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Why has wrestling become so predictable?

Competition isn’t the problem. People think that because there is no viable competition for the WWE that they are going to slack off and give us a shit product, well they are, but I wouldn’t have thought it was for that reason. They still have to draw in viewers, so instead of tuning in to watch their competition if they had any, people will just watch something else, because that’s what 70% of the wrestling fans today are, casual fans they don’t really care if they watch it or not. I think some people have hit the nail on the head with creativity, but I want to touch on something else as well.

Building credible wrestlers. Since the departures of the likes of The Rock, Austin, Hogan, Foley etc… the WWE has been poor at best at building new stars. They built up Lesnar only for him to leave the company, not their fault really. Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit and Rey Mysterio in my book don’t count, they are just wrestlers that were already over that they pushed, they didn’t create them. Now the two people they built up are now being mis-used beyond belief or being shoved down our throats every single show (Batista and Cena). Batista only got over because of Triple H, we all know that. Cena on the other hand is possibly the only binified Main Event player they have built up themselves. Now they see fit to have him go over the entire roster, to the point where the marks even hate him. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate Cena, its not his fault, it’s the way he is being booked. Now you look at the roster and their three most over wrestlers have all been there over ten years… Undertaker, Shawn Michaels and Triple H (when he returns anyway) so what happens when they hang up their boots and they will sooner or later? Actually I missed someone, Edge has been built up perfectly, to the point where I mark out every time I see the guy.

I really think the WWE needs to look back on how they have booked their Main Event players. When I first really got into Wrestling in 2000, I was a mark plain and simple, and watching The Rock vs. Triple H feud that spanned almost six months all I wanted was for The Rock to win, but not in a bad way, The Rock would constantly get beaten down, but he would still keep coming back and eventually he’d get one over on them, only to miss out on the title by a hair, then when he finally won it, it was almost amazing. Now think about this, reverse the rolls there, say The Rock was the Champion, and he continually went over people, never even got beaten down, he was always standing tall at the end of every show, wouldn’t that get boring really quickly? That’s what I’m getting at, the fact that it isn’t Cena, it’s the way he is being booked.

Then you have to look at the fact that nothing really big ever happens on the shows anymore. I mean it would be okay if the Raw’s and Smackdown’s were average if they were putting on stellar Pay Per Views like they did in 1999 and 2000. Its all just so standard and who wants to watch a show where they know exactly whats going to happen?

Basically the WWE need to look at the way things are booked. The fact is that every Wrestling storyline is a hash of an old storyline from somewhere, but it’s the way its presented and booked that gets our asses on those seats.
 
On a slightly unrelated topic, I always found that Edge brought a degree of unpredictability to the main event scene- not surprising when you consider how he broke himself in. He was built up perfectly and what happens? It turns up he's just another person in a long line of Cena's victims and was never meant to be considered a real contender. I was pissed off to say the least. And now, he's finally (sort of) back in the main event scene but it's clear that he and Orton are just in the Backlash main event to, well, I don't really know actually. I thought those two would be perfect having their own fued and not being forced to put other guys over. Come to think of it, why were these two put in the MITB match and not given their own match at WM? Then WrestleMania would have had at least two decent matches and make it less of the crapfest that I now consider it.
 
I dont know what wrestling some of you have been watching lately, but TNA has sucked the big one compared to the WWE

For most of this year RAW has been strong, with matches meaning something, no real goofy storlines and builds to fueds.

Where as in TNA, its been about putting as many things on a pole as possible.. and dont even get me started on the 'eletric cage match' at Lethal Lockdown.. that one even beat out the dog kennel hell and a cell for the worst cage match in history.

Wrestling is what it is these days, its never going to be as exciting and fresh and unpredictable as we want it, because its not, its planned out, thought out way in advance and organised

If you want to be shocked, become a fan of MMA, especially UFC, in the last few months, you've seen 4 or 5 HUGE upsets that nobody saw coming and potientally ruined plans for the next 2 years.. but thats what happens when things are real.

I love wrestling and have done since my first ppv way back at wrestlemania 3, but its glory days are well done, and I love it for what it can be sometimes, just how it is im afraid.
 
Interesting points you bring up there Kingkiwi and welcome to the Board. This year you are right there hasn't really been any goofy stories unless you count the BotB, but that may change if they aren't careful, I personnally like the direction that WWE are now taking RAW, they have a certain unpredictability even on a Taped show noone thought the Main-event would go on as long as it did and be better than the WM match, or last week with Santino MArella winning the IC title.
As for TNA the idea of an ESC isn't that new that TNA just pulled out of their asses, it has been done before in different countries. You seem to forget another Cage match that is quite possibly worse than the Kennel from Hell or the ESC match and that is the Blindfold match that TNA had at Lockdown.

As for what you say on Wrestling never being exciting and fresh because it is planned out, that is utter bullcrap, movies are completely planned out and if they are unpredictable or fresh than they are hailed as such, Wrestling is the same thing. People wold disagree with your statement about the glory days of Wrestling, well the Golden Age has been, the Attitude Era has been, another Boom time in Wrestling is coming soon.
 
You're not the only one that thinks that wrestling is predictable. I stopped watching wrestling full time a few years ago, because it was really getting to me.

Just think about how WWE has been from 2000 (lets say), till right about now. We've been getting the infamous Triple H/HBK feud shoved down our throats for about a year straight (maybe even more). From about 2000 till about mid to late 2003, I was a dedicated fan. It was the end of the Attitude Era, and young stars were coming into the business (ie Brock Lesnar). WWE had more shining moments than bad nights during that time frame if you ask me. You can't put a price on the matches Lesnar had with The Undertaker, Big Show, and Kurt Angle. There were other stars that rose to the top, but whoever Lesnar worked with was always drawing ratings.

From 2000- till late 03, I say the predictability wasn't as great as it is now, which is why a lot of people were tuning in during that time.

And I agree with the fact that WWE has really no big threat to them right now. TNA still has a lot to prove, and I think they are making a move in the right direction as far as they are concerned. Most of all, I think everyone, including the superstars and fans, are sick of Vince. Take a look at some of the big names that have left from 2004, until now..

-Brock Lesnar (NFL, at the time)
-Kurt Angle (TNA)
-Goldberg (Hated Vince)
-Dudley Boyz (If I'm not mistaken)

All-in-all, I think the fanbase has a lot to do with the predictability of wrestling these days. And I also think that time has played a big factor in the amount of predictability that has gone on.

A long post, but I hope I made my point clear.
 
I just joined these forums, and looking through the forums, this topic caught my eye/ I am no where near the die hard fan i used to be but i still like it. Me and a friend talk about how wrestling has just fell off now. I thought it was just me since my little brother loves it. I believe their are three major reasons why wrestling just isn't what it used to be.

1. No competition. with no competition, vince has no one breathing down its neck.
2. Not as much talent/unused talent. Cena can never do for a crowd what austin and rock did. once austin got on top, i never heard him booed until he had a brief stint as a heel. the only time i heard the rock booed once he got on top was the match against hogan and his brief heel stint. batista is just a big guy. hbk, hhh, taker, booker, in my opinion are the big main eventers. WWE also has forgotten how to handle talent. I thought Johnny nitro was terrible when i 1st saw him, but then i saw the match between him and jeff hardy and was very impressed, and then after that hes in a tag team match at the disaster formally as ecw. wtf?!?!?
3. Storylines/Gimmicks. Storyline used to build up, remember the stephanie hhh marriage? that build up for months, maybe even over a year. the storyline dont have the umph that they used to have, which makes it predictable. Certain gimmicks are terrible, what the hell is the Grease tag team? Shelton benjamin and his mom? Its turned into a soap opera.
 
3. Storylines/Gimmicks. Storyline used to build up, remember the stephanie hhh marriage? that build up for months, maybe even over a year. the storyline dont have the umph that they used to have, which makes it predictable. Certain gimmicks are terrible, what the hell is the Grease tag team? Shelton benjamin and his mom? Its turned into a soap opera.

Storytelling in wrestling has always been about drama, to make people feel like they can relate to the characters in a way, or become sympathize for the character. It was always about producing something that the fans could get into. The storytelling years ago was so good, because there were no spoilers leaking out as much as there are now. The internet has become a source for people to take away the outcomes of said storylines. When Hogan ran supreme, there were times when you would think the Hulkster wouldn't win against the Undertaker (for example). Now with the introduction of spoilers and leaked information, people can find out, that yeah, the Undertaker is going to win... it takes away from the feel of it.

However, I agree completely that these storylines and gimmicks are going down hill pretty quick. I did not see the whole Mama and Shelton thing to be all that entertaining in the least. They may want to rethink some of the stories they are producing. Because the spoilers wouldn't exist if there was no hype to the matches. But if you have a lame story, and an even lamer gimmick, people will read the spoilers because they don't care about the wrestlers.
 

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