Will The Revival get the Ascension treatment on Raw 25?

[Vintage Punk]

Maybe it's me over thinking this but on Raw this past Monday, The Revival were interviewed and the legends like New Age Outlaws, APA, Stone Cold, etc were brought up during their interview and they responded about not caring and throwing some shade toward the legends. Hearing this made me think of a couple years ago when the Ascension were first debuting and were made to look like total jobbers (which they became afterward) after the segments they did where they talked crap about old school legends. I really hope this isn't foreshadowing for what's in store for the Revival as they are one of the best tag teams there is and really need to be pushed. They've had terrible luck with the injuries they both suffered since debuting on main roster. But now healthy, please WWE don't make them jobbers like you did Ascension and The Club. These guys need to attack Rollins and Jordan after their match at the Rumble setting up feud for Mania. I think we're all done with Cesaro and Sheamus facing Rollins and Jordan for the millionth time!

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

I certainly hope not. Regardless of how well they do on the main roster, they shouldn't be permanently anchored the way Ascension was. I wasn't impressed by Ascension, but that doesn't mean I was happy to see them buried so shortly after debuting. It's not like it's going to hurt NAO, for example, to get beaten up by a new tag team in order to get them heat. My fear is that since they're debut, Revival has hardly been around, so maybe since they had "nothing for them" now they'll have them get beat up by some old team.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

I feel because of the fact that they tried to push them twice already and both time it blow up in their face because either dash or Dawson got injured then they don't think of them as a important part of the tag divisions so I wouldn't be surprise if that's exactly what the plan are for them next week.

The fact is since they came back, they had their return match on raw, then didn't have another match on raw since then, in fact the only match they had on tv between their return match and last monday's match is a match on main event so any type of push they we're getting before getting injured twice is out the windows and they're just another wasted tag team on the roster.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Impossible. Raw 25 is a whole four days away. No way they can stay healthy until then. If by some miracle they do make it then getting beat up by a large group of tag teams that entertained and helped get fans tuned in would be a good thing for them right now. They really don't have anything else going on. They are easily cut off from the show otherwise. These generic Vaudvillians need something to get noticed.

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Hopefully not, but it's looking that way. Thanks to injuries, WWE doesn't seem to care about them.

Thankfully the tag team division on Raw has so much depth that it doesn't matter...

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Yeah, I'd say they'll be eating finishers from legends all night. It's unfortunate as they're a lot of fun with a ton of ability and potential. However, they've been sidelined by injuries and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Vince views them as little more than fodder to be used at his discretion for whomever.

Any time a bunch of legends pop up, some young guy or guys wind up in a finish fest so the fans can have another nostalgia moment and it's a damn shame really. Personally, I'd rather see them hit the Shatter Machine on the New Age Outlaws or someone rather than be made to look like trained monkeys but I don't see that happening. I might be wrong, I definitely hope I'm wrong, but I just have a feeling Vince plans to use them to "put over" the old veterans so that Raw can have another "cool moment" that fans will forget all about in a few weeks rather than create something that might last a bit longer and actually generate some buzz like rarity of some young & fresh talent actually getting the better of stars who were in their prime 15 to 20 years ago.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

What did the Revival do to get that treatment though?

 

[JoeMallard]

The best tag team in WWE will be buried Monday due to injuries since their call up.

 

[Vintage Punk]

Yeah, I'd say they'll be eating finishers from legends all night. It's unfortunate as they're a lot of fun with a ton of ability and potential. However, they've been sidelined by injuries and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Vince views them as little more than fodder to be used at his discretion for whomever.

Any time a bunch of legends pop up, some young guy or guys wind up in a finish fest so the fans can have another nostalgia moment and it's a damn shame really. Personally, I'd rather see them hit the Shatter Machine on the New Age Outlaws or someone rather than be made to look like trained monkeys but I don't see that happening. I might be wrong, I definitely hope I'm wrong, but I just have a feeling Vince plans to use them to "put over" the old veterans so that Raw can have another "cool moment" that fans will forget all about in a few weeks rather than create something that might last a bit longer and actually generate some buzz like rarity of some young & fresh talent actually getting the better of stars who were in their prime 15 to 20 years ago.

Agreed. Why couldn't we have a legend killer gimmick for them or something like Randy Orton had? I get the nostalgia act of something of legends going over for a big pop by the crowd but that's all it will be and in turn, you're hurting your new stars. They wonder why they have a tough time building up new stars. Maybe look at your history and see what works and doesn't work would be a good place to start! They should have the NAO come down to the ring with their entrance gimmick to get that nice pop, show the clip of the Revival and then talk some crap about them and call them out. The Revival should answer and get the upper hand, delivering a beating on NAO that will bring out Rollins and Jordan or maybe other legends but still have Revival look strong instead of the old "let's have the legends hit their finishers on these guys and leave them laid out in the ring while the legends all celebrate." There is a way to handle this creatively making legends still have a pop and looking somewhat strong but also having the Revival have that upper hand while looking vicious.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

What did the Revival do to get that treatment though?

Well, it's not as if they "did" anything that we know of to warrant it. The reasons some of us feel that it'll happen this way are based on a little history. We know that Vince absolutely loves these sort of segments to go down on special episodes of Raw; we saw it with the Ascension, Daniel Bryan, past Tough Enough winners, etc.. Whenever a special Raw episode is in the midst of airing, or is about to be aired in this case, and some young turks start running their mouths about how much better they are than the legends, those legends show up and put these young upstarts in their place. So yeah, it's not as if they "did" anything to deserve it, at least that we know of, it just fits in with the profile that's usual for this sort of segment.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Well, it's not as if they "did" anything that we know of to warrant it. The reasons some of us feel that it'll happen this way are based on a little history. We know that Vince absolutely loves these sort of segments to go down on special episodes of Raw; we saw it with the Ascension, Daniel Bryan, past Tough Enough winners, etc.. Whenever a special Raw episode is in the midst of airing, or is about to be aired in this case, and some young turks start running their mouths about how much better they are than the legends, those legends show up and put these young upstarts in their place. So yeah, it's not as if they "did" anything to deserve it, at least that we know of, it just fits in with the profile that's usual for this sort of segment.

Yeah but, why not choose, you know... JOBBERS? Why your fresh team? Coming from a brand (NXT) you hype so much?

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Yeah but, why not choose, you know... JOBBERS? Why your fresh team? Coming from a brand (NXT) you hype so much?

Because it's WWE. They ruin people's momentum all the time for no reason.

They only want "their guys" getting over, and if you're not one of their guys, you're going nowhere.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

Because it's WWE. They ruin people's momentum all the time for no reason.

They only want "their guys" getting over, and if you're not one of their guys, you're going nowhere.

Their also the little fact that they think that the revival are injury prone so they're not going to risk pushing them after they tried twice already only to get burn with one of them getting injured one week into their push.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Yeah but, why not choose, you know... JOBBERS? Why your fresh team? Coming from a brand (NXT) you hype so much?

It is Mania season, they don't have anything better to do with The Revival but they want them to get exposure instead of wrestlers who they expect to make them less money.

Because it's WWE. They ruin people's momentum all the time for no reason.

They only want "their guys" getting over, and if you're not one of their guys, you're going nowhere.

Revival are their guys. Two guys who are lucky to make it as far as they have.

Their also the little fact that they think that the revival are injury prone so they're not going to risk pushing them after they tried twice already only to get burn with one of them getting injured one week into their push.

You don't know what they think. A segment or two with some former talent that is going to get a lot of eye balls is good for the Revival. It is memorable, it gets them attention for the vast majority of the audience that currently couldn't care less about them and it makes fans like you who have their panties in a bunch actually care about them more.

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Revival are their guys. Two guys who are lucky to make it as far as they have.

I don’t think it’s fair to say the Revival are “lucky” to be here. They got here by being probably the best tag team in the world down in NXT. Two injuries doesn’t change that. And if you don’t push them, then who are you gonna push? Slater and Rhyno? Titus Worldwide?

Their also the little fact that they think that the revival are injury prone so they're not going to risk pushing them after they tried twice already only to get burn with one of them getting injured one week into their push.

There’s no reason to intentionally bury them like the Ascension. They’re too talented to be wasted.

Also there’s no one else in Raw’s tag team division. Do you really want to see Rollins and Jordan vs Cesaro and Sheamus for (at least) another 3 months?

 

[Really?]

I'd love to see them used properly. They are a great old school tag team. Put them in an updated Dangerous Alliance faction with Brock, Rousey, and Shinsuke (move him off SD), and there'd be money made.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

You don't know what they think. A segment or two with some former talent that is going to get a lot of eye balls is good for the Revival. It is memorable, it gets them attention for the vast majority of the audience that currently couldn't care less about them and it makes fans like you who have their panties in a bunch actually care about them more.

Yeah, the exact same segment did wonders for the Ascension in 2015 on the same type of show they're doing next week.

The fact is, The revival came back last month and half now if i'm not mistaken and they had a total of three matches on tv since the came back. The got a nothing match against rhyno and heath slater which help start Slater and rhyno's storyline, they had a match on main event and last's week's squash match, so i'm thinking that the Revival aren't really a priority right now especially with the fact that while Dawson was injured, Dash was pretty much getting jobbed out on main event every week.

They're stock within the company as fallen big time because of those injury and they have a precedent of being cautious with talents that get injured after they gave them a big push, The revival got not one but two big push and they blew it both time big getting injured so sadly, if you look at the history of WWE, they're not going to push them for awhile now and they're pretty much at the same level as Heath Slater & rhyno right now and having them getting beat up by some legends on raw won'T help them climb back up because the fans will looked at them as jokes after this.

The only way you can salvage the Revival with a segment like that is if they are the one that are beating up the legends but i doubt they would do that.

 

[Psykohurricane55]

There’s no reason to intentionally bury them like the Ascension. They’re too talented to be wasted.

Also there’s no one else in Raw’s tag team division. Do you really want to see Rollins and Jordan vs Cesaro and Sheamus for (at least) another 3 months?

The was no reason to bury the Ascension in 2015 but they did it because they could. Sadly, i feel they given up on the Revival for now which is a shame because i'm with you i think they are too talented to be wasted but i feel like right now, the focus will be on gallows and anderson after Cesaro and Sheamus are done with Rollins and jordan and that program between Rollins and Jordan vs the balor club will probably last until mania. So for now, sadly, the revival are expendable.

Let's just hope that i'm wrong on this and that they get another chance after blowing they're first 2 but i really doubt it since Dash when through part of the fall jobbing to heath slater and rhyno on main event while Dawson was still injured.

 

[Wildcat66]

The Revival is done for: They had two chances to get their big push, and they blew it because they got injured.

Anytime you get injured at the worst possible time: It usually means the company is going to be less willing to push you in a top position. Barrett, Ziggler and Emma can vouch for that.

Sure, maybe the Revival shouldn't be destroyed by legends: But even if they don't, I can't see them getting any more chances from WWE for the time being. Especially if they get the label of being 'injury-prone', and if that happens: Any chance of being relevant in WWE is out the window.

Honestly, a part of me thinks The Revival got called up a little too soon. At the very least, they should've at least gotten to face Sanity or The Undisputed Era at some point. One can only imagine what such a match would be like.

It's a shame when you think about it, because they're a really good tag team from what I've seen and they can hold their own in the ring and on the mic. But man, they've been dealt some pretty bad hands.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I don’t think it’s fair to say the Revival are “lucky” to be here. They got here by being probably the best tag team in the world down in NXT. Two injuries doesn’t change that. And if you don’t push them, then who are you gonna push? Slater and Rhyno? Titus Worldwide?

Wait, wait, wait. They were popular in NXT. Well if that doesn't equal success on the main roster than I don't know what will. <sarcasm>

They are no name wrestlers with with generic looks that haven't had much time (none recently) on the main roster. They haven't accomplished much on USA Network.

It is mid January, you generally don't push tag teams at all at this time. The tag division is not going to get much attention right now. Where are they supposed to fit in right now? There is no room on the RR card for a secondary tag feud from Raw.

There’s no reason to intentionally bury them like the Ascension. They’re too talented to be wasted.

If they are that talented they will overcome getting to work with some of the biggest talent in WWE history. The Ascension are not that talented. If you really think The Revival are that good, you would have more faith in their abilities.

Also there’s no one else in Raw’s tag team division. Do you really want to see Rollins and Jordan vs Cesaro and Sheamus for (at least) another 3 months?

No, but not for the same reason as you. I want to see Jason Jordan's story go to the next level. If I can't get that yet I will take more great matches from this group.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

Perhaps it's not going to go how you think... Remember Austin has spoken highly of The Revival on his podcast, so he's not likely to want to help bury them... but if some kind of interaction will help them, even if they end up taking a stunner each... it's still a rub

I could see one of the legend teams losing to them... APA seems most likely, but Outlaws could too...only for Austin to show up and Stunner them. They get a win, to back up their point and probably a "mark out" moment for themselves taking a Stunner... remember how Ambrose got caught grinning when Jake put the snake on him?

If Jordan is now injured, then the belts have to come off he and Rollins... which means a win over former champions on RAW 25 puts Revival in the place they can demand a title shot.

I've also never quite gotten this logic or theory that if you get a couple of injuries you're done... in both cases they were in ring injuries and a broken jaw can happen in ANY match at any time... so it's not a problem with how they work... in both cases their rehab went smooth and they were back bang on schedule... if anything that shows more commitment than weakness... they did what was needed to minimize the time away, unlike some others who seem to take forever to come back.

 

[BigDaddyKewl]

I'd hope they do something meaningful and use the legends to help get the Revival over. Maybe they could attack the New Age Outlaws while they're doing entrance and usual promo. Maybe attack the Dudleys who are long time friends of Rhyno as a way of continuing they're feud with Rhyno and Slater. But I agree I hope they don't get the Ascension treatment. I rewatched that segment the other day and as cool as it was to see stars from the attitude era like the nWo, DX and the APA and as much as the crowd pops for it they still completely buried the Ascension that night and they never recovered from it.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

How refreshing would it be if they took out the New Age Outlaws and the APA?

 

[Psykohurricane55]

So it could have been worst. They got squash by the balor club and then got beat up by DX, at less they got some exposure. Let's hope that this will help them climb up the tag division and that this isn't a sign that they will be treated the same way as slater & rhino and Titus worldwide.

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

They lost to a team with a slightly newer angle now that they've combined with Finn to form Balor Club, Gallows and Anderson....in less than 2 minutes. That's probably a much worse sign than the generic old timer beat down that they received right after.

If this is The Ascension treatment than that is a major shame for The Revival.