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Where did all the rock go?

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I know a lot of us have noticed this, but for the past 5 years (maybe more), the rock genre has been really bland. Now, I'm not talking alternative, metal, punk, or any of that. I'm talking ROCK-stuff like AC/DC, Aerosmith, Zeppelin, etc. Nowdays, it's either crappy (for the majority) rap, shitty pop, and ridiculous pop "rock".

As you can tell by the title, I'm asking you all, where'd all the rock go? The only true rock band lately has been the Foo Fighters, and they can't carry a whole genre. I'm not saying it's gone, but we've been in quite the drought for most of the new millenium.

So, what's your opinion on this? Is it a natural progression of music that we have to live with? Or is it just that music overall has lost quality over the years. Feel free to suggest bands that you believe fit the rock genre, along with some of their songs you like.

Seriously, this sucks. I hope the new GNR and Metallica (yes, I don't think Metallica are entirely metal) albums help pick the genre back up.
 
I'm not certain I agree. There's plenty of bands out there carrying the torch for Rock music.

Breaking Benjamin, Three Days Grace, Staind, Avenged Sevenfold, Chevelle, Papa Roach, Seether, Theory of a Deadman, 3 Doors Down, Disturbed, Shinedown, Linkin Park, Tool, etc. have all been showing the various sides of Rock.

Music like AC/DC is good, but generic. I mean, how much different are the majority of the popular AC/DC songs really?

Rock has evolved, but that's natural. And I think with all the hip hop/rap influence in America, Rock has done very well for itself.
 
It didn't go anywhere, it's still around, you just don't notice it as much cause Rock has been broken down into so many sub-genres it's almost unrecongizable any more, I mean just look at this list, it's ridiculous

This is a list of music genres derived from rock and roll, including major rock, metal, punk, and alternative rock genres:

* 2 Tone
* Acid rock
* Afro-punk
* Alternative metal
* Alternative rock
* Anatolian rock
* Art punk
* Art rock
* Avant-garde metal
* Avant-rock
* Avant-progressive rock
* Baroque pop
* Beat
* Bisrock
* Black metal
* Blackened death metal
* Blues-rock
* Boogaloo
* Brazilian rock
* Britpop
* Bubblegum pop
* C86
* Canterbury sound
* Cello rock
* Celtic punk
* Celtic rock
* Chicano rock
* Christcore
* Christian rock
* Christian metal
* Coldwave
* Comedy rock
* Country rock
* Cowpunk
* Crossover thrash
* Crust punk
* Crust punk
* Cuddlecore
* Dance-punk
* Dance-rock
* Dark cabaret
* Darkwave
* Deathcore
* Deathgrind
* Death metal
* Death rock
* Doom metal
* Dream pop
* Electro Punk
* Emo
* Experimental rock
* Folk rock
* Folk metal
* Folk punk
* Freakbeat
* Funk rock
* Garage rock
* German rock
* Glam metal
* Glam rock
* Goregrind
* Gothic metal
* Gothic rock
* Grebo
* Grindcore
* Groove metal
* Group Sounds
* Grunge
* Hatecore
* Hard rock
* Hardcore punk
* Heartland rock
* Heavy metal
* Horror punk
* Horror rock
* Indie pop
* Indie rock
* Indorock
* Industrial metal
* Industrial rock
* Instrumental rock
* Iranian rock
* J-ska
* Jam rock
* Jangle pop
* Jazz rock
* Jersey Shore sound
* Krautrock
* Latin rock
* Lo-fi
* Lovers rock
* Madchester
* Manila sound
* Mathcore
* Math rock
* Melodic black metal
* Melodic death metal
* Melodic hardcore
* Metalcore
* Mod
* Mod revival
* Nardcore
* Nazi punk
* Neo-classical metal
* Neo-folk
* Neo-prog
* Neo-psychedelia
* New prog
* New wave
* Nintendocore
* Noisecore
* Noise pop
* Noise rock
* No wave
* Nu metal
* Oi!
* Ostrock
* Pagan rock
* Piano rock
* Pinoy rock
* Pop punk
* Pop rock
* Porn rock
* Pornogrind
* Post-punk
* Post-punk revival
* Post-hardcore
* Post-grunge
* Post-metal
* Post-rock
* Power pop
* Power metal
* Power violence
* Progressive metal
* Progressive rock
* Protopunk
* Psychedelic rock
* Psych-Folk
* Psychobilly
* Punk rock
* Punta rock
* Raga rock
* Rapcore
* Riot Grrrl
* Rock
* Rock Against Communism
* Rock and roll
* Rockabilly
* Rock en Español
* Rockoson
* Rocksteady
* Russian rock
* Sadcore
* Samba-rock
* Screamo
* Shoegazing
* Shock rock
* Ska punk
* Skate punk
* Skate rock
* Sludge metal
* Soft rock
* Soul rock
* Southern rock
* Space rock
* Speed metal
* Stoner metal
* Stoner rock
* Street punk
* Sunshine pop
* Surf music
* Surf rock
* Swamp rock
* Symphonic metal
* Symphonic rock
* Synth pop
* Thrash metal
* Thrashcore
* Trash rock
* Trip rock
* Twee pop
* Viking metal
* Wagnerian rock
* Wizard rock
* Zeuhl

I don't think there is another genre of music that has been broken down into more subgeners ever, hell half of those on that list I've never even heard of before, Rock is still alive and well, we just need to do away with the 50 million subgenres
 
Rock and Roll hasn't died in any form. It's still alive and will be for a long, long time. Rap/hip hop is in trouble. Is rock as popular as it once was? No. But its still there and going strong. Alternative rock is still going strong and while its not the same thing, its still the same style. There's no denying that bands like 3 Doors Down or Shinedown aren't still great rock bands. I am a rock fan and that's all I want to hear. Its classic. Old or new, alternative or traditional, its a genre that will never truly die.
 
Rock hasnt gone anywhere. Its still alive, and wont be going anywhere. I myself am personally enjoying the rock of today with the exceptions of Nickelback, Hinder, and Hoobastank. There are some great rock bands out there. Foo Fighters as mentioned, as well as Shinedown who are my personal favorite at the moment. I agree with Justin though when he says that we need to do away with all the subgenres. Rock is still healthy.
 
Yeah I agree with many others, while Rock music might not be as good as it once was, it still is going strong in the modern era. Rock is still one of the most popular music genres all around the world. With pop music and a few other genres being so popular in general, I think that has caused Rock to not be as popular as what it once was. I also think part of the problem is, that there isn't a current Rock band that truly stands out from the rest. AC/DC and Kiss stood out from the rest and therefore became very popular. But because their isn't a current Rock band that truly stands out, many people automatically assume that Rock isn't very popular anymore.
 
There is still heaps and heaps of rock music today. Except there are a few reasons why it's not noticed. Pop music is more popular than rock and all the rock music is split ito genres.

As Rusty said, pop music is more popular than rock music right now and this makes it seem like there is not as much rock music in modern times. But a lot of people I know are into rock way more than pop, so this still doesn't make any sense to me. Since rock is split into so many genres, it's sometimes hard to tell if the particular song is rock. Soft rock, for example, is not recognised as rock for some people, and some of the genres aren't classified as rock by some people.

Another reason why it seems to some people that rock is gone is because more people are listening to old rock bands, bands like AC/DC and Guns n Roses. Because people listen to these types of bands to get their rock fix, the new ones aren't being noticed as much and also, the better rock bands don't get much mainstream radio play anymore.
 
Rock is still alive and well, we have the Foo Fighters and now we've also seen the emergence of Kings Of Leon into the big leagues. These guys have just took rock back to the top of the charts, making it more fashionable, they're a breath of fresh air compared to the cheesy dance and pop of nowadays and will probably inspire a new generation of rock bands to pop up and make their own ways. Music goes through phases, and we're probably moving back into a rock phase very soon. Besides them there are many other rock bands wandering around on the underground scene, the rock's still there, you just have to look a little harder for it.

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I think Justin probably hit the nail on the head. I wasn't saying rock was dying, or rock isn't alive and well. It's just that I hate all of the subgenres. Back in the old days, you were either rock, metal, or something else. Now, when someone does something new, they get to name it and people start to fill THAT genre. It's just ridiculous.

And yes, Monkey, Shinedown kicks so much ass.
 
Well, I do believe Rock is still there - even if most of today's Rock bands don't exactly meet my musical taste lol.

I mean, there's a ton of bands out there who still play handmade Rock, and in recent years, there even has surfaced one or the other metal band to mainstream attention. However, of course even though they play "Rock", those bands which get more airplay and mainstream media attention are necessarily always those who are thought to be easier accessible by the regular consumer - which will not always be the truly "best" bands (but that in itself is a very subjective matter).

However if we're talking Rock - the genre itself has never died. Many of the bands you mentioned in the first post are actually still (or again) active today. I mean, AC/DC are about to release their new album this fall, Led Zepplin have just had a huge reunion, Uriah Heep, Deep Purple or Queen are also still doing their thing... They are all still there - just not in the "charts" or any mainstream position anymore. Naturally, that is because the taste of the time changes. The classic, hammond organ driven Rock of the 70ies that bands like Purple or Heep played just doesn't work with today's audience, it seems too old fashioned... Progressive stuff like Pink Floyd or Procol Harum simply requires too much attention and work on behalf of the listener to be accessible for the majority of radio/MTV consumers... Metal Bands are probably too "loud" and out of the ordinary stuff people are used to for most (even if there are always one or two bands out there nowadays as I've pointed out, like Metallica, or Nightwish, or Bullet for my Valentine)... but with the attention span of the average listener, you mostly can use stuff on radio that can be played decently in the background. Not too fast, not too hard in its sound, maybe something people can dance to in case you want it played when people go out... And Rock (especially the more "challenging" songs that go beyond the Bon Jovi / Nickelback songwriting style) is just not that suitable for that.

I think the quality of the music that is out there has not declined - there are still tons of great bands and musicians in all genres out there. If anything, the market has only grown and grown ever since the 70ies and 80ies. Back then, only the "cream of the crop" that really worked were able to capture a record deal, and record their stuff in professional studios. Nowadays, pretty much everyone can make music of pretty much any genre at home with their PCs... so there is a wealth of choice out there - some of which is good, much of which is crap - but definitely more than ever before. However, I believe in terms of mainstream music, the big record companies are of course working towards producing those types of music that will sell, and sell big. At the same time they keep their costs at a minimum, taking little risks with numerous casting stars already made popular by TV shows, casting boybands that are calculated teenage-girl-heartbreakers, and generally furthering types of music that just don't cost much money - generally music that will be less good, simply because people didn't invest much in it - neither time, nor money, nor creativity. For all that would cost money, but will work due to the basic laws of harmony and song structure - and we just don't want to spend more than we absolutely need to, right?

So all those developments, from the late 80ies onward, especially over the boyband and crappy dance-music culture of the 90ies, to HipHop that can be produced with minimal sound characteristics (a beat, a few harmonies for the background, and some singer) in our day and age; all those developments have watered down the quality in mainstream music more and more. Of course, ever once in awhile you will get a band or a singer who is exceptionally talented, and who can write great songs themselves. But for every one of those, you get 20 cast-acts and artificially produced and manufactured plastic pop/rock acts that have no heart and no soul in their music, modeled after a certain scheme, and simply work because they play music that follows a very simplistic rule, and that is designed only to appeal to broad masses who really do not want to or simply cannot spend too much time actually thinking about music or consciously experiencing it; but instead just want some short-term entertainment or distraction at little challenge for themselves.

Aite, I just realize that from an intended "simple and short answer", I've once again gone off on a rant about the evil that men do... lol... Sorry about that.

In any case: Good music is still out there. You just have to look for it in the right places.
 
rock is still alive.hell,almost my entire itunes playlist except for like a song or 2 is purely rock.but theres still alot of great rock bands around,its just overshadowed by Pop,Hip Hop,and Rap(which in my opinion,isnt that great).theres still alot of great bands around like Disturbed(my favorite atm xD),Hinder,Nickleback,Shinedown(they pwn too),Rev Theory,Breaking Benjamin,Papa Roach,Drowning Pool,Puddle Of Mudd,Three Days Grace,Three Doors Down,i could continue for a while and theres still alot of great rock songs around.just gotta look for them.
 
i think there's lot's of good rock music, but its changed since the time of acdc and aerosmith and that stuff. that's considered "classic rock". i think somje good rock bands today are seether, salive, theory of a deadman, nickelback...and all those kinds of bands.
 
I'm not certain I agree. There's plenty of bands out there carrying the torch for Rock music.

Breaking Benjamin, Three Days Grace, Staind, Avenged Sevenfold, Chevelle, Papa Roach, Seether, Theory of a Deadman, 3 Doors Down, Disturbed, Shinedown, Linkin Park, Tool, etc. have all been showing the various sides of Rock.

Aside from Tool, every band you just listed makes my "Worst Noises Ever Recorded In Earth's History" list. If those bands are the representation of modern rock, then rock is surely dead. (Except for whoever the hell Theory of a Deadman is, never heard of em)

And Luther...THE FUCKING KINGS OF LEON?! Terrible. Absolute drivel. I could go to any indie show in the entire country of England and find a band exactly like them.

I don't know, maybe I'm just an inconsiderate asshole, but some of the bands being listed here as good modern rock disgust me.

Rock isn't dead; it'll never die. You just have to actively search for good rock these days; cause you sure as hell aren't going to find it on MTV or the radio.
 
Rock's out there. It's just not as strong as it was back in the days, the kind of rock most commonly referred to as "classic rock" will never ever be duplicated. You can never have another era of music like back in the 60s-Early 90s. It's just not gonna happen. There are plenty of great bands out now but I think we should stop expecting a new AC/DC or a new Skynyrd or Eagles. Just let the bands set their own pace. My personal favorite bands are Killswitch Engage and Alter Bridge.. that's just me though.
 
Speaking of "expecting a new AC/DC" - you oughtta try AIRBOURNE, also from Australia. A pretty young band, have just released their second album "Runnin' Wild", which got them a major breakthrough internationally and rave reviews with basically every rock magazine. Get that record - that is one really good, old-school Rock'n'Roll thing!
 
I think its time everybody discovered the best band of this time and that band is The Mars Volta, they are unlike every band today because they invented their own style and aren't ganking anyones tunes and they are a group of some of the most talented musicians at each instrument and are putting out phenominal music each album they make, if you havent yet its time to start believeing in The Volta because they can save rock music as we know it
 
The simple answer is that it all died of drug overdoses in the 70's and the survivors broke up fighting over modles in the 80's. The garbage (Nickelback) that we're left with is the worst (Nickelback) music ever.

At least I still have Tool. Tool is great.

I think that hunting for rock music is helpful. Smaller bands might be good. I'd recommend something, but they all sound the same.

Girls seem to like emo bands, so everyone tries to do that. It is dominated by a bunch of guys who couldn't get girls in high school doing what they need to do to get laid. It's unfortunate, but have you tried your local classic rock station?
 
The simple answer is that it all died of drug overdoses in the 70's and the survivors broke up fighting over modles in the 80's. The garbage (Nickelback) that we're left with is the worst (Nickelback) music ever.

At least I still have Tool. Tool is great.

I think that hunting for rock music is helpful. Smaller bands might be good. I'd recommend something, but they all sound the same.

Girls seem to like emo bands, so everyone tries to do that. It is dominated by a bunch of guys who couldn't get girls in high school doing what they need to do to get laid. It's unfortunate, but have you tried your local classic rock station?

I agree with this Tool is very good and they are one of the few originals bands left with that said Im gonna referencemy last post and tell you to give The Mars Volta they created their own sound and really are putting out the music that they like and are doing a damn good job at it, go look them up theyre are defenitely worth trying out in this terrible age of rock music
 
I know a lot of us have noticed this, but for the past 5 years (maybe more), the rock genre has been really bland. Now, I'm not talking alternative, metal, punk, or any of that. I'm talking ROCK-stuff like AC/DC, Aerosmith, Zeppelin, etc. Nowdays, it's either crappy (for the majority) rap, shitty pop, and ridiculous pop "rock".

they are still there but it seems that they are not because they are changing their styles to fit the standards of today's "rock music"...take bands like Iron Maiden, Manowar, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath(i'm referring to them coz it's what i listen most), they are keeping it original and not trying to blend in by making video clips to put on MTV, or going to the MTV POP awards and stuff like that

trust me, they are there but if you don't really know 100% how they were back then, then yes, you might believe they aren't there anymore
 
All the "good" rock music went out the window. I'm talking about bands like the old GNR, Billy Idol, Poison(If you want to count them), Soundgarden. I'm a big eighties and 90's fan. Rock pretty much went out the window when the pop genre began, that includes Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears(innocent Spears), Christina Aguilera, NSYNC, and 98 Degrees.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of "New" rock I like. Bands included are, 3 Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, Seether, Hinder, and AFI, just to name a few.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers are another band that's still around.

To some people music is progressing. And to others it's digressing. It just depends on the person.

Rock isn't what it used to be. But the "new" rock isn't so bad either.
 
Rock didn't go anywhere, it's simply evolved. Complaining over the lack of old school-type rock bands like Zeppelin or AC/DC is pretty ridiculious because that was a completely different period in time and music. It'd be like me complaining over the lack of doo-wop groups these days. Well no shit, because music changes over time.

That old school classic rock and roll style is dead, and has been since John Bonham died in 1980. Sad, but true.

But rock and roll itself has branched out and mixed with so many different subgenres now and we've got some incredibly exciting music coming out now. If you're into punk rock, indie, metal, screamo, or even electronica theres loads upon loads of great modern bands. Especially indie rock, which has virtually become the mainstream at this point.

So the rock didn't go anywhere, you're just not looking in the right place. Stop listening to utter trash like Seether or Breaking Benjamin and move on to something less mainstream.

[EDIT: Just realized that I already responded to this thread earlier; oh well. Consider this an addendum.]
 

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