Who would not have been Champion?

James Greiga

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Let's all assume that the Brand Extension never happened and there never became two top titles. Which wrestlers do you think would not have been World champion? Here's my list

Booker T
Rey Mysterio
JBL
Christian
Rob Van Dam
Mark Henry
Eddie Guerrero
Miz
Jack Swagger
Dolph Ziggler

If there were only one title then that means there would have been a different number of main eventers so in that sense I don't think Daniel bryan and Cm Punk would have made it either. WWE would have held them down just like they held down Jericho and Edge in the Attitude Era

To be honest, and this is coming from a huge fan, but I don't think Edge would have been champion either. As much as I love the guy I thing his entire main event career was a fluke. I am saying that in the sense that WWE didn't expect much from him. They just took a chance and he went beyond expectations. If there was one title he would have fell into the same category as Daniel Bryan and Cm Punk because there would already be HHH, John Cena, Big Show, Kane, Randy Orton, Undertaker, Batista, and Umaga (who I think if he hadn't gotten suspended so many times or his sudden death then he would have eventually become champion). If you fast forward to the PG era you could replace Batista and Umaga with Shaemus and Del Rio because Vince loves Del Rio so much he would have been champion regardless. Chris Jericho may have gotten the title upon his return in 2007 but I think he would have played the same role HBK did in his 2000's career by being a main eventer but never holding the title upon his return.
 
Pretty good list but I will go one better - how about no one who won it. It was used for those who Vince didn't want to make WWE Champ so if they only had one title, I think pretty much everyone who won it wouldn't have but we would see a lot of guys with IC/US Title runs. Hate to say it but I don't know if Edge would have even been given a chance. With all the guys in the WWE Title picture, I don't see them pulling an extra guy into the scene.
 
To be honest I doubt cena would have been given the title too. Evolution would have been the 1 story line and batista would have won. Meaning cena would not have defeated jbl because he wouldn't be wwe champion. So no brand extension=no super cena
 
I would have to agree with most of those names, mainly The Miz, Rey Mysterio and Ziggler. I disagree with Booker T, Rob Van Dam and Eddie Guerrero. I think between 2002-2004 would've been an appropriate time to insert each in the main event title picture. Watch old clips from 2001-2002 Rob Van Dam was OVER with the audience, similar to the popularity Daniel Bryan has with the WWE Universe today. Another name I would like to add to the list for obvious reasons, The Great Khali. I feel like he would have not been World Heavyweight Champion if the brand extension had never happened.
 
Pretty good list but I will go one better - how about no one who won it. It was used for those who Vince didn't want to make WWE Champ so if they only had one title, I think pretty much everyone who won it wouldn't have but we would see a lot of guys with IC/US Title runs. Hate to say it but I don't know if Edge would have even been given a chance. With all the guys in the WWE Title picture, I don't see them pulling an extra guy into the scene.


I meant WWE and WHC not just world heavyweight champion. If thats the case then explain Miz and JBL?

To be honest I doubt cena would have been given the title too. Evolution would have been the 1 story line and batista would have won. Meaning cena would not have defeated jbl because he wouldn't be wwe champion. So no brand extension=no super cena

That's actually VERY untrue. In 2002, Linda McMahon and Vince said that in the future the two faces of the company will be John Cena and randy Orton. This was before Evolution and during Lesnar's reign so they were already looking to replace him. Batista was only added because HHH heavily vouched for him to Vince.
 
If the Brand Extension never took place and there never became two top Titles, the WWE Championship Title and the World Championship Title, the reigns that I think would have never taken place are all of the WWE / World Championship Title reigns on Smackdown. Here’s a list of reigns I don’t think would have taken place, had the Undisputed WWE World Championship Title remained Undisputed.

WWE Championship Title reigns from November 2002 – April 2005
Big Show’s 2nd
Kurt Angle’s 3rd
Brock Lesnar’s 2nd
Kurt Angle’s 4th
Brock Lesnar’s 3rd
Eddie Guerrero’s 1st
John “Bradshaw” Layfield’s 1st
John Cena’s 1st

World Championship Title reigns from January 2006 – June 2008
Kurt Angle’s 1st
Rey Mysterio’s 1st
King Booker’s 1st
Batista’s 2nd
The Undertaker’s 1st
Edge’s 1st
The Great Khali’s 1st
Batista’s 3rd
Edge’s 2nd
The Undertaker’s 2nd
Edge’s 3rd
CM Punk’s 1st

WWE Championship Title reigns from November 2008 – February 2009
Edge’s 3rd
Jeff Hardy’s 1st
Edge’s 4th
Triple H’s 8th

World Championship Title reigns from April 2009 – December 2013
Edge’s 5th
Jeff Hardy’s 1st
CM Punk’s 2nd
Jeff Hardy’s 2nd
CM Punk’s 3rd
The Undertaker’s 3rd
Chris Jericho’s 3rd
Jack Swagger’s 1st
Rey Mysterio’s 2nd
Kane’s 1st
Edge’s 6th
Dolph Ziggler’s 1st
Edge’s 7th
Christian’s 1st
Randy Orton’s 3rd
Mark Henry’s 1st
Big Show’s 1st
Daniel Bryan’s 1st
Sheamus’ 1st
Big Show’s 2nd
Alberto Del Rio’s 1st
Dolph Ziggler’s 2nd
Alberto Del Rio’s 2nd
John Cena’s 3rd
Randy Orton’s 4th

Sorry if I may have missed any. I believe none of the reigns listed above would have taken place. Some of these reigns could have become Intercontinental Championship Title reigns, but that’s for another topic at another time.
 

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