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Why is Everyone So High on TNA's Tag Team Division?

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i dont get it and i see it all the time on this forum. everyone loves the tna tagteam division. but why? is it better than wwe's? yes. but that really isnt saying much. lets take a look

Beer Money

MCMG

Generation ME

Ink Inc

thats it? thats the division that is so amazing? thats the best tagteams in the world?

the orlando jordan and eric young team is/was a joke (havent seen them in while so who knows if they are ever gonig to be brought up again)

london brawling never really got started and dont seem to be comming back

team 3D is done and lets face it, they havent been good in about 5 years

gunner and murphy are just body guards



and of the 4 actually teams in tna, only two have ever done anything. generation me have been said to be the next hardy boys but atleast matt can cut a promo. neither of them is any good with the mic. Ink Inc are just together because they both have tattoos and mohawks, and again neither can cut a decent promo.


are MCMG and Beer Money the best two tagteams in the world? YES. a thousand times YES, but two teams do not make the division.
 
I think it really is all a matter of quality over quantity. I mean look at the attitude era, one the best times for tag teams in WWE you had the Hardys, the Dudleys, Edge and Christian, and I guess you can count the APA, and a few other less notable teams and factions who came and went. Those four teams are regarded as some of the best ever and teams like Beer Money and MCMG are in that position now. TNA has a much better tag devision than WWE right now because they don't have a lot of random teams who come in and win the title once and break up, they have teams that are together for years and over time get to know each other so well that they always put on 5 star matches together. Also if TNA wants to give us MCMG, Beer Money, Gen Me, and Ink Inc I'll take it over Santino and Kozlov any day.
 
Why? Because as shallow as it is it's miles ahead of the WWE division and naturally people exaggerate an important aspect of wrestling which TNA is better at than WWE. And also the top 3 tag teams in TNA are legitimately awesome and people are still high on the great mactehs we've had this year. Give it time, once it starts getting stale or the quality of matches drop due to the introduction of new shitty tag teams people won't be so fond of the TNA tag team division.
 
You aslo have AJ and Kaz who've teamed a few times recently
The Hardy's are a no brainer to reform

I'm hoping they put Okada with Kiyoshi, they'd kick ass.
I can also see Williams and Magnus reforming the British Invasion with Desmond Wolfe this time.

TNA has the depth, they just need to use them better.
 
I gotta agree. Look at years ago with TNA where you had America's Most Wanted, LAX, Triple X, The Naturals (though they didn't end up that good), Team Canada, Kid Kash and Lance Hoyt, AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels. Now all you have are the teams mentioned at the start of this thread. Generation Me is nowhere near ready so basically all you have are Beer Money and the Guns. That's it. And I also agree, 3-D has been a ho-hum team to watch for the last few years.
 
Because it's better then the WWE's tag team division, and no one watches RoH. Chikara is too gimmicky for most people to just enjoy, so people aren't even looking there, but there's is better as well.

Ever since that good series between Beer Money and MCMG, people have been going on about how great TNA's tag team division is, but it's not a great division. It's the best tag team division on cable, in a pretty shallow pool. If you want to watch tag team wrestling on TV, by all means, it's not getting much better then TNA right now. But to say amazing things are happening in TNA's tag division is just a bit of an oversell.
 
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i dont get it and i see it all the time on this forum. everyone loves the tna tagteam division. but why? is it better than wwe's? yes. but that really isnt saying much. lets take a look

Beer Money

MCMG

Generation ME

Ink Inc

thats it? thats the division that is so amazing? thats the best tagteams in the world?

the orlando jordan and eric young team is/was a joke (havent seen them in while so who knows if they are ever gonig to be brought up again)

london brawling never really got started and dont seem to be comming back

team 3D is done and lets face it, they havent been good in about 5 years

gunner and murphy are just body guards



and of the 4 actually teams in tna, only two have ever done anything. generation me have been said to be the next hardy boys but atleast matt can cut a promo. neither of them is any good with the mic. Ink Inc are just together because they both have tattoos and mohawks, and again neither can cut a decent promo.


are MCMG and Beer Money the best two tagteams in the world? YES. a thousand times YES, but two teams do not make the division.

I couldn't disagree more. You can also throw London Brawling in the mix. Plus most of "throw together tag teams are good too, far better than any tag teams WWE have. Orlando Jordan and Eric Young are better than the current WWE tag teams. What does that say? Also, like another poster said here you must believe that alot of tag teams means that it's better division. You could not be more wrong about that. Six legit tag teams makes for the best tag division in pro wrestling including ROH.
 
I think you need to look at the bigger picture its not the fact that its good now its the fact that its always been good! Look at the history from America's Most Wanted,Triple X, Team Canada,LAX,Beer Money,MCMG,Gen me and now The Hardys reforming every now and then.All of the teams above always put on 10 star matches and naturaly TNAs division has changed over time. But even though its changed its always stayed good. TNA put the time in to make teams and make the divison good,I just wish the put the same time in with there X divison.
 
I sort of see where the OP is coming from. I like TNA's tag team scene and believe that it's been one of the only good things to come out of TNA in 2010. At times, however, I do think that a lot of us, and I know I've done this, have sort of hyped TNA's tag team scene as being some shining beacon of what tag team wrestling ideally should be. When you actually sit down and think about things for a minute, it's an alright situation but it's not nearly as good as we've made it out to be.

I know that the big thing is "TNA's tag team division is better than WWE's" and I agree that's true. But, quite frankly, it's only that way because of three reasons in my view: 1. The WWE puts virtually no effort into their tag team division, 2. the Motor City Machine Guns and 3. Beer Money.

Beer Money & The Guns are really the only two great teams in the tag team division. Not that teams like GenMe & Ink Inc. aren't fun to watch and all, but they do have several noticable shortcomings that keep them out of the same level as The Guns & Beer Money. They're really the two elite teams on the roster. Take them out of the equation, and TNA's tag team scene loses most of its strength.
 
Because it's better then the WWE's tag team division, and no one watches RoH. Chikara is too gimmicky for most people to just enjoy, so people aren't even looking there, but there's is better as well.

Ever since that good series between Beer Money and MCMG, people have been going on about how great TNA's tag team division is, but it's not a great division. It's the best tag team division on cable, in a pretty shallow pool. If you want to watch tag team wrestling on TV, by all means, it's not getting much better then TNA right now. But to say amazing things are happening in TNA's tag division is just a bit of an oversell.
clearly there are people that watch ROH, maybe not as much as the other two but enough do and recognize the talent there. Frankly I'd love to see Beer Money or the Guns go against Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin, The Kings of Wrestling, The Dark City Fight Club, The American Wolves and most of all The Briscoes. And you forget, Gen Me and the Guns both came from ROH. And lately with ROH, I feel like I'm seeing the Christopher Daniels of old but thats another topic.

WWE's tag roster is crappy because they split up every team they have. Look at Cryme Tyme and now the Hart Dynasty. That's cause Vince doesn't give a damn about tag team wrestling anymore. TNA once had a great one but now that's not the case anymore. I also think London Brawling has potential and Gen Me has the skill. But right now it's hard to see TNA doing anything other than Beer Money and the Guns.
 
I think people are looking at the now, and saying thats how its always been. Sure, its not as hot now, but as others have said, in the past it was amazing. And it hasnt been mediocre for too long. Right now, they have finally given the guns the titles. I know it happened a couple months ago, but everyone pretty much agrees that it was long overdue. But they are the team fueding with fortune/immortal. (sidenote: can they just choose 1 name. just all be immortal damnit. having a group in a group is dumb) So these are the 2 teams that will be heavily pushed. lax, didnt mean much, till they called out aj and daniels. aj and daniels didnt mean much till they took out americas most wanted. tna, has the best 2 tag teams ive seen in a long damn time, and they are relatively recent additions. im sure that this time next year, we can add another team or too to the list. and lets not forget the return of the hardys, and now they are main event heels. its great.

as another poster said, if only they could do the same for the x division.
 
I am with Rayne on this issue. Of the two biggest companies out there TNA has the superior tag team division. Very few people watch ROH. I think that only the American audience get to watch ROH on television. In most other countries ROH isn't even televised.

TNA has a great division even if the tags teams are few. As such it does not make a lot of sense to have too many tag teams. They have only one show in which they have to ensure that most of their roster gets TV time. Tag team wrestling gets very little time on the show. 15 minutes at the most would be my guess. So if TNA has 10 tag teams they are not going to be able to give each and every one of them TV time anyway and so they are sticking to only four or five extremely good tag teams.
 
Well it's obvious TNA has a better tag division than WWE since WWE doesn't actually have a legit one. The last time WWE had a pretty good tag division was late 2006 through mid 2007. I wouldn't mind TNA having more tag teams for different match ups. Having the same teams go at it time after time could get stale.

If you remember in 2000 WWF only really had 3 tag teams going at it. E&C, Hardyz, and Dudleyz. They made up all the tag team championship reigns in that year but 2 reigns.

You can have few teams, but I'd like some more diversity.

TNA could advertise "This is where tag team wrestling matters". It is one of their stronger suits.
 
i dont get it and i see it all the time on this forum. everyone loves the tna tagteam division. but why?
My guess is, to put it simply, because they actually have one, unlike WWE.

You don't see tag team members wrestling singles too much, besides "match hyping ones", so to speak. They actually see a tag team division. And when a tag team is put together, even if it's for a bit of time, they actually treat it the same way.

And ROH... Well, I don't really follow it too much, but I think they just have 3-4 tag teams, right?
 
TNA has always had an excellent tag team division. Yeah, right now it does seem pretty thin with only 4 or 5 teams, but WWE does not even have one legitimate tag team that is any good. Kozlov and Santino are just two guys who have been thrown together, and while they have got over, they are 100000 times behind MCMG or Beer Money in terms of match quality or respect from the wrestling fans.

TNA actually allows tag teams to develop as a combo, and build ring chemistry, and use unique double team moves. WWE prefer the technique of letting a team get slightly over before breaking them up and leaving both members with sub-par singles careers...like The Hart Dynasty, Cryme Tyme, La Resistance, The Dudleyz when they tried to make them singles competitors. What about Rhodes and McIntyre? They came up with a team name then got split up that night!

It takes time to become a legitimate tag team, I hate when two random guys get thrown together for a short term, meaningless title run. Give me the MCMG winning the belts after a couple of years of getting ever so close instead of Rhodes/McIntyre or Show/Miz winning the belts in sub-standard matches. At least you are guaranteed a good tag team match in TNA
 
I believe TNA receives a lot of praise for their tag division for two reasons.

Quality Tag-Teams

Simple answer, I know. They have decent teams. The MCMG's are probably the best tag-team on the planet, and they are exciting to watch. Beer Money is probably the best heel tag-team since Edge & Christian. Ink Inc. can put on decent matches, and they have a chance to win the belts at some point.

No Alternative

Most importantly, TNA has shown they actually care about tag-team wrestling. WWE does not. WWE's tag division is so terrible, it actually makes TNA's look better than it really is. Anyone who watches TNA and WWE knows this is true.

I would like to see TNA expand the division a bit, but with only 2 hours of programming each week, it really can't happen right now. TNA believes tag-team wrestling can still be a draw, and so do I. If it's done the right way.
 
Each team fulfills a role or purpose, they are all different and bring something else to the table. Whereas in WWE you had at one point two members of nexus -arrogant young heels, the usos - same, drew and cody - same again. Then you have koztino who are mostly comedy relief, they can work their way through matches but aren't likely to produce any particularly good ones and the heart dynasty who were on the rocks and feuding internally. That was not that long ago when the two companies had the same amounts of teams! But you would never have guessed.

If I list then the specifics of TNA's division. MCMG - young likeable face team with the titles, Gen ME - young cocky heels similar to one of WWE's heel tag teams, Beer Money - more technical with more throws and manoevres and less strikes, also heel... London Brawling - Very technical team able to hold up the promos side of the divison with desmond wolfe being amongst them, and once again heel (starting to look imbalanced), EY and Orlando Jordan - The comedy relief of TNA like Koztino, purely there for laughs so natural faces but also can wrestle better than Koztino, and finally Ink inc. - another face team that are a mixture of high flying with moore and more striking based work with neal, what I refer to as a "filler" tag team, not jobbers but they aren't heading towards titles any time soon, they are there to produce decent matches.

Notice a few things between WWE's division and TNA's? OK firstly, the balance of heels and faces. 3 heel teams, 3 faces. The fact that only one of the face teams is really capable of being successful is useful, it means that you can produce a system whereby the heel teams can feud with them for the belts but if they lose the next heel team can quickly come knocking. And in the process this team can go through OJ and EY, or Ink Inc. to make themselves look dominant. We saw this sytem in place after the best of 5 series between Beer money and MCMG, where London Brawling quickly crept in to make sure there wasn't a week where the tag champs weren't occupied, very good strategy.

So the balance of heel and face, that's an important trait. Another very interesting and watchable feature is the different wrestling styles. The two teams that wrestle most similar to each other are of course MCMG and Gen ME, but as they are on opposed sides, ie heel and face it becomes less important. Other than that London brawling are very technical british style, beer money are a more old school 80s tag teams vibe with big effective moves that win them the match, EY and OJ are just not like anything else quite frankly, MCMG are obviously lightning fast high flyers and brutal strikers, lots of kicks to the head, Gen ME are the same really, and Ink Inc. have that mixture of high flying and more mat based stuff with neal which is different to the rest of the teams.

So they are the first two points, balance of heel v face, and varying wrestling styles. My final point sounds stupid, but they are just better! Better athletes, better promo guys, better wrestlers, better tag teams in general. Sinsterly dashing was lumped together and the two of them had no cohesion at all, you compare that to beer money who got lumped together and formed a dream team purely by accident. No team in WWE, even hart dynasty, could compare to MCMG's style which is very suited to what is popular in the wrestling circuit now and once again they are not only good wrestlers, but a n exceptional TAG TEAM. And look at some of the constituent member for a minute. You've got Robert Roode... a virtual main eventer capable of wrestling very well and doing great promos, Desmon Wolfe who is once again main event material and therefore putting him ina tag team is going to bring the whole division up a lot. Even EY and OJ are generally better wrestlers than Koztino, but probably less entertaining, I personally love both.

The WWE on the otherhand had a team comprised of Nexus, a couple of guys who are, don't get me wrong, good wrestlers (very good in the case of gabriel) but they aren't big names. On the screen they just look like a couple of rookies who are still green. If Vince cared that much about the division he would put bigger names into it like how he had JeriShow last year or DX competing for the tag titles. There isn't a single big name in the WWE tag division, in fact the biggest is Santino and no offence to the guy but that's a bit embarassing for everyone else in the division who might be better wrestlers.
I don't watch TNA xplosion but TNA probably has the potantial to create a new tag team that could look like viable contenders witha snap of the finger, something like amazing red and Brian kendrick and BAM! you've got new number one contenders, WWE can do that but they wouldn't hence why zach ryder is still coasting along on superstars instead of on mainstream television. The only really good tag team WWE has left, the only other tag team WWE has left (and it's shocking to say that) is the Uso's, the Uso's need to win the belts in WWE because god dammit there is nobody else!

TNA's divison gets more TV time, more work in general (empty arena match on reaction, when it was still around) and because everyone has a role, everyone has their own style, everyone is in a more competitive division they need to work harder to stay on top to get picked as the next contenders, and so the quality of matches is thatt high because every team wants to be number one. For me it is a perfect divison because it's like well oiled machine, there isn't a single person out of place, and nothing is done without a good reason. You get supremem matches, great promos and a lot of hungry teams and I don't know what more anybody could ask for.

Personally every time there is a four way tag match on iMPACT, every time they main event I mark out because I know a great match is coming our way. You just couldn't say the same for the other company. Sorry about the long response but TNA's tag teams are something I'm quite passionate about.
 
A ham sandwich is a lot more delicious than a slice of bread with a side of ham.

TNA has some good tag teams in MCMG, Beer Money and Gen Me, but after that, I lose interest either because they haven't had a good run (London Brawling) or not that entertaining (Ink Inc). However those 'ham sandwich' teams like MCMG will always beat half-baked teams like Henry/Tatsu, Santino/Kozlov and McIntyre/Rhodes who feel like two individuals rather than a collective force.

I'm a fan of TNA's tag division but my personal favourite era for tag teams was the early 00's of WWE when you had the big three of E&C, Hardyz and Dudleyz supplemented with the APA, Too Cool, RTC and the Hollys.
 
Because they have the best tag team division in all of televised professional wrestling, by default.

Back when LAX, 3D, etc. were all part of their scene, I agreed that at the time they had the single greatest collection of talent there, but like the X Division that has changed over time, they're resting on their laurels right now with Beer Money and MCMG to carry the entire division.

When that gets stale they're going to be in a really bad spot again if they don't start generating some serious progress with the teams behind them.
 
TNA has less than half the weekly tv time as WWE, and double the tag teams so of course the tag division is gonna stand out and receive praise. It is by no means gonna save the industry, or even the company, but it's pretty much as good as it can be all things considered.
In fact, I think it's just right. There's the up and coming teams who have already showcased a lot of potential in GenMe and Ink Inc. The comedic team in Young/Jordan. The logical throw togethers like AJ/Kazarian, Williams/Magnus. And most importanly the proven teams who are over no matter what in MCMG and Beer Money. All of these teams are over in different ways, so TNA has plenty of room to experiment with ideas for new teams/feuds, and actually be able to get them over via more than one avenue. For instance the Hardy Boys can be reunited for a little and have a convincingly high profile feud with MCMG or GenMe without the titles ever being involved, while Beer Money can carry on as champs and get other teams more over for the future. Sure, TNA may not actually do things like that, but they have the potential to so much more so than WWE that they have at least earned the hype the tag division gets.
 
Simple because they actually have a Tag-Team Division. I am a wrestling fan in general and I do watch mostly WWE however it's very easy to see the TNA tag-team division is MUCH stronger then WWE's. Kozlof and Santino are nothing but a joke. The Uso's could be used better, Nexus should have had a much longer run with the belts, The Hart Dynasty shouldn't have been broken up either but even at those 4 tag-teams the comparison isn't there to TNA. Beer Money is one of the best tag-teams in wrestling in the most recent history of tag-team wrestling. They have swagger, a theme, and have been right in the mix of the tag belts ever since they formed. Then you have Generation Me, until recent history the British Invasion, Team 3D.. Even going back short time ago the Steiner Brothers reforming were a better tag team then what WWE has thrown together for the most part.

I wish WWE did more with the tag-division even Legacy was broken up too soon, Ted Dibiase hasn't done anything exciting since leaving Cody Rhodes. I stated this above but the Uso's came in with what I thought was going to be a good run and maybe they still can but they already lost their manager Tamina and I really wouldn't be surprised if they were broken up or future endeavored or sent to FCW in the near future. I miss the old days of tag teams for sure and tag team wrestling really helps hide some wrestlers weakness's but touching upon their strengths... WWE should form more tag-teams with the mid carders.. or better yet as I've wanted for a long time anyways end the brand split then Tag-Teams could form.. it worked in the 80's and 90's with one brand
 
The reason TNA's tag team division gets so much praise right now is simple: Because the rest of their product sucks. The tag team division and the matches recently have been the only consistent thing that's been any good in TNA's product, so people are praising it and giving it much more credit because the majority of people find mostly negatives in all the other aspects of the product. Truth be told, Ring of Honor has a better tag team division then TNA right now, but they're a smaller company with less exposure and aren't seen quite on the same level as TNA. And of course, WWE's tag team division is abysmall so it makes all the other tag team divisions seem great.
 
The reason is because TNA's tag team division is very solid. You have Beer Money, MCMG, Ink Inc, those other dudes, maybe a returning London Brawling. Which consists of way more tag teams than the WWE and it is an active and entertaining division. Honestly when watching TNA PPV's I look forward to the tag matches, only those and the main events are relevant to me.
 
People are so high on it because in comparison to WWE's non-existent tag team division it looks like gold. Everyone is so eager to compare the two companies so that the fans of each company can say "Yeah, TNA may be doing this wrong, but WWE is doing this, this and this wrong", they fail to see that while the things TNA may be doing are better than that of the WWE or vice versa that still doesn't necessarily make them good.

TNA does have a decent division though, it just lacks depth. They have probably the two best tag teams in the world today in MCMG and Beer Money and some very good teams in Gen Me and Ink Inc, all of these teams are capable of putting on fantastic matches with one another but the problem is after a while they all look like the same match, we are starting to see this with MCMG vs Beer Money and we have already seen it with Gen Me vs MCMG. So if TNA went out and hired a couple more decent teams to really flesh out the division then it would be an awesome division. There is lots of talent in it, just not enough depth.
 

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