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That's exactly what I meant when I said TNA shoud focus more on their product, but more detailed! You just earned a Rep
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WWE Superstars Tweet About Last Night's Impact
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JJYanks121
The Mouth of the South Shore
So I brought this thread back up because I want to bring up an interesting observation. This thread was made to talk about WWE guys tweeting about TNA. This seems to happen a bit and they praise TNA's workers whenever they want. Thing is, I don't seem to see it the other way around.
Last night, WWE put on a universally praised Pay Per View. Many talents shined, plenty I'm sure have friends in TNA (Punk anyone?). Yet when everyone was tweeting about this amazing event, noticeably silent were EVERY SINGLE TNA STAR! Not one TNA star to my knowledge (I follow a good amount of them and didn't see a thing) made a tweet about the show and I'd bet my house that many watched it.
The question I have is why? Why is it ok for WWE talents to tweet praise about TNA but not ok for TNA talents to do the same about the WWE? Is there a gag order in the company to not speak of WWE in a kind light? Are there penalties involved in doing so? Are all the TNA workers huge TNA marks who refuse to say a good thing about WWE just like many on these boards? I'm not sure what it is, but I don't like it.
I feel like as long as these people don't abuse twitter or facebook, they should be able to say what they like. Something is up here and I want to know why praise can't be reciprocated. Let the conversation commence. I'm interested to hear why you think this might be the reality.
Last night, WWE put on a universally praised Pay Per View. Many talents shined, plenty I'm sure have friends in TNA (Punk anyone?). Yet when everyone was tweeting about this amazing event, noticeably silent were EVERY SINGLE TNA STAR! Not one TNA star to my knowledge (I follow a good amount of them and didn't see a thing) made a tweet about the show and I'd bet my house that many watched it.
The question I have is why? Why is it ok for WWE talents to tweet praise about TNA but not ok for TNA talents to do the same about the WWE? Is there a gag order in the company to not speak of WWE in a kind light? Are there penalties involved in doing so? Are all the TNA workers huge TNA marks who refuse to say a good thing about WWE just like many on these boards? I'm not sure what it is, but I don't like it.
I feel like as long as these people don't abuse twitter or facebook, they should be able to say what they like. Something is up here and I want to know why praise can't be reciprocated. Let the conversation commence. I'm interested to hear why you think this might be the reality.
Because they did a show last night. You expect them to DVR A PPV? They do watch WWE but it's mostly the higher ups.
The reason why nobody else comments on WWE is because the last time someone mentioned it (Mickie James) dirtsheets turned it into a "Mickie is sucking WWE's dick and wants to go back" reports.
Why should I as a fan, give WWE any credit when WWE marks cannot give credit to TNA? I'll give my credit when it happens.
The reason why nobody else comments on WWE is because the last time someone mentioned it (Mickie James) dirtsheets turned it into a "Mickie is sucking WWE's dick and wants to go back" reports.
Why should I as a fan, give WWE any credit when WWE marks cannot give credit to TNA? I'll give my credit when it happens.
JJYanks121
The Mouth of the South Shore
This isn't about the fans. I'm asking why no talents praised WWE. You're right, the one time it happened, it was a shitshow, but why? What is the worry if say, Samoa Joe, tweeted about his buddy Punk having a good outing? That's what I'm trying to ask. There's gotta be something going on inside the company that makes it not ok to do it (as evidenced by Mickie), but I'm wondering why that's the case. Why is it not ok for TNA talents to tweet about WWE in a positive light?
I really don't know really. There are some of that keep in contact and there are others who do not. I don't think TNA tells them they can't because if that were the case Trish and Bret Hart wouldn't be appearing at TNA house shows.
They just don't really want too. Kazarian just went on twitter and bashed Sin Cara for stealing his move and getting suspended. Most of them are simply bitter and the blind nonsense WWE gets away with when most of these guys are drilled with "the company you work for sucks and your a nobody" comments.
Most of the guys in the company dislike WWE for using their moves when most are respected enough not to do the same to them or would get heavily criticized.
We already see the amount of shit, Gunner gets for using a move similar to the F5.
I doubt the company has told them not to. Really though how many times have you seen WWE stars say something positive about TNA/IW. I'm asking because I don't follow anyone from either companies twitter so I don't know if they do it a lot.
I mean they gave Mick Foley permission to go to The Rocks birthday party but WWE said no and they didn't tell Ric Flair not to go to WWE HoF. If they allowed them to do that I doubt they would say don't twitter good things about WWE to their wrestlers. But hey, who knows really.
Kenny Powers
Bulletproof Tiger
It is rare to see current TNA talent applaud WWE, but Mick Foley always mentioned them whether he was under contract or not. I have even read some of Matt Hardy's tweets that were positive about WWE and their events which is shocking. The knockouts like Tara, Mickie James and Christy Hemme seem to post lots of pics of them with WWE talent. I really don't think it is a problem as long as talent isn't praising one company more than their own.
I think that the reason why TNA wrestlers have not beened praising the WWE PPV and certain wrestlers is because although it was a good PPV it was NOT the best PPV in a decade or even the year despite what the dirt sheets are saying. WWE has been putting on such shit for so long that once they put on a good PPV everyone is going nuts over itand claiming its epicness.
TNA wrestlers have probably not been praising Punk as they know that he is still with WWE and is just taking a rest from in ring work and travelling. Punk will continue to promote WWE by posting himself with the Title and help WWE get more exposire in the non wrestling world. TNA wrestlers could praise WWE but nothing on the MITB PPV was as good as the contract match TNA had at Destination X. Although Sheamus nearly breaking his neck from a bad fall, Cara being written off TV with a fake injury (why are people not going nuts over HIS drug use) and the Shooting Star from the ladder were fun to see.
TNA wrestlers have probably not been praising Punk as they know that he is still with WWE and is just taking a rest from in ring work and travelling. Punk will continue to promote WWE by posting himself with the Title and help WWE get more exposire in the non wrestling world. TNA wrestlers could praise WWE but nothing on the MITB PPV was as good as the contract match TNA had at Destination X. Although Sheamus nearly breaking his neck from a bad fall, Cara being written off TV with a fake injury (why are people not going nuts over HIS drug use) and the Shooting Star from the ladder were fun to see.
JJYanks121
The Mouth of the South Shore
Yea, maybe I shouldn't have opened this conversation. Rather than having rational discussion as to whether there is some sort of gag order or whatnot, it became a "they aren't praising it because it ain't that good" thing.
My feeling is that good is subjective and that the wrestlers in the industry are probably a better judge of quality ring work than we are no matter how many years we've watched wrestling. Thus, I'd think plenty of wrestlers would have positive things to say about almost every match on Sunday's card if they watched it.
I was merely trying to point out something I observed, mainly that WWE workers seemed quicker to praise TNA than the other way around. Considering the workers are generally friends with each other and don't let company lines determine friendships, I'm sure texts were abound after the show praising their buddies. I simply wondered why WWE guys take to social media to praise TNA when they have some good matches while it doesn't happen the other way around.
So far the only decent explanations we've gotten have explained that Foley, Flair, and other veterans don't toe the company line and do what they want. That's fine, but I'm wondering where the rest are. I follow many TNA superstars on twitter and not one said something about MITB (except Kazarian who's post was about "stealing" moves). It's just surprising to me that it's this way.
To me, it feels petty. I don't have any info, but I'd guess that there's something coming from higher ups telling them not to praise the competition. Quite honestly, I hate that. Do they think praising the competition makes them look worse? It doesn't, and I just ant to see these workers have the freedom to say what they want about anyone they want as long as they don't abuse that right. That's all.
So let's try this one more time. Let's get a real conversation and not a "TNA is better, why should they praise the shitty WWE" conversation.
My feeling is that good is subjective and that the wrestlers in the industry are probably a better judge of quality ring work than we are no matter how many years we've watched wrestling. Thus, I'd think plenty of wrestlers would have positive things to say about almost every match on Sunday's card if they watched it.
I was merely trying to point out something I observed, mainly that WWE workers seemed quicker to praise TNA than the other way around. Considering the workers are generally friends with each other and don't let company lines determine friendships, I'm sure texts were abound after the show praising their buddies. I simply wondered why WWE guys take to social media to praise TNA when they have some good matches while it doesn't happen the other way around.
So far the only decent explanations we've gotten have explained that Foley, Flair, and other veterans don't toe the company line and do what they want. That's fine, but I'm wondering where the rest are. I follow many TNA superstars on twitter and not one said something about MITB (except Kazarian who's post was about "stealing" moves). It's just surprising to me that it's this way.
To me, it feels petty. I don't have any info, but I'd guess that there's something coming from higher ups telling them not to praise the competition. Quite honestly, I hate that. Do they think praising the competition makes them look worse? It doesn't, and I just ant to see these workers have the freedom to say what they want about anyone they want as long as they don't abuse that right. That's all.
So let's try this one more time. Let's get a real conversation and not a "TNA is better, why should they praise the shitty WWE" conversation.
Where the fuck do they show these promos? ONLINE. You watch the show and buy the PPVs if you want ACTUAL wrestling. It's a straightforward concept that nobody seems to understand.
How are they childish? Explain that to me.
Show me so damn proof that TNA rebranded because WWE did. You have any? Because I know you do not.
Their doing a REAL life type storyline. Of course they will talk about other promotions. How the fuck does TNA come into it? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard on this section.
That's a bull shit answer. You know as well as I do, If they decided to start showing more wrestling, people would find an excuse to still not like it.
Everyone wanted a re-brand, now your complaining about it? Make up your damn mind.
"Where Wrestling Matters" = THE ART of wrestling. Signing to wrestle not get a million dollar paycheck, wanting to wrestle with other great talent, wanting to showcase your skills and promo ability. That's all there saying.
It's a fucking 2 hour show with a roster of 50 people. You expect them to show wrestling 2 hours non-stop? It doesn't work that way. You want that, go buy the PPV instead of streaming it like the cheap bastards in the IWC.
How the fuck are they focused on WWE? They have never made any indication since Impact Wrestling of WWE or anything WWE does. Get over it.
Really? Because Crimson, Gunner, Roode, the X-Division are long term and have nothing to do with WWE and are the focus of the fucking show.
What the hell are you talking about?
And why are you still here?
If you really think that, you are a clueless idiot. No offense.
JJYanks121
The Mouth of the South Shore
Mods, I'd like to request that the thread I reopened be closed. If the topic I bring up isn't going to be discusssed and it's going to be regular TNA vs. WWE stuff, I'd rather not have another thread open or be associated with it. So IDR or another mod, please close the thread as it's not serving the purpose I intended for it.
TNA wrestlers do not praise WWE wrestlers because they are scared they will no longer get pushed. They realise that WWE is the powerhouse while they (TNA) are just bush league. Is this what you want to hear JJ? Well I am sure that this could certainly be some of the case. Perhaps the TNA wrestlers are so poorly paid they did not want to waste their money on a WWE PPV with the hope that it will turn out half decent (we all know that would be a risk despite the MITB PPV actually being good). Perhaps though they did not comment as they did not see anything that was that amazing. Yes Punk had created massive hype for the PPV and rightfully so due to HIS epicness however the show itself was not incredible and therefore may not warrant praise from TNA wrestlers. Perhaps TNA wrestlers who are friends with WWE wrestlers did not want the world seeing them praise WWE and instead sent texts to said wrestlers.
Who the fuck knows? But in my opinion (ocassionally humble) TNA wrestlers should not be praising WWE publicly as they are the competition. You do not see McDonalds saying "I ate a Whopper the other day and it was Awesome!". It is simply not good business whether they think it or not.
WWE on the other hand are massive and the occassional Ziggler twitter about an unsigned wrestler who appeared on TNA pulling off great moves will not harm WWE, it may help TNA gain 3 more fans or help Ziggler find a place to work in the future but nothing more.
Yes I prefer TNA to WWE but that does not mean I am trying to turn this (your) thread into a TNA/WWE battle.
Who the fuck knows? But in my opinion (ocassionally humble) TNA wrestlers should not be praising WWE publicly as they are the competition. You do not see McDonalds saying "I ate a Whopper the other day and it was Awesome!". It is simply not good business whether they think it or not.
WWE on the other hand are massive and the occassional Ziggler twitter about an unsigned wrestler who appeared on TNA pulling off great moves will not harm WWE, it may help TNA gain 3 more fans or help Ziggler find a place to work in the future but nothing more.
Yes I prefer TNA to WWE but that does not mean I am trying to turn this (your) thread into a TNA/WWE battle.
Dizzy tried to answer your question and I answered and asked a question because I don't follow anyone on twitter. Kenny Powers seemed to answer your question as well.. I don't think any one of us said WWE Sucks and TNA is great. I thought we answered honestly what you wanted.
You yourself said "I don't have any info, but I'd guess that there's something coming from higher ups telling them not to praise the competition. Quite honestly, I hate that." That sounds like someone wanting to hate on TNA just to be hating on them. You are assuming a lot here and and you know what they say about assuming. Eric Bishoff in an interview last night basically said kudos to WWE for the CM Punk storyline going on.
Maybe it's as simple as they didn't watch it, as Dizzy pointed out they did have a show last night as well and some people don't watch WWE. I know hard for some to believe that but it's true it really is true!
JJYanks121
The Mouth of the South Shore
See that's just it. It's not two corporations. It's two wrestling companies, one much bigger than the other. On top of that, it's a much different kind of business as the higher ups aren't the known entities, the workers are.
I don't want to hear anything. I was merely pointing out that this thread started out discussing how WWE guys were tweeting about TNA's stuff and how people thought it was cool that they did that. I was pointing out that when opportunity arose, and like it or not, the opportunity arose as much of Sunday's Pay Per View was very high quality, not a word was spoken. The church bells were.........not important to this conversation. The point is that we all loved seeing WWE's workers (not WWE) praise TNA's workers (not TNA). I was simply asking why it didn't go the other way.
Just because the companies are "competing" doesn't mean the workers are. They are all very much one in the same, meager souls trying to survive a very difficult business. I just wondered one simple thing. If the answer is "TNA thinks it is bad business to praise the competition so they tell their workers not to", then so be it. I would respectfully disagree, but that's fine. I'm just asking if everyone thinks that is the case here.
JJYanks121
The Mouth of the South Shore
Very fair and maybe that's the case. I was sort of shocked that Bischoff said what he said but he did do that and I was impressed.
I can understand that a good amount of guys didn't watch or didn't want to tweet about it, but I just figured a few might. I didn't see it, so I asked a question.
I appreciate the feedback though and I hope to continue the conversation. Thanks.
I understand. Personally I'm old and don't get into twitter so I don't follow any of them and really wouldn't know that's why I asked if many did tweet things.. But if they did have a house show last night it is possible that many that may have tweeted about it didn't see it due to that. Also several of them seem to have issues with WWE in general ala Angle, Anderson and The Pope so I would think they would be the last to say anything.
But I also think if the company was going to tell them not to tweet about WWE wrestlers praising them they would also be adverse to Flair going to the WWE HoF ceremonies and would have told Foley No you can't go to the Rocks Birthday party. Yet they didn't.
They deserve props for the CM Punk angle if it is an angle and I think it is and not just that he pulled one over on them. I turned on to USA to watch Suits and WWE was still going so I watched the last few minutes of it.
JJYanks121
The Mouth of the South Shore
It's cool. I'm not that young myself anymore (well, depends on who you ask I guess) and was very against twitter for the longest time. However, I work for a sports blogging network and company initiative was to promote via social media. Thus, I join the twitterverse (i think that's what they call it, I have no idea).
Even if I didn't have twitter though, Wrestlezone and other sites seem to use twitter more and more as "news" so you can sort of keep up that way. It became huge and guys open up on it to regular people more than they ever have.
I dunno, I just thought it was something to talk about since we talked about Dolph Ziggler's tweets. Maybe it was a good idea for a conversation, maybe it wasn't. I was just trying to start one.
I don't know why TNA stars don't praise the WWE other than they're the #2 company and growing so maybe they personally feel if they put the WWE over it'll come off bad? Or they figure it isn't worth it. I seem to recall a few times Dixie has showed props to the WWE and fans online went apeshit over it.
As for the WWE
Stone Cold- He isn't a fulltime WWE guy anymore, he's a part time legend that shows up here and there. He's also the guy who went on Byte This a decade ago and said WWE creative sucked before quitting and looked into doing a Austin v.s. Goldberg Independent PPV card away from the WWE in '02. Austin is Austin and says/does whatever he wants.
Orton- What do you expect? Orton tries to come off as this do whatever he wants kinda guy, not a surprise he'd generate interest by mentioning TNA awhile back.
But lets look at the other three....
Ziggler- Pay attention to the tag at the end of it. #seewrestlingcanbefun. I don't know maybe it's me but that whole thing came off to me as Ziggler being unhappy with his current situation and letting it be known.
Gail Kim- An amazing talent that's relegated to Superstars and standing on the outside of the ring in 10 diva tag matches because she isn't a 5'8"+ former model. I'm sure she could care less if it gives her any backstage heat, she's never used anyways.
Tyson Kidd- Another amazing talent who was only brought to the WWE with DH Smith and Natalya to lure Bret back. Soon as Vince got Bret back into the fold those three have also been relegated to the bottom of the pile. I'm sure he could care less at this point either.
Draw your own conclusions on those three, but that Twitter exchange read VERY interesting to me. Three WWE Superstars having a public conversation over the rivals product and how great it is. Not just "hey that was a good match" but "man that show is amazing. See? Wrestling CAN be fun!" Very interesting.
LOL I hear ya on this one man but what do you expect? 90% of the threads in the TNA subforum get hijacked with the same trolling bullshit, honestly why would this one be any different? Especially with such a hot button topic....
