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Who will be the guy to dethrone THE Guy?

Which scenario would you rather have?

  • Seth Rollins (Title Unification Match)

  • Dean Ambrose (Shield Triple Threat)

  • AJ Styles (They don't want none) #ExtremeRules

  • Bray Wyatt (Face vs. Face)

  • John Cena (To be THE Guy,You gotta beat THE Guy) (Heel Turn)

  • Brock Lesnar (The Beast vs. The Guy)

  • Finn Bálor (Bálor Club)

  • Cesaro

  • Kevin Owens

  • Other


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Roman Reigns defeated Triple H at WrestleMania 32 to become THE Guy in WWE. Now there is already discussion on who should dethrone him for the title and speculation on when that might happen. Do they go with the Champion vs. Champion Unification story with Seth coming back with the belt he never lost and beating him for the title?,does Brock conquer' THE Guy'?,Does AJ Styles def. Roman at Extreme Rules?,will it be someone who isn't even on the roster yet?,or will it be a "To be THE Guy,You gotta beat THE Guy" storyline with the dream match of Cena vs. Reigns with Cena winning?

Right now I'm actually enjoying his title reign. I might be in the minority but it's been pretty good so far. He is in a great storyline,producing great matches,his Mic work has been pretty decent. He has gotten where he needs to be FINALLY. Major Reigns haters will disagree but if you're an unbiased wrestling fan like myself you will see that. Just my opinion. But who do you think it will be? And who do you think it should be?

I think at WrestleMania 33 it should be Cena vs. Reigns for the belt in the "heel turn heard around the world." Cena turning heel on Reigns to win #16 by cheating. This cements Reigns as the Face of WWE for sure. Maybe even have Cena put the strap on the line the next night on Raw and have somebody like Sami Zayn challenge him. Have Cena beat that person by cheating and then immediately after have Reigns come to the ring and beat the holy hell out of him and leaving him lying. Have whoever is Mr. MITB come out and cash in and Reigns let's him as symbolism as "you screw me,I'll screw you." Cena would be injured to Summerslam or WrestleMania 34 where it will be Cena vs. Reigns II
 
Roman Reigns defeated Triple H at WrestleMania 32 to become THE Guy in WWE. Now there is already discussion on who should dethrone him for the title and speculation on when that might happen. Do they go with the Champion vs. Champion Unification story with Seth coming back with the belt he never lost and beating him for the title?,does Brock conquer' THE Guy'?,Does AJ Styles def. Roman at Extreme Rules?,will it be someone who isn't even on the roster yet?,or will it be a "To be THE Guy,You gotta beat THE Guy" storyline with the dream match of Cena vs. Reigns with Cena winning?

Right now I'm actually enjoying his title reign. I might be in the minority but it's been pretty good so far. He is in a great storyline,producing great matches,his Mic work has been pretty decent. He has gotten where he needs to be FINALLY. Major Reigns haters will disagree but if you're an unbiased wrestling fan like myself you will see that. Just my opinion. But who do you think it will be? And who do you think it should be?

I think at WrestleMania 33 it should be Cena vs. Reigns for the belt in the "heel turn heard around the world." Cena turning heel on Reigns to win #16 by cheating. This cements Reigns as the Face of WWE for sure. Maybe even have Cena put the strap on the line the next night on Raw and have somebody like Sami Zayn challenge him. Have Cena beat that person by cheating and then immediately after have Reigns come to the ring and beat the holy hell out of him and leaving him lying. Have whoever is Mr. MITB come out and cash in and Reigns let's him as symbolism as "you screw me,I'll screw you." Cena would be injured to Summerslam or WrestleMania 34 where it will be Cena vs. Reigns II

Just how many Wrestlemania's do you expect Roman Reigns to main event here. He's main evented the last two and you have him booked to main event the next two. There are other's on the roster you know.

I didn't pick anyone yet will later on. Will have to wait until Rollins and the others to come back and see what happens with storylines and such. Don't think they will give Lesnar back the strap, unless the want it to disappear from TV for awhile, like what happened before. I haven't seen the guy since Mania. Also with Rollins, Cena, Orton and Wyatt, hopefully we will see a change up in the top tier. RAW ratings are in the basement right now with Reigns as champ. They need to pull something out of the bag to get people to watch.

EDIT: I picked Bray Wyatt. When he and Harper return they can do a Family VS Family match with the Wyatt's coming out on top. Let's see if the WWE has the balls to finally put Wyatt into the main event and give him a shot at it.

EDIT 2: I'm not a Roman hater and I don't like it when just because someone doesn't happen to be a fan they are labeled as such. I've tried to remain as unbiased as the OP but have become indifferent towards him. I don't hate the guy, I don't know him personally. What I do know is I don't like his character, his delivery on the mic and the WWE reluctance to change him. The OP shouldn't be acting like anyone who isn't fond of him has to be labeled and is somehow unworthy of having an opinion.
 
Kevin Owens, MITB cash in at Survivor Series. Roman is in a traditional survivor series match and overcomes a 3-1 odds situation. K.O cashes in, new champion.

I can definitely see this happening as it just seems like such a natural fit for where WWE seems to be going with Owens and it's also a situation where Vince could have Reigns booked to look superhuman. A lot of fans will be sorta gagging on their own bile if he were to overcome a big numbers disadvantage, so a successful MITB cash in from someone like Owens would end the night on a high note for those fans. I don't look for Owens to win the IC title at Extreme Rules, he's been champ twice, so the notion of him becoming Mr. MITB just seems like a very logical progression for him. By the time Survivor Series comes around, Reigns will have been champion for over 220 days, he could participate in a traditional Survivor Series match in which he's the lone survivor, is exhausted by the time it's over, Kevin Owens' music hits and the rest is history.
 
EDIT: I picked Bray Wyatt. When he and Harper return they can do a Family VS Family match with the Wyatt's coming out on top. Let's see if the WWE has the balls to finally put Wyatt into the main event and give him a shot at it.
No Cesaro? :suspic:

To OP : Expecting a John Cena heel turn is unrealistic enough that Vince would never let it happen.

I don't know who will defeat Reigns to become the new Champ but I sure have my own multiple choices for it.

3 Guys in the poll whom I would love them to win : Dean Ambrose, Bray Wyatt and Cesaro.

But it will never happen.

My most favorite wrestler is Cesaro so I would want him to win the WWE World Title but I don't think that it would happen.

Second choice is what I voted for and that is Bray Wyatt. Like Navi said that WWE could do a Family Vs. Family feud with Reigns and Wyatt. But I don't trust WWE's booking of Bray Wyatt.

Third choice is Dean Ambrose which too wouldn't happen.

If WWE is high enough on Seth Rollins, then it can surely happen. Brock won't defeat Reigns because he is instead destined to lose to Reigns. Balor would be too soon. Kevin Owens can be a good choice via MITB or even regular match.
 
i think the one to dethrone THE guy is going to be the one who wins the Money in the Bank Briefcase (unless of course a face wins the case). now if a face wins the briefcase and cashes in the face way, then i think Roman will win.

with that said, i expect one of three things to happen...either Ambrose turns heel on Roman and wins with the case like many others before him have. two/three (and these two are what i THINK happens) Finn Balor (who with help of The Balor Club) or Kevin Owens wins the briefcase and cashes in and as of right now, i'll go with Kevin Owens winning the Money in the Bank because it makes the most sense. Kevin Owens is a great talker and he's got great in ring skills. His gimmick is that he's a prize fighter, so when he wins the briefcase, he can claim that he's a prize fighter with a future prize. i think whoever wins the briefcase will cash in around Survivor Series or at the ppv.
 
No Cesaro? :suspic:


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I would love to see Cesaro with the title, God knows he can go in the ring, but right now he is chasing a mid card title. He has gotten over despite what Vince said about him and he might hover around the main event. I doubt they will put the title on him though not after spending this much time on Reigns. Shame because he has more charisma, mic and ring skills. Think that's the biggest reason so many are against Reigns now. There are so many better wrestlers on the roster and they won't be given a chance.
 
I went with Rollins. Why? Because I truly believe that he is THE guy. Think about what Seth accomplished last year. Closed WM30 as the WWE Champion. Defeated John Cena to win the US Championship while still being WWE Champion. Feuded with, and ended the career of, Sting. The only thing that stopped Seth was his his leg. Sure, Roman was rumored to take the title off of Seth before he went down. But that didnt happen.

When Seth returns he WILL get a massive pop. He WILL instantly become the top face in the company and he WILL be the one to take the title off of Roman.

Quick sidebar. All of this "THE GUY" nonsense is kind of bullshit considering everyone knows John Cena remains the top draw and number 1 guy in the business today. When he comes back I have no doubt he'll feud with Roman at some point and mention this fact. As a very wrinkly old perv once said "To be the man, you've got to beat the man"
 
I'll take anything here to be completely honest except maybe Lesnar. I want to see Cesaro, Bray, or Owens hold it, but they are nothing in comparison to "The Guy" apparently. I'm not glad Seth was injured, but I am glad his title remained in tact. At this point I just want him gone so I can watch Styles again without seeing him.

I'm really down to support a Cesaro or Bray Title run full force though. Cesaro has survived a lot of curve balls thrown at him, and at this point I just feel bad for the entire Wyatt Family. After seeing some of the matches Cesaro is capable of and the amount of people who can get behind him..I'll remain firm on him.
 
They've been teasing Bray Wyatt fairly hard this year when it comes to the title. First when Triple H held it, then again when he was tagging with Reigns before his injury. Will this latest injury halt that push they were seeding?

The other dangling thread is obviously Rollins' status as a man who never lost his belt. He has a claim and undoubtedly meets the champion not long after return.

Cena is about to enter year two since he held the world title this summer. If I'm not mistaken this either is or will shortly be his longest world title drought since Punk's title run. This will be the record tying 16th run, so it will certainly not be a short one.

They've been careful to keep Lesnar in the title picture despite sporadic appearances. He failed to earn a title shot earlier this year and Heyman was careful to mention it in promos going in to WrestleMania.

I'd say these four and AJ Styles are your main five guys to consider. I don't believe WWE considers either Cesaro or KO to be ready quite yet. I think they will continue to feud over the IC belt this summer.

I doubt they want to follow a long Reigns run with another long run, so we can safely eliminate Cena until year's end or early 2017. Lesnar as the part time guy is far better suited for a Rumble to Mania title run or Survivor Series to Rumble run, so I think it's safe to eliminate him as well.

That leaves Bray, Rollins, and AJ. You obviously have to question their confidence in Bray Wyatt as he has routinely been injured in his very young career. Rollins was the guy before Reigns, and it makes sense that they would continue to verify him as a top guy by having him recapture.

I have no doubts AJ will be a world champion in WWE. He's just too good, too marketable, and too exciting to not crown. They've pushed him as a top guy, effectively giving him a better push than anyone who came from main event in another company to WWE (looking at you every WCW guy ever). AJ winning at Extreme Rules means a TNA guy derails WWE's golden boy. I don't see it going that way.

My pick is babyface Rollins. I think it's a safe pick, but it has a lot of logic and sets up further drama in the lives of the former Shield guys. The eventual Shield triple threat sounds like a big money match to me, and unfortunately for his detractors, one that Reigns wins.

I want Wyatt to win, if only because it's fresh. Wyatt as champion creates fresh match ups. Wyatt hasn't feuded with Rollins (one on one) or Styles. Wyatt as face and Roman as adult male heel/kids face is different than there previous meetings. Again, I fear confidence in him may be lost.

I didn't even mention Ambrose. I think that in of itself is telling. What about Jericho? The length of his run and his lack of a need for titles answer that. I'm not even going to mention Balor.
 
Roman will hold the belt at least until Summerslam. I think this is where Seth Rollins could recapture his title as a face. I say the rematch is delayed because Roman feuds with Dean Ambrose who cost him the match... Rollins can have a program with Aj Styles maybe. At Survivor Series we get Shield triple threat and Roman Reigns win it back.

That sounds good to me. I don't see Cena in title picture until he faces Reigns at the next mania. He can have is 16th run after that. Also I see a huge rivalry between Cena and Aj Styles in 2017 that could be for the title and the Phenomenal One can finally win it there.

I feel sorry for guys like Ambrose and Cesaro because if they do win it one day, it would be very short term in my opinion... Owens, it's just a matter of time! They are using him perfectly right now.
 
Having Brock Lesnar take the title from Reigns would protect The Guy from looking weak against his challenger. Losing to Brock is reasonable since he ended the streak. Brock should lose the title in a match to someone unexpected like Samoa Joe or Finn Balor.
 
AJ is even smaller in size than jerico. I doubt he ever wins the belt.
KO is looking good right now. He could be 'the guy' but not till after next mania. If Roman drops the belt before that it'll be to Rollins.
 
Even though I love AJ, I really like the idea a lot of cena heel saying "to be the man woooow you gotta beat the man!!


But I would say it'll be KO or seth
 
At Mania 31, the stage was setup for a huge Brock vs Roman ll clash to happen down the line.

Given Cena will be back soon, I think Face John Cena needs to defeat Tweener Roman Reigns in their first match as well(SummerSlam 2016 for the WWE WHC)which would help setup an even bigger rematch so that when Roman does beat "the Champ", it can be done in an organic fashion and not be forced as the Roman-HHH feud ended up being.
 
Cena, Summerslam 2016. Cant see it would be Rollins so soon after so serious injury and cant see Brock to do it because we dont need another era of Brock Lesnar as Champion where he wouldnt make an appearances aside of PPV. Cena takes it by Summerslam to get Flair record, then Owens or some other heel cash in MiTB after that and then at next Mania it's Cena- Reigns where Reigns wins. If they are serious about him as no1 next big thing they would probably do it like that.
 
Roman Reigns defeated Triple H at WrestleMania 32 to become THE Guy in WWE. Now there is already discussion on who should dethrone him for the title and speculation on when that might happen. Do they go with the Champion vs. Champion Unification story with Seth coming back with the belt he never lost and beating him for the title?,does Brock conquer' THE Guy'?,Does AJ Styles def. Roman at Extreme Rules?,will it be someone who isn't even on the roster yet?,or will it be a "To be THE Guy,You gotta beat THE Guy" storyline with the dream match of Cena vs. Reigns with Cena winning?

Right now I'm actually enjoying his title reign. I might be in the minority but it's been pretty good so far. He is in a great storyline,producing great matches,his Mic work has been pretty decent. He has gotten where he needs to be FINALLY. Major Reigns haters will disagree but if you're an unbiased wrestling fan like myself you will see that. Just my opinion. But who do you think it will be? And who do you think it should be?

I think at WrestleMania 33 it should be Cena vs. Reigns for the belt in the "heel turn heard around the world." Cena turning heel on Reigns to win #16 by cheating. This cements Reigns as the Face of WWE for sure. Maybe even have Cena put the strap on the line the next night on Raw and have somebody like Sami Zayn challenge him. Have Cena beat that person by cheating and then immediately after have Reigns come to the ring and beat the holy hell out of him and leaving him lying. Have whoever is Mr. MITB come out and cash in and Reigns let's him as symbolism as "you screw me,I'll screw you." Cena would be injured to Summerslam or WrestleMania 34 where it will be Cena vs. Reigns II

I think Cena will beat him for the title at Summerslam. Cena would tie Flair. Reigns and Cena feuds for the next couple of months (Summerslam, NoC, HIAC), Reigns wins the title back.
 
Reigns is so protected, I don't see anyone besides Cena, Lesnar or Rock being allowed to go over. My hope is for either Owens or Rollins though.
 
I was told by a really good source, a guy I'm friends with (Eddie Guerrero's nephew) , that its a GUARANTEE that soon after John Cena returns he is turning heel. He didn't mention anything about the belt but did guarantee it would happen. And no, he's never been wrong yet.
 
Reigns is so protected, I don't see anyone besides Cena, Lesnar or Rock being allowed to go over. My hope is for either Owens or Rollins though.
True. I think that the end of Brock's dominant stint in WWE would be at the hands of Roman Reigns. I can't see anyone else booked so strong to go over Brock except Reigns. Rollins was just dismantled by Brock.

I was told by a really good source, a guy I'm friends with (Eddie Guerrero's nephew) , that its a GUARANTEE that soon after John Cena returns he is turning heel. He didn't mention anything about the belt but did guarantee it would happen. And no, he's never been wrong yet.
If it is really gonna happen, then it is a freakin' great news. John Cena can exhibit so much as a heel that can never be done as a face. And if he is gonna turn heel, it is surely gonna be for the title. Why would Vince waste such a great moment by doing it without the ultimate title?

But still I think that Vince won't let Cena turn heel ever. Maybe Triple H could let Cena turn heel but Vince won't take such a big risk with the face of WWE who has been there at the top since a decade.
 
I was told by a really good source, a guy I'm friends with (Eddie Guerrero's nephew) , that its a GUARANTEE that soon after John Cena returns he is turning heel. He didn't mention anything about the belt but did guarantee it would happen. And no, he's never been wrong yet.

This isn't the first time you've brought up the fact that you are friends with Geurrero's nephew. And yes before you ask he has been wrong in the past as you can see by what I found after about 3 minutes of looking.

He said Jeff Hardy would be back in the WWE but Matt Hardy wouldn't. Jeff just resigned with TNA so he was wrong about that, as you can see below.

Every prowrestling sight was reporting the same story. Apparently this guy and is making a to inside.. But Jeff Hardly going to do evil. He told the reporter that he didn't want..all the good . from what I read it sounded like wwe wasn't offering matt a legends. And too be out of control. It was also noted that he will be back in WWE by mid way through 2016!!

Na my first language is yoda-ism. Lol.. If you wanna be a smart ass your more than welcome to scream. Lol..

1) That's exactly what I was saying!! My four sources are John Canton.john is a freelance writer for "The Richest" and editor in Chief at. Www.TJRwrestling.com

Also "The Real Wrestling Community", also Rob Trotter, and a good friend of mine that is Eddie Guerrero s nephew, Jay M. Cantrell

So yea these are very good sources and don't screw around. Jeff Hardy gave the interview his self.

Also what happened at Wrestlemania, you know the fact that Angle, Hogan, Mysterio would be there. Also all the NXT call ups Balor and Bayley which never came to pass either. Again the predictions are below and you got them from the nephew.

I don't think wwe is gonna hide any surprises or wait till the last month before mania to announce anything. I think they are running like a chicken with their head cut off right now. With Rollins, Orton, Bryan, Cesaro, and Sting out for sure and Rock 90% out and Rousy I'll say 50% out then wwe is without direction right now. Not their fault, injuries are part of the game. So I'm guessing the faster they can secure a big name and the sooner they concrete a match then we will know. I know its a long wayvoff but with sales down we will know asap. Obviously Takers last match. Plus they needcto sell 100,000 tickets.

Now this is just my theory BUT I had think there will be a major roster shakeup before mania. I think
Finn Baylor will be called up
Joe will be called up
Bayley will be called up
Kurt Angle will be signed (he's currently retired from TNA + HOF)
Rey Mysterio will be signed (he's said he'd like too)
Steve Austin will guest referee
Both Hardy Boys will sign a temp contract (both have said they'd like that ÷ HOF)
Wait and see, out of nowhere Hogan will be forgiven and be there.

I'm really good friends with Eddie Guerrero's nephew and have it on 99% likely to happen that Angle, Mysterio, and Hogan WILL be there. And he said there's a very good possibility the announce team will be JBL, Lawler, and Jim Ross. These aren't fanboy rumors or not 100% confirmed either but very close.

So one of two things are happening here. Either he hears a little bit of news, spins it out of control and you believe every word. Or the guy just plain doesn't know what he's talking about. Almost everything he's said has been wrong, but you post it here like it's gospel. Until something actually happens in front of my eyes, I'll take his reports like I do with the rest of the dirt sheets, with a grain of salt.
 
I was told by a really good pretend source, a guy I looked up on the internet (Eddie Guerrero's nephew) , that its a GUARANTEE that soon after John Cena returns he is turning heel. He didn't mention anything about the belt but did guarantee it would happen. And yes, he's been wrong 90% of the time.

I fixed that for you to make it more realistic. My source told me to. (and yes, it's Rybacks third cousin Charlie who told me to fix it)
 
I can only see it being Cena. It'll give him his 16th reign, which is inevitable.

I'd have Cena win at SummerSlam. Reigns attacks him afterwards, turning heel, allowing Mr MITB to cash in (probably Owens).

It doesn't make Reigns look weak as he's lost to the top guy in WWE. Doesn't make Cena look weak as he's lost after a beat down and a cash-in.

Then have a triple threat match that Owens wins cheaply. Both men have had a re-match and can go on to feud with each other. Owens can then feud with Cesaro, Rollins and AJ for the rest of the year.

I'd like to see a long Cena/Reigns feud and to be honest it doesn't really need the WWE to sell it. Can be the whole passing the torch thing.

Have Reigns and Cena ever had a 1v1 match?
 
I can definitely see this happening as it just seems like such a natural fit for where WWE seems to be going with Owens and it's also a situation where Vince could have Reigns booked to look superhuman. A lot of fans will be sorta gagging on their own bile if he were to overcome a big numbers disadvantage, so a successful MITB cash in from someone like Owens would end the night on a high note for those fans. I don't look for Owens to win the IC title at Extreme Rules, he's been champ twice, so the notion of him becoming Mr. MITB just seems like a very logical progression for him. By the time Survivor Series comes around, Reigns will have been champion for over 220 days, he could participate in a traditional Survivor Series match in which he's the lone survivor, is exhausted by the time it's over, Kevin Owens' music hits and the rest is history.

My concern with this scenario is the likely possibility that KO would just be playing the 2015/2016 role of Sheamus. Big cash in simply used to occupy Reigns time until WM season. KO takes the title at Survivor Series and drops it back to Reigns by the time the Rumble event closes. From there KO is bumped hard back down the card.
 
I think it will be a face turned Seth Rollins, but not right away he first has to feud with HHH. Roman will keep the title at Extreme rules it is to soon for A.J. to be champ. Seth has his rematch owed to him plus I can see Seth winning MITB or Royal Rumble setting up a match at WM33 if that is what they want to do. Dean can win MITB or Royal Rumble which ever one that Seth does not win, that sets up the triple threat match that everyone wants to see at WM33. Until than they can turn Roman heel and let him win or lose title matches against John, Bray, Randy or Cesaro as long as Roman has the title when WM33 comes along.
 

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