I'm new to the site, so I don't know I just got unlucky in my selection of threads or whatever it is. I went down the list of what people said, and for the most part it seems like people are missing huge points.
Rey Mysterio - He's not overrated, it's just that in WWE every single Cruiserweight is underrated. They took away the title to make a....Divas Championship? Cruiserweights were all paired together and entered the tag team division. WWE is also 100% politics, and moves are "outlawed". Paul London was fined for doing a Shooting Star Press at a house show, but then WWE lifted the ban of the move for Bourne. Bourne got over because fans love the excitement and pace of Cruiserweights, but Vince prefers the big guys. Rey should not have won the title, and I agree it was a way for Vince to capitalize off of Eddie's death, but at this point in WWE there's know other option for Cruiserweights...except TNA.
Priceless/Kozlov/Khali - They're new, OF COURSE, they're going to be pushed. Why have new people come if you're going to just push them off to the side? Cody Rhodes, I'll agree with. I remember watching him talk when he and his brother were inducting Dusty, and it pained me. It still pains me watching him speak. It's almost as bad as his actual wrestling. Again, 100% politics. Put him in a group of guys who are actually talented and maybe that'll trick people into thinking he's good. And it has. Kozlov is just taking the same route Umaga took, the destructive, undefeated force, yet Umaga was mentioned as underrated. The big difference is obviously Umaga can move, and watching him run around is impressive, but that was just as much Rikishi as Kozlov was every single anti-American Russian wrestler from the 80s. I think the biggest problem with Kozlov isn't his actual style, but the fact that no one cares about Russians anymore. What WWE should've done was keep Muhammad Hassan and Daivari, regardless of terrorist acts, and you'd have the best heel in years. As for Khali, I never know what anyone expects. Sometimes I don't know how far back people go in watching wrestling, but watch an Andre the Giant match. The most exciting thing he does is fall into the ropes/get bodyslammed.
JBL is in the same boat as Kevin Nash. I also noticed TNA guys were left out of this, but I'll save that for the TNA thread haha. They're old, out of shape, and broken, but they know the business, and at the end of the day that's all it is. JBL has a great gimmick, one mildly original, and he's a great talker. His wrestling got stale but what do you expect? He was sitting behind an announce table for years.
Eddie Guerrero - I agree 100%. He and Benoit were both owed it, but neither could actually carry the company, like John Cena and HHH (who probably is overrated as well). Rey at least sold merchandise, these guys were just familiar faces that reminded everyone of the good old days.
I'm going to use Rob Van Dam as the segway because that blew my mind. I've never seen one person have a more original moveset. The finisher is cliche, but the finisher he wanted to use wasn't "good enough" for WWE, and they told him that because of his leg strength, they expected a move where he can go as high as he can (One of a Kind DVD). That's where he got the frog splash. The move he wanted was a Split Moonsault off the top which was pretty great. But I digress. Cruiserweights don't need mic skills. Their actions speak for them. Have you heard Rey talk? Chavo? They're probably confused on why they have to talk. I just finished the Starrcade DVD, and there's a match between Rey and Jushin Liger, when Rey was just a lad, and it's a great match. WCW/TNA wa/is a much better fit for ALL Cruiserweights, and that would include Eddie Guerrero. If Rob Van Dam went to TNA, where they don't have all the rules against moves, he, if he's not feeling the effects of age/pot, would blow the audience away.
Big Daddy V - I love this guy. I always loved him, except for the World's Biggest Sex Machine (WWE LOVES having huge black men be sexual...V, Mark Henry as Sexual Chocolate, the Godfather and his Ho Train). His ECW gimmick was incredible, and I didn't mind seeing the entire solar system on his chest. Personally, he should've been getting pushed over Khali, but Khali has international success (which is insane) that Vince can't ignore. India has over a billion people, and Khali is revered as a god there (not Kali, although Kali is also actually a god there), they're not going to throw him away. Like Eddie and Benoit, Viscera had a title run owed to him. A real title run, not an ECW one. He won King of the Ring for god's sake! Their way of repaying him was by cutting him. At least Matt Striker got success out of it.
Umaga - Rikishi without all the weird stuff involving his glutes. That entire family blows my mind. If you wanna see something else crazy, look up Three Minute Warning from the Attitude Era. It's Umaga as Jamal, and Rosey (Gregory Helm's partner when he was the Hurricane). I do like Umaga, but I think he's past the point of having a main title. Guys like that die out after their first loss unfortunately. The feud between him and Lashley was very good though.
Jimmy Wang Yang - Cruiserweight spiel. He's also an Asian cowboy. If that was his idea, then I hope he remains useless, because he earned it.
John Morrison - Underrated? What do you want from the guy? He's a multiple tag team champion and IC champion, and they won some Slammys. So they didn't use him like they used CM Punk? That was because he was already involved in something that was working. I actually think switching his name to Morrison will be the one thing that keeps him down. Johnny Nitro was an exciting name. John Morrison just sounds (and is) like a serious version of everything Charlie Haas (underrated) has been doing with his time. Hopefully he'll lead the company one day, but for now, he doesn't sell merchandise, and he doesn't have the pure mass that Vince likes.
Kennedy - He's been injured constantly. They try to push him and he gets hurt. He can't be underrated because he's yet to actually do anything worth rating.
Kane - Kane has bad knees, which is the only reason he's stuck where he is. If I remember correctly, HE'S the one who is keeping himself there because he understood that from a business perspective, he can't deliver like a champion should in the ring. Kane's getting up there in years, and jumping off the top rope every match when you're close to 300 pounds isn't good for your bones. I like where he is now on Raw, as just some crazy guy, but I would actually like him back in ECW (keeping in mind of course that WWE starts caring about ECW).
Paul Burchill - He was a pirate.
FINALLY, Shelton Benjamin. I don't have the slightest clue why he's still with WWE. I doubt they're paying him much, he sure as hell isn't getting pushes (his reign as US champion just took credibility away from the title, not do what it's supposed to and raise shelton's). The problem is that when he wins, it isn't clean, and the rest of the time is just him losing. WWE has a problem with making all titles meaningless, only focusing on the WWE and WHC, and that hurts whoever is champion (William Regal?).
After commenting on the past picks, here's what I think, out of current ones because the "ever" list could go on forever.
Over-rated/Too Much Air Time/Trying to Hard:
Samoa Joe
Cody Rhodes
Matt Hardy
Under-rated:
Every Cruiserweight in every company.
Shelton Benjamin/Charlie Haas
William Regal
JBL
Kozlov
Matt Morgan
LAX
Move On With Your Lives:
Sting.
I loved Sting, and grew up with him being my hero, but he brings nothing but his legacy to TNA. At least Nash and Steiner can be enjoyable to listen to. But at this point, Sting just bothers me, on the mic and in the ring.
