Who is Todays Hogan that was yesterdays brooklyn brawler?

[SavageTaker]

I know it sounds a little bit confusing.So what i am trying to say what wrestler started their career as lets say a brooklyn brawler,a jobber to the stars basically.But while they started their careers they went on to be main eventers,and draws for the company.I don't necessarily mean someone on the leve that Hollywood Hulk Hogan was in,and it doesnt have to be like really close to Hogan,just someone that drew for the company and fans paid to see.Just someone that is a main eventer/upper midcarder now but was a nobody back then.

So my question is:Who are Todays Main eventers that were yesterdays brooklyn brawlers?

In other words who was a jobber type of person who went to be a main eventer or at least an upper mid-carder that people paid their money to see them wrestle.

So who do you guys think would be the wrestler that would answer my question?

The title of the thread should be Who are todays main eventers that were yesterdays brooklyn brawlers(A.k.A jobber).If that helps clear any confusion because im not exactly trying to compare anyone to hogan,that's just who came to mind when i was making the thread.

 

[Barbedwire Ropes]

I think the answer is quite simple.

Triple H.

Now of course, this is do to inside WWE politics. But when he first came to the WWE, he was on a level no higher than Jamie Noble is in today's product.
When he first started, he was losing to guys like Warrior and such in very short fashion. Now, he is on top. No one active in wrestling today has as many accomplishments as Triple H. Do I like him? No, not really, but im just answering the question.
Hopefully I understood it correctly and answered it as such.

 

[SAMBOLIEWWE]

UMMMMMMMM over half the roster. r u serious. Look at Jeff and Matt hardy. I know they are not " HOGAN " but u did say Maineventer or Mid Carder . Matt and Jeff were huge jobbers for years. JBL used to be Justin Hawk Bradshaw,,, or even one of the " New BlackJacks" he used to get his ass handed to him all the time

Remember when HBK used to be the little guy with a mullet who would get beat by everyone.



those are some big names in the company, and they were all jobbers.

 

[redmethod09878]

jeff hardy.jobbed to many guys in mid 90's for about 4 years an look at him now, a former world champ with a huge fan base

 

[Big Fella]

The question would be a lot less confusing had you asked, "Which wrestler seemed destined to be a career-long mid-carder that ended up Main Eventing?" because there is not another Hulk Hogan coming down the pike anytime soon. And if there were, they would start near the top of the card just like Hogan did the first time.

The first thought that came to mind however, is JBL. This dude got stuck with the Justin Hawk Bradshaw gimmick from 96-97.

After that he became 1/2 of the "New" Blackjacks with Windham, but Windham fizzled out leaving him as Blackjack Bradshaw until 98.

From 98-02 Bradshaw teamed with Farooq and formed the Acolytes (APA). The team stayed together though the Acolytes brand was tweaked several different times. The team won the tag belts 3 times and this was the first time in his WWE career you could argue he was part of the upper-mid card.

It wasn't until 04, 8 years after his debut that he won the World title and became a Main Event type player in the WWE.

But from jobber to Hogan status? Never that.

 

[SavageTaker]

The question would be a lot less confusing had you asked, "Which wrestler seemed destined to be a career-long mid-carder that ended up Main Eventing?" because there is not another Hulk Hogan coming down the pike anytime soon. And if there were, they would start near the top of the card just like Hogan did the first time.

The first thought that came to mind however, is JBL. This dude got stuck with the Justin Hawk Bradshaw gimmick from 96-97.

After that he became 1/2 of the "New" Blackjacks with Windham, but Windham fizzled out leaving him as Blackjack Bradshaw until 98.

From 98-02 Bradshaw teamed with Farooq and formed the Acolytes (APA). The team stayed together though the Acolytes brand was tweaked several different times. The team won the tag belts 3 times and this was the first time in his WWE career you could argue he was part of the upper-mid card.

It wasn't until 04, 8 years after his debut that he won the World title and became a Main Event type player in the WWE.

But from jobber to Hogan status? Never that.

You're right i should have clarified the question a little better.I didnt actually mean hogan status.

Anyways i do agree with those that say Bradshaw and Triple H.They went from having silly gimmicks or nobodies to main eventers/upper midcarders now.

 

[ThePhenomenalAlexSlack]

You can't be serious with Triple H. I don't know how much you actually watched around 95, but Trips started on a pretty long undefeated streak. He did get squashed by the Ultimate Warrior at WM XII, but that was because it was the warrior and as a heel he could get squashed be someone like that and still not lose too much credibility. Triple H was NEVER a jobber. He debuted in May of 95 and went over at Summerslam of that year. Who was the last "Brooklyn Brawler" type guy to get a singles match at one of the big 4 let alone win. It also only took him about a year and a half to win the IC title which at the time was still a pretty decent accomplishment.

Triple H has been more or less pushed since day one, and it is due to a lot more than just "inside WWE politics". There's a huge difference between playing a heel that always looks like he should lose then cheats, and being a jobber.

 

[TheSportsGuy1014]

You can't be serious with Triple H. I don't know how much you actually watched around 95, but Trips started on a pretty long undefeated streak. He did get squashed by the Ultimate Warrior at WM XII, but that was because it was the warrior and as a heel he could get squashed be someone like that and still not lose too much credibility. Triple H was NEVER a jobber. He debuted in May of 95 and went over at Summerslam of that year. Who was the last "Brooklyn Brawler" type guy to get a singles match at one of the big 4 let alone win. It also only took him about a year and a half to win the IC title which at the time was still a pretty decent accomplishment.

Triple H has been more or less pushed since day one, and it is due to a lot more than just "inside WWE politics". There's a huge difference between playing a heel that always looks like he should lose then cheats, and being a jobber.

After the MSG Incident Triple H did become a jobber for a while. That one incident set the whole Austin Era in motion. While he was never a brooklyn brawler, he did go to the dog house for a while. And didn't win much.

Someone also said Hardy was a jobber, when was this? He has been a mid-card guy forever. When they first came up they were involved in the tag team titles, not sure if it was right off the bat, but he was given high profile matches at WM's. They may not have won on the big stage, but by no stage jobbers. Hardy's singles career didn't really take off til recently, but he was given an IC title run a while back.

What about Edge? I could argue he is still a jobber. He puts over just about everyone and is given a world title to do it. He is a great performer and not really a jobber, he does job a lot. What title reign is he on now, like 8. In like 3 years.

 

[SavageTaker]

After the MSG Incident Triple H did become a jobber for a while. That one incident set the whole Austin Era in motion. While he was never a brooklyn brawler, he did go to the dog house for a while. And didn't win much.

Someone also said Hardy was a jobber, when was this? He has been a mid-card guy forever. When they first came up they were involved in the tag team titles, not sure if it was right off the bat, but he was given high profile matches at WM's. They may not have won on the big stage, but by no stage jobbers. Hardy's singles career didn't really take off til recently, but he was given an IC title run a while back.

What about Edge? I could argue he is still a jobber. He puts over just about everyone and is given a world title to do it. He is a great performer and not really a jobber, he does job a lot. What title reign is he on now, like 8. In like 3 years.

this is straight from wikipedia for jeff hardy:

Hardy had been on World Wrestling Federation (WWF) television as a jobber as early as age sixteen. His first WWF match was against Razor Ramon on May 24, 1994. The next day he wrestled against The 1-2-3 Kid, and the match aired on the June 25 edition of Superstars. He occasionally wrestled as a jobber as late as 1997 before beginning his first major run in 1998.

this is for Matt:

Hardy worked as a jobber from 1994 up until he signed a full-time contract. His first WWF match was against Nikolai Volkoff on May 23, 1994, which he lost by submission. He wrestled sporadically throughout 1994 in the WWF, losing matches against Crush, Razor Ramon, Owen Hart and The Undertaker. Hardy continued wrestling with the WWF sporadically, including matches against Hunter Hearst Helmsley and "The Ringmaster" Steve Austin. It was not until 1998, however, that the Hardy brothers were given full-time WWF contracts.

 

[mrstlouis]

The question would be a lot less confusing had you asked, "Which wrestler seemed destined to be a career-long mid-carder that ended up Main Eventing?" because there is not another Hulk Hogan coming down the pike anytime soon. And if there were, they would start near the top of the card just like Hogan did the first time.

The first thought that came to mind however, is JBL. This dude got stuck with the Justin Hawk Bradshaw gimmick from 96-97.

After that he became 1/2 of the "New" Blackjacks with Windham, but Windham fizzled out leaving him as Blackjack Bradshaw until 98.

From 98-02 Bradshaw teamed with Farooq and formed the Acolytes (APA). The team stayed together though the Acolytes brand was tweaked several different times. The team won the tag belts 3 times and this was the first time in his WWE career you could argue he was part of the upper-mid card.

It wasn't until 04, 8 years after his debut that he won the World title and became a Main Event type player in the WWE.

But from jobber to Hogan status? Never that.

hogan never started at the top .hogan was jobber in AWA & worked his way up .
hogan never started at the top of the card . hogan started at the bottom of AWa & worked his way up to main eventer in AWA then WWF stole him & he stayied in the main event . please no your history my friend because nobody started at the top in the 80's. they all had to work the way up In one big fed or another before WWF.

 

[Missin90sWrestling]

How about Shawn Michaels? He has somewhat gone full circle.

Started as a jobber from mid-south, awa and early days in WWF, but then broke away from marty janetty, got with sherri, while still jobbing from time to time, but moved up to main-event status. but now he has been jobbing for people as of late, and who doesnt see him losing to Taker at Mania this year? he's my favorite guy in the business now, but he's on the way out.

 

[Big Fella]

hogan never started at the top .hogan was jobber in AWA & worked his way up .
hogan never started at the top of the card . hogan started at the bottom of AWa & worked his way up to main eventer in AWA then WWF stole him & he stayied in the main event . please no your history my friend because nobody started at the top in the 80's. they all had to work the way up In one big fed or another before WWF.

First of all, we're not friends.

Second of all, its "know" your history and perhaps you should heed your own advice.

Hogan had already wrestled with Backlund and had a short feud with Andre the Giant prior to even stepping foot in a Verne Gagne ring, so to say Hogan started at the bottom of the AWA is flat out incorrect. He also filmed his role in Rocky III as well.

Hogan did not start out in the main event but he was already pegged as a rising star, certainly not a "jobber." Hogan joined the AWA in 82 and was already feuding with Bockwinkel for the strap before the end of his first year.

No go to your room Jr., grown folks are talking.

 

[supergav67]

If you go to Utube & type in Damon Striker ,youll see a young WCW newcomer get gubbed by Meng.Oh yeah,He looks a lot like Edge.

 

[BeansOnToastUK]

Could we also add MVP to this list? we have just finished watching him job to everyone (Yes including funaki !!) and look at him now. US champion and one of the favourites for the MITB.

 

[mrstlouis]

First of all, we're not friends.

Second of all, its "know" your history and perhaps you should heed your own advice.

Hogan had already wrestled with Backlund and had a short feud with Andre the Giant prior to even stepping foot in a Verne Gagne ring, so to say Hogan started at the bottom of the AWA is flat out incorrect. He also filmed his role in Rocky III as well.

Hogan did not start out in the main event but he was already pegged as a rising star, certainly not a "jobber." Hogan joined the AWA in 82 and was already feuding with Bockwinkel for the strap before the end of his first year.

No go to your room Jr., grown folks are talking.

excuse me but you are wrong jr . i know because i was watching hogan job in the early 80's before WWF . I am 31 years old & been going to wrestling since i was a baby. so you are talking to a grown folk.hogan was in the awa way before rocky III was ever thought about . hogan was also jobber in memphis. everybody in the 70's & 80's started at the bottom & had to work there way up.. look your history up to begining of hogan training & first year of wrestling & you will see he jobbed all the time at first.no one ever ever starts on top in the 70's or 80's & that is fact.

 

[sicmcnasti]

Here's the thing with this question - typically everybody has to work their way up. It's rare that there is a guy who starts out on top and every now and then they will give a guy a winning streak when he first debuts, but TYPICALLY everybody starts losing somewhere.
Jeff Hardy was the guy in plaid pants who was on his back for most of the time. See his match with Owen Hart for that confirmation.
Practically until '99, him and Matt were being squashed in some format like when Kane came out and destroyed them both around 1997-98.

I wouldn't really add MVP to this list because that was all a short time ago and that became a storyline in its own right and not really him being a jobber but just jobbing.

Triple H just had the squash with Ultimate Warrior. You shouldn't really rely on wikipedia for all your answers, you're better off looking up old wrestling facts in magazines or true wrestling sites but Triple H never was a WWE jobber, just - like MVP - jobbed some matches. Everyone does it. When The Great Khali debuted, guess who jobbed to him? Your beloved Undertaker.

Bradshaw would make for a good example and I'd say Randy Orton. Randy Orton started out a lot like Cody Rhodes - a short feud back and forth with Hardcore Holly, a terrible generic finisher, and being squashed in Batista's debut.

 

[Mr Wrestlemania]

Wow. The minute I started reading this I thought Triple H. The only reason being, because the minute I read the post all I can think of was the Ultimate Warrior getting knocked with a Pedigree....stand up....and tremoring like he was hulking up. Then in mere seconds, two running clotheslines, a gorilla press slam, and one standing splash later, and the Warrior looked like a freaking god. The terrible part is that's not even it. Hunter looked like he would've lost to Rockabilly or Flash Funk back in the day. I'd like to assume this is just because of the MSG incident. The Hardys are another pick for me. Before they were (because Matt is heel now) the darlings of WWEShop and the Jonas Brothers of the WWE, they would job out to EVERY SINGLE tag team ever in life! I've seen Jeff and Matt get squashed in singles and tag competitions. When WWF Heat first started I was begging for them to win, because although their attire was funny-looking, stuff like Poetry in Motion was amazing to a young 12 year old like myself. Now they're about to have a high-profile, and in my opinion, highly anticipated match at Wrestlemania 25. Oh yeah....did I mention that Jeff Hardy won the WWE Title too?

 

[ZEUS]

One thing that we all should be keeping in mind is that all almost all wrestlers start at the bottom. Another thing to keep in mind, is that for the wrestler to be a true "Brooklyn Brawler" type jobber, he should be showing no potential for increased skill or popularity. Therefore, HBK and the Hardy's are bad examples, despite being jobbers/entry level wrestlers for a time. They showed good potential even as jobbers though. JBL is a good suggestion though. He probably never should have main evented in the first place, as he showed no increased skill, popularity and only marginal character growth prior to getting his main event push.

 

[Freakinflax]

John Cena anyone? I don't like the guy but he was a jobber for a long time, especially during his hip-hop freestyle part of his career with B squared. He would spit, get in the ring and job. Now he's almost as popular as Hogan, sells merch like Hogan, does tons of celebrity appearances and a few movies like Hogan, has a strong connection to kids like Hogan, and has one of the worst finishers of all time, like Hogan.

 

[drummerboy144]

The undertaker,maybe he wasnt a jobber in wwf/e but he was in wcw before e became the undertaker so for me he is the biggest active legend in wwe period.

 

[KillBill]

What about Duane Gill? He went from from the ultimate jobber on WWF Superstars, (the Original) to....Gillberg......Gillberg......Gillberg lol. Seriously, he did get a little over with that gimmick and still uses it today I believe.

What about Bob "Spark Plug" Holly? He was jobbing to everyone, until he bacame Hardcore Holly, won some hardcore and tag titles, even got a world title shot.

I wouldn't really add MVP to this list because that was all a short time ago and that became a storyline in its own right and not really him being a jobber but just jobbing.

MVP was a jobber...in TNA! Look it up on youtube if you don't believe me.

 

[sicmcnasti]

John Cena anyone? I don't like the guy but he was a jobber for a long time, especially during his hip-hop freestyle part of his career with B squared. He would spit, get in the ring and job. Now he's almost as popular as Hogan, sells merch like Hogan, does tons of celebrity appearances and a few movies like Hogan, has a strong connection to kids like Hogan, and has one of the worst finishers of all time, like Hogan.

Um, when Cena was originally doing his rapping gimmick he was in feuds with the likes of Brock Lesnar and The Undertaker. Hardly jobbing.
I could maybe see when he first started but even then he wasn't a jobber just a guy with a weird haircut and "ruthless aggression"!