Wrestling is fake...and your point is?

[Unrated Superstar]

God, I am so tired of non-wrestling fans hearing that I'm a wrestling fan and saying "You know it's all fake..." or even worse, when non-wrestling fans are in the room while I'm watching it and say "This is so fake! Now UFC, that's real!"

First of all, as it says under my display name, wrestling is not what I would call fake, it's staged. Movies are fake. In wrestling, people get hurt on a regular basis, and are always left pretty stiff. But that's not even my point.

Anyone who responds to pro wrestling the way I've mentioned is absolutely oblivious to what it's all about. Yeah, it's about fighting, but it's also about entertaining people, that's why we have storylines, it's why they put it on TV.

I personally happen to think UFC is boring, and if I had to express why I think it's boring in two words it would be: "It's real."

Most of us have seen a fight in real life, and the only reason we get excited about it is because of the drama of it...because face it, a fight between two guys in real life is about the same as diva matches (at least the ones with untalented divas). Just a lot of tackling and rolling around over each other.

Wrestling would be so boring if it were real. Just like movies and TV shows that are scripted would be boring if they were real. And you don't judge sitcoms or dramas because they're not real, you just sit back and enjoy the entertainment, so why judge wrestling for being scripted? So if wrestling's not your cup of tea, that's fine, but don't judge it just because it's a scripted sport that takes place in the real world. Ya know?

Am I the only one who feels this way? Has anyone else experienced people reacting to wrestling this way? I can't be the only one.

 

[ChaseDavis]

Preaching to the choir my man. I know what you mean and I agree. I think that the "it's fake" line is used to commonly is because for the longest time there was question about it, now its out in the open so thats all anyone knows about it

Wrestling is not for everyone and often times its not for me but when its at its best its something everyone can enjoy if they take the time to watch and not judge

Wrestling has a stigma, like that of porn. People watch it but they don't quite want to admit it because they are worried what those around them might think.

 

[TheRealLionheart089]

You are NOT the only person to feel that way. I FUCKIN HATE IT when people say "wrestling is fake." If someone asks me what my favorite tv show is, I'll them Monday Night RAW, and do you know what I hear? "You know thats fake right?" I fuckin hate it. Here's a guy tellin me about how "fake" WWE is, but he cant even name one current champion, and still thinks that Stone Cold, and The Rock still wrestle....come on now.
Professional wrestling is staged, an act, it's like a movie that aires live every week in front of 1000's of people, million's worldwide, and shows new episodes EVERY SINGLE WEEK. But no one seems to understand that, except wrestling fans.

 

[Unrated Superstar]

Preaching to the choir my man. I know what you mean and I agree. I think that the "it's fake" line is used to commonly is because for the longest time there was question about it, now its out in the open so thats all anyone knows about it

Thanks, and that brings me to another good point. Wrestling isn't SUPPOSED to be real, so when people say wrestling is fake like I don't know that already, it's a real insult to my intelligience the way I see it. I don't like it because I think it's real, I like it because it's fun and entertaining. Family Guy isn't real either, but man, if I could make sweet sweet television love to a show, I definitely would with Family Guy.

Yeah, I said it.

 

[mr_shwiggy]

I was at my girlfriend's parent's house one tuesday and i mentioned that i was missing ECW (gotta love CM Punk) and my girlfriend's mom responded with 'Ya know, thats all fake? They write it in advance and plan who wins." We were watching a TiVo'd episode of Heroes at the time so i leaned over and whispered to her "psst! Those people on the screen dont really have super powers, they're just actors, and they're playing parts in a scripted drama, just in case you didn't know" needless to say it shut her up

 

[RatedR_HBK11]

I was at my girlfriend's parent's house one tuesday and i mentioned that i was missing ECW (gotta love CM Punk) and my girlfriend's mom responded with 'Ya know, thats all fake? They write it in advance and plan who wins." We were watching a TiVo'd episode of Heroes at the time so i leaned over and whispered to her "psst! Those people on the screen dont really have super powers, they're just actors, and they're playing parts in a scripted drama, just in case you didn't know" needless to say it shut her up

Exactly, and it should have. Once when I was like 15, I had friends over and they were jumping on my trampoline like, "Wrestling's fake, why do you watch it?" While questioning my love for wrestling, I got one of them to take a moonsault from me while we were on the trampoline, since ya know..."Wrestling's fake, so no one gets hurt." as one of them put it. I broke one of his ribs.

 

[ACTAFOOL]

I was at my girlfriend's parent's house one tuesday and i mentioned that i was missing ECW (gotta love CM Punk) and my girlfriend's mom responded with 'Ya know, thats all fake? They write it in advance and plan who wins." We were watching a TiVo'd episode of Heroes at the time so i leaned over and whispered to her "psst! Those people on the screen dont really have super powers, they're just actors, and they're playing parts in a scripted drama, just in case you didn't know" needless to say it shut her up

lol good one, though i watch heroes too >.< hahaha

anyway, i think EVERY wrestling fan has heard the line ''u know its fake right?''... and im just thinking... ''duh??'' i mean the only time i thought it was real was when i was 5-9 i think, ANY1 who thought wrestling was real after they were 10 has never really seen a fight im guessing...
its so obvious its fake, and WWE doesnt care, they have made it clear that wrestling is to entertain ppl, its not about actual fighting, i mean how can any non wrestling fan tell me he doesnt love the swanton bomb? its just amazing to see a human doin that, who doesnt enjoy it?

ppl who dont like wrestling are either loyal to boxing/MMA, or dont watch it enough to know whats fun about it, sure its fake but once u get to know the wrestlers and storylines it gets fun to watch, and even thought its fake many times these guys take some sick bumps that must hurt like hell, but just because its fake ppl think ''that doesnt hurt as much as it looks like dude, its all fake''... ya i wanna see some1 get speared through a flaming table and say ''it doesnt hurt'', ive actually shown some of the sickest things in wrestling to ppl, but just cuz every1 knows its fake they think its impossible for a wrestler to feel pain...they 4get that wrestlers many times take real bumps and actually injur themselves...

but o well, each person is entertained by different things, for example many wrestling fans hate boxing/MMA while i love it and follow it just as much as wrestling, i guess i enjoy any sport with fighting envolved, though i dont actually like to fight.. i think its stupid lol...

 

[hurrican5547]

I personally think the "fakeness" of wrestling is what gives it its watchability With scripted matches, one can build up a superstar, keep him in the spot light, and garner lots of attention. Take John Cena, i know alot hate him, but everyone knows him cause he always wins. But if you look at the UFC, superstars are hard to come by, because know matter how hard they work, and how much they are built up, one knockout is all that is needed to erase their anme forever.. i mean, look at the hype wtih Mirko, and look how that ended up

 

[Mad Metal]

Completely agree. Everyone knows if everything including sports and reality shows were completely unscripted that they would be boring. Hogan Knows Best is the perfect example including the entire Hulk/Linda divorce angle to catch the viewer's interest. No one is interested in reality anymore.

I really feel that pro wrestling is the least respected form of sport or entertainment. For a non-wrestling fan to notify those who favors the industry that it's "fake" is ironic. How so? Why should a non-fan that has absolutely no clue as to what's going on or takes no part in the industry including contribution such as purchasing merchandise, watch their TV shows, etc. be able to say what's real and what's not? If anything, it should be the other way around seeing the professional wrestling fans would obviously have a knowledge on the business seeing they actually watch the product and some may tune in to news sites for "inside scoops" on a regular basis.

Professional wrestling can be very very real. Look at the massive attention that the industry received after Chris Benoit's death. It went beyond the assumption and stereotypes of steroid use, but the brutality that Chris Benoit went through for years which those events were very real. I don't think it was fake that Chris Benoit literally put his body on the line every night and it's no secret that the lifestyle of a major league professional wrestler is tough. You have to be tough not only in the biceps, but in the head as well. Hell, I doubt even your typical UFC fighter or NFL star would be tough enough to live the lifestyle of a wrestler and it goes beyond blading, being able to be dropped on your back dozens of times nightly and take shots to the head with a chair.

Throughout the years, I seen Austin break his neck. Bret Hart got a very bad kick to the head. Shawn Michaels took a 4 year hiatus due to a back injury. Matt Hardy is currently sitting out. Joey Mercury required plastic surgery due to a messed up face he got from a shot to the face from a ladder. Hell, piratically every single main eventer was injured in 2007 such as Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, The Undertaker, Edge, Ken Kennedy, John Cena, Bobby Lashley. To make things worse, all of those injuries throughout the years were only very few mentioned. Sure you can say that these were all done due to "accidents" but it goes way beyond an accident. The brutality and injuries ARE apart of professional wrestling due to the fact it has a huge impact on everything as well as are very common which usually an injury occurs once or twice per week whether it's a undercarder, midcarder or main eventer.

To hear someone put over someone that runs down a field with massive protection once per week and looks completely down on an athlete such as a professional wrestler with the closest thing to protection would be an elbow pad and are literally forced to withstand pain as well as "moves" just as powerful or even stronger than some fancy move a football player would inflict makes me want to puke.

As far as wrestling being "fake" and whether it's a sport or entertainment, it's simple; it's sports entertainment. Wrestlers knows what to expect whether it's ROH, TNA, CMLL or WWE. Plans always are in need to be made prior to matches on what is going down and such. The only way you can stay down for a 3 count and not be able to lift your shoulder would be if you're dead or pure knocked out. Majority of the moves, especially lucha libre stunts, requires the opponent to do majority of the work to assure the move succeeds than the wrestler who's "applying" the move. With the excellent athleticism and the expectation/s of withstanding great amount of pain and taking chances on your body when performing makes professional wrestling more of a "sport". Of course all of professional wrestling would have their performers go on the mic and are required to sound as if they took acting school.

 

[god of thunder]

I've gotten the "you know it's fake, right?" line from members of my own family a few times. So now, whenever they're watching a movie or TV show that they are really into, I wait until the right moment when I can see that they are deeply involved in the story and I blurt out "You know this is just a movie, and they're all just actors, right?" I get the deer in the headlights look from them every time. The original poster was correct, UFC is boring. Watching fighters lay on top of each other for 10 minutes with their legs wrapped around each other looking like they're about to start screwing is NOT action. But I take exception to comparing it to Divas matches. Divas matches are great 90% of the time, and provide a much needed change of scenery and pace from the usual and overkilled parade of men's matches. How many Snitskys do you want to see anyway? If you don't like seeing the Divas, seek professional therapy

 

[ACTAFOOL]

I've gotten the "you know it's fake, right?" line from members of my own family a few times. So now, whenever they're watching a movie or TV show that they are really into, I wait until the right moment when I can see that they are deeply involved in the story and I blurt out "You know this is just a movie, and they're all just actors, right?" I get the deer in the headlights look from them every time. The original poster was correct, UFC is boring. Watching fighters lay on top of each other for 10 minutes with their legs wrapped around each other looking like they're about to start screwing is NOT action. But I take exception to comparing it to Divas matches. Divas matches are great 90&#37; of the time, and provide a much needed change of scenery and pace from the usual and overkilled parade of men's matches. How many Snitskys do you want to see anyway? If you don't like seeing the Divas, seek professional therapy

i disagree about UFC, many ppl who arent into MMA dont understand about the fights, whats hard, whats easy, and not every1 is excited to see a jiu jitsu match, wich i can see why but there are many fights in UFC (or other MMA companys) that can entertain any1 who enjoys fights, it really depends on whos fighting, saying UFC is boring IMO is the same thing as saying WWE is fake, ppl dont get the sport, im not offending u or anything, i just disagree with ppl who say UFC or MMA is boring or stupid cuz its 2 men locked in a cage fighting...

 

[Attack]

I, just like everyone else here, hate it when people see me watching wrestling or wearing a wrestling shirt or something, and say, "You know this is fake, right?" What the hell kind of question is that? Do they think I'm going to get a look of shock on my face and say something like, "Oh my god, it is? No way! It can't be fake!" or "I can't believe wrestling is fake! I've waisted my whole life! There's no reason to live anymore!"

Of course wrestling is fake! That's why it's good.

My opinions on MMA, well, I'm not a very big fan of it... at all.
But I'm not going to make fun of it to people I know who like it, because that'd be pretty hypocritical of me. I'm sure MMA fans get just as annoyed with people like me who don't "get" MMA, as I do with people who don't "get" wrestling. So don't make fun of UFC and MMA, because you'd be doing exactly what non-wrestling do to you.

 

[Mad Metal]

While on the subject of MMA, I myself find these so called "real fights" very boring. Like said, it gets unbelievably boring to see someone wrapping their legs around someone with a headlock for 30 minutes long and I'm sure many others feel the same way. It's like the same thing when I'm watching wrestling.... the match gets boring when someone applies the headlock for 5 minutes. I mean for real, who really wants to see that? I have a lot of friends who likes professional wrestling and I have some friends that enjoys MMA but like some may wonder "how the hell can he enjoy these men in tights", I wonder "how the hell can he watch the same move applied for a half an hour. where's the fun out of this crap?".

 

[ACTAFOOL]

While on the subject of MMA, I myself find these so called "real fights" very boring. Like said, it gets unbelievably boring to see someone wrapping their legs around someone with a headlock for 30 minutes long and I'm sure many others feel the same way. It's like the same thing when I'm watching wrestling.... the match gets boring when someone applies the headlock for 5 minutes. I mean for real, who really wants to see that? I have a lot of friends who likes professional wrestling and I have some friends that enjoys MMA but like some may wonder "how the hell can he enjoy these men in tights", I wonder "how the hell can he watch the same move applied for a half an hour. where's the fun out of this crap?".

well like ive said b4 i enjoy both, but on the MMA subject to be fair most of the fights arent actually ''leg locks and rolling on the ground for 30 min'', for starters a fight in MMA is usually only 15 min long, unless its a title match, but i know u dont mean literally 30 min lol, anyway the thing about MMA is that ANYTHING can happen and since its not staged it can be exciting, its a matter of who enjoys and understands different fighting styles

a simple leg lock can make some1 tap out in a matter of seconds, so if its a title match a simple leg lock can be very excitigin cuz at any moment the champ or challenger might tap and bam the match is over, in wrestling we know no1 will ever tapout to a submission move unless its their finisher, thats why its boring

and in MMA u dont see some1 apply the move for the whole round, they TRY to apply it, theres a difference, cuz when they apply it, the match is done no doubt, and nowadays most of the fights are more stand up actually, especially any fight with the previous heavyweight champ randy corture or the current light heavy champ rampage jackson, the fun part in MMA is cuz its not scripted, like mirko cro cop, one of the best fighters of today, EVERY1 who watched his fight against gabriel gonzaga thought it would be a squash, but in the beginning of the match cro cop got knocked out with a sick kick to the head, it looked like it killed him lol

anyway, thats whats exciting about MMA, at the same time there are many exciting things in wrestling that non wrestling fans dont get either... i think every1 should just respect what other ppl enjoy, cuz usually when some1 doesnt enjoy something its because they dont understand it, and when some1 doesnt understand something they dont enjoy it, lol get it =P

but its easier to watch wrestling and see a guy flying 15 feet in the air and get hooked on it from there, then watching a guy tapout in UFC.. i get that...

 

[kenfuu]

I've gotten the its fake thing so many times its hard to count. One day when i was in high school i was watching AJ Styles vs Homicide on veoh.com because my school had youtube blocked. So i'm about half way through the match and this kid comes up to me and is like "dude it's fake why you watch that crap" and i was just like "Reallyy no way i never would have known if you didn't tell me!!" in an overly sarcastic voice...shut him up right there.

 

[SuperXero]

I've gotten that a few times, but surprisingly there's a lot of respect for wrestling around my area. Generally speaking, once I explain the sport a bit people come to understand, but there's still a few people who give me the most outlandish comments like "hey they computer generate those moves!" or "They're just a bunch of gay guys in tights rubbing around on each other!" There's just some people that will never be convinced to give wrestling a shot, but I just wish they'd keep their opinions to themselves.

 

[simplejt1985]

I never have a problem admitting that I still watch wrestling at 22-years-old. I've watched WWE/WCW my whole life and I know everything about the history, especially during my era. People do not understand that wrestling is theater. I'm a theater major at my college and I love theater and wrestling is just that. It's live theater and just like acting on stage, things can go wrong and you have to improv. The wrestling part is like fighting choreography. It's great entertainment and no matter how dull and boring the storylines can be you're still going to root for wrestling to survive its struggles that they usually have. I love wrestling and I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[beetle717]

I, just like everyone else here, hate it when people see me watching wrestling or wearing a wrestling shirt or something, and say, "You know this is fake, right?" What the hell kind of question is that? Do they think I'm going to get a look of shock on my face and say something like, "Oh my god, it is? No way! It can't be fake!" or "I can't believe wrestling is fake! I've waisted my whole life! There's no reason to live anymore!"

Of course wrestling is fake! That's why it's good.

My opinions on MMA, well, I'm not a very big fan of it... at all.
But I'm not going to make fun of it to people I know who like it, because that'd be pretty hypocritical of me. I'm sure MMA fans get just as annoyed with people like me who don't "get" MMA, as I do with people who don't "get" wrestling. So don't make fun of UFC and MMA, because you'd be doing exactly what non-wrestling do to you.

As sad as it is I have used the lines in the first paragraph when getting the it's fake line. Some people (For arguments sake I'll call morons) believed I meant it and thought it was real. The fact is Wrestling is no more fake then Law & Order, CSI, Lost, Heroes, Smallville, or American Dad, and they're all great shows so is there any real difference.

 

[ThatEmoDork]

Well, here's to hoping this is an "acceptable" post.

I call it predetermined. I've had this argument with a friend of mine from work last week and according to him, the multiple chair shots Mike Awesome did to Tanaka at One Night Stand didn't hurt because of how there was no blood drawn. How can people say shit like that doesn't hurt? Or how about Abyss giving Sabu a powerbomb on about 150 thumbtacks on TNA iMPACT? Kurt Angle missing a moonsault on Chris Benoit from the top of a steel cage?

(Most) wrestlers have got major talent. How about Petey Williams delivering the Canadian Destroyer to an opponent while keeping both himself and his opponent safe from physical harm? Or Shelton Benjamin's Money In The Bank Ladder performance?

Professional wrestlers are actors, yes. But what they do inside the ring is enough to take a toll on anybody's body and again it takes talent. Those who refuse to accept that fact are nothing short of idiots.

 

[vega13mv]

I think the reason non wrestling fans call it fake is because its not a sport, and they're right. a sport is a real competition between 2 parties, pro wrestling isnt that way at all. what does annoy me is when people dont acknowledge how skilled these athletes really are. pro wrestlers are the most conditioned athletes next to MMA fighters. football, basketball, baseball or any other 'player' cant even hold a candle to the physical and mental conditioning required to be a pro wrestler. and despite the alleged 'fakeness' of it, the danger of participating in a prowrestling match is very real. just about every top tier athlete in the business has suffered a debilitating injury at least once. as much as i find the critiques of the ignorant masses very annoying, i like liking something that most people dont. im not ashamed to tell people im a wrestling fan, im not ashamed to sport my stone cold t-shirt at the mall, and i can hold my own in an argument with any pro wrestling hater.

 

[maddawg]

I would like some of these people who put down wrestling by saying it's fake to get in the ring with one of the superstars for five minutes. Tell me if it is fake then. I understand it is staged, but it still takes one hell of an athlete to pull it off and some of the shit has got to hurt! Tell me all the bumps and falls that they do don't hurt. It would take a hell of a lot of stanima just to work at the speed that they do. Regardless of what people say, I'm a wrestling fan!

 

[johnnyvictory]

i knew you guys were out there. the peeps who are tired of the put downs. "Dude, that shits so fake." I wish i carried around a copy of the mankind/taker hell in a cell. Ok, I know the results are scripted, but planned out and fake are two way different things. UFC can be so boring, thats real fighting. You cant take it so seriously, I love what these guys and girls do, I find it entertaining, just like some people like to birdwatch, I find that boring as hell but I dont go hanging around the woods waiting to tell someone my two cents when they didn't ask. If you dont like wrestling, get out of the way so the fans can watch what they want. Silence the haters, long-live the body slam.

 

[vega13mv]

just figured id post something for all the MMA haters. now i enjoy wrestling as much as anyone else, but i gotta say, i look forward to watching UFC matches more. now for those of you that hate it because its borring, and cuz they cant stand watching two grapplers go at it on the ground for 5 minutes, you're really not appreciating what you're watching. the only close metaphor that comes mind is ''human chess.'' sure, chess isnt exciting, there's no flash or pizzaz to it, but that doesnt mean it isnt an intellectually stimulating activity. its the same with MMA. you can learn a lot by the subtleties these guys do in the octagon, something as simple as a hip toss, that most wrestling fans would consider basic, i see as a masterful execution of strength, technique, and finesse. and besides all that, any long time UFC fan would agree that when a match really picks up, you witness something that no pro wrestling promotion in the world could ever deliver. these men are modern day gladiators, and anyone with a taste for any type of physical combat would be dumb to miss out on what MMA has to offer.

 

[Unrated Superstar]

I've gotten the "you know it's fake, right?" line from members of my own family a few times. So now, whenever they're watching a movie or TV show that they are really into, I wait until the right moment when I can see that they are deeply involved in the story and I blurt out "You know this is just a movie, and they're all just actors, right?" I get the deer in the headlights look from them every time. The original poster was correct, UFC is boring. Watching fighters lay on top of each other for 10 minutes with their legs wrapped around each other looking like they're about to start screwing is NOT action. But I take exception to comparing it to Divas matches. Divas matches are great 90% of the time, and provide a much needed change of scenery and pace from the usual and overkilled parade of men's matches. How many Snitskys do you want to see anyway? If you don't like seeing the Divas, seek professional therapy

Haha, that UFC comment made me laugh.

As for the diva part, I did not intend to offend you or anyone else who is a general diva fan. That's why I included the "(at least with untalented divas)" part. I agree that there can definitely be some entertaining divas matches, but I singled out untalented divas rather than untalented wrestlers in general, because when men in wrestling aren't talented, they still don't roll around all over each other and such, they just do moves like the F-U, the sit-down powerbomb, and the vice grip. But I'm not mentioning any names.

As for the whole UFC debate, the only reason I remotely picked on UFC was not out of disrespect to anyone, but pointing out why I personally find it boring in relation to the topic at hand. The basis for me finding UFC boring is because it's real, so when people disrespect wrestling because it's not real, I find it ironic, because the realness of UFC is why I DON'T like it. But if UFC is your thing, I'm not gonna say you shouldn't like it. Like I said, I was just stating a personal opinion.

I'm glad to hear so many people can relate, by the way.

 

[Uncle Phatso]

my theroy on pro wresting is this i no its fake allways have allways will but the extiment of seing people try to beat the shit outta each other has allways been cool to me ive allways kinda been dumb about it and when people said o its fake to me the hole lot its al fake and ive just brushed them off but can a nfl player do what wwe wrestlers or tna wrestlers do i would love to see payton manning or a rod do pettie williams sick flip pile driver and pull it off with out breaking ther opponests neck or theres or seing bary bonds doing jeff hardy's swanton bomb wemen have ther lil sissy bitch crying soap opras and men and some wemen have pro wrestiling its like a soap oprea it has story lines and fights... dosent it ?