Would the US be in this mess if Hillary had won?

[JenksIX]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/07/o...ed-to-obamas-passion.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all

After reading "What Happened To Obama?" by Drew Weston (link found above) I got to thinking about how our current situation would be had Hillary defeated Obama in the primaries and gone on to defeat McCain for the presidency.

I don't think Hillary would of wasted her time on a lot of the issues Obama has and she would of focused on the economy (as her husband coined the phrase "It's the economy, stupid.")

I was really behind Hillary during the primary, because Obama just wasn't that qualified. He had just become a senator and in 2006 democrats saw potential in him for future runs, but I don't think they even thought he had a shot or the experience at that point to run the country. It really was a dumb move to vote him in with so little experience, but maybe Dems thought he had a better chance to win office then Hillary.

Anyway, do you think the country would be more stable right now if Hillary had been elected instead?

 

[gd]

Ehh probably...country was in some deep shit regardless.

 

[Hazardous]

I said no. Only because the country was fucked either way. It didn't matter who went into office. Obama, the old Muppet, Female Bill. didn't matter. The problems would have been the same.
I think it will be a long time before anyone comes along that had the approval ratings in their second term Bill Clinton did. Bring Bill back. He'll work it all out.

 

[Coco]

Maybe. Obama's certainly proven at this point that he doesn't have the stones to do what's necessary.

 

[JenksIX]

Bring Bill back. He'll work it all out.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

No way, Hillary is the most polarizing political figure in the US that holds any type of office. If you think Republicans are being difficult now imagine if Hillary was in office. They would loose it, the Tea Party would be a Tea Festival.

She would have been all over health care and would have never been able make any compromise. Ever hear of Hillary-care?

Regardless, like Milenko said the country was headed down a negative path before Obama got elected.

 

[Dr. Stinger A. Zoidberg]

Would the US be in this mess if Bush didn't fucking cheat the system and Gore ended up winning?

Seriously, fuck George and Jeb Bush.

 

[JenksIX]

It's a shame McCain didn't win. We would be kicking Iran's ass right now

 

[Hazardous]

if Obama wants to get re-elected there is only one way to do it. Do a drive-by on Fox News. Instant approval rating right there.

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

We were/are fucked either way you cut it.

 

[Serious Mozzarella]

No, because Obama's policies had absolutely nothing to do with the crisis.

 

[jmt225]

No, because Obama's policies had absolutely nothing to do with the crisis.

Actually, Obama has had some pretty good ideas, but he just didn't have the balls to follow through with them. He and the rest of the Democrats have been letting the Teabaggers control this country during his term. It's absolutely pathetic. The Democratic Party is just filled with *****es.

Hilary Clinton, though, is one of the few who won't back down, and whose compromises would make sense. Obama gives way too much to the other side, while they still continue to trash him.

 

[Serious Mozzarella]

Actually, Obama has had some pretty good ideas, but he just didn't have the balls to follow through with them. He and the rest of the Democrats have been letting the Teabaggers control this country during his term. It's absolutely pathetic. The Democratic Party is just filled with *****es.

Hilary Clinton, though, is one of the few who won't back down, and whose compromises would make sense. Obama gives way too much to the other side, while they still continue to trash him.

You're absolutely right, but him not following through on his policies isn't what brought this country down. In retrospect, I could probably change my answer to "yes" considering what's bringing us down is Obama's insistence on caving to any and all Republican demands.

Didn't our credit rating get lowered because the debt ceiling bill was so shitty and failed to bring in any revenue whatsoever?