Brian In Austin:

It doesn't ruin it at all for me and I suspect it's the same for most fans. I don't 'need to' like one brand or the other, or one more than the other. I understand that you don't like it when people criticize TNA but most of the criticism is warranted. But WWE programming is just as ripe for criticism and I have no problem with people who complain about their product either. My view is you need to grow thicker skin and not take it so personally when people do criticize TNA.

Brian you are right about that, the criticisms towards TNA have been warranted at times. Several times, like I had mentioned in other posts I can't say I like everything about TNA, and like you said WWE deserves the criticisms too when appropriate of course. I'm of the mind that every organization at one time or another has done stuff to frustrate its fan base. It's just that in my experiences most often those who deride one organization will never admit fault with other organizations and trust me I think there have been extremes in both the TNA (where TNA has never done any wrong and WWE is the product that sucks) and WWE (Where WWE is the only product to watch and any attempt at competition is always an attempt at being a second-rate rip off) fan camps.

My question at the end of the day is, what's wrong with just liking it all, there's nothing wrong with having your preference in product, but to read the stuff I have from fans who are either staunch WWE or TNA fans is outright ridiculous when you consider the nature of it all. I mean last I heard we live in a society where we got the freedom of choice and variety.

 

[The Future Rises]

A to the Men, Zevon_Zion strikes again and I like it. I love it when marks who think they know IT ALL about wrestling can't be fans first and foremost. Yeah opinions are all well and good and we have the right to have them, but when your opinions are not grounded on your own experiences and what not, then they are stupid, biased and skewed like Zeven said.

There are a plethora of things about both organizations I can go on and on about all day not liking. But my biggest pet peeves are when people bitch because a WWE guy said something related to TNA/Impact Wrestling or vice versa...boo hoo. If you marks feel you have the right to an opinion then WWE stars should have a right to tweet about the WWE and vice versa. Fuck it, if that's what your concerns are rooted in, then it's obvious you probably do very little viewing of the actual wrestling product and all you care about is just the "drama" of it all. If that's your bag go and fucking watch Jersey Shore or Keeping Up With the Kardashians.

Again I am with Zeven on being a harsh poster, because quite frankly the majority of posters on this forum deserve it. XTheFutureX, itssoeasy123 are a couple of posters on this forum that make my stomach turn. Yeah we get it that you two don't like TNA, we completely understand that, but god I just love how WWE can never look like they are doing any wrong or haven't done any wrong in your eyes. Seriously guys, you both need to go through the archives of (W)WWF/E before you decide to rip apart the TNA product. Period. Then again, itssoeasy123 was the same user in previous posts that finds David Arquette's title win reprehensible (it was ridiculous no doubt) but couldn't answer my counterpoint about how the Katie Vick Necro Saga about ten years back was no better. Let's be serious for a moment, if WCW did the Katie Vick storyline we'd never hear the end of it, but fans that only like WWE will never dare admit such infamous stunts.

Brian In Austin on the other hand is a user I don't agree with on every point, but he can hold his own in a discussion and I give him credit, therefore I can't say a bad thing about how he feels about wrestling because I feel he always presents a solid and tactful case. Period.

So before anyone here wants to label me a TNA mark just because I said this, I will gladly have a discussion with you either on these forums or will provide you my AIM SN via PM and we can go back and forth ad nauseum over wrestling history and what not. I can guarantee you that I'll be on the honor system and not resort to google because I come from a time as a wrestling fan that we didn't have such a luxury unlike most of these marks do today. And speaking of Brian In Austin:



Brian you are right about that, the criticisms towards TNA have been warranted at times. Several times, like I had mentioned in other posts I can't say I like everything about TNA, and like you said WWE deserves the criticisms too when appropriate of course. I'm of the mind that every organization at one time or another has done stuff to frustrate its fan base. It's just that in my experiences most often those who deride one organization will never admit fault with other organizations and trust me I think there have been extremes in both the TNA (where TNA has never done any wrong and WWE is the product that sucks) and WWE (Where WWE is the only product to watch and any attempt at competition is always an attempt at being a second-rate rip off) fan camps.

My question at the end of the day is, what's wrong with just liking it all, there's nothing wrong with having your preference in product, but to read the stuff I have from fans who are either staunch WWE or TNA fans is outright ridiculous when you consider the nature of it all. I mean last I heard we live in a society where we got the freedom of choice and variety.

So just cause I don't watch TNA, and I decided to give my honest opinion on it in a WWE related thread, I'm a mark?

Please, I made it clear I'm not a mark, you claim that I'm a WWE mark when I watch all kinds of wrestling and other promotions, I watch ROH, I'm a fan of Indie wrestling, I even watch Chikara at times, I didn't claim I know it all about wrestling, all I did was give my opinion, it's funny how people here all ways judge everyone on being a mark or not, I find it hilarious.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

So just cause I don't watch TNA, and I decided to give my honest opinion on it in a WWE related thread, I'm a mark?

Please, I made it clear I'm not a mark, you claim that I'm a WWE mark when I watch all kinds of wrestling and other promotions, I watch ROH, I'm a fan of Indie wrestling, I even watch Chikara at times, I didn't claim I know it all about wrestling, all I did was give my opinion, it's funny how people here all ways judge everyone on being a mark or not, I find it hilarious.

No, you're not a mark. You're a dmark. If smarks are smart marks, I think you can figure out what the d in dmark stands for.

Hint of the day: it starts with d and ends with umb.

You gave your honest opinion? No, son, you have your honest hunch. You gave your honest salvaging of other dmarks' sentiments. You gave your honest bullcrap.

Plain and simple - don't give "opinions" on things you don't watch. Liking it without watching it, hating it without watching it, it makes no difference. It's bad and ignorant. You cannot possibly take a proper stand on whether Impact Wrestling blows boat people or rocks your socks off if you haven't watched it for at least a month. Yes, an entire month. Three-four episodes. Why? It's a TV show, bucko. Some suck, others rule. The first one I ever saw made me gag.

Then you have storylines. Lots of them. A great deal of content (some good, some bad) to enjoy or detest. A lot of wrestlers to watch. A lot of storylines to see unfold and understand. You need to learn who's the bad guy, who's the good guy. TNA actually has character development, these folks have personal traits (yes, personality! On a rasslin' show? Everyone's not a carbon copy of the next guy? Say whaaaaaaaat?), you need to learn who does what, when and how. See if you like it or not, see if it sits well. There are matches to watch, things to do.

Because if you don't, you watch it once and give up, you'll pull a Josh Isenberg and go "GAH I DUN GIT WHO'Z HEEL AND WHO'Z FACE!". Which by the way is the behavior of a guy who wants to hate TNA. Yes, people like that exist. Not everybody, but there are some twerps who have that mantality. They start watching the show WANTING to hate it, whipping out a magnifying glass and looking for stuff to dislike, turning the smallest flaw into a big deal so after the show's over, despite what happened and if it was good, they can harp, focus and nag about that one tiny thing they didn't like, giving themselves a reason to go "I knew it was gonna suck. Christie Hemme messed her lines up. WHAT A DUMB SHOW! TNA can't do anything right!". And then? Then it's snowball time! We continue! "You know what? It's all Hogan's fault. He put that bitch in that position. Hogan sucks for that. You know what else? Dixie is a mark. She probably was against it but would do anything to keep that old fuck in the company. Who cares about him now? He's old! And he steals the spotlight from the young guys! Ah, I'll go on a wrestling forum and bitch about it for an hour instead of shutting my whopper hole and watching me some WWE or ROH. Anything but that dreck Impact Talking."

Doesn't work that way. Doesn't work that way at all.

 

[The Future Rises]

No, you're not a mark. You're a dmark. If smarks are smart marks, I think you can figure out what the d in dmark stands for.

Hint of the day: it starts with d and ends with umb.

You gave your honest opinion? No, son, you have your honest hunch. You gave your honest salvaging of other dmarks' sentiments. You gave your honest bullcrap.

Plain and simple - don't give "opinions" on things you don't watch. Liking it without watching it, hating it without watching it, it makes no difference. It's bad and ignorant. You cannot possibly take a proper stand on whether Impact Wrestling blows boat people or rocks your socks off if you haven't watched it for at least a month. Yes, an entire month. Three-four episodes. Why? It's a TV show, bucko. Some suck, others rule. The first one I ever saw made me gag.

Then you have storylines. Lots of them. A great deal of content (some good, some bad) to enjoy or detest. A lot of wrestlers to watch. A lot of storylines to see unfold and understand. You need to learn who's the bad guy, who's the good guy. TNA actually has character development, these folks have personal traits (yes, personality! On a rasslin' show? Everyone's not a carbon copy of the next guy? Say whaaaaaaaat?), you need to learn who does what, when and how. See if you like it or not, see if it sits well. There are matches to watch, things to do.

Because if you don't, you watch it once and give up, you'll pull a Josh Isenberg and go "GAH I DUN GIT WHO'Z HEEL AND WHO'Z FACE!". Which by the way is the behavior of a guy who wants to hate TNA. Yes, people like that exist. Not everybody, but there are some twerps who have that mantality. They start watching the show WANTING to hate it, whipping out a magnifying glass and looking for stuff to dislike, turning the smallest flaw into a big deal so after the show's over, despite what happened and if it was good, they can harp, focus and nag about that one tiny thing they didn't like, giving themselves a reason to go "I knew it was gonna suck. Christie Hemme messed her lines up. WHAT A DUMB SHOW! TNA can't do anything right!". And then? Then it's snowball time! We continue! "You know what? It's all Hogan's fault. He put that bitch in that position. Hogan sucks for that. You know what else? Dixie is a mark. She probably was against it but would do anything to keep that old fuck in the company. Who cares about him now? He's old! And he steals the spotlight from the young guys! Ah, I'll go on a wrestling forum and bitch about it for an hour instead of shutting my whopper hole and watching me some WWE or ROH. Anything but that dreck Impact Talking."

Doesn't work that way. Doesn't work that way at all.

Another one of your rants.. fine you know what you convinced me I shouldn't give my opinion on something that I don't watch on a weekly basis, last time I watched it it was boring in the episode where Flair told Styles to look at himself in the mirror and decide who he wants to be I thought that was lame, well still that was probably a year ago, so I'll give TN..err.. I mean Impact Wrestling another chance and see if it got any better.

But get this.. I'm not a mark, smark, "dmark", or other of that IWC hot garbage, I'll watch the show next time it's on TV, and I'll come back in this very thread and tell you what I thought of it.

And I actually heard about Bubbah Ray Dudley getting a top heel push there, "Bully Ray" is his gimmick if I'm not mistaken, well I've watched some of his heel work there, he's pretty good on the mic gotta give him that.

 

[Yesiamaduck]

I think the main reason people choose sides is because IMPACT wrestling (where wrestling matters, which they remind us by telling us over and over during promos as opposed to actual wrestling, just saying is all) are a bit childish (no not the content of the product just the way they conduct business) they are sorta like the big bad bully in the school yard that are so busy on focusing on other peoples flaws that they don't realize their own (of which the are plenty in TNA)

TNA just spent a fortune re-branding their product to IMPACT Wrestling: Where Wrestling Matters because the WWE re-branded by simply changing it so WWE had no specific meaning, it didn't mean entertainment it didn't mean world and it didn't mean wrestling, it's now just a BRAND name. The WWE recently has sort of put one over on impact wrestling because all of a suddent they're referring to wrestling again & mentioning other organizations at no extra expense on their behalf to get a point across, IMPACT Wrestling where so keen on going LOOK LOOK LOOK AT THEM haha they don't care anymore but we do, that they probably didn't realize they could of just emphasized more importance on wrestling during the show and would of achieved a far more credible reaction from it.

Also they say 'Where Wrestling Matters' in a company that on average has the weekly show that on average ha the least amount of wrestling on it & book matches quite frequently that take away from the WRESTLING aspect of a WRESTLING show.

The is no denying Impact Wrestling has all sort of potential lying in it's roster but until they start focusing on their own product as opposed to reacting to every single thing that WWE is doing they'll never fulfill it, they don't seem to have a plan for the long term it seems to be based entirely on whats hot in the wwe now or what part of the wwe's running could they exploit right now. I mean if the WWE was like TNA in the next 2 weeks they'd resurrect a character from a blockbuster gone by and give that gimmick to one of their established stars & forget anything they had planned up until that point, thats how Impact currently operate and it doesn't help their business what so ever.

The WWE is a hideously flawed product & I along with many other WWE fans see that, they have moments and seem to have a planned arch which follows wrestling logic to a good enough degree that I can continue watching without getting furious but Impact will frequently rush endings, drag out feuds and completely discard rules just to get the ending the wanted even if it defies all logic or not, WWE has been guilty of this but the rate Impact does it is just appalling. The worst part is that Impact fans seem to think Impact can do no wrong because it's edgier and they have a slogan with the word wrestling in it.