WWE Divas Are Being Cheated - Why Aren't They Getting More Credit?

[Mouthy Idiot]

I was compelled to write this because I know this is a highly debateable topic but one that I believe gets overlooked alot. I know alot of the fans of sports entertainment prefer to watch the guys go at it but im a guy and I have to say that the divas get absolutely no respect or any good angles. The truth is its actually pretty pathetic how Vince and even Stephanie and Hunter and all the power people behind the scenes treat the divas ON AIR in terms of length of their matches on TV and PPV and the storylines. I just think they should either cut ties with the divas division or finally start giving them some respect in regards to their matches.

This whole Eve Torres Hoe storyline is flat out ******ed on so many levels. Thats the only damn way they could "get her over" by making her a Hoe? Its stupid they had to do the shes a ****ty hoe gimmick to make her a heel. Not to sound callous but usually in society women who sleep around and are "hoes" arent considered "heels" by the majority of men , and the wwe fanbase is mostly men. So a hot woman who sleeps with guys is considered a "heel" I find that kind of misleading. Eve now will be branded a "hoe" in real life based on the character she is playing. I heard a big time wrestler one time say that the guys in wwe are usually playing ramped up versions of themselves in real life. So I dont know if Eve has a bad reputation in real life or not but maybe shes a Hoe for real and Vince is kind of burying her with her own bad rep. She doesnt seem like it but she will be considered a "hoe" now and dont forget alot of ppl who watch WWE actually believe its real.

I dont think the divas should main event any PPVs or anything and I certainly doubt they can put on 20 minutes matches but they need more time to shine because its sickening how they only get used in manager/backstage roles or how many times do they have 10 diva tag matches and 20 diva battle royals. Either use them or lose them, Yes I appreciate that they are considered "attractive" and most guys just wanna see them in some hot little outfits and be done with them in 2 minutes but they really do deserve more than that IF you are gonna hire them ., Give them some fucking credit and actually use them. I would say on PPV the divas deserve at least a decent 10 minute title match and on TV they should get around 6-8 minute matches if they arent in the main event on RAW or SD. I am not saying they put on the greatest matches and sometimes they can look choppy but I have seen times where they do a really decent job and they do their best just like the guys. In some ways its their own fault , they choose to be in the WWE which is male dominant and they do get paid very well and they get to do photoshoots and are features in ads and magazines and wwe.com but IN RING they get no respect.

 

[MillionDollarMan]

She's not being portrayed as a hoe. You're way off track. She's being portrayed as a manipulative bitch who tricked Ryder in order to play off his popularity and then tried to move up the ladder on to Cena. If you've never met a woman like this, consider yourself rare.

She's called a hoeski cause it is easy to play off of broski. That's it.

 

[Phoenixjig]

First off, a main event is the main draw. It's usually the final match. The Divas will NEVER main event a WWE program. And second, do you really want to see Kelly Kelly botching moves for 6-8 minutes on Raw or Smackdown? I agree that the matches are too short but they're wrestling skills need major improvement. The only acceptable female wrestlers (with the exception of Natalya and Beth) are in TNA. Mikie James vs Gail Kim on impact a couple of months ago stole the show as far as women's wrestling goes. Maybe Vince should try and get them back.

 

[¡Roján!]

They don't get any respect in-ring because simply put, they don't deserve any. Let's face it, there's no interest in the Woman's division. There hasn't been for the past 5 years or so. Even then, though, did the women sell merchandise? Did the woman sells pay per views? No, no they didn't. Wrestling has always been a man's sport and it always will be. Who tunes in to woman's soccer? Who tunes into female baseball? 40 year-old virgins looking to jack one off to new material. I may come off sounding terribly misogynistic but, the diva's division is for eye candy and eye candy only. Kharma may make a splash and Beth may be able to wrestle a goat and look good doing so, but truth of the matter is only the internet fans care about any of that. A woman's place in a wrestling company is being a valet.

-But, Rohan she could be a caterer!
-Stop being sexist, Hogan!

 

[RKOx7]

First off, a main event is the main draw. It's usually the final match. The Divas will NEVER main event a WWE program. And second, do you really want to see Kelly Kelly botching moves for 6-8 minutes on Raw or Smackdown? I agree that the matches are too short but they're wrestling skills need major improvement. The only acceptable female wrestlers (with the exception of Natalya and Beth) are in TNA. Mikie James vs Gail Kim on impact a couple of months ago stole the show as far as women's wrestling goes. Maybe Vince should try and get them back.

Trish and Lita have squared off in the main event of RAW back in 2004.

I agree that the Divas don't get enough credit for doing something good, and often don't have enough time on screen or just plain lack of respect. I think this can EASILY be remedied with just some extra time, a few mins of promo time and easily building themselves up. The Divas division right now is at an all time low and in some ways, maybe its what they need.

Being at a low means the next step is non existence. All they have to lose is their jobs because the interest people have in them is pretty much next to none. WWE should use that in their favor and maybe go somewhere with it... which I think they're doing.

Eve Torres, in my mind, is not a hoe. The double standard of men sleeping around vs women sleeping around will always exist but... the storyline in my mind is pretty ingenious what they're doing with Eve. It seems for the first time, people are caring and interested in seeing whats going on with Eve + the sexy shit she wears on TV.

I was a little worried at first when John Cena trashed her to nothing but thank god that lasted 1 week and 1 week only and she's moved on from it. She's becoming comfortable in her new role and its starting to feel genuine. John Cena trashing Lita only made any hopes of Lita's reputation returning disappear and I was worried that would be the same for Eve.

The fact is Eve can wrestle, she is a black belt jujitsu trained athlete. She now has a character and personality. Hopefully the WWE continues this in the right direction and starts to develop the rest of the division.

 

[TheChosenOne44]

Quite frankly, I have been a fan for 15+ years and ever since tv-pg has been instituted, the divas have been a complete waste of time. They are a joke. Matches hardly lasting two minutes on raw and barely getting 5-8 minutes on ppvs. Natalya is farting, eve is a hoeski, so many pointless uninteresting storylines. The point is the wwe divas division is not entertaining, its a botchfest and a ratings killer. Give the air time to underutilized talents who CAN entertain. Or bring back bra and panties matches or something a little edgier to keep our attention.

 

[GI Cake]

The reason why Divas get the T.V time and the programs they currently have is because currently none of them are entertaining enough to make use of a decent program or a feud. Kelly Kelly was the Diva's champ for the most part of 2011, and yet no one can remember a single memorable match or a feud. Hell, even Beth Phoenix is having a boring reign as Divas champion. But Eve Torres spends a few weeks with Zack Ryder and then suddenly she is one the most over Divas next to Vicki Guerrero. Before she was a Hoeski, she was BFF's with Kelly, doing close to nothing on WWE T.V. I bet if you asked any Diva in the backstage if they want to be in the same position Eve is currently in, they would take it in a heart beat.

Divas aren't usually ignored and forgotten to the WWE brass. If you have the ability to entertain fans, then you will get time for a feud or a program to work with. Remember some of the great Divas like Lita, Mickie James, and Trish Stratus. They were all entertaining and all got the proper amount of time on T.V because of that. You name three divas that are anywhere near as over as those three then you can go ahead and say the Divas are being misused. But as of right now, I'm perfectly fine with Eve Torres being a Hoeski , hell Rosa Mendez is sadly the best part of the tag team champions.

 

[KenSmellsGood]

There are some women who I've enjoyed watching, but to be completely honest most of them are eye candy at best. A lot of them have talent and ability, but not the kind of talent and ability that makes an exciting match. When they pull off big moves they don't have the "intensity factor." Natalya and Beth Pheonix are decent, and I thought when they paired up both of them were going to get a push but Natalya was left in the dust.

Any time I see a post about a diva getting credit, I cannot help but think of the Wrestlemania 26 botchfest where one move was botched after the other. It was hideous.

 

[JJ15776]

Trish and Lita have squared off in the main event of RAW back in 2004.

And if WWE had divas as talented as them around today, they'd be in a main event themselves. But they don't. Beth Phoenix and Natalya are decent, but they're not in that class. They just look great compared to Kelly Kelly, Eve Torres, the Bella Twins, etc. Those women should not be in the ring. They should not be in the WWE in the PG Era. They're there for eye candy, but you can't take advantage of that in today's WWE. They're useless.

And to the OP, who the hell has Eve Torres slept with? She's a heel because she's an admitted lying, manipulative bitch who uses men to get what she wants. If that's not a heel, what is? And who the fuck thinks WWE is real? Even if there are morons out there that are that stupid, you can't worry about them when you're writing your storylines.

 

[Jerichoholic8894]

I'll be honest, I didn't read that whole rant

The divas don't deserve credit. If John Cena and Randy Orton had a 45 second match every week you wouldn't give them any credit either.

The Divas division died when Lita and Trish retired

 

[Mouthy Idiot]

And if WWE had divas as talented as them around today, they'd be in a main event themselves. But they don't. Beth Phoenix and Natalya are decent, but they're not in that class. They just look great compared to Kelly Kelly, Eve Torres, the Bella Twins, etc. Those women should not be in the ring. They should not be in the WWE in the PG Era. They're there for eye candy, but you can't take advantage of that in today's WWE. They're useless.

And to the OP, who the hell has Eve Torres slept with? She's a heel because she's an admitted lying, manipulative bitch who uses men to get what she wants. If that's not a heel, what is? And who the fuck thinks WWE is real? Even if there are morons out there that are that stupid, you can't worry about them when you're writing your storylines.

I dont know what Eve Torres does in her personal life but clearly shes a highly sought after quasi-famous "Hot" celebrity chick who i am sure gets plenty of male and female admirers. For all I know she might even be a lesbian and doesnt sleep with men. Its just that the current storyline pretty much indicates to me she is sleeping or attempting to sleep with these dudes. In her on screen role only , but again we all know Vince likes to mess around with the talent sometimes and gives them lazy angles and character arcs. Do you guys not know what a "Hoe" is , I mean google it sometime. Again I remember an interview in which a star wwe guy said that the characters they play are usually their own character in real life just times 10. They essentially are the person they play just ramped up so maybe Eve is a "hoeski" or whatever they wanna label it in real life as well. I dont think she is personally but you never know. We all heard about how ****ty Kelly Kelly is so who knows for sure about Eve.

 

[EastCoastFan]

Right now, the biggest problem the Divas have is that they don't have a focal point - there isn't that one person that people really want to see. There have been women who have drawn - Sable, Chyna, Trish, Lita, Lay-Cool - but right now, there isn't someone like that in the company. WWE tried to make Kelly Kelly their "it-girl" last summer, but fans balked when she kept going over on Beth Phoenix. Beth and Natalya are great wrestlers, but neither has that intangible "it-factor".

 

[Jacjac]

First off, the women's division is not intended to be a taken as serious as the business as the meat market of their male counterparts. Women are intended to be the sideshow between matches; sort of like the dancing bear or on air commercial breaks. In order to express their attitude towards women's wrestlers WWE changed the name to "Diva's". Diva's don't wrestle they entertain.

The women's division has been a joke for years now. Poor Amy Dumas didn't have a chance at adequate competition in her days. I'd go as far as to say a dream match would have been Sherri Martel and Lita. If WWE wanted to they could do great things with the division. Of course this would mean they'd have to trade hot asses for serious athletes. Given enough energy, I'd go as far as to say, WWE could create a women's match that could reach undercard status. But they obviously have no intensions of taking the talent they have at their disposal seriously which is illuminated by the farting of Miss. Neidhart or the degrading of Eve. Someone had the nerve to fi their fingers to say how they heard somewhere that the characters are only inflated versions of their true selves. Seriously? Come on!

 

[Wrestlemania 20-0]

i remember an period when WWF was only makes with Alundra Blayze,Bull Nakano and Luna vachon and that's all.
The arrival of Sable has changed when she start with the wild man Marc mero,after the brutal arrived of Chyna.
In the 2000 Vince has the idea to makes the diva search and that's the beginning of the end,it's the same problem when you see the miz with Tough enough.
Theses womens in wrestling poses for Playboy not in rapport with WWE,they lost all credits for this especially for Ashley massaro.

It's sad to say but it's not an good idea because theys deserved an PPV.the writers of the WWE has an responsability for the bad picture they have.

 

[The Scarred One]

I've always been a supporter of the women's/diva's division and I do feel they don't get the attention and respect they deserve. I'm not suggesting putting them in the main event slot, but at least give them more to do on TV every week. The divas can contribute to the product if the WWE gives them the chance, whether it be the in the ring or as valets. With the WWE appealing to kids, some of the divas can appeal to girls much like Cena and Orton can for boys.

The biggest problem with the divas is that there is no one or two divas at the level of Trish Stratus and Lita currently employed. Mickie James and Melina were the top girls, but they're both gone now. The WWE tried and failed to push Kelly Kelly last summer but it just didn't work. She's more Torrie Wilson than Trish Stratus.

I think AJ and Eve could be the new faces of the division if given the chance. They come across as down-to-earth, everyday women to females while coming across as those you'd want to bring home to meet your parents to males. Not to mention, they're both talented and can hold their own in a match without having to be carried. Eve has been trained in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and AJ has been trained by one-time boyfriend Jay Lethal. Currently, they're both being featured quite a lot with Eve's heel turn and AJ's involvement with World Heavyweight Champion Daniel Bryan.

Now as far as Eve goes, it seems to be working as this new role gives her personality. I don't consider her a "hoeski" in terms of sleeping around with men. It's just a play on "broski." If anything, Eve comes across as a maneater. A woman who'll manipulate and play men to get what she wants and toss them aside once she does. There are a lot of women out there like that, so it's not uncommon. More importantly, she's getting a reaction from the crowd, which is always a positive.

I do believe the divas should be given more than what they're currently getting. There are a couple of real standouts down in FCW that could help the division and it'd be a shame to see their talents go to waste.

 

[HardyHater]

Cheated? You're kidding right?

They CAN'T wrestle that's why.
They get passed around like a bong at a college dorm party.
When they make an attempt to simulate wrestling they get hurt.
The days of Lawler yelling "Puppies" is long gone.
They are the number 1 cause of more careers getting squashed ,derailed or snuffed out than injuries ever could.

 

[Steve0904]

Diva's don't wrestle they entertain.

Tell that to Lita or Trish Stratus. Last time I checked watching women that could actually wrestle was very entertaining. For example, Lita, Trish, Victoria, Mickie James etc... last time I checked they were all pretty hot too.

The women's division has been a joke for years now. Poor Amy Dumas didn't have a chance at adequate competition in her days.

So did you miss the whole Lita-Trish feud or what? Sorry to burst your bubble but the majority of people with half a brain would call Trish adequate competition.

If WWE wanted to they could do great things with the division. Of course this would mean they'd have to trade hot asses for serious athletes

As the division is now, yes I agree they're all "hot asses" only, but as per the examples I gave above, you can be hot and talented at the same time.

Given enough energy, I'd go as far as to say, WWE could create a women's match that could reach undercard status. But they obviously have no intensions of taking the talent they have at their disposal seriously which is illuminated by the farting of Miss. Neidhart or the degrading of Eve.

With the division they have now nobody will get an undercard match, and I really don't understand everybodies problem with what the WWE is doing with Eve. It's been done before, it will be done again, and there are lots of women in this world just like Eve. It's not that big of a stretch. I agree on Natalya, but other than that you're a bit off.

Someone had the nerve to fi their fingers to say how they heard somewhere that the characters are only inflated versions of their true selves. Seriously? Come on!

Gimmick characters like Undertaker, obviously totally different from his true self, but someone like Cena doesn't seem like he changes much. He's also said that himself hence why others say it.

 

[Slash-LN]

WWE should take a page out of TNA's book and bring in some women wrestlers who can work. They had Gail Kim and didn't do shit with her.
For people who are saying women wrestlers aren't a draw they should look at TNA where the womens segments at times are the highest rated segments on the show.
Women in the WWE don't get credit because the bookers don't want them to get credit. They're stuck in the mindset that women don't draw.
No I don't thin any of the divas today could main event but they could bring in some better workers.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I think you're trying to assign credit where very little of it is actually deserved. Women's wrestling is a virtual nonfactor in the minds of most American fans. Women's wrestling has NEVER been a draw. I'm not just talking WWE, I'm talking American pro wrestling in general. It wasn't a draw amongst any of the NWA territories, it wasn't a draw in the AWA, it wasn't a draw in WCW and it's not a draw in WWE.

First and foremost, women in wrestling are used primarily for sex appeal. You can't look at Eve, Natalya, Kelly Kelly, Velvet Sky, Angelina Love, Madison Rayne, Trish Stratus, Mickie James & various others and say that the first thing that pops into your mind is what incredibly skilled athletes they are. Well you can, but you won't have a shred of credibility. They're all hot women running around in skimpy, skin tight and/or barely there attire. That's not to say that some of them can't wrestle because they can, and quite well in fact, but wrestling in America will always be viewed as a man's world.

The Divas have never been overly relevant, not even during the Attitude Era. During the AE and throughout much of the years prior to WWE adopting an official PG format rating, the vast majority of the "relevance" the Divas got were bikini contests, lingerie matches, pillow fight matches and wearing as little clothing as allowed by law in public settings.

As for Eve, I don't see how it's ******ed at all. She's not being portrayed as a ****e, she's being portrayed as a selfish & manipulative bitch that will use anyhow and everyone in order to make her mark in a business that always has been and always will be dominated by men. If this was 1998, then Eve would most likely be portrayed as little more than a legal prostitute.

It wouldn't bother me to see the Divas gone quite frankly. Since they are around, however, they should thank their lucky stars that they have a job that allows them to travel all over the world, make lots of money, have hair & make up done by top professionals and use what God and the plastic surgeon gave them to give the male audience a cheap thrill. For the most part, all they have to do is show up, serve as *********ory fodder and get financially fat.

 

[Davi323]

Maybe the WWE should give the Divas their own internet wrestling program to allow them to get more time in their matches, so that they can improve on their product. Other than Natalya and Beth Phoenix, none of them know how to wrestle. Give them their own show on the internet to work on their skills, to get them to be able to put on a credible wrestling match consistently, and THEN bring them back to Raw and Smackdown. I see complaints that the WWE doesn't give them enough time...but maybe the reason they only get 45 second matches is because by and large, none of them can last longer than that without looking completely amateurish.

before I give a damn about a Diva's match on TV or on a PPV, I have to know that they can actually do it. The WWE could trust Lita and Trish Stratus to be able to put on an entertaining 20 minute match on a PPV, and to a lesser extent, Mickie James could too. I would watch a Lita/Trish match, I knew each could deliver. Alicia Fox and Kelly Kelly? 20 minutes? Are you kidding me? They need to prove they can deliver a good match before the WWE has any thoughts about expanding their role on TV and PPVs.

I have no problems with women's wrestling, IF they can give me a good match to watch. I agree they are mostly eye candy, but if they are going to wrestle at all instead of just being valets or something, they need to be able to do it well.

 

[DirtyD79]

The big problem is there's not much of a story you can tell with only one minute to work a wrestling match. Is it because they can't wrestle? If these girls can't work an actual match then make them interviewers or valets. Or better yet hire women who actually can wrestle. Give them actual characters to work with too.

Let's be honest here if John Lauranaitis hired men the same way he hires women(by looking in lingerie catalogs) he would have been fired ages ago. It'd be like the New York Giants hiring Brad Pitt to be the quarterback. Who cares if he can play football or not, the women will buy posters of him. Good luck getting any coach or teammates to go along with that one.

As for the good ol' women can't draw argument spouted off endlessly by apologists for crappy bookers, they can't draw because they're not presented seriously. Naturally fans see them as little more than fap fodder at best piss break matches at worst. And thus the cycle repeats itself. Of course it doesn't help when you have Michael Cole taking naps in the middle of the match and Jerry Lawler acting like a 13 year old who just discovered his dad's stash of pornos in the attic.

 

[Wrestlemania 20-0]

you forget one point to the Divas,at Wrestlemania 25 it's Santino grimmed in Santina Marella who has win,it's an moocked general for the divas Roster and discredit all volunters they make for to be credible.

 

[SacredMesa]

The Divas division has been suffering because of WWEs moto of "looks first ability second" when it comes to womens wrestling. I mean honestly at one point they had Gail Kim, Natalya, Beth Phoenix, Kharma, and Eve all of which can do reasonable, and Gail is the freaking best female wrestler in the business today, but who was their champions that they pushed? Kelly freaking Kelly and the damn Bella Twins. Had them going out and having 2 minute disgrace matches and you are really asking why they are not getting any respect?

The division has been disrespected so much as of late that it's going to take a lot to rebuild it to the level that Trish, Lita, Molly Holly, Mickie James Victoria etc etc had once built it up to. Its like when Trish and Lita left instead of trusting Mickie James and Victoria, who where two of the best they had, to step up they instead decided "nope never gonna be anyone like those two so lets turn it into a beauty contest" and really damaged the division.

Now I think there is potential with what Eve is doing and potential if the rub AJ is getting from Daniels pays off. I also believe if they give Beth and Kharma a fued with reasonable match and promo time those two can do a lot to rebuild the respect the division once had. WWE has the potential to revive the division the question is if they have the desire and the understanding to do it.

 

[XXJJ]

Woman wrestling doesn't draw. They should get rid of the diva division. But Vince would get criticized for doing that so he just gives them short matches.

It was always about sex appeal. Once they went PG and took away the mud wrestling matches, the bikini contest, pillow fights etc it just became boring.

Their fine as dancers like Naomi and Cameron, or what AJ is to Daniel Bryan. But I dont think many fans care about their actual wrestling matches. If they are not involved in a male wrestlers storyline fans generally dont care about any diva. Look at Beth Phoenix she barely gets a reaction from the crowd.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

The divas are underrated by most of the IWC.

the whole Eve thing works because it's relateable. EVERYONE has met at least one hot manipulative bitch who really isn't that hot and kinda has a manface and a butt chin but wears a push up bra and know how to dress/wear makeup and they turn one of your buddies into a pussy whipped fool.

I HATE Kelly Kelly. she's not hot (no tits, no ass, scrawney legs, no shape, hair extensions, too much makeup), she's not athletic, she literally has no qualities I want to see in a human being, much less a wrestler.

the rest of the divas division is pretty damn good really. However, the WWE is a business and it doesn't matter if you aren't over. The divas get the amount of time and exposure you give to people who are as over as they are.

Personally, I consider the WWE divas it's own style. It's not simply women doing the same shit as men only with more flexibility and screaming like it is in Japan. It's wrestling in character and doing moves that are sexy (not ****ty, okay ****ty sometimes). Trish stratus was the epitome of the style I'm talking about. She was athletic and she incorporated her femininity into the match. IMO, Mickie James vs Trish Stratus is the greatest women's feud of all time.