Who should TNA bring "Back" for the TNA Originals? - good thread

[Marty2Hotty]

WE like talking about MEM swerves.. There is talk that Daniels and Low Ki will return..

but who else can return for the TNA originals who can "one up" MEM.. i mean, we have a goofy lot of x division guys backing up AJ and Joe.. that's it...

How about Sonny Siaki, Prime Time, Monty Brown, Jerry Lynn, Kid Kash, Brian Lawler?, Chris Harris, Goldy Locks (feuding with Sharmell), D'Lo Brown (kinda), Mike Sanders, Trinity (feuding with Sharmell), Kaz, Simon Diamond/Johnny Swinger/Gilbertti?, Naturals?, Erik Watts, Raven, Matt Bentley, Buff Bagwell, Amazing Red, New CHURCH, Ken Shamrock, Tomko, Trytan!!!, Austin Starr, Tenacious Z, Hector Garza, David Young,

damn, i think i exhausted this list

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I'll reply to your ''good thread'' Marty. After all, nobody else is.

I wouldn't introduce any originals for a while. In a couple of months when the feud is losing it's legs I'd bring them in. You'd have to assume that the New Blood would be the eventual winners of the feud. If not then the whole thing is pointless.

You can add the originals into the mix towards the end. Again, you've got to assume that after the MEM have split up that Styles & Joe will feud. Why not have Styles, Daniels & Low Ki as a small stable? TNA like to do the same shit over and over again, with just a little variation.

Imagine the heat when Curry Man removes his mask to reveal TNA's new main event wrestler, Christopher Daniels. The fans won't see it coming. But that could be down to the fact that hardly anybody buys their PPV's.

 

[Talon_DR]

There are only a select few from that group that I would bring back or even include in the Main Event Mafia vs TNA Originals storyline. Most of those guys are midcarders at best and alot aren't just cut out for TNA. Sonny Siaki won't be returning ever.

So far TNA has done a pretty poor job of building up the TNA Originals side. You have Samoa Joe and AJ Styles on the level of the MEM. Eric Young, Jay Lethal, The Machine Guns, ODB, Petey Williams and Consequences Creed haven't proven they are main eventers and haven't been used extremely well recently. I wish TNA didn't just bunch them in with Styles and Joe rather than let Joe and AJ recruit them when they are "ready". That way they have motivation to do better.

The names that could help the TNA Originals including who can be brought back and who can join the ranks that makes sense to me:

Fallen Angel- I wouldn't get rid of the Curry Man character but rather have Daniels be both at the same time. He is a great mouthpiece and a great wrestler.

Senshi- Senshi has never looked horrible and has always looked strong. I thought Shi would have been a great guy to build the X Division around and afterwards they still can. Shi has many moves that are used for the bigger wrestlers and it doesn't require alot of strength for the Warrior's Way.

Monty Brown- The final one who was built strongly in TNA and left. Brown at one point was the Rock of TNA and could have been a premier player in the company. Unfortunately TNA didn't pull the plug for a title run so that didn't happen. However Brown could return to TNA and run wild against the WWEjects.

NOW FOR THE WRESTLERS IN TNA WHO COULD POSSIBLY JOIN THE ORIGINALS
Abyss- Abyss is already feuding with Angle, he is a main eventer so he would help the TNA Originals side.

Matt Morgan- Like Abyss, he is feuding with Angle.

 

[My$terio_Fan]

I think Monty Brown would be a great choice. After the WWE stint he left wrestling for a while and I think TNA fan's would go crazy if he debut on the originals side. Monty was pretty big back in the good days of TNA and I think he would make a good edition to the original side. Christopher Daniels should return for sure. He could become a legit mainevent contender if he's pushed right and would make a great fit for the originals. As for Curryman if people want hime around, why don't they just hire some random jobber to dance around. Also what would really be huge(to TNA fans anyways)is if the originals were almost done and out of the feud and than have Ken Shamrock(first TNA champ)debut and make the save for the originals. Even though Shamrock probably qualifies as a legend it still would be pretty awesome. He probably would only have 1-2 appearances because Ken doesn't want to be involved with wrestling anymore but he still would get a good response from the crowd.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

I think since MEM is kinda intact was probably IMO the greatest group of veterans to join a faction (hall, nash, hogan for nWo is really good as well), i think it'll be a little interesting to introduce key players who "aj and joe" have up their sleeve to "counter" MEM

- guys like monty brown, even raven (who was mentioned by foley this week). Some "bigger" guys instead of many x division pipsqueaks like MMG

- Sure, most of the spike audience may not remember, but these guys can cut super promos to "remind" them. SOnny Siaki may have announced his retirement, but him coming back and being pusehd by Russo in a cool role, could give him a HUGE push. He's a big guy compared to the shrimps currently backing the originals and he was on the first very match at TNA

Trytan coming back, another big guy, would be humourous. .he can talk about that ridiculous gimmick he was given, and be "another Matt Morgan" i guess

These are just some names I would consider bringing back that would add some "intensity" and some 'bigger' people to the TNA originals group (which currently consists primarily of shrimps)

Even Buff Bagwell coming back would be a nice twist.. I know I'd mark out if Monty Brown, Siaki, or Raven came back to defend the originals

 

[SpiralHands]

I think the Originals team needs some more people or at least one more that are as good as AJ and Joe and needs the rub. Because the team of AJ Joe and the rets of the X guys to be honest isnt that impressive. I would without a doubt bring back Chirs Daniels because he has been at the top slightly and he could roll with AJ and Joe easily, he could do with the rub as well! But I wouldnt introduce anyone else until further down the line. I like the idea of bringing back Monty Brown I think that would be awesome, he can put on some great matches with members of MEM and of course is an original, I also think Abyss should be added to the team. But theres loads possibilties, and I would love to see some of the return!

 

[Talon_DR]

This is a good topic Marty congrats!


Running down everyone on your list:
Fallen Angel- Would make sense like I said before
Low Ki/Senshi- Again would make sense, his credibility as a main event player would be in question
Sonny Siaki- He is donating I think a kidney to his brother and would be unable to wrestle
Prime Time- Lacks the credibility and mic skills to be what he was. I truly believed Primetime also took steroids
Monty Brown- Has charisma, skills and mic skills and star power. He would be great for the TNA Originals side.
Jerry Lynn- Lynn is getting up there in age and I don't think he represents the youth movement the TNA Originals represent.
Kid Kash- Horrible attitude. I prefer AJ to stay rather than Kash to join TNA
Brian Lawler- Blah, not a big enough star
Chris Harris- Braden Walker lacked so much charisma. I truly believed James Storm carried the team.
Goldy Locks- Alot of fans don't know her
D'Lo Brown (kinda)- He is working for WWE
Mike Sanders- Was a funny guy in WCW but lacks the credibility for the storyline
Trinity- The storyline is for the guys. She was talented though
Kaz- Kaz could be good for the group but I would prefer him in the X Division
Simon Diamond/Johnny Swinger/Gilbertti- They were good but don't represent TNA Original mentality
Naturals- Don't have the necessary charimsa to help the Originals
Erik Watts- Ha, what a loser. His dropkick was an inch from the ground
Raven- He actually might be good for The Originals because he helped during the Pioneer Days of TNA
Matt Bentley- Lacked star power and wouldn't help the Originals
Buff Bagwell- Too old, not skilled enough
Amazing Red- Would be good for the X Division.
New CHURCH- Sinn is in WWE, Lee I think is somewhere busy. Slash and Mitchell might be okay for the tag division
Ken Shamrock- Too old
Tomko- Possibly
Trytan- HA
Austin Starr- In ROH, could be good for the X Division
Tenacious Z- He and his other leg could form a tag team. That was mean, I'm sorry
Hector Garza- Isn't allowed in the US
David Young - Not enough charisma

 

[Marty2Hotty]

Prime Time- Lacks the credibility and mic skills to be what he was. I truly believed Primetime also took steroids

That is probably the most ludicrious part of your post. Primetime is excellent on the mic and better than AJ and Joe, IMO. I thought he was awesome in WCW 2000 and whenever he got on the mic he was cool

Kid Kash; Gilberti liked talking about people in TNA being geeks. Maybe you need someone with a bad(ass) attitude like this guy to compete against MEM. All TNA has now are geeks

Chris Harris' last gimmick on TNA was him complaining about the old guys taking the spotlinght. A new look, attitude, good promos, may be cool for this guy

I actually dont think Buff Bagwell and Tomko would be bad for this. Shamrock vs Angle would be pretty cool too IMO..

 

[Handsome Dribble]

kaz could be epic. frankie kazarian has been around for a while. and they could use the storyline to really push Kaz like i know every fan of TNA secretly wants them to. Kaz could become HUGE. he would have to return during like a big match and swing things his way, put him in the frontline and it would be great. or have MEM say theyve got an original for themselves and reveal Kaz only for him to turn during either a ceremony cementing his induction or during a title match costing MEM.

 

[Christian Battlez]

kaz could be epic. frankie kazarian has been around for a while. and they could use the storyline to really push Kaz like i know every fan of TNA secretly wants them to. Kaz could become HUGE. he would have to return during like a big match and swing things his way, put him in the frontline and it would be great. or have MEM say theyve got an original for themselves and reveal Kaz only for him to turn during either a ceremony cementing his induction or during a title match costing MEM.

Kaz joining the MEM wouldn't make sense. I and every other fan wouldn't believe it. Thus the swerve wouldn't work. I think a team of AJ,Joe,Abyss,Brown,and Daniels would be much more believable than the group they have now. Daniels,Joe,and AJ were part of some of the greatest matches in TNA's history. Monty Brown and Abyss are big enough to hang with Nash ans Steiner. AJ has feuded with Sting and Angle. Joe has feuded with Booker, Nash and Sting. Daniels has feuded with Sting as well. So this group of TNA originals vs the MEM would work for me. I like the idea of Shamrock returning as well.I'd mark out for that.

 

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

It's probably inappropriate to put here, but again, is this feud MEM vs. "TNA Originals" or are they simply supposed to be the "young guys?" I think they are supposed to be the young guys and people happen to call them the originals do to who's in it now.

Now, I think Daniels definitely should return and join them. Monty Brown might be a good option too but I would think he'd go back to WWE if he could.

 

[Marty2Hotty]

I dont get that the heels of the original TNA are not associated with TNA originals. People like Beer Money, Shiek Abdul Bashir, Rock n Rave Infection (who haven't done anything since doing those pre-match promos), Sonjay Dutt, Abyss/Morgan, aren't involved in the feud against MEM

What on earth is Foley telling the "TNA original BABYFACES" to win matches against "TNA Original heels".. what is the TNA originals exactly... because you're a heel, you can't be an original?

nWo vs WCW was pretty crazy... but i dont think TNA knows what they're doing with the mid card... the tna originals: AJ and Joe are kinda *****es. and Foley is a pussy for doing stupid ass peptalks.. to the point where the crowd reacts less and less to him every week because his character isn't cool and exciting...

I miss th crazy characters that Vince RUsso used to write.. and ddevelop shows.. many people on this board are like 18-20 so they would be like 9 years old when WCW started and 7 years old when the attitude era started to understand how brilliant the writing was back then and how crazy the characters and stories and how exctied the crowd was for everything..

The crowd on WWE Raw/Smackdown is pitch silent to the stupid ass shit they put out because it's so f*cking lame.

 

[8five]

I think just like everyone else that if you want to keep calling them the originals and not just the young guys you need some sort of veteran of the business to anchor the group. The best way I see this happening is you have Jarrett got to BG James and be like you've been here all along go help the originals out. I think he can be a bit of a mouthpiece and just contribute to the respect part of the angle.

When Kaz comes back from injury I think they are going to put him in as the suicide character so I think that doesn't work. He would be the easiest to get over cause u just have him beat Angle after getting so close so many times before.

If TNA knew for awhile they were leading up to this angle then they should have unmasked Curryman during the X-cup. Daniels needs to be a part of this storyline and based on the spoilers I wouldn't be surprised if this happened sooner rather then later. Lo-Ki is a great talent and if they throw out an olivebranch and bring him back in it will also help the storyline.

Those are the only three I would put into the angle now

 

[BigDaddyKewl]

They need to trim the fat off of the New Bloods or whatever they call them now like the MCMG, ODB, Creed have to go. They also need someone for the enforcer role like maybe Abyss, Morgan or Tomko. They also need a mouth piece cause none of them can carry the promos, maybe Jarrett, Raven or Cage. This story line is a good way to bring Daniels back before the Curry Man gimmick ruins him. They need to fix this group or else they are going to get buried by the Mafia

 

[Father:_Polley]

Yeah, because getting rid of four of the more over wrestlers TNA have is gonna work great for them, especially if you replace them with Abyss or Morgan (Tomko is gone). As for a mouthpiece... how about they get someone who's actually NEW (just a thought).

Now I agree, Daniels return would be good, but beyond internet fans, how many kids are thinking 'That man dancing on stage is really Christopher Daniels, how awful for him'. None. Curry Man is over with the non-smark element because he's entertaining.

I almost hate to say this... but I agree with Marty. The only heels in a TNA vs Legends feud should be the legends. The likes of Storm and Roode can still be tweeners, not liking who they have to team with but the lesser of two evils in comparison. I think that's the best way to go about this feud... have them all together and against the MEM, after all, it's just a bottle to the head away from turning Storm heel again

 

[ExtremeSwagga93]

Well an obvious one would be Christopher Daniels, when I think TNA I think AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, and Daniels. He worked hard to help establish TNA and right now he is rotting with a dumb gimmick. He's one of their most talented performers and a true TNA original.

I also support them putting Lance Hoyt in the feud, of course it won't happen, but he is a TNA original and is in need of a good push so why not? It really is a shame how they're using him.

Jerry Lynn would also be a guy I'd bring back. He was the first NWA tag champ with Styles under the TNA banner and would offer the experience factor that the team needs.

 

[Mr.RKO]

The way the storyline is going now kind of disappoints me. I mean Team 3D should have instantly been on the MEM side, that would setup for abyss and matt morgan to join the Frontline. Anyway bring back Christopher Daniels and Kaz, if possible Raven too, and with a proper push and some training/mentoring Matt Morgan. Those are the only people I would add to the Frontline so they have a chance against the MEM.

 

[Mr.RKO]

The way the storyline is going now kind of disappoints me. I mean Team 3D should have instantly been on the MEM side, that would setup for abyss and matt morgan to join the Frontline. Anyway bring back Christopher Daniels and Kaz, if possible Raven too, and with a proper push and some training/mentoring Matt Morgan. Those are the only people I would add to the Frontline so they have a chance against the MEM.

 

[Thomas_Argyle]

Nobody should return. Frontline has too many members, and it's not set in stone who are in the group. In turn it hurts the group. It makes it look like they need 10+ guys in order to even dent MEM who only have 5 members.

In turn they should slim down Frontline to 5 distinct members. They could throw in another stable into the war lead by Beer Money.