WWE Champion(s) You Just Can't Take Seriously

[The_Don]

Did ya kno? Did ya kno? Did ya kno that RVD's little minute legal issues bore no relevence to sports entertainment/pro wrestling? RVD did not screw RVD, VKM did. Vince knew from day one how the ECW guys were and that they might get jammed up every now and then. The suspension was stupid, none of his damn business, and he hurt his own sales trippin like an old guy would.. I'm str8 edge here and even I didn't give a fuck. He also may have weakened the ECW brand by coming down on RVD.

As for henry, are you that much of a moron? You really think the loss of muscle tone is the same as a loss of strength? He's stronger then you and I combined and we are both have his age and probably half his size and twice his speed.. he is one of the few guys who can slam a Big Show or Khali with ease.. he's four decades old but he's still a credible. Champion. He's still got fight left in him. Triple H is 42, depending on the source Batista is either 42 or 45, Goldberg was 38 when he got the WHC, Hogan was 39 by the time he dropped the WWF title he had taken from Slaughter, Sammartino was Henry's age when he reigned for four years during his second WWWF title run, Hogan was 41 when he captured his first WCW title, Steiner was 39, Flair was 39 when he dropped the NWA World title to a 36 year old Steamboat who he took back from at the age of forty. Kane is 44, Undertaker is 45, Ken Shamrock was TNA's NWA champ at 38. RVD captured his TNA title at forty and Kevin Nash and Sting are both born in the late fifties!! You act like. He's the same age as Flair or worse Terry freakin Funk!! As for his late career reign, when he drops the belt he's gone.. so what? That's called the twilight of a career. When he drops it the guy who gets it will be elevated, he will through kayfabe photosynthisis convert his heel steam to face propulsion. Its going to be like when Hollywood Hogan dropped the title clean to Goldberg on that one Nitro.. that's the best thing for everyone. Yeah he spent time as a stooge, a freak, a sicko, a jobber, the most unEuropean looking European champion in history, and yes he only has captured 3 titles over the course of 15 years, but the fact that he has finally overcome those debacles and the fact that all the slams are sticking and the punches are connecting make his rise all the sweeter. His constance referencing of past upsets links this era to the Attitude Era and the Federation Years providing the fans with goose bumps and him with drive. For all we know this could be the culimation of a 15 year story line!!

And speaking of moron...WWE buries talent when they fail the policy, not me! I obviously dont care if he was smoking pot or w/e! He still was a great ring performer! It's WWE politics that brought him down!

And when did I say that Henry wasnt strong? I said he doesnt LOOK strong anymore! Read the other post here I made explaining that cause I'm not gonna go over it again...

Did you saw the older guys you compared Henry with? Henry is NOTHING at the side of those wrestlers you mentioned! Dont compare like that, please...

 

[One to Remember]

Yes I did saw those wrestlers with my two eye and heard match with my two ear.. 'k Ricky? My point was he wasn't the oldest cat to wear gold, a lot of guys have had it between 38 and 42 and a lot of the greats have had it at forty or forty one. And like I said he has lost definition but you know someone his size is pretty stout so idk wtf ur point even was. He can't not look strong.. look dengis don the reason why I brought up ur RVD remark is because it sound like you were preaching and blaming RVD for not making the most of his big break. Now ur blaming wwe policy. Which one is it son?

 

[Mr. Wrestling 513]

People may not agree with me, but Alberto Del Rio is mad boring to me. I think they threw the strap on him wayyy too soon. I agree with JBL couldn't see him as WWE Champion, however at least he had personality and drew heat. Del Rio couldn't draw heat from an oven. On top of that he's too repetitive! Happy Punk called him out because he took the words outta my mouth this past RAW. He has a lot of potiencial no doubt, but can't take him seriously until he becomes more well rounded character wise.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but with a caveat. This guy WILL BE great, one day, but not now. He seems more like a puppet of the regime (ala the Coporate Champion from back in the day) that is in place at the moment. He has very little, to no mike skills, and his character makes me more indifferent than angry when I see him. When he speaks...90% of the time, I am fast forwarding. His too-quick ascension to the top of the mountain inspires more than anything for me.

The champion I never bought was Rey Mysterio. It almost seemed like he got the belt by default, due to his number of years of service, as opposed to merit. Great performer, good character, just not WC material. Guys like him make me really wish WWE would reinstitute a cruiserweight belt.

 

[Larry]

I don't want to belittle the folks who have posted, but this just sounds like a bunch of people repeating each other because they have nothing better to say, and present little if anything of value to their arguments. Not trying to be a dick but for Christ sake, how many people in here have virtually the same list? It's all Jack Swagger, Jeff Hardy, Alberto Del Rio, The Miz, Christian, Sheamus, Rey Mysterio, and Khali. If half the crap that's been said about every one of these people were true, they wouldn't be as successful as they have been which I think shows that most people don't have a fucks clue what their talking about. Sure I can agree that Rey and Khali weren't to be taken seriously, but leading up to or at the times of the other peoples reigns, the majority of the IWC was on their poles like strippers in the club shakin' it for dollars. Is it too much to ask for an original thought here ??? Well, I've got a couple to make you're heads spin and they probably won't be popular but here we go.....

Eddie Guerrero and Chris Benoit. Yep, that's right. Never liked either of them or took either man seriously as champion or at any other point. Sure, they were good wrestlers, but there are tons of good wrestlers. These guys sucked IMO. I hated Chris Benoit so much I can still taste it and when he won at WM 20 I about puked up my guts. That guy should never have been champion. He never had the actual fan support to substantiate it and was never a draw, and he lacked too many intangibles to validate putting him there. I thought he was undersized, disproportioned, and looked like a roided out dwarf with small mans' complex all of which meant he certainly did have the look either. I couldn't care less about his wrestling ability, he had the charisma of a puked on pile of shit and cat vomit covered in maggots and buffalo nuts, and was the type of guy you could tell just thought that he was such a legit bad ass muthrfker in real life.

There are tons of horror stories of him pulling his tough guy bullshit on rookies and trainees because they were the only ones he could really boss around. Anyone else would have stuffed his little ass in a trash can and sent him off to nowhere. The only reason he was made champion in my estimation was because the WWE wanted to see if they could make something out of nothing, because like I said, no one gave a fuck about Chris Benoit until they started pushing the shit out of him and building this whole big story line about him chasing his dream with EG and all that horseshit. The WWE wanted to make some new main event talent, so they stopped and looked around and said "Oh hey, here's these two with passable wrestling skills, we can push them and the people will buy it as long as we do it a certain way" and that's exactly what they did.

Guerrero wasn't much better in my estimation. First of all, I couldn't stand the walking, talking, and behaving stereotype that he played. I mean fuck, do you have any self respect? You're seriously willing to trade your dignity for your success??? Or are you that big of a sell out that you even sell out yourself and your heritage? I think that answers itself. This guy just like Benoit had no real charisma, where was it all those years before the WWE shoved a rocket up his ass to make some new main event talent???? Non-existant. Him beating Kurt Angle at WM20 in the shitty way he did as well just made him an even bigger joke to me. All that showed was that without cheating he couldn't beat Angle, and he was supposed to be the face in that feud so you can't really chalk it up to "Heel Tactics" either. The WWE was smart enough to know that they couldn't legitimately put him over Angle and no one would really buy it if they tried, so they just pulled a fast one and played off the stereotype even more. Neither he or Benoit were ever actual Championship material, I don't care how good they were in the ring, and their skills are grossly over rated anyways. I don't mean to speak foully of the dead since both men have passed, but these are the two that I look at as greasy spots on the lineage of the respective titles they held and never could take seriously. It was a joke, a slap in the face, and a farce that either of these guys were ever put in that place.

 

[Arcade]

I don't see why people can't take Miz and Mysterio as champions. Both have proven that they are main event status. Late last year, earlier this year, and somewhat now, WWE has tried their hardest to push the Miz, but people still can't take him seriously. I don't see what's wrong with Mysterio being one either since he's a pretty popular face.

One guy I can't take as champ seriously. The Great Khali. One of the worst wrestlers I have ever seen.

 

[irishwarrior]

Alberto Del Rio- He's got his ass kicked by Punk a lot recently
Santino Marella- This guy was a joke as the I-C champ
Hornswoggle- It was ridiculous to have him hold the Cruiserweight belt. Even worse is that he's the last champ.
Mark Henry- I really can't take this guy seriously. He spent the last fifteen years jobbing and now we're supposed to take him seriously? This guy has been Sexual Chocolate, was the father of Mae Young's 'child' and who could forget Markswoggle?
Jack Swagger- Like a previous poster said he's got the look and ability but he lost the belt after like three weeks. There was no point of making him Mr.Money In The Bank

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

So wait, you guys don't think Miz was credible but you don't mention Christian?

If i could fight either one of them legitimately, I'd pick Christian. The "I'm 40 but I cut my hair like a 25 year old....in 2003" look just SCREAMS "I'M A PUSSY". Miz seems to have a mean streak and looks fairly fit. Whatever though.

Personally, Vince McMahon I can't take. It was in 1999 though, so the logic was stretched to '100 year old women birth hands when impregnated by really strong black guys" so I guess it's reasonable.

 

[RavenChaos21]

I would dhave to say that the least credible champion in my eyes is The Miz. Nothing that he does has impressed me thus far. Yes, he is creidble on the mic, with the use of a the stainless steel grating his finsher does look a little intimidating, but he is just not someone who screams, "I should be the WWE Champion." I think it is his look. He looks too much like an overgrown frat boy.

 

[stylin'andprofilin']

Rey Mysterio. Maybe one title run, but with the underdog status that he has, that should be it.

Christian. He's just terrible. Can't wrestle, no mic skills. Boring.

The Miz. I appreciate that he learned the business the right way, working his way up instead of just using his reality tv credentials. He'd make a great mid card champ, but not a World Champ.

Edge. See Christian.

Wait a second. Christian can't wrestle? He had a phenomenal feud with Randy Orton. Christian seemed to put the spots in these matches that Randy would never do. Randy Orton in my opinion did not live up to his potential for any of his title reigns. The only one he lived up to was his IC reign when he was with evolution. At least he had some ability and character. Now i don't think I've heard him speak on the microphone in months. He bores me. His moves are stale, the set up for the rko looks dumb. Randy Orton, the worst WWE/WHC of all time.

 

[ECW Sandman]

I have to go with HHH and the only reason I am going with him is because he's Vince's Son -In-Law I feel if he was not married to Stephine he would have never been a 12 or 13 times Champion maybe 1 time or three times WWF/E Champion. and my second one is John Cena yes he may be a hard worker but just like HHH he should have only been a 1- 3 time champion not 10 X.

 

[Jaystrong322]

I would have to say Miz but only because of his character. He is not a believable heel to me but I think he could, in time make a great world champion as a babyface. The guy has charisma and can cut a good promo when he doesn't come across too kiddish.
I would also have to say Jack Swagger...too much to explain there.

To respond to some of the other comments...

Mark Henry has miles of experience compared to the average WWE wrestler today and IMO has done phenomenal work as a believable heel because he was booked properly and had clean wins over some of the top guys in the company. If his character was such, he should have been champion at some point post Attitude-era.

Christian is one of the best performers in the company. He is a guy that has been around for years, has had several title reigns, and can cut a decent promo. The only complaint I have is I feel he has always had something missing, maybe a defining promo or moment to put him over as a huge star but regardless I think he was a good World champ.

 

[Jeff Hardy Rulez]

How can some of you guys say Jeff Hardy!

The guy put his ass on the line time and again for the sport he loves

Yes he has fucked up on more than one occasion, but he's his own man and at least he has some originality, unlike some wannabe wrestlers these days.

Alberto Del Rio is my worst, he tries too hard on the mic to get people to hate him and to be honest a lot of people rip into Cena for not having a big move-set but Del Rio has very little to offer either

 

[DCubedxDDD]

Rey Mysterio: As much as I loved watching him in WCW stealing the show everytime he went out there, I never bought him as a main eventer. Then when he went to WWE I knew eventually they would put one of the Main Event titles on him. I cant see how he could be a legit contender for the World HEAVYWEIGHT Championship when he doesnt crack 200 lbs. Dont get me wrong, I love his matches, just never saw him as a Main Eventer due to his lack of size and mic skills.

 

[WhatAboutRaven]

How can some of you guys say Jeff Hardy!

The guy put his ass on the line time and again for the sport he loves

Yes he has fucked up on more than one occasion, but he's his own man and at least he has some originality, unlike some wannabe wrestlers these days.

Alberto Del Rio is my worst, he tries too hard on the mic to get people to hate him and to be honest a lot of people rip into Cena for not having a big move-set but Del Rio has very little to offer either

He puts his ass on the line and puts something up his nose... Hey, I'm not sayin'... I'm just sayin'. [/shot]

Okay, I'm sorry. I know I'm going to be of the vast minority to admit this, but I actually like Del Rio as champion. Hand to God, no idea why, but I'm drawn to the guy. But the worst world champion of recent history (way too tired and lazy to think of all the world champions I can remember) while I'm realllyyy tempted to say Mysterio, I have to throw a vote for Jack Swagger just because he couldn't draw respectable heat to save...well, his title run and main event status

X-Pac heat does not make a world champion. Proof, Swagger was kicked back to mid-card status where he belongs.

 

[AUSSIE_pride92]

Okay I just want to know whether people stop bitching? I understand this is a forum and people come here to discuss this kind of stuff but some of you guys are just bring detrimental towards these guys and seriously I'm not the biggest Cena fan but like it or not he is where he is and how can you say he can't be taken seriously as champion? He has beaten the best of the best, had some of the best feuds and some of the best matches and some of the most historical moments in the last ten years yet he can't be taken seriously as champ? Come on guys that's just stupidity and clearly just blind hatred and jealousy towards the man and also the miz? Really what the hell else do you guys want? He started at the bottom and has worked as hard as anybody in history to get to where he is? But you wont take him seriously? WHAT MORE do you people possibly want ? Your never happy and always have something to whine about, seriously? What do you guys expect is going to happen in the next ten years? Taker will be gone, Kane will be gone, Henry will be gone, Christian will be gone, edge is already gone, Jericho won't be coming back for any lengthy time, Cena and Orton will either be gone or very close to be gone, Punk will also be close to gone, what do you guys expect and want. You think this current era is bad. Stars don't magically appear they get built up like everyone else and the miz and Rhodes and dibiase etc are the future and give them a chance they may not be taken seriously right now but they have to be built up now because in ten or so years they WILL be the cena's and the orton's and the jericho's etc of today so plain and simple, deal with it or would you rather the wrestling business just end once the current crop of stars are finished in the business?

 

[keehlnate]

The #1 of my list is probably Jack Swagger. Although he got great ring skills, I see him as a joke. This guy can't be taken seriously. Maybe because he got no talent in the mic, or perhaps because he adapted the ankle lock which is too inferior on how Kurt Angle applied it, or maybe because he likes sticking his ass on guys like Michael Cole and Vickie Guerrero.

As for The Miz? I got no problems with him, although I will admit that prior to wrestlemania I see him as a joke contender for Cena. But he proved that he can cut promos and even compete on the mic with Cena. He is now a legit main-eventer and definitely one of the top heels today. It's just that their match at WM 27 is so-so.

 

[TheMainMan32]

Jack Swagger- he had absolutely no business being champ. None whatsoever.

Alberto Del Rio- too soon and terribly booked.

One person that I didnt take seriously the first few times, but was absolutely wrong about was Edge. The first few times he won it, I felt like he wasn't WHC material at all. He shattered that perception over time.

 

[Best in the World 79]

1. The Miz. I'm half and half on the guy tho. Title was put on him too soon, imo. Sometimes he reminds me of a bob backlund/jericho/nwa stable type guy. Odd combo i know, but other times i just wanna punch him in the face. he got booked good so he's credible to me

2. Rey Mysterio. He's like 4'7''. And got thrown face first into a trailer truck by kevin nash. Big show strapped him to a stretcher and beat him against the ringpost Just not buying his underdog shit. No way dude is fucking beating randy orton and kurt angle. fuck him

3. JBL. The redneck from apa? No. Not a bit. He was from texas but lived in new york so he's a new yorker and he's rich cause he writes books. he sucked and he had boobs. get him off my tv with that 8 month title reign and shit. so much many credible talent to give a fucking 8 month reign to. stupid

4. Jeff Hardy. I understand why tho, the guy was on fire around that time. just can't trust the guy with his lifestyle and not every match can be a "let's see how i can get another script" match. dude WAS fun to watch. not anymore

5. Jeff Jarrett. He fucking sucked no matter where he was champ. complete garbage.

6. Batista. Only enjoyed a few things he did. Mostly heel promo work. He sucked so much ass in the ring. And talked like he couldn't think at the same time. clothesline. spinebuster. shake rope. batista bomb. his greatest matches were carried by taker. of course hhh was the one to put him over

7. Alberto Del Rio. when he comes on, i listen to his announcer speak, then i immediately dab a little paint on the wall beside me and turn to that while he cuts promos as the paint and wall gives me more entertainment then del rio

8. Big show. nothing against him, just simply how he was booked to look like a soaking twat. he got beat by floyd mayweather. i know its scripted. i know mayweather wouldn't have done it if he'd lost. bust seriously? he was off ppv for like 5 months then heyman got in his ass and he took the title at msg survivor series. that was cool. then what. back to sucking ass. could've been as great as andre. but no

9. rob van dam. i love the guy. always have. but sadly, i just couldn't buy him as a champion. maybe the booking? or the random shit he was involved in. came in getting better pops than a lot of wwe guys and faces during the invasion. fuck wwe on that one

10. cm punk's first 3 title reigns. just couldn't. i never saw great great build for either of his mitb wins. nor did they go anywhere with his reigns. main evented two matches with taker, one at hell in a cell, then loses to rey mysterio at wrestlemaina months later... loses to orton this year? why? cause orton just fucking has to win all the time? if punk would've won you could've built his greatness over the summer to something huge. he would've been on a roll. beat orton at mania? cena at mitb for title? cena at ss for undisputed title? make shit interesting? please change the fucking belt. THANK YOU VINCE FOR REMEMBERING CM PUNK'S NAME GETTING CHANTED WHILE MR WRESTLEMANIA AND MR OVERRATED TRY TO CUT THEIR DX PROMO.

#wwe only listens to fans when it's either too late or almost too late

 

[Borgata]

Guys who won the WHC/WWE championship but just not believable:

1. Jeff Hardy - Train wreck waiting to happen and did, could not trust him with the belt to represent the company. Solid mid-carder, never main event material.

2. Ric Flair (title reign 9-16), was old, washed up, moved like a crippled zombie,

3. Goldberg. Was monster over thanks to the hype machine, but reckless in the ring, injured guys, bad worker.

4. Miz. Improving, but not their yet, victim of transitional champion.

5. Del Rio. Boring, bland, tries to be a mexican JBL and fails badly.

6. Matt Hardy. Really.....nuff said.

7. jack Swagger. Bad title reign, used improperly, could be built to be the next Kurt Angle, but creative botched it. Needs to work on the mic.

8. Great Kali. WTF! Really....again transitional problems by creative.

9. Rey Mysterio. I like the guy, but not WHC material, got buried for a month straight after winning. Still remember him as the human dart on the side of the trailer from Nash.

10. David Arquette. He mad the Miz look like Bastista.

 

[TheRealDeal]

The Miz: just couldn't buy him, I don't hate him, but I didn't see him as WWE Champion quality just yet.

Yokozuna: I don't even remember him as being the Royal Rumble winner, his title reign wasn't really memorable and he was just blaahh

 

[CenaSux4Life78]

Hands down ADR! The man is just a total yawn fest. The only time he shows ANY form of energy is the moment he gets out of whatever car he is arriving in.

Chavo, when he was ECW champion. Yes I was happy for him, because he deserved to be recognized as not just being Eddies nephew. But it was pretty much the same Chavo.

Jack Swagger. It was just way to soon for him. He has tremendous potential, there is no doubt about that. But his time as champ was not very impressive.

 

[C.J.]

The Miz is one of those guys who is perfect as a midcarder, but as a main event talent...something just isn't right.
Dude does look like a kid playing a wrestler. Can't take him seriously AT ALL.

 

[JaneyD]

Hmmm I love Rey Mysterio, but when he won the World Heavyweight Championship way back when, I mean come on HEAVYWEIGHT. WWE title sure why not... doesn't have the Heavyweight bracket on it.

Plus I don't know if this is a valid reason but his ties with Eddie, and if it wasn't for that sad incident, I don't believe Rey would have gotten the belt.

Oh wasn't there also a man who won the women's championship belt before ? Hahaha