Would a Superheavyweight Champion work?

[Shocky]

Aside from IC, very few people respect the work done by Giants in the business. The preconceived notion that someone weighs over 225 lbs and stands taller then 6'4" automatically puts them into an inferior wrestler in terms of "real wrestling fans". I get it, they can't do moonsaults, they can't do whatever the smaller guys do.

What Superheavyweights do do is create a sense of Awe by their mere pressence. The physical appearance of a guy like Khali makes most random fans watch in awe of how a person could be that large.

We've seen divisions devoted to cruiserweights, divisions devoted to hardcore, to females, to mid carders, so why no division dedicated to the likes of the 275 pound plus workers?

Say the brand extension didn't exist, in the WWE you could have a division with guys like Show, Khali, Kane, Undertaker, formerly Umaga, or any other monster in history. Or TNA today, guys like Morgan, Abyss, Hernandez among others.

I feel the monsters should have something to do besides one of them being thrown into a David Goliath type of match with whomever the smaller champion is at the time, this would be something to occupy their time when they are not working iwth the World Champions.

 

[Mitch Henessey]

True, the David VS Goliath thing can get old after a while. I knew this would be a focal point in the promo between Mysterio and The Undertaker the other night on Smackdown, and it was. Anyway, I think there's a chance this could work. WWE has the right guys to do this. Kane still has plenty of value left, and can still go in the ring. Mark Henry is pretty over with the crowd, and Taker and Show can always be hot commodities. The major problem to me would be with Khali. He's very slow in the ring, and I think his face turn a while back is one of the only things that kept him from fading into obscurity.

TNA has a nice stable of big men who are more athletic in the ring, than WWE's guys. With WWE's big men, it's more so the power aspect that makes them an amazing sight to see. Morgan and Hernandez can do some pretty amazing stuff for guys their size. Abyss is also a good big man to watch perform. While I think his character has become less interesting ever since after Bound For Glory, he hasn't lost a step in the ring. He's still a power house and brawling type of wrestler, who does moves that amaze us. Plus, he can also move pretty fast.

The only problem that might occur with this, is today's wrestling crowds. They seem to like fast paced matches, gimmick matches, or matches filled with a bunch of crazy spots. Matches from Khali and Kane might bring some boring chants or boos from a live crowd. Matches from big men, especially on the WWE side of things, might not interest crowds now a days.

So I think this would work better on the TNA side of things because It would be awesome to see Morgan and Hernandez go at it for a championship, and I'm imagining this is where TNA will eventually go. Imagine one of them being champion, it would be so cool. On the WWE side of things, I think Henry,Show,and Kane would be good world champions, but I'm not so sure about Khali. Also, each promotion would have to careful on how they market these giants as champion because you don't want them to seem bigger than the world champion. I think it should be treated as an upper mid-card title.

 

[Shocky]

I like the entire idea of sometimes billing the Superheavyweight Champion as a better world champion then the world title. Say a guy like Cena goes up against a Big Show, when the Big Show has dominated the SHW title for 6 months or so. When you have a guy steam rolling with his own title, and then challenging for the world title, it adds more to the storyline.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Good LORDY no. I love you father, but this would be an atrocious idea. People throw fucking fits one even ONE of these dudes is heavily involved on a regular basis, in title contention. If there was a division entirely comprised of them, id give it about a month before live audiences are shitting all over it. Allll over it. The only time "Fucking Huge vs Fucking Huge" works is the occasional circus sideshow match. See; Kahli Vs Show, Backlash 2008, Kane Vs Kahli, WM 23, so on and so forth.

Dont say this shit too loud, Vince could hear you. Then, we are all FUCKED. Is that what you want?

 

[SavageTaker]

If the division is compromised of good workers that can have passable to good matches with each other and those that aren’t very good such as Khali for example, then I don’t see why it wouldn’t work. If the matches are good then I don’t see why people would shit all over the division.

Another thing that I like about the idea is that the matches could bring something completely new to the table. Never before have we seen a division dedicated to just Super heavyweights and I think it would be awesome if a company out there at least gave the idea a chance. I’ll admit, I’m not a huge fanatic like Super Heavyweights like IC is, but I can definitely enjoy a match with them.

The only problem could be is finding enough good workers to add in to the division. If there is only one good worker then what’s the point of having the division since I don’t think one wrestler can carry every guy to great matches? In other divisions there are usually good and bad workers, so I don’t see a problem with the idea unless a company couldn’t find enough good workers.

Overall, it’s a great idea Shocky. I may be a little biased since I do like Super heavyweights, but I could definitely see it working if it’s done correctly. That means we shouldn’t get matches like Khali vs. someone like Big Show. We know those two just don’t have good matches and it would be stupid to have a division centered around them. If they center the division around good workers then I don’t see the harm in trying the idea out.

 

[Stuntz]

NO the simple fact of the matter is that most titles are underused as is right now. Adding another belt especially a "super heavy weight" would just add more boring storylines and take away from the mid carder coming up to the main event level. I respect the giants that can actually perform in the ring, but there are some out there that dont belong(Khali). And in the wrestling community i think that if this did happen they would make the weight over 300 lbs.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Superheavyweight vs Superheavyweight has historically signalled a lack of creative ideas for a particular wrestler. Anytime Kane has feuded with the Big Show or Mark Henry, it's generally signified a stall in the creative process for that particular wrestler.

Furthermore, having an entire division of said matches would take away from the mystique of the SHW's. When men like Andre the Giant, Haystacks Calhoun, and Gorilla Monsoon wrestled, they would often wrestle 3 or even 4 normal sized men at a time and be dominated. Their only one-on-one matches would be against the true best of the best. It kept an air of near-invincibility that an entire championship division would water down. It would be like having a professional wrestling version of a fat kid's table.

The one benefit is that the belt would be made large enough for even Big Show to wear.

 

[D-Man]

Quite frankly, I find a SHW championship insulting.

Historically, the Heavyweight champion of a wrestling promotion is the top dog. Besides them (and not counting the defunct Cruiserweight/Light Heavyweight belts), most championships are more of monikers than weight classes. If we give the SHWs their own belt, there would be major backlash.

#1 - SHW matches are historically dogshit.
When was the last time we saw a truly exciting SHW match? And we're suggesting that we give them a championship, which would open the flood gates for more television time and focus on their division? It's a recipe for failure.

#2 - Pro-wrestling doesn't need another "weight class."
Like I said, promotions have their numerous championships, but the only thing that makes a championship match involving a SHW interesting is when they feud with a Heavyweight champion. This makes the HW champion the underdog, which makes for a great in-ring story. Besides that, there is no need to have championships for different weight classes in a choreographed sport. Hell, the only reason why the HW championship is called the "HW Championship" is because of historical sake. And even THAT is tarnished, considering that most promotions call their top champion the "<promotion name> Champion" (i.e. WWE Champion, TNA Champion, ROH Champion... not WWE Heavyweight Champion).

#3 - The majority of SHW's are historically known to be sloppy in the ring.
Besides rare gems such as Vader, Big Show, Yokozuna, etc., most SHW's are dogshit in-ring combatants. But, if a SHW championship is created, that requires an influx of more SHW's. In turn, this brings in more fat men, more sloppy matches, and more boredom. After all, the main job of a pro-wrestler is to entertain. SHW's are historically known to bore the crowd. It's common sense.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

No. Just...yeah just...just no. Most Superheavyweight matches are, metaphorically speaking, matches that should be stuffed into a burlap sack and dumped in a river. Most of them are absolute crap, it's a strain to watch, they tend to suck the life out of the audience and are a great example of just plain lazy booking.

When I think of a Superheavyweight match, images spring to mind of Khali vs. The Big Show, Andre vs. Big John Studd, Andre vs. King Kong Bundy and all of these matches were absolute shit. In spite of the place in history the Andre/Studd feud has, the matches were just plain atrocious. Now, while you'll see a lot of 300+ pound guys in wrestling today that are in good shape, healthy and all that, putting two of them together in matches still tends to wind up bad.

The Continental Wrestling Association that operated out of Memphis briefly tried to have a Superheavyweight division starting in late 1986 and the champions of the division were guys like Stan Frazier and Jerry Blackwell. It didn't last long at all and reception to it was luke warm at best. It started in November '86 and was ended sometime in 1987. For some reason, they thought that it would work a second time and the division was briefly started up again in May '88 only to quickly die out. If a Superheavyweight division wouldn't work in the 80s, when people were still in awe of all these human mountains, there's no way it'd work today.

 

[King Douche]

I do not think it would work cause most of the big guys suck wrestling wise and nobody wants to see The Great Khali have a match with Mark Henry, or Kane have a match with Vladamir Kozlov or Ezikieal Jackson. Fans would just be so damn bored, and you would hear a pen drop in the audience during them type of wrestling matches.