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I have just created a thread which asks you to rank Spear users and that lead me to think about all other moves that multiple guys do so I will suggested a few and you just say who did it best and why. My picks are the ones in CAPITALS
1. Crossface - Bryan or BENOIT
2. Superfly Splash - Uso's, Tamina or JIMMY SNUKA
3. Shooting Star Press - Brock Lesnar or EVAN BOURNE
4. Leg Drop - FANDANGO or Matt Hardy
5. Frog Splash - Rob Van Dam or EDDIE GUERRORO
6. Bicycle Kick - Sheamus or MATT MORGAN
7. Chokeslam - Big Show, Kane or UNDERTAKER
8. Powerbomb - Undertaker, The Shield, Kevin Nash/Diesel or BATISTA
9. Ankle Lock - Jack Swagger or KURT ANGLE
10. Book End/Rock Bottom - Booker T or THE ROCK

That is the start. When I think of some more I will do round 2. Feel free to suggest others and comment on your selections
 
im going to nitpick the hell out of this, simply because its 7am and iv not put a smile on yet.

1. firstly, the labelle lock is not exactly the same as the crippler crossface. it IS a crossface, therefore being variants of eachother but they are not the same move exactly so you cant really say who does what better.

2. i love the uso's but you have to go with uncle jimmy (i think hes there uncle, 2nd/3rd cousin maybe?) as hes the originator.

3. really? brock? how about kidman vs. bourne? now to answer THAT, i loved kidmans shooting star, it was gritty and DANGEROUS. (anyone, who was it that he kneed in the face when he overshot it in wcw? chavo maybe?) but id have to go with bourne, the man just looks so damn majestic.

4. ok i kinda understand this, but im going to go off the grid again, fandangos guillotine leg drop looks great so id take him over matt... but on record im going back to wcw. Juvitude guerrera had the best guillotine i can recall. i remember him hanging mysterio face up over the 2nd rope and hitting that leg drop, first time i had seen anything like it, it was great.

5. ehh i dont think this is fair. eddie is the best known when it comes to the frog splash, but the five star is on another level. im going to go eddie, but i feel like RVD surely does it better still.

6. sheamus... i love the brogue kick.

7. ok hard choice. big shows old chokeslam was just like a driving force into pavement but kanes chokeslam was demented... like he would truely try o put you THRU hell. takers was ok for me but the tombstone was always more appropriate. im going to say kane here.

8. more variants i suppose... considering the move was banned and i dont think there is any footage of the original move left (iv checked, correct me if im wrong) im going to have to say nash with the jackknife. powerbomb a man from 7 feet him straight on there neck? thats murder.

9. no discussion, kurt. however, shamrock might pissibly have him beat. i always thought kurt just took shamrocks mannerisms AND move when it came to the ankle lock.

10. variants again? the rock... in MY opinion the TRUE most electrifying move in sports entertainment. the book end was created just as an obvious goof when booker was fighting the rock. i dont think anyone can know that and truly compare the two lol.
 
1. Benoit - His sheer facial expression and the steroid induced arms looking like he is literally trying to rip the guys head off where as D Bry shakes his head a lot to distract from the lack of effort in the pull.

2. Jimmy - The original.

3. Bourne - Looks effortless, and perfect every time. None of this "land of your head" type efforts like Brock.

4. I'd go Fandango, he gets some awesome air-time with it...Never liked Matt anyway :)

5. Tough one! RVD sells the impact more, but Eddie executed it with more "power". For this one I'll go with RVD (pre 2013 - looks tired now)

6. Sheamus - looked amazing when he was on top as a heel, feuding with HHH. Now a little stale with the "beat my chest" build up each time...but still better than Morgan.

7. Chokeslam's are good if they are lifted high, and kept there for a few seconds...which I feel Kane did best. Undertaker's was just a prequel to the tombstone. Kane wins this one.

8. Batista made it look as if he wanted the man through the ring; Undertaker had an awesome lift put into it which looked epic; Diesel kind of let go and let the victim fall...I'll go Batista.

9. Kurt on the vote but I do agree with Zones; Shamrock should take this one.

10. How about Mr Kennedy's ridiculous reverse "rock bottom yourself" type move?! haha..I joke....The Rock takes this hands down, he made such an easy move look EPIC!

Great thread!
 
Just gonna talk about number 3. I'd go Paul London. His SSP was amazing. Better than Kidman's and Bourne's by far http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v3iZbl9s1Dg&desktop_uri=/watch?v=v3iZbl9s1Dg

lol i forgot about london! but its still too clean for my personal liking. londons looked almost flawless, he is up there with bourne. however, bourne gets so much damn air the man could cook dinner before he hits the mat. kidman on the other hand? quick, awkward, and risky. every time he did the shooting star it looked like he could possibly end someones career.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ipPIYQpbA


answered my own question from earlier btw... it was chavo he hit with the knee.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mxHiZRMfI
 
benoit was way better at the crossface, he could put it on you in an instant, the way bryan does it is all awkward and time consuming in comparison

gotta go with the original here, just for the historic reasons alone

brock should be subbed for kidman here and i think bourne does it better for sure

hogan has the best leg drop BROTHER

tie, both eddie and RVD did the frog splash perfectly

matt morgan all the way, his size alone makes his bicycle kick wayyy more devastating

ill say when he was the giant, paul wight had the best chokeslam for sure, he actually followed his opponent to the mat which made for a much harsher impact

diesels powerbomb sucked, when he went to WCW it got 1000x better for some reason, but he's my second fav at the move... my fav has to be the man with the scissors, Psycho Sid Vicious

kurt angle, duh

the rock made it look so much more fluid, add to the fact that WCW made booker use the move to rip off the rock and yeah, original is best here.
 
I am replying first without reading any one else's thoughts as I don't want to be affected by other opinions.

I have just created a thread which asks you to rank Spear users and that lead me to think about all other moves that multiple guys do so I will suggested a few and you just say who did it best and why. My picks are the ones in CAPITALS
1. Crossface - Bryan or BENOIT
2. Superfly Splash - Uso's, Tamina or JIMMY SNUKA
3. Shooting Star Press - Brock Lesnar or EVAN BOURNE
4. Leg Drop - FANDANGO or Matt Hardy
5. Frog Splash - Rob Van Dam or EDDIE GUERRORO
6. Bicycle Kick - Sheamus or MATT MORGAN
7. Chokeslam - Big Show, Kane or UNDERTAKER
8. Powerbomb - Undertaker, The Shield, Kevin Nash/Diesel or BATISTA
9. Ankle Lock - Jack Swagger or KURT ANGLE
10. Book End/Rock Bottom - Booker T or THE ROCK

That is the start. When I think of some more I will do round 2. Feel free to suggest others and comment on your selections

1-Benoit did the cross face the best. I've seen a few other people do the crossface, but i think you are confusing the lebell/yes/no lock with the crossface. the two are similar but most definitely different moves.
2-ah, since the move is named after him, have to go with jimmy snuka. however, there were other variations over the years that made the move more visually appealing like Venis' moneyshot, and Eddie G.'s frog splash (best of all imitations by RVD and DLO Brown)
3-Brock Lesnar? The idiot did it once and nearly killed himself. Evan does it best of the two, but during the good times in wcw, Billy Kidman's was the best since it was also the first seen in North America, and he was a tall, lanky guy.
4- I assume you mean a legdrop off the top rope? Again neither of these guys you listed have the best. Didn't Cena used to do a variation where he'd grab his leg in mid air before he landed? And I always thought Brian Christopher had a nice looking version.
5-Answered with 2. Eddie G's the king of the frog splash, all others are pale imitations. RVD's problem is he oversells the impact on himself. I know it must cause both some pain, but no one would be stupid enough to believe that any sane or moderately rational person would perform a move that appears to injure themself more then their opponent.
6-Not sure about this. both guys listed do variations that don't technically qualify it as a bicycle kick, yet I can't recall the last time someone other then these two really used this move. Didn't one of Deuce or Domino use a version?
7-this is tough. first time really started seeing this a lot was with Undertaker. He wasn't the first guy to do it, but he really popularised the move and made it look even more impressive then anyone before. Especially when he'd do the doublechoke slam. Kane has had some very solid slams, but I'd put him a little behind Taker as Kane was brought in to someone mimic taker's moveset so the lack of originality of the move as done by Kane drops him down. Show's CS is impressive but the added flourish of dropping to a knee to make it seem stronger actually makes it look less impressive. And I can't recall if he's ever managed to make it look good on a larger opponent. Both Taker and Kane have pulled it off with style and grace against guys as big as Henry.
A little forgotten, but I also liked The Hurricane's Hurrislam version just for sheer style and character.
8-I never liked Bautista's powerbomb. I'm not usually a fan of sitout bombs anyway. The Shield shouldn't even be on this list as they are terrible and it looks pathetic that it takes 3 of them to do one move. Between Taker's Last Ride and Diesel's Jacknife, I go for Taker, as he has the added little lift to push the opponent higher before yanking them down. Diesel/Nash is sloppy when picking up and then just flipping and dropping them on their backs. I actually liked Jericho back in the do would do a double or triple powerbomb on other light/cruisers, and one of my favorites was Ahmed Johnson's Pearl River Plunge. JBL's version wasn't too bad either, and even Jack Swagger's gutwrench variation is nice.
9-neither. I always liked Ken Shamrocks better then either of these guys. mainly because when Ken put it on the look on his face would just turn utterly maniacal and you could honestly believe he was really trying to break someone's ankle, especially knowing he came from MMA.
10-This is a tough one as the move itself is overhyped and all about style over real substance. The most impressive and impactful versions were actually ones that Ezekial Jackson used to do called Book of Ezekial. I also prefer the much more impressive looking flip bottom that Paul Burchill used, and of course Kazerian used it off the top rope and called it the Future Shock long before wwe used that name for Drew Mac's horrible doublearm ddt. Sin Cara does a nice flip bottom version off the top that he used as his finish for a while. The standard version is a weak cross between a side slam and a chokeslam. Kozlov used a move that came from Sambo a russian martial art, that was similar, but after hooking the move and starting the lift, you twist at the hips, driving the opponent into the mat with more impact, as it actually increased the hang time/distance travelled by the receiver instead of being just up and down.
 
1. Crossface - Daniel Bryan but I always liked the regal stretch better, cross face is a shit move for mine.

2. Superfly Splash - Obviously Superfly Snuka although Kamala's air africa was also very good.

3. Shooting Star Press - Billy Kidman until I saw Evan Bourne do it so Evan Bourne.

4. Leg Drop - Hulk Hogan. Liked his style, actually made it look powerful.

5. Frog Splash - Eddie Guerrero. He used to land it quick and hard and just cause he's the original luchadore to those of us unfamiliar with that kind of wrestler before wcw.

6. Bicycle Kick - Sheamus. Sometimes he actually connects.

7. Chokeslam - The Giant. Was a slight variation on how Big Show now does it, he seemed to drop his own massive weight into it back then. I'm guessing he changed it because it would've been rough on his knees the way he did it as The Giant.

8. Powerbomb - Vader. Did it very stiff, would've hurt like hell.

9. Ankle Lock - Kurt Angle, just the theatrics he put into it. Ken Shamrocks would be a very close second.

10. Book End/Rock Bottom - The Rock. It doesn't matter why!
 
10. variants again? the rock... in MY opinion the TRUE most electrifying move in sports entertainment. the book end was created just as an obvious goof when booker was fighting the rock. i dont think anyone can know that and truly compare the two lol.

Thats incorrect, Booker T used the Book End in WCW, he based his whole wcw heel persona on the rock as a parody of him.
 
Jesus. I don't know what's worse. The constant spamming or the butchering of English grammar.
 
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