tdaddy92781
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Lane Storm and Chris Benoit (if he was living) they had the real technical skills minus the mic skills and charisma. But the question is GREATEST CANADIAN WRESTLER not ENTERTAINER...
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Thank you for coming back to earth Terry. If I had a "top 5" in canadian wrestlers. Then they would have to consist of...
5. Christian
4. Owen Hart
3. Chris Benoit
2. Edge
1. Chris Jericho
They would be in my top 5 for life.
I think it's honestly too early to claim Jericho won't have as large of an impact on the Wrestling industry as Piper has. Piper (while he has had that push you were talking about) has essentially been retired from wrestling for over a decade. Jericho is still an active contributor to the business.
It's hard to say what his impact will be 10 years down the road.
If you really think World titles, King of the Rings and Royal Rumbles measure greatness then you really have NO clue on what wrestling is and what makes a wrestler great.
Pipers status as a wrestling icon and the fact that he transcends generations automatically makes him better than Jericho or Edge. Piper will be more revered and remembered in the future than Jericho or Edge EVER will. Piper may not have world titles or royal rumble wins, but that's because he never NEEDED to be champ to get to that next level. The reason Jericho was first undisputed champ was because they wanted to make Jericho a main eventer, Piper was a main eventer simply by walking in the door, he was a main eventer in WWE before wrestling his first match for the company.
The reason Jericho and Edge won all of those accolades is because without them they would have been mid carders for life, Piper could lose every match and be more remembered and revered then Jericho or Edge ever will be because he was THAT good. Piper didn't need a title to be over and is remembered regardless of him never winning a title.
The truth is Piper's pit will be more remembered throughout the history books than Jericho's title reigns or Edges 10 world titles, Royal Rumble and KOTR and that's a fact. People will forget Edge even won a RR or KOTR in 10 years. Piper started the pit 27 YEARS ago and its still fondly remembered.
What are you smok'in on?The Rock is the greatest Canadian wrestler of all time. All is accolades combined with Canadian citizenship makes this one a no brainer.
Piper the wrestler or piper the gimmick that will be remembered? Comparing a wrestler in an era where the gimmick defined the wrestler and wrestlers from an era where the individual have to rely on less cartoonish caricatures to stand out is impossible. Using the titles as props as a knock on the other two is unfair as that is the norm of the era they are wrestling in.
You say Piper transcends generations and will be revered more than those two is a joke. Tell fans that started watching wrestling in 2000s who they will remember more in the future. Edge with his rated-R gimmick with Lita and ladder matches, or Jericho and his loudmouth antics and his participation in the jump from WCW to WWF or Piper and the run of the mill piper's pit? Who even remembers the pit unless WWE ****es it out like it is the BESTEST THING EVER like they do for everything?
Piper is one of the few that had a talkshow in wrestling but that is saying the person who invented the wheel will forever be better. You cannot reinvent the wheel but you can make it better and more efficient. That is what the other two you are putting down has done and that feat is no less worthy that what you claim Piper has accomplished.
Gimmicks are a big part of wrestling and mean more in the long run than someone being a good wrestler. Take the Undertaker for example, if he was just Mark Calloway he wouldn't have been nearly as popular.
deanerandterry said:You say that people who started watching wrestling in the 2000's won't remember Piper like they do Edge and Jericho? All I have to say to that is bullshit, that's like saying they will remember Jericho more than Hogan. Hogan (like Pipers pit) will always be remembered for the mark he made in professional wrestling. Its like how fans of all generations remember Jimmy Snukas dive off the cage when it happened before I was even born. Hell, I wasn't even alive during most of pipers pit but I heard about them, watched them for myself and now I completely understand why they are as you say ****ed out as a great thing, its because they were. Jericho and Edge BOTH had talk shows like Piper's pit and neither guys show is nearly is good as Pipers was, has nothing to do with Piper being the first, he was also the best.
My girlfriends 10 year old kid remembers pipers pit better than the Highlight reel because of the reputation that show has, and the funny part is I didn't even have to tell her kid about piper's pit, he already knew about it. Yeah WWE talked about it a lot, but its because it was awesome. So much for people who started watching wrestling in the 2000's not remembering.
deanerandterry said:Pipers show wasn't better because he was the first, his show's better because it was better. Jericho and Edge DIDN'T invent the wheel OR make it more efficient, sure they were good but I don't recall many memorable moments from both and I saw almost all of them. I've been watching wrestling all my life and I remember Piper's pit moments a lot more than any highlight reel episode.
deanerandterry said:Piper's pit was a big deal and because of it he is fondly remembered as well as being a fantastic heel. Piper's feuds with Hogan and Mr. T will be remembered more than any feud Edge or Jericho had. I'm not even knocking Edge or Jericho's accomplishments, I'm just saying titles don't make a person great. Greatness should be measured by the legacy one leaves behind and I firmly believe Pipers legacy is greater than Jericho's and Edge's.
Wrestling is A LOT more than what happens in the ring.
That is an incredibly bold statement to make. EASILY the most talented pro wrestler during the 90s? I don't know what you define as easy, but there are dozens and dozens of other guys in contention for that spot. I don't even think he's the best Canadian, let alone the BEST OF THE 90s! I get liking the guy, and a great case can indeed be made for him...but "easily"? Really?Chris Benoit. Shouldn't even be a question. He is easily the most talented pro wrestler during the 90s and only Kurt Angle (an American) is equal or better during the 00s.
Edge isn't above Owen? Really? If you say so, but I always thought Owen's death greatly exaggerated his career...Chris benoit was the best, then jericho and owen hart. Thats my top three after the hitman. Loved benoit throughtout entire career never seemed to give less than he could.
Chris Benoit. Shouldn't even be a question.