WWE Championship Tournament Discussion

[D-Man]

We all watched and enjoyed it... CM Punk won the WWE title. And now, CM Punk (kayfabe) no longer works for the WWE. Therefore, the WWE title belt is not a part of the company anymore. Now what?

This might make many of you happy because it could mean a new WWE championship belt. The old one is gone and tarnished so this could be the perfect opportunity for a new one.

Also, should the WWE hold their first WWE championship tournament since Deadly Games when the Rock won his first WWE championship? Or technically since Jericho won the first Undisputed WWE championship?

What is to come of the title?

 

[Mustang Sally]

Should we be concerned with the title itself......or the title belt? A lot depends on how long Punk will be away (which presumes he's coming back).

If WWE intends to retire the title due to Punk's "permanent" defection, they might as well design a new belt in anticipation of a new champion emerging from the pack. This skims over the Punk era; treating it as something that's been and gone..... and that doesn't sound too pleasing, does it?

Of course, they could just "hold" the title for Punk if they know he's returning sometime in the next few months. On the one hand, this would deprive WWE of PPV championship wins and defenses.....on the other hand, it makes it truly seem as if C.M. Punk has the entire wrestling world in his hands.

If they intend to institute a new title, I sort of like going way back to the roots of the company, calling it the "World Wide Wrestling Federation Championship."

Any takers?

 

[rAjaXXo1911]

Here is an idea. I remember a few months ago there was a lot of buzz about combining the titles. So now if wwe decide to dissolve the title. They can combine lets say the us and ic championship to make a new big brand championship for raw, or they can just have one main title, the whc championship and have it competed for on both brands. If punk however does comeback ,a design change may come along. It could be like the time when rvd turned the wwe championship into ecw one , something like that would catch m interest. Lets see what happens

 

[The Rich]

Well, If Punk has resigned, i see no reason why they won't keep him as champion.

If he hasn't resigned, I'm sure some angle will take place tonight where he will be stripped or lose the title, I hope he is given a good send off tonight if that is the case, Great PPV by WWE last night.

 

[T-N-Z]

I am sure that CM Punk will stay as the WWE Champion, and he will come back this or next week on Raw with new WWE Championship belt, and so we will never see WWE (Spinner) Championship ever again. He mentioned on Raw that current belt is ugly, so I am sure about this.

 

[Midnite Express 2009]

I think this creates so many avenues by which the company can go, most of which will not be down a dark road. Alberto Del Rio comes to mind first. Since rightfully he is the #1 contender for the title, they could do a tournament to crown a new champion, with Alberto getting a first round bye. Also, he has his insurance policy, that being the briefcase from MITB. Another idea is to say that Punk isn't the WWE champion since he took the belt. This would mean that his title reign is null and void (ala Chris Benoit when he won the WCW World Heavyweight Championship beating Sid, only to leave the company to go to the WWF, this meant that his victory wasn't counted and it goes down as if he never won, even though he did, the only thing with that is that that situation was real life, whereas with Punk, you honestly just don't know). If they state that his victory was null and void, then they could (again) hold a tournament to crown a new champion or they could have the former champion, John Cena vs. the #1, Alberto Del Rio at Summerslam for a new champion and a new belt. I don't too much dig this idea personally, as it once again puts Cena in another main event, something I'm sure people are tired of. Also, with the stipulation that Cena would be fired, I don't see that happening. Cena's hurt and needs time off. This killed 2 birds with one stone. Get the belt off him without making him look super weak and then get him his rest.

So finally, all I can say is my hands are in the air. I can't call heads or tails of this and I like it. I hate the predictability of the company and I am very much interested in seeing what happens on Raw tonight. Will Vince come out and publicly "fire" Cena, since he didn't do it at the PPV? Will a new title be created? I'm sure he'll address the CM Punk issue and what will become of the title as we know it. I love what's going on. How they merged real life with TV and made a wonderful marriage. Damn this is great!

 

[TheKingHustla]

Well, it's on the shelf right now.... literally. The shelf in Cm Punk's fridge. http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/cm-punk-provides-visual-of-wwe-belt-where-its-at-132961
Which gives me that surprising idea that maybe thats how they can spin the Cena fired angle. Saying that CM Punk never actually walk out of Chicago WITH the gold, because it's still in Chicago, in his fridge. (Just a silly thought)

But realistically, it can go three ways story wise, they can go the obvious way and have a cash in with Del Rio and try to get it back, or they can have some kind of stipulation where if the WWE Champ doesn't defend his title on a WWE event he can be stripped of it, and do it that way and force him to a rematch with Cena or forfeit the gold, or they could let him "take it" and do a remodel of the gold, give it to someone else, and ultimatly have a "unification" type of storyline.

We'll just have to wait and see tonight.

 

[Bossblood]

Punk would have never been allowed to win the championship if he did not re-sign. What happened last night is due to the fact he did re-sign.

Punk will be at Raw tonight, next week, the week after and so on. He definitely re-signed.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Yeah It would be cool if they make another Title I hope it turns out better than the other belts they made like the Divas and Tag team Titles. But other possibilities are
they're just going to bring it back when CM Punk comes back (if he comes back) or do an angle tonight since I think CM Punk is advertised and somehow get the belt back

 

[Cebeards]

I thought the same thing, that him winning must be a solidification of him re-signing, but maybe not.

Maybe this is a big picture kind of thing, maybe Vince has decided to get the hell rid of that cartoon belt. Wouldn't that be neat, something new.

I can realistically see a new title, The New Head Title on Raw. Realistically I would like to see a tournament or battle royal, let whoever the hell you want, then Del Rio cashes in, so you can make someone (whoever) be a one time champ, then have Del Rio take it immediatly. Infact you can even have Cena in the match/tournie with his only chance of keeping his job is winning, he wins, then Del Taco takes it. Basically, what I'm getting at is, with Punk having the title, it doesn't mean he has to stay.

Options for title
-Punk Stays and plays
-30 day, no defense strip clause
-new title
-no title, just one world for both brands

Options for Cena
-actually fired...most unlikely
-time off to heal, i hear he has an F'd up disc
-moved to smackdown
-some stupid stipulation where he has to do something to keep his job
-Fired by Vince, rehired by someone else

 

[MattTheMacineDay]

I really hope they don't combined the US with IC, there are to few titles now anyway. Im more use to the idea of the World Heayweight becoming the title of both shows. But having only one title every one wants kinda bites for riviaries. I mean the WHC versus number contender from RAW, then what about smackdown? I also see them putting US and IC on one show and WHC on the other (stupid idea i Know)

As for Cena, I;ve never been a hige of Mr. Fruity Pebbles, but he has been the Poster boy of Raw after HHH IMO. So i doubt they would fire him, and if they did who would replace Cena? Rey? Morrison? Rio?

 

[willross]

Would it be completely surprising if they crown a new champion and then Punk comes back around WM time to face the "paper champion" to crown an Undisputed WWE Champion?

I can't really see them running with one champion just because Christian is someone I cannot see being the ONLY top champion. Of SD, yes considering how the roster is structured, but over the entire company....NO.

 

[Billthehitman]

I haven't read anyone mention this, but could it be that Vince comes out tonight, calls cena to the ring to fire him, then cena comes out and says: "Vince, do u really think I'm that stupid to risk losing the job I love and this title?" he then pulls out the title and proclaims: "the title c m punk took last night is a fake!"

Just tossing it out there...

 

[slushpuppy53]

Clearly, Punk has resigned BUT in storyline I would absolutely love for him to keep the belt away from Raw for awhile. Have JC "fired" so he can get his rest. You could have Punk send in "home videos" of him carting the belt around the indys or NJPW (who I believe Vince has a working relationship with?). You could even go so far as having ADR sell/throw away the briefcase after a few weeks with no champ LOL. The Raw locker room could be seen getting restless with no belt to fight for, and no word from the office what's going on. The possibilities are endless.
This really does seem to have the option of being one of the most creative storylines in YEARS if they have the courage to go through with it. LET Punk play the part of the champ that won't bring the belt back or "sign a new deal". LET Cena have his time off (Vince is NOT going to lose a crippling amount of money in sales in a month or two). And the way Dolph is playing his character lately I personally think it would be awesome for the US Title to be the #1 belt on Raw for a while. Maybe they can even add some prestige to the tag team belts while they're at it (I know ... I was doing great until then!).
Mostly, I just hope they aren't afraid to be truly different for a while. I'm loving the unpredictablility and would love it more if they continued escalating it.

 

[sTyLnK]

I'm going to say he's resigned and will carry the WWE on his shoulders for a while. Cena (who desperately needs some time off) is going to get "fired". He'll be hired back when he's healed up and they will take it from there.


@Billthehitman - Sorry, but having Cena pull out a real belt would be so stupid I would turn off my tv. What a dumb way to follow up one of the best matches/angles seen in years.

 

[TheOzzman45]

Everyone is trying to figure out what is going to happen with the WWE title here and only one person seems to think that it could be a way to go back to an Undisputed Champion. Think about this: on Raw, as of now, the true potential contenders are Cena (probably taking a little time off to be "fired"), Miz, R-Truth (barely), and ADR. Show was injured at the PPV. Mysterio could be thrown in there, but his constant injury issues make it unlikely. On SD, you have Orton, Henry, Sheamus, presumably DB as he is MITB winner now, possibly Cody Rhodes in the near future, but that's unlikely, and possibly Wade Barrett, but he's faded into obscurity.

Recently, WWE lost Edge, HBK, HHH is off regular tv, 'Taker is off regular TV, Cena as I said is probably going to be off for a bit to be "fired" and if I'm not mistaken, recent reports were that he is dealing with several nagging injuries, Punk may or may not be gone, we'll see tonight.

So, you have 3 to 4 contenders on Raw, 5 to 6 on SD. All 3 on Raw are heels. So, WWE began to realize that their main event card is getting shaky with the loss of so many top players and found a way to write one championship out. Now, if this is the case, I will be VERY surprised it was the WWE title and not the World Title, but I think it is feasible.

 

[93178]

There are a few ways I could see this playing out...

Option 1) CM Punk shows up to RAW tonight (not at the start just during a match walk in) in street clothes in the crowd (somewhere high up in the seats and not pretty much ringside) and sit down. Have him holding the new WWE Belt since he said the current one looks ugly. Once they mention him in the crowd or someone trys to go get him, have him just walk out and leave. Have him show up on indy shows with the title (like ROH or NJPW) in legit matches and have WWE go without a title for awhile.

During this time Cena would be "fired" so he can heal up and be ready to go for the rest of the year once he returns. Also during this time RAW would be without a Main Event Belt/Champion so they could use the IC belt as the main focus. This would could give it a little more credibility since Main Eventers would be fighting for it now and it would be in the spotlight. After awhile Punk would come back to WWE and be the outcast Champion everyone hates for leaving them with no title.

Option 2) Tonight start off RAW with Vince coming out to fire Cena publicly. Vince tells Cena hes the reason they lost their belt so hes gone. Cena then says b4 Vince does anything he will regret to remember that as the former champ he still has his 1 rematch he would like to have right now. Vince says the match will happen and if Punk doesn't show up he will forfeit the title. The bell rings and the ref starts the 10 second count. at about 5 Punk comes running out from the stands ith the new belt in his hands. Jumps in the ring and blasts Cena with the belt, gets DQ'd and runs out of the arena again. Champ doesn't lose his belt due to a DQ but Cena's rematch is now used up. Vince then "fires" Cena. The rest would then happen like in Option 1.

Option 3) Have Cena fired and then ADR comes out and says since Punk is gone and Cena is gone, WWE is left without a champ but he has his briefcase. Vince then flat out awards him with the Championship Belt (the current style one) and announces him as the new champion due to Punk leaving WWE. Have ADR run around as the champ for awhile while Punk is going around the indies still calling himself the WWE champ with his new style belt and saying ADR is a fake. After a month or two or how ever long Punk is gone he comes back and says hes the real Champ and is tired of ADR thinking he is and to come fight him right now to see who really is the champ. Punk then beats ADR, is back in the WWE and uses the new belt style so we can get rid of Cenas ugly looking one.

Or, Option 4) Vince gives ADR the title and then the RAW GM on later weeks makes him defend it every week and is going against time. The GM seems to be against the main WWE guys like Miz/ADR and other RAW Main Eventers and we see Tyle Reks getting a push and being favored. Then Punk is revealed as the RAW GM all this time! (ya, that wont happen...)

 

[mareek]

I hope they make the WHC the premiere belt and have the champ be able to go back and forth on both shows and defend his title on both shows as well. It would add more prestige to the belt and you won't really feel the void of the WWE championship.

 

[crippler]

I would be ok if they brought the championship title that Brock Lesnar and JBL had but then again anything would be better than the spinner title. If punk was unsigned Vince would never had him win the wwe title this is a good storyline and a great work by cm punk I just hope WWE does not screw it up.

I hope they make the WHC the premiere belt and have the champ be able to go back and forth on both shows and defend his title on both shows as well. It would add more prestige to the belt and you won't really feel the void of the WWE championship.

Ihope the do none of those 4 options that would screw up the storyline

 

[HBK_EDGE]

Huge night for WWE just as last Monday and last night were. Can they hit it out of the park for the third time in a row?

People say Punk won the title he must be resigned I keep hearing that. I disagree just because he won it doesn't mean he is resigned. You have to think if Cena goes over clean last night what that does for the WWE. If you put Cena over clean everyone is pissed in the arena and everywhere and saying same stuff over and over again. Every ounce of momentum and intrigue that you have built has now been pissed away in a matter of seconds. There is no interest in watching Raw really tonight like there is now. Only way Cena could win is a screwjob finish and I still don't think that works real well here.

Punk can't just come out tonight and be signed sure it would be great to have Punk, but your hottest storyline in years and all the intrigue is pretty much done. In some way they need to do it where Punk isn't on TV to keep interest up in where this could go.

Only scary current thing is you are going into Summerslam next your second biggest show of the year with most likely Punk and Cena off TV for a while. Miz and Del Rio main eventing Summerslam is a huge disappointment even though I like both guys just don't see that headlining Summerslam.

There are not enough top guys to justify having two world titles right now. Plus it is being lost right now because the gimmick money in the bank matches covered it up last night but the mid card has been stale. Not enough guys and a stale midcard would be the perfect time to combine rosters. (I know this is like asking for a playoff in college football), but I think that claim could be justified now more than ever before. You just don't have the horses to run two shows right now imo. I mean that is why Christian and Randy have been fighting for what seems like ever.

Just my take

 

[oldhamandy1]

Its to hard to say what will happen with the belt, as this has got to be the most unpredictable storyline for a while. There are so many routes this could go, I know what I think would be cool but the WWE don't listen to 21 year old English with little to no expandle income. So they shouldn't for that matter, we have to look at it like this; what will make the mither thier parents to pay for? The children are the demographic and the WWE pander to that, storylines like this great as they come around so rarely. It will be a flash in a pan and soon the company will go back to how it was a few months ago.
Not that this is a complaint, the last few weeks have been something to savour for us and the time will come for a storyline just as bold. The reason why we love stuff like this, is because it never happens. So when it does we go crazy, we buy the PPV (unless in your in the UK where it was free), we clog up Twitter and we put WWE back on the map.
In the long term the belt will go to WM with Cena anything inbetween is anybody's guess so I'm not going to speculate on the near future.

 

[WRESTLING_GENIUS]

Would it be completely surprising if they crown a new champion and then Punk comes back around WM time to face the "paper champion" to crown an Undisputed WWE Champion?

I can't really see them running with one champion just because Christian is someone I cannot see being the ONLY top champion. Of SD, yes considering how the roster is structured, but over the entire company....NO.

Technically right now Christian IS the only World Heavyweight champion in the wwe right now as far as the wwe title goes Chicago Made Punk has already announced plans to defend the title on his twitter account(I THINK HE WAS KIDDING THO) nway hopefully Vince fires Cena make a new Belt have a Summerslam WWE Title Tournament with the semis and the finals take place at summerslam then DEL RIO cashes in on the new champ and makes himself the new champ until PUNK returns as the real champ setting up a match NIGHT OF CHAMPIONS to determine the REAL WORLD CHAMPION..

 

[JGlass]

I would like to see McMahon hold off on firing Cena, and instead torture his former go to guy. Have Cena do things like wrestle three on one handicap matches, have him be Michael Cole's personal body guard, and have this go on up until SummerSlam. Put Cena in a match against someone of McMahon's choice, probably Alberto Del Rio, with a stipulation that if Cena wins he doesn't have to do McMahon's shit anymore, but if he loses he has to join Mr. McMahon's Kiss my ass club.

At SummerSlam they'd go back and forth for a while, but eventually Del Rio will lock on the Armbar and McMahon will call for the bell, doing what Cena refused to do against Punk at Money in the Bank, and giving Del Rio the screwjob win.

The next night on Raw the final segment will be Cena's induction to the Kiss My Ass club, but when it's time for the moment of truth, Cena refuses. McMahon tells him that he can't refuse or else he'll be fired, and Cena still refuses. Vince get's ready and yells, "Youuuuu're," but before he can say "fired" Punk's music hits and he comes to the ring with the WWE Championship belt, maybe partially destroyed or something. He then applauds Cena on refusing to do what all of McMahon's "yes men" of the past have done, he can rip on Rock, Triple H, Johnny Ace, and whoever he wants for a while, and then he can say that he wants to give Cena one last chance to win the belt back for the WWE as Punk has realized what a meaningless piece of crap the WWE Championship is. They'll have a match at Night of Champions and Cena will win, only to have Del Rio cash in his MitB contract on him and win the belt.

Honestly, though, this scenario is highly unlikely, but with any luck something similar will happen. Right now, at least from a fan's perspective, whatever happens next is totally up in the air, but I can't see this storyline being anything less than awesome.

 

[pruby999]

Technically right now Christian IS the only World Heavyweight champion in the wwe right now

Every body know CM punk probably already resinged with WWE. As with what you said think about it, do you really think Bryan Danielson (no, not Daniel Bryan) isn't gonna cash the MITB contract to beat Christian Tommorow at the Smackdown tapings? Vince does not like Chirstian as the world champ, adn he only made christian champ so when Bryan Danielson (ok,stop yelling at me, it's not Daniel Bryan) beats christian tommorow, it just makes it more obvious WWE needs Edge.

 

[Shilon006]

amazing ppv. great ending. nice way to have del rio run in and punk just knock him out and leave in order for del rio to still keep the case. i like the idea of just having the i.c. belt on 1 show and the u.s. title on the other and 1 heavyweight title to jump between brands. it would help raise the diginity of both mid card titles while the heavy weight champ is defending on the opposite show. the only problem with this is i dont think they'll let christian be the one to jump between shows to defend. i hope for a new title before anything. secondly, a tourney would be nice. they have always seemed to be a success with either WM 4 or deadly games. either way, wwe is doing a hell of a job and keeping interest high.