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Will Sheamus EVER lose?

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Ever since winning the royal rumble,shemaus has been on a huge roll.I can't remember the last time when he lost any match.Every opponent that's been thrown at him has gone down miserably.This makes me think will shemaus ever lose?Hell,even john cena lost 1-2 matches even in his initial run.This winning streak doesn't make shemaus big rather makes his opponents good for nothing.So my question is,when will shemaus lose a match?And who would be able to beat him?
 
Alright, while I don't have an answer who is going to be the one, I'm simply going to state the formulas on the last time he had a championship and lost them. The first time he lost his WWE Championship, he was defeated in an elimination chamber. The second time, he lost in a six-pack challenge. The third time he lost a championship, was his United States Championship in a tables match. If we use this past information, it's clear that he had to be defeated where the odds were truly against him. Tables match earned him and lost him championships, numbers game was decisive, but we're already seen the Fatal 4-way, 2 out of 3 pin falls, so unless a really great competitor comes up at HitC, Survivor Series, or even TLC, it's clear it has to be an upset, stipulation, or something that gives clearly Sheamus a disadvantage.
 
Can i use Foley from this week. Who cares about statistics, its about the moments. Who cares if Sheamus is winning every single match? It does make him look big. It makes whoever is able to derail Sheamus one day look big (unless its Ziggles cashing in cheaply which will probably be the case).

Just imagine if say Big Show wins the world title in 2 months then as Ziggles tries to cash in the immovable object that just beat the unstoppable force prevents the cash in. Of course that won't happen but what I'm trying to say is they are building it up so the next winner of the belt is a big deal as they beat the unstoppable force that is currently being built up known as Sheamus.

Make your champion look big so whoever beats him looks big (or unless they are going for a weak heel then a weak heel).
 
Everyone has to lose eventually. I'm not a fan of the way they have booked Sheamus since winning the championship personally. They're trying to hard to get him over as a top competitor. They have been building him up to be a top 5 guy in the company. The only problem is the wins he gains no one really cares about. He is winning so much it's starting to make people look forward to his loss more than his win which is the complete opposite of what you want with a face. I think having an unbeatable character is unrealistic altogether. Someone is always gonna have your number. It would be smarter to allow him to lose and get more emotionally over with the fans. Because the fans aren't perfect, so how could they relate to someone who is? My point is eventually fans will turn on Sheamus just like Cena if they keep it up. Obviously for a title run he is required to win all the Pay Per View matches but they could have easily had him lose on Raw or Smackdown. There is only a couple people who i believe WWE would let go over him right now and that would be CM Punk, John Cena, Randy Orton, Ryback, Undertaker (If you count him), Brock Lesnar (If you count him), The Rock (If you count him), and Triple H (If you count him). Those are the only people who would have a chance at defeating Sheamus right now. Ziggler will cash in on Sheamus most likely after he goes through Hell in a Cell and get the cheap victory. But i have a feeling that Sheamus will continue to be victorious. And if they keep the WWE Championship on CM Punk, i wouldn't be surprised if after dropping the World Heavyweight title that Sheamus made his way over to Raw to be a contender to Punk.
 
Sheamus winning so much makes his opponents look good for nothing???? Wow. I'm sorry but this thread screams typical IWC logic to me. Internet fans claim to want strong champions and meaningful title runs, but then complain whenever they get it.

If you want to build someone as a strong & meaningful champion, the simplest and usually the most successful method of doing that is to have said champion win his matches. The WWE has built Sheamus to be a strong babyface champion and while I personally like Sheamus better as a heel, I think he's done a good job thus far. From an overall perspective, Sheamus is the strongest World Heavyweight Champion the WWE has had in quite a while. He's had the title for 6 months and has consistently taken on all challengers in any sort of setting or match, even when it looks as though the odds are against him.

What the WWE is doing with Sheamus is a good way to build long term main event level stars.
 
Sheamus is champ, so it's a good thing he's not losing matches like The Miz currently, or like when Santino and Christian were US and IC champs respectively. With that said, it's not good for Sheamus to be too dominant. He needs some vulnerability to be an interesting champ. He doesn't have to lose matches necessarily to appear vulnerable. There are many ways to accomplish that. Part of the problem is that they didn't prepare any good heels to feed to Sheamus. He had that great two-out-of-three fall match with Daniel Bryan after their Wrestlemania fiasco, which was great because both men came out of that rematch looking strong. But Sheamus has been stuck with Del Rio for too long. Del Rio has virtually no heat and his character has been badly damaged from over a year of weak booking. Plus Sheamus has defeated him soundly over and over. It was an uninteresting feud that got less interesting with every interaction.

Let's not forget that through even more short-sighted booking, they've already had Sheamus run through Dolph Ziggler multiple times on TV in a short period of time.
 
Well he has to lose eventually! Unfortunately the fans are the ones who are losing weekly as long as Sheamus is the champ. His has been old since he won the belt. It blows that HHH has decided he is the face of the company after Cena.

I know the IWC love the guy but really, what has he done to excite the wrestling world? Punk, DB, Orton, and Cena are the WWE household names. Sheamus is very vanilla and boring in the ring. I KNOW Orton and Cena are also and as much as I can't stand either of them, at least they put their limited abilities to good use.

Sheamus has held the belt a LONG TIME, and defended it against competition that no one cares about. At least with Punk they have him defend against household names.

I get the feeling that Sheamus will lose to Ziggler after Ziggler cashes in when Sheamus is down. Sheamus is becoming more like Super Cena every day. THEN the next night on RAW or SD, Sheamus will steamroll though Ziggler to recapture the belt. That's if Ziggler still has the case. I get a sick feeling he will lose the case in a stipulation match to someone and that person will be the second one to lose when having the MITB case.
 
Sheamus is the champ, why wouldn't he be on a roll? Sheamus winning doesn't make everyone else look weak, it just makes Sheamus look like as if he's the top of the food chain. He's the champion why would he not look like that?

Usually in title matches Sheamus doesn't look so much more dominant than lets say Daniel Bryan or Del Rio, quite the opposite actually. At Extreme Rules Sheamus looked half dead when he beat Daniel Bryan and did the same with Del Rio as well. Sheamus of course wins and looks strong but he makes his opponents often look strong in defeat as he should. There were often times in matches where Sheamus looked lucky to walk out champion instead of dominant. Back to Extreme Rules it more looked like Sheamus lost due to Bryan screwing up rather than Sheamus destroying him.
 
i think that the tag titles have passed the whc as the b new b titles. Its because sheamus has had a terribly boring run as whc. I feel like the title is going to be in the same pile as the intercontinental title and divas title, in which they dont matter anymore. I understand people saying you have to make him look strong, but you can do that without him looking unstoppable. And you want to talk about cena being cheesy, sheamus is the cheesiest wrestler i have seen in years. I just cant stand watching him.
 
What a shock, no WONDER why Sheamus is becoming Super Sheamus. I just read an article that HHH is pushing hard for Sheamus to be Cena's replacement though he's 35. HHH wont push Punk or anyone else.
 
Shemaus wont be Mr. unstoppable forever. He'll lose his belt as soon as Mark Henry gets back. Actually I think Ziggler will get it first and that Shemaus and Mark will feud ending with Mark Henry beating Dolph and Shemaus beating Henry sometime in the middle of next year
 
What a shock no WONDER why Sheamus is becoming Super Sheamus. I just read an article that HHH is pushing hard for Sheamus to be Cena's replacement though he's 35. HHH wont push Punk or anyone else.

You do realize, CM Punk is 34 in a few weeks, right? And Sheamus will be 35 in January.

Who gives a flying crap about age??? As long as Sheamus can convincingly keep up in the ring until he's 41-43, then his career will be considered a success.

I personally think that they shouldn't have pushed Sheamus as a goodie-good but rather kept his badass persona and turned him face. I'm not a fan of him making short stories about his fictional family members, saying "arse" to no reaction from the crowd (I'm sorry, Smackdown's canned-laughter doesn't count), trying to be funny in promos, etc. I liked him as a speaker when he had his first run. Also I found his look and attitude to be both believable and proven for the main event scene. He's the only guy other than The Rock and Punk to cleanly beat Cena in the last 5 years.

That said, I think that he should lose his championship in a controversial way. So that the fans have more of a reason to really want to see him kick someone's ass. Maybe turn Booker heel and have him support a monster heel, and have that heel feud with Sheamus. And eventually through interference, the monster wins the belt. Then they trade victories in matches back and forth and instead of turning the heel into a pansy, they have Sheamus simply "Superman" himself to the win at a PPV. The crowd loves the payoff, and then Ziggler can come in and take it with his MITB. Thus setting up Ziggler's run with the belt and feud with Sheamus.
 
So my question is,when will shemaus lose a match?And who would be able to beat him?
When WWE loses an interest into him. :)

They build him good and strong(he is WWE heavywheight champion and should be builded like that) but they overhype him too much. He is No2 face of the company and he is not that over in the eyes of the crowd. His in-ring abilities are good but he lacks in everything else and I just dont see him as overall that good.

He will probably lose title soon while Ziggler cashes in his MiTB briefcase but he will start losing when WWE lose their fate in him and that is(for some to me very unclear reason) nearly impossible right now because they have such high regard into him.
 
I think we all agree that the WHC is second rate to the WWE title. So for all of you saying that he's the champ so he should be booked that way, with him never losing, look at how his counterpart has been booked. Punk has been pinned cleanly by Daniel Bryan and Chris Jericho during his feuds with him but does it make him look weak? I don't think it has.
 
I hate the fact that Sheamus is becoming the second John Cena of the WWE. With all his long title reigns, winning streak.. f' that! We want a new WHC already. For instance, someone like Dolph Ziggler deserves to win/ in other words to cash in and win the title. Wade Barrett would be my next choice right after DZ. Sheamus has been boring ever since he won the the Royal Rumble. Can you believe it? His mic skills are horrible. He's not entertaining at any possible aspect. So as I said before, if anyone was to be the new WHC, this person would either be DZ since he hasn't cashed in his mitb contract yet or WB with the all Barret Barrage gimmick. Even if neither men beat Sheamus, lets hope they make him drop the title soon..
 
I dont really have a problem with him not losing. They are trying to make him look like a dominant world champ. I tried to like the guy, but I couldn't. I just cant get into his character. Its not something that appeals to me as a fan.

They have been trying to make him into Cena 2.0. Its been going on for a while when he started cutting promos about being picked on and bullied as a kid. He started saying all those things because they were trying to get him to appeal to children. All his insults and jokes are just lame.
 
Sheamus will lose at Hell In a Cell after defeating The Big Show to retain the World Heavyweight Championship, The Big Show will knock him out with the WMD and then Dolph Ziggler will come running down to the ring and cash in The Money In The Bank Contract, Defeated Sheamus and win the World Heavyweight Championship. Then Hopefully Ziggler will defeated Sheamus in the Rematch and they will never let Sheamus hold the title again because he is just Useless.
 
Well he has to lose eventually! Unfortunately the fans are the ones who are losing weekly as long as Sheamus is the champ. His has been old since he won the belt. It blows that HHH has decided he is the face of the company after Cena.

So that decision is final? You must have some inside information. How is the McMahon-Helmsley household these days?


Sheamus has held the belt a LONG TIME, and defended it against competition that no one cares about.

How is this exactly Sheamus's fault?

At least with Punk they have him defend against household names.

Again, how is this Sheamus's fault?

I get the feeling that Sheamus will lose to Ziggler after Ziggler cashes in when Sheamus is down. Sheamus is becoming more like Super Cena every day. THEN the next night on RAW or SD, Sheamus will steamroll though Ziggler to recapture the belt. That's if Ziggler still has the case. I get a sick feeling he will lose the case in a stipulation match to someone and that person will be the second one to lose when having the MITB case.

I'll laugh my ass off in glee if Ziggler cashes in and loses for two reasons. One reason is how they have booked him since winning the case. The second reason is that Ziggler is only as good as his competition. When he's against guys like Cena and Orton he shines because Cena and Orton and are that good. I've yet to see him make anybody better and I don't see it happening anytime soon.
 
I first had thought Sheamus would have a good title reign but now it's getting to be kind of predictable and boring.
His feud with Daniel Bryan was good, I was interested in it following WM28.
The LONG fued with Alberto Del Rio started to lack Interest in me.
Now the fued with Big Show I hope will end Sheamus title reign. I think the only way his reign would be better now is if he turned heel like '10 but I doubt that will happen. I can see either a cheap ending at Hitc with either Show attacking Sheamus or my dream that Big Show wins and Ziggler cashes in.
 

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