Why does Metallica hate North America?

[justinsayne]

Ok seriously this shit is just getting on my nerves last summer I was online checking out what bands were gonna be on tour, and Metallica was one of the bands I checked, and looking at the tour dats from last year, they were playing shows pretty much every fucking where else but North America, so I figured, hey maybe this year they'll do a North American tour, yeah right, check this out...

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Two, just two lousy fucking shows in all of North America, what the fuck?!?, I mean I realize these guys have fans all over the world, but it's been fucking forever since they've toured North America, the fucking continent where they first made it big, and danmit I want to see fucking Metallica, I feel I shouldn't have to need a passport and a ticket to some other fucking country to see them, for the love of fucking god Metallica I'm begging show your home country that you still give a shit about them and schedule some fucking tour dates for North fucking America!!!!!

 

[Shadowmancer]

They are doing warm up dates for the release of their new Album. It Makes sense as well from an economic position as the Euro and other currencies are paying better against the Greenback these days. So they are making a lot more money overseas. And combine in that there is a new album coming out this year it is understandable that they don't have many American dates on the tour schedule yet.

 

[justinsayne]

They are doing warm up dates for the release of their new Album. It Makes sense as well from an economic position as the Euro and other currencies are paying better against the Greenback these days. So they are making a lot more money overseas. And combine in that there is a new album coming out this year it is understandable that they don't have many American dates on the tour schedule yet.

Ok, now I know they're working on a new album, but I'll honestly be surprised if it really does come out this year, after seeing all the delays and bullshit they went through with St. Anger, I won't beleive it until I actually see it, or at least hear a new single

As for them doing shows over sees "to warm up" they've been warming up for over two fucking years, how much more warming up do they need?!, I'm not saying they need to do fifty shows or even thirty shows, hell just hit the major cities, do like say fifteen shows, I'll gladly drive a day, day and a half to the nearest show, cause I know it will fully be worth it, as far as money is concerned I really don't think that's that big of an issue, they guys are huge, and people wouldn't think twice at dropping a large sum of cash to see them, personally I'd have no problem dropping $100-$150 for a ticket, cause like I said, it would be well worth it, I know I'm gonna get a great show that I will remember for a very long time, Metallica can tour anywhere and make a shit load of money

 

[bambam]

Ok, now I know they're working on a new album, but I'll honestly be surprised if it really does come out this year, after seeing all the delays and bullshit they went through with St. Anger, I won't beleive it until I actually see it, or at least hear a new single

As for them doing shows over sees "to warm up" they've been warming up for over two fucking years, how much more warming up do they need?!, I'm not saying they need to do fifty shows or even thirty shows, hell just hit the major cities, do like say fifteen shows, I'll gladly drive a day, day and a half to the nearest show, cause I know it will fully be worth it, as far as money is concerned I really don't think that's that big of an issue, they guys are huge, and people wouldn't think twice at dropping a large sum of cash to see them, personally I'd have no problem dropping $100-$150 for a ticket, cause like I said, it would be well worth it, I know I'm gonna get a great show that I will remember for a very long time, Metallica can tour anywhere and make a shit load of money

Yeah Money in Europe being more"Powerful" then US money Is important, But Metallica Would sell out arena after arena in the US no matter what. And like Justin said Even if they only hit the major cities, i would gladly drive the hour away from L.A. to go see them, AND I would gladly spend $100-150 a ticket to see them, and plus, the last time they played L.A., pit tickets were like $200 and they sold out in less then 15 min!

on a related note....Radiohead tour starts next month! Woot-Woot!

 

[RVDgurl]

Yeah Justin, I could cry. I have been praying for a Metallica tour for 2 years now. I'm growing impatient.

Although, they are playing with Down in Italy and I have given some serious thought to taking a trip for that one!!

 

[HellBoundPower]

I'm also pretty sick of Metallica now touring in the US. I missed out on the opportunity to see them in 2004 here in Minneapolis, and I regret it everyday. I want Metallica to hit Minneapolis up again, so I can finally see one of the most badass bands in the history of time perform their greatest hits.

 

[FoleyIsGod]

On the subject on America and Money, I saw an interesting news report on the BBC.

They were forecasting an American rescession in the future. So I doubt people can afford a ticket to a show when they cannot afford to pay the bills.

 

[justinsayne]

On the subject on America and Money, I saw an interesting news report on the BBC.

They were forecasting an American rescession in the future. So I doubt people can afford a ticket to a show when they cannot afford to pay the bills.

Please, you live in the UK and after one news report you make it sound like America is going to be a third world country by the end of the summer, things are that bad, the news always focuses on the most negative aspect of everything, if Metallica did a 15 show tour and charged $100-150 a ticket it would easily sell out... within minutes even

 

[FoleyIsGod]

Please, you live in the UK and after one news report you make it sound like America is going to be a third world country by the end of the summer, things are that bad, the news always focuses on the most negative aspect of everything, if Metallica did a 15 show tour and charged $100-150 a ticket it would easily sell out... within minutes even

It wasnt just one news report, its been like this for a while. Your housing market is in an aweful state, the same way the UKs is. Your economy is slowing down, hence why Bush is releasing a tax rebate so you spend more on the failing US economy. Face it, China basically buys all the food and building materials and in return, releases cheaper goods for the global market. Oil is at a sky high, and the last time I checked, America loves its petrol and fuel

I never said it by the end of the summer, but if things dont change, you are heading towards recession.

And I simply put this point across as you can make more money touring outside the US. Look at wrestling for an example. They made huge bucks over here, where in America, you dont get that sort of money.

Back to Metallica touring, im just happy they are playing my backyard, along with Slipknot, QOTSA, Tenascious D and Rage Against the Machine

 

[Kasey]

^You're very right. The climate for a musician to make money touring in this country is a joke. From the large all the way down to the small scale, it just isn't conducive to generating a profit. That's why most acts who know better hedge their bets and play nearly every other country instead. There's no sense in busting your ass for peanuts stateside when you can play to usually more receptive and full crowds for more money elsewhere. I know I would. Hell, my band had to cancel all plans for a summer tour to California because of the fuel and food hikes.

 

[twiztid_lestat]

Wanna know why? Because American fans are the most judgemental and unappreciative music fans in the world. And EVERY musician knows this.

St Anger sold better over there than here, More over than the US. And they do not critique the music as idiotically as the US does (mostly).

Overseas, they appreciate the time they spend on music and albums, They appreciate the art of music. Not just the heritage that a band has. They could go over there and do songs in nothing but Load, Reload and St anger songs, and they would STILL go nuts about them. They wouldnt bitch and moan about only wanting the old songs.

They appreciate the music and the artists. By the way, Im from Buffalo Ny, So I am not saying this as an international fan. Just someone who is real and honest.

 

["THE FIERCE ONE" MIKE W]

I think Saint Anger was One of their worst Albums. But that might just be me being an judgmental American.

I loved Metallica in he 80s they were amazing. Master Of Puppets may be my favorite album. They were the definition of power metal.

I thought they had some tour dates in America with Children of Bodum and In flames but I could be mistaken.

 

[MattMoses]

It's not like they haven't neglected other parts of the world from touring as well. After all, you have to remember they've been spending years on this new album and that they're more dedicated to their families than ever before, making the new album progress slower than it would have been say ten years ago. I'm sure they will tour North America once they embark on a new tour to support the release of their new album.

They were the definition of power metal.

First you say Curt Hennig had good drawing ability, and now you call Metallica power metal?

 

[justinsayne]

I think Saint Anger was One of their worst Albums. But that might just be me being an judgmental American.

The only thing wrong with St. Anger was that the drums sounded like shit, other than that it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, had Lars avoided doing his impression of Animal from the Muppets all over the thing alot of those songs would have sounded just as good as the rest of the shit they've released since the Black album

I loved Metallica in he 80s they were amazing. Master Of Puppets may be my favorite album. They were the definition of power metal.

*sigh* Thrash metal, they're thrash metal, not power metal

I thought they had some tour dates in America with Children of Bodum and In flames but I could be mistaken.

nope, you would be thinking of Megadeth, they're the ones touring with In Flames and Children of Bodum

 

["THE FIERCE ONE" MIKE W]

First you say Curt Hennig had good drawing ability

What does that comment have to do with this thread? you are doing nothing but adding flames to your weak argument

and now you call Metallica power metal?

Apparently you are unaware that "Early" Metallica was considered power metal. Thrash metal and power metal are very similar and in some peoples eyes the same, i think of power metal as a step above thrash which Metallica was. Look it up on Wikipedia under power metal and they give Metallica an Honorable mention.

Even some bands that are considered power metal say Metallica was an influence on them because they were a power metal(in their eyes, their more qualified eyes than either of ours) band.

And the Saint anger comment was IMO you don't have to agree with it but i like old school Metallica, not the new stuff.

 

[MattMoses]

What does that comment have to do with this thread?

Both are completely laughable, incorrect statements.

you are doing nothing but adding flames to your weak argument

Show me where these flames occur.

Apparently you are unaware that "Early" Metallica was considered power metal.

And what about "Early" Metallica is it that is considered "power metal"?

Thrash metal and power metal are very similar and in some peoples eyes

And what might those similarities be? Both consist of fast riffs? Guitar solos?

Next you'll be telling me Blind Guardian are Death Metal.

Look it up on Wikipedia under power metal and they give Metallica an Honorable mention.

Wikipedia? IT MUST BE TRUE!

Metallica had a demo named Power Metal, released in 1982. It bears nothing in resemblance to their style of music at the time or the genre of power metal, simply a title name for an early demo.

Even some bands that are considered power metal say Metallica was an influence on them because they were a power metal(in their eyes, their more qualified eyes than either of ours) band.

Well, if power metal bands were influenced by Metallica, then Metallica must be power metal!

 

[HellBoundPower]

I just read that Metallica will be touring with Down in Europe, and now I HATE Europeans. Two of my favorite bands touring together, and I don't get to see it because it's not in the states. THIS IS HORRIBLE! I would love to see Phil Anselmo and James Hetfield do something together on stage. Too bad it's not in the US. Fucking Europeans! lol

 

[MattMoses]

Forget blood, idiocy must flow through your veins.

*Yawn*

I enjoy the fact that you are up my ass 24/7 with these stupid comebacks

Yeah, they must be stupid comebacks if you can't even make a comeback yourself, the best you've got is reeling off a few band names. Way to go.

Compare early Metallica to COB, Dragonforce, and other power metal bands, their style is very similar.

You keep banging on about how similar Metallica is to power metal, yet the best you've got is naming off a few incredibly lame bands. Aside from the fact they play metal, use guitars, have a vocalist, a bass guitar and a drummer, what similarities are there between Metallica and Dragonforce?

The flames occured when you brought an unrelated statement into a thread it had nothing to do with.

Clearly you don't understand the term.

 

[twiztid_lestat]

''No Life 'Til Power bootleg
A bootleg featuring the same cover art as Power Metal was released in the mid 1980s. This bootleg featured the entire No Life 'Til Leather track listing on side A, and the entire Power Metal track listing on side B''

Okay, well clearly fierce5 who said Wikipedia, 1 is a credible source and 2 said that Metallica was power metal. Either:

a)Knows NOTHING of metallica and never heard a single song

b)Doesnt realize Wikipedia can be edited by ANYONE with a keyboard

C) If he even read the SAME source you so highly totes as fact, The DEMOS title is Power metal, Not the genre. Reading is fundamental, and obviously not for Fierce5

Aparently YOU are not aware that early metallica is regarded as speed or thrash metal. Look it up, from a REAL source. Argument closed.

Mattmorgan, Now. Like you, I know how it feels to be right!!

 

[gorsty2k7]

Wanna know why? Because American fans are the most judgemental and unappreciative music fans in the world. And EVERY musician knows this.

St Anger sold better over there than here, More over than the US. And they do not critique the music as idiotically as the US does (mostly).

Overseas, they appreciate the time they spend on music and albums, They appreciate the art of music. Not just the heritage that a band has. They could go over there and do songs in nothing but Load, Reload and St anger songs, and they would STILL go nuts about them. They wouldnt bitch and moan about only wanting the old songs.

They appreciate the music and the artists. By the way, Im from Buffalo Ny, So I am not saying this as an international fan. Just someone who is real and honest.

South Park explained that a third of the world hates America, not just Metallica. That being said, I've noticed that Americans do tend to be a lot more judgemental and bitchy about stuff they get a lot of. Its the same in everything, wrestling (this being a wrestling forum this is also relevant) has seen people tuning out and stop attending live shows, whereas other countries it continues to be as popular as ever and live events sell well. Just like I'm sure a lot of concerts in the US don't do as well as they perhaps used to.