Wrestlemania XXX: Daniel Bryan VS Triple H

[Jack-Hammer]

Well, it's officially on. After Daniel Bryan and members of the "Yes Movement" in Memphis "occupied" Raw tonight, Bryan goaded Triple H into giving him not only a match at WrestleMania XXX, but Bryan is added to the WWE World Heavyweight Championship match at WrestleMania XXX if he beats Triple H.

Ultimately, Triple H did what was "best for business" and, as a result, the title match at WrestleMania XXX may very well have been saved.

 

[JoeyJoeJoe]

I think everyone saw this coming the past few weeks, and honestly, it's the only match that made any sense at all.

Orton Vs. Batista was just DOA. It's pretty much the same scenario as WrestleMania 22 with Bryan playing the Mysterio role.

 

[Eddie Menuek]

And people didn't think WWE would invest in Daniel Bryan.

Imagine if he defeats Triple H, and then wins that triple threat, on the biggest stage of them all; that would be unprecedented. I think that exceeds Jericho defeating Austin and Rock on the same night. Of course, Bryan winning the title match isn't a given, but it will be an exciting night regardless.

 

[ASKane]

I think its obvious and unfortunate but Bryan will lose a match at Wrestlemania. He is either gonna get hit by HHH's golden shovel or they are gonna use his injuries from the HHH as the excuse for why he loses the title match. Bryan should have only been in 1 match at Mania and it should have been the title match which he earned through winning the Rumble.

 

[The Eighties]

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I'm not a fan of Triple H but I think he'll put Bryan over and I think Bryan will go on and win the title match as well. We all have our opinions on Triple H and Vince but for it to go any other route and frankly spoil Mania gives them too little credit in my view.

Triple H is playing up to the perception a lot of the hardcore fans have of him, and I'm not saying there's no merit to the perception, I think there is, but Triple H is also a guy who will soon run the whole thing, he'll want to show everyone that business will override any ego issues in my view and he'll look to have a hell of a match with Bryan before losing to him.

It'll be interesting to see what type of match it is and where it is positioned on the card. Most of Triple H's matches over the last few years have been brawls, but he may opt to work a regular match here as he'll be working heel. I think they may actually go from this directly into the triple threat in order to keep the momentum flowing and stack the odds further against Bryan.

 

[The Brain]

I'm glad this match is finally official and I figured the title match stipulation would be a part of it. The only problem is the match is now very predictable. I don't have a problem with predictability but if not for the title stipulation I'm sure some people would wonder if Bryan would beat Triple H. I think Bryan would have been a lock either way but now they're practically telling you Bryan will win. There isn't much suspense in this match.

I also have a slight concern that Bryan may be a bit overexposed. I hope he can keep the crowd hot enough for the title match after a match with Triple H. I'd like to see Triple H brutalize Bryan after taking the loss to put him in a real underdog role in the title match. Also HHH should get the upperhand these next couple weeks going into mania. Personally I think Bryan has been a little too smug and whiny in his demands lately which hurts his likeability. Judging by crowd response I'm probably alone in that thought. Still though I think he needs to become more of a victim again than someone that's getting the best of the Authority.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

My prediction on what will happen at WMXXX was almost spot on. Except I would think there would be two WWE Title Matches. Regardless this is the best course of action the WWE could take with Batista's return backfiring and CM Punk walking out.

Good thing is that it actually worked in DB's favor. Provided Daniel Bryan actually beats Triple H and goes over here.

My prediction in this match is that, Triple H initially beats Bryan via a screw job finish. But Hogan demands the match to restart and Bryan wins. Giving him a WWE Title shot later that night.

Great opportunity the WWE has here, they can basically right the mistakes they made at the Rumble by giving the WMXXX spotlight to DB.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I'm not a fan of Triple H but I think he'll put Bryan over and I think Bryan will go on and win the title match as well.

Yes, to part 1 of that; if Daniel doesn't go over, we don't get to see him in the championship match, which would be extremely upsetting to the crowd, so he's going to beat Triple H who, despite some folks believing he won't job, knows there's no benefit to his winning this match. I mean, what for? Trips has no rep to protect since he isn't an active wrestler chasing the title. Nothing is hurt if he loses. But while I don't know if management's original plan for WM30 was to have Daniel fighting for the title, they're smart enough to have rolled with the punches and switched things around so that he gets the shot demanded by the fans.

As to Part 2, I'm not sure Daniel wins the title. If he does, I believe it will be for only a short time since the champion can't be featured as an underdog, which is what Bryan's current popularity is based on. So, maybe he wins the belt and maybe he doesn't, but at least the fans will get what they've been clamoring for.

Triple H, meanwhile, can lose cleanly to Daniel and not feel compelled to continue his war against him.....at least as an active participant.

It should be a good match, anyway.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

I think that over the course of the next month a couple things will happen to this match:

1) No countout, No DQ stipulation will be added. They will do everything they can to make it look like the odds are stacked against DB.

2) They will add the stipulation that if DB loses, he's fired. Look, we all know how that works out when a guy loses and he's "fired" but I think they'll definitely add that stipulation.

I think DB winning the match against Trips and going on to win the title is just too obvious. Also, if he loses to Trips, then WWE risks the fans destroying the main event with chants so that won't happen. Daniel Bryan will find a way to win.

However, I don't think he wins the belt. I think The Authority (most likely Trips or Kane) will prevent DB from winning the belt. Batista won't win, so most likely Orton retains so that DB can win the belt at Extreme Rules in Washington.

This ending is best for WWE as DB will be in the main event so the fans won't ruin it. They'll boo when Orton wins but the show will be going off the air so it doesn't matter.

As much as the IWC wants DB to have his "wrestlemania moment" what's best for business is for him to win the belt in his home state and to overcome the odds in an extreme rules match.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I don't see how Bryan has earnt himself the opportunity to be part of the world title match. Beating Triple H doesn't mean he should be injected into that match.

I was looking forward to the reaction Orton/Batista would recieve, now I won't get that.

WWE should swerve fans by holding Orton/Batista before HHH/Bryan. Oh how we'd all laugh.

 

[The Eighties]

Yes, to part 1 of that; if Daniel doesn't go over, we don't get to see him in the championship match, which would be extremely upsetting to the crowd, so he's going to beat Triple H who, despite some folks believing he won't job, knows there's no benefit to his winning this match. I mean, what for? Trips has no rep to protect since he isn't an active wrestler chasing the title. Nothing is hurt if he loses. But while I don't know if management's original plan for WM30 was to have Daniel fighting for the title, they're smart enough to have rolled with the punches and switched things around so that he gets the shot demanded by the fans.

As to Part 2, I'm not sure Daniel wins the title. If he does, I believe it will be for only a short time since the champion can't be featured as an underdog, which is what Bryan's current popularity is based on. So, maybe he wins the belt and maybe he doesn't, but at least the fans will get what they've been clamoring for.

Triple H, meanwhile, can lose cleanly to Daniel and not feel compelled to continue his war against him.....at least as an active participant.

It should be a good match, anyway.

I think it would be surprising if Vince decided to end Mania on a sour note, it's rarely been the case over the last 29, and if the idea is for this to go on in the middle so they can pull a swerve and end with Taker vs Brock I think they run the risk of the crowds anger bleeding into everything else and ruining it.

Bryan's time as champion is probably a debate for another thread since he's not there yet lol, but I think there are a number of possibilities going forward which is always exciting.

 

[kadroan]

I could see Bryan winning by a screw up from Kane. I don't think they'll let Bryan win clean. A rematch on the RAW after Wrestlemania would be huge.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

If Bryan doesn't go over Triple H, then the live crowd will shit all over the rest of the show. They'll especially shit all over Orton vs. Batista as Bryan being inserted is the only way to save it.

This definitely gives the predictable impression of Bryan going over Triple H: so what? It's not unpredictability that's been driving the Daniel Bryan storyline, it's been fans feverishly wanting to see to see a payoff for Bryan in a big way. Back in '96, I had no doubt that Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels in the Iron Man match at WrestleMania XII would end with HBK winning. Why? Because even my dumb 15 year old ass knew that it was the "boyhood dream" angle of the storyline that was the driving force; fans wanted to see Shawn Michaels achieve the "boyhood dream" of becoming WWF Champion. That's the payoff they wanted, it's the payoff they got and it's considered one of the all time classic moments in WrestleMania history. Fans have been clamoring to see Daniel Bryan have a huge, career defining moment for the past 6 months. It looked like he was gonna have it at SummerSlam, he did pull off a clean win over John Cena and I don't think many people expected it. He was screwed over by Triple H and by The Authority in general for months on end, leading to endless criticism of WWE management. Now, less than a month away, Bryan has an opportunity to have an even bigger moment by beating Triple H AND Orton & Batista in the same night.

IF WWE, as report, intends to push Daniel Bryan as among THE top guys after WrestleMania XXX, I'm not sure they'll be able to do that if Bryan doesn't walk out as champion. There's not going to be another opportunity to have such a huge moment in 2014, so I'm thinking it's now or never. The only POSSIBLE pacification, and it's still far from certain, would be for Bryan to win the title at the post WrestleMania Raw; and that's only if he beats Triple H and is somehow fucked over in the title match. Even then, it could be something of a crapshoot because, as I said, there'll be no bigger stage for Bryan to attain that big moment. If it doesn't happen on April 6th, I don't think it'll be happening at all.

 

[Eddie Menuek]

If Bryan doesn't go over Triple H, then the live crowd will shit all over the rest of the show. They'll especially shit all over Orton vs. Batista as Bryan being inserted is the only way to save it.

This definitely gives the predictable impression of Bryan going over Triple H: so what? It's not unpredictability that's been driving the Daniel Bryan storyline, it's been fans feverishly wanting to see to see a payoff for Bryan in a big way. Back in '96, I had no doubt that Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels in the Iron Man match at WrestleMania XII would end with HBK winning. Why? Because even my dumb 15 year old ass knew that it was the "boyhood dream" angle of the storyline that was the driving force; fans wanted to see Shawn Michaels achieve the "boyhood dream" of becoming WWF Champion. That's the payoff they wanted, it's the payoff they got and it's considered one of the all time classic moments in WrestleMania history. Fans have been clamoring to see Daniel Bryan have a huge, career defining moment for the past 6 months. It looked like he was gonna have it at SummerSlam, he did pull off a clean win over John Cena and I don't think many people expected it. He was screwed over by Triple H and by The Authority in general for months on end, leading to endless criticism of WWE management. Now, less than a month away, Bryan has an opportunity to have an even bigger moment by beating Triple H AND Orton & Batista in the same night.

IF WWE, as report, intends to push Daniel Bryan as among THE top guys after WrestleMania XXX, I'm not sure they'll be able to do that if Bryan doesn't walk out as champion. There's not going to be another opportunity to have such a huge moment in 2014, so I'm thinking it's now or never. The only POSSIBLE pacification, and it's still far from certain, would be for Bryan to win the title at the post WrestleMania Raw; and that's only if he beats Triple H and is somehow fucked over in the title match. Even then, it could be something of a crapshoot because, as I said, there'll be no bigger stage for Bryan to attain that big moment. If it doesn't happen on April 6th, I don't think it'll be happening at all.

This is why I often don't get the complaint about Wrestlemania being predictable. For the most part, it's going to be. It shouldn't prevent anybody from immersing themselves in the spectacle.

I can understand why people would want an unpredictable product throughout the year, but Wrestlemania is the season finale. It's the show to tie up all of the loose ends - and it just so happens that those loose ends are often predictable. There are notable exceptions, such as The Rock beating John Cena at Wrestlemania 28, and Stone Cold going over The Rock at X-Seven, but they're just that - exceptions. Typically Wrestlemania is all about a predictable payoff. It's the nature of the beast.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Undertaker VS Lesnar is the only match that'll survive a brutal onslaught of heckling and boos, if Bryan loses to Triple H. Everything else? Yeah, the crowd will take a massive diarrhea dump (especially Orton VS Batista) on the rest of card with no restraints, and it's not even close.

I'm guessing they'll go with this match early on in the 8:00 window. You give the crowd a chance to rest for a while, so they'll have enough energy for another massive explosion, when Bryan wins the title. On top of that, Bryan will have more time to recharge his batteries for the main event.

Bryan defeats Triple H with the running knee (Triple H already tapped once at Mania. It's not happening again) to move on to a triple threat match, but it's not going to be that easy. I can easily see a furious and embarrassed Triple H taking out his frustrations on Bryan with a brutal post-match attack.

Bryan goes into the main event to overcome the odds to beat Orton and Batista as a wounded fighter, and we'll see one hell of a spectacle with Bryan holding up the WWE and WHC, and the entire crowd chanting "YES!"

WWE NEEDS to pull the trigger on Bryan at Wrestlemania with no shenanigans (Summerslam, Battleground, Night Of Champions, etc.). I get the whole point of the scrappy underdog chasing the brass ring, but at some point, you need to deliver a real pay off to keep the fans from losing interest. Wrestlemania is the perfect stage, and the timing is right.

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if Evolution returned for another run. I find it hard to (or damn near impossible) believe it's all one big coincidence with Bryan fighting off Triple H, Batista, AND Randy Orton to get to the WWE WHC. They're all heels now, so an Evolution return is not an unrealistic possibility.

All three men have a common enemy now, and without the WWE WHC, Orton can join forces with Batista to make Bryan's life a living hell. If I'm using recent events as a continuing pattern, something big (i.e. Lesnar's return) happens on the Raw after Wrestlemania. So when you consider the series of recent events, we could see the image of a reunited Evolution standing together over a beaten WWE WHC Daniel Bryan with Line In The Sand playing in the background on the post Wrestlemania XXX Raw.

 

[wwe fan2009]

Bryan def beats HHH. no way are they doing heel vs heel one on one. there is no way they would do that at WM 30. Bryan will be added to ME.

 

[enviousdominous]

The WWE must really love messing with our heads. Up until RAW last Monday, Daniel Bryan didn't have a definite match at Wrestlemania XXX. Sure, there was speculation all over the internet suggesting exactly what we got on RAW. Up until last Monday, it was all just speculation.

Bryan Danielson was always a crowd favorite, he had a knack of getting the crowd to join in with a rousing chant. Sure, he performed for smaller crowds than the WWE offers when he'd own them. Either way, crowds seem to love this guy. I've been right there with everyone else shouting "YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD KICKED IN!".

People can't help but wonder if the "YES!" chants could have benefited anybody, I honestly don't think so. Daniel Bryan is a character that gets so riled up that all of his contained rage explodes into a response of "YES!" or "NO!". Most other performers prefer to be calm cool and collected until something pushes their buttons and they scream entire sentences while flashing the crazy eyes. Daniel Bryan doesn't just give his opponents a verbal beat-down, he involves the crowd in whether or not he approves.

Everytime we psyche ourselves up for a Daniel Bryan match, there's a great deal of doubt floating around the internet. People wonder if the "YES!" chants will start to ware thin and if Daniel's lack of size will cause him to fall out of favor. Then we tune into Daniel Bryan's actual match, and we're hooked all over again. Daniel Bryan wasn't an underdog when he retained the WHC at Elimination Chamber, but the crowd kept cheering for him. Daniel Bryan earns cheers because the crowd sees just how sharp and disciplined his style is. The crowd popped huge when it was Daniel Bryan vs Santino Morella at EC, the crowd popped even louder when Daniel Bryan became the first person to properly sell Sin Cara's La Mistica.

Daniel Bryan doesn't have to be telling an underdog story to sell tickets. He has a large enough fan-base that just want to see him perform. Daniel Bryan won't get stale if he takes the World Title(s) at Wrestlemania XXX, not for his true fans anyway.

 

[Rich the UK WWE Fan 2k14]

I don't see how Bryan has earnt himself the opportunity to be part of the world title match. Beating Triple H doesn't mean he should be injected into that match.

I was looking forward to the reaction Orton/Batista would recieve, now I won't get that.

WWE should swerve fans by holding Orton/Batista before HHH/Bryan. Oh how we'd all laugh.

And oh how the IWC would spend the next Million years bitching about how their boy Daniel Bryan did not main event WM 30.

 

[The Eighties]

Undertaker VS Lesnar is the only match that'll survive a brutal onslaught of heckling and boos, if Bryan loses to Triple H. Everything else? Yeah, the crowd will take a massive diarrhea dump (especially Orton VS Batista) on the rest of card with no restraints, and it's not even close.

I'm guessing they'll go with this match early on in the 8:00 window. You give the crowd a chance to rest for a while, so they'll have enough energy for another massive explosion, when Bryan wins the title. On top of that, Bryan will have more time to recharge his batteries for the main event.

Bryan defeats Triple H with the running knee (Triple H already tapped once at Mania. It's not happening again) to move on to a triple threat match, but it's not going to be that easy. I can easily see a furious and embarrassed Triple H taking out his frustrations on Bryan with a brutal post-match attack.

Bryan goes into the main event to overcome the odds to beat Orton and Batista as a wounded fighter, and we'll see one hell of a spectacle with Bryan holding up the WWE and WHC, and the entire crowd chanting "YES!"

WWE NEEDS to pull the trigger on Bryan at Wrestlemania with no shenanigans (Summerslam, Battleground, Night Of Champions, etc.). I get the whole point of the scrappy underdog chasing the brass ring, but at some point, you need to deliver a real pay off to keep the fans from losing interest. Wrestlemania is the perfect stage, and the timing is right.

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if Evolution returned for another run. I find it hard to (or damn near impossible) believe it's all one big coincidence with Bryan fighting off Triple H, Batista, AND Randy Orton to get to the WWE WHC. They're all heels now, so an Evolution return is not an unrealistic possibility.

All three men have a common enemy now, and without the WWE WHC, Orton can join forces with Batista to make Bryan's life a living hell. If I'm using recent events as a continuing pattern, something big (i.e. Lesnar's return) happens on the Raw after Wrestlemania. So when you consider the series of recent events, we could see the image of a reunited Evolution standing together over a beaten WWE WHC Daniel Bryan with Line In The Sand playing in the background on the post Wrestlemania XXX Raw.

I agree with the points you and Jack made, and I think your Evolution idea could well be on the money, I thought there might be some potential for that the first night Batista returned with Batista helping Orton at the Rumble, but things have played out differently and it would certainly create a big moment for the night after Mania.

Another aspect is I think they are turning The Shield face as a unit and a big six man against Evolution could be something to build towards for Summerslam.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Yeah, at first I thought about an Evolution reunion at Mania, but it makes sense to save it for the night after Mania. Bryan enjoys some relief for overcoming insurmountable odds, and they drop the hammer on him again the night after with Triple H, Batista, and Orton standing together.

If Bryan's going against Batista and Orton in a sustained feud, WWE needs to keep things fresh, and Evolution helps the problem. I can picture Cena joining Bryan to fight off Evolution, and they should feud over the WWE WHC at some point, but that's another story for another time.

Evolution VS The Shield works for me. Definitely something to look forward to, if WWE saves the The Shield split for the end of the year, or 2015.

 

[spg]

I think that they had to do this, they were made to do this, I'm really not sure if Daniel is gonna go over at the end of the night. I think that adds some speculation to the show. I love the thought of CM coming in and screwing him. It really makes the best top card matches you'll see in a long time. Bryan and Punk should be going at each other for the title at this years mania, best closing match you'll see maybe ever. But Bryan HHH makes sense, even though it was meant to be Punk HHH, Bryan still makes more sense than Punk. I think the original plan was, Punk HHH, Bryan Kane(which does sort of make sense), doesn't give the fans what they want. I think a Punk win over Orton and Batista would of made most people a little bit happier, but not in the same way a Bryan win would of worked. I still don't think that is really gonna happen. I think you might at the end of Mania, have HHH clapping Bryan out of the ring, meaning he's an A+ star but not the champion.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

I wonder how much help DB gets throughout the show. Kane could be a face turn given their history. Punk returning to help setting up a summer of punk/Bryan vs evolution could be fun. Culminating in a punk (or Bryan) heel turn. I'm excited for the possibilities.

 

[The Eighties]

Raw is in San Antonio tonight so it'll be interesting to see if HBK shows up, it's just not Mania season without an appearance from The Showstopper!

I wonder how much help DB gets throughout the show. Kane could be a face turn given their history. Punk returning to help setting up a summer of punk/Bryan vs evolution could be fun. Culminating in a punk (or Bryan) heel turn. I'm excited for the possibilities.

I don't think Bryan will get any help to beat Triple H, I think he may well win with a roll up type move but the story is that Triple H feels Bryan is beneath him so he shouldn't go in with a back-up plan.

I do think he'll get help in the title match though as I expect Trips, Steph and Kane to all be out there, but the help I expect him to get will come from The Shield who make a full face turn and set up a feud with Evolution 2.0 for the summer.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

Raw is in San Antonio tonight so it'll be interesting to see if HBK shows up, it's just not Mania season without an appearance from The Showstopper!

I thought about the possibility of Shawn showing up tonight to announce a support role for Triple H at Wrestlemania. Something similar to his cheerleader role in the Lesnar match at Wrestlemania last year, with Shawn playing a heel role to distract Bryan this time around.

Although, the more I think about it, I'm hoping it doesn't happen. Bryan overcoming the odds to defeat Triple H, Batista, and Orton is enough, but you're pushing things too far with HBK in the mix.

 

[Kidpolean]

This is obviously going to lead to a Fatal Four Way where we will see DB pretty much in a handicap match against Evolution. HHH will beat Bryan but DB will, some how, still be inserted in the main event where he will win by making HHH tap out.

HHH winning this match is BEST for business. It keeps the crowd hot all night and when make DB's pop even bigger when he is still placed in the main event.

Maybe have HHH vs DB, with HHH winning, a divas match, than the streak match, than the wwe title match. This way, the divas match will get shit on but nobody really cares and I think Taker is to well respected for the crowd to shit on a streak match. So this gets DB an even bigger pop and protects the rest of the show.