Whats up with Sting?

[The Pizzaman]

Im wondering what is going through Stings mind on TNA. he was a face, disapeared, then returnd as a heel. Whats the story? Sting is the only wrestler that has never been on WWE and has got so many fans that have followed his career for years and stood behind him. why does he feel that now he is going to drop them. What are your thoughts?

 

[jccool420]

Sting and Hogan have a long standing rivalry... Sting returning as a heel was really the only option that made sense to anyone who knows the history of their WCW fued and knows how much Sting really respects Flair... Plus he was AJ's mentor... It made sense, I just hope Sting is devoted to being a heel...

 

[Lil_Rick]

Well, my thoughts are as follows. IT'S WRESTLING FOR CHRIST SAKES!!! You're talking as if it's real. Sting will have just as loyal a fan base as a heel as he has as a face. You are reading entirely too much into this. It is just a storyline, plain and simple! Trust me Jr., if the Stinger didn't want to make the swerve then it would not have been done, period. Please for the love of all that is holy, stop buying into all of the kayfabe. It is one thing to suspend disbelief during the program in order to enjoy a VERY entertaining product, but when people like you start going this route with it, it really shows why wrestling can't touch those fans on the edge anymore.

 

[The Duke]

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The whole thing though about Sting being a "heel" is the last few times, he hasn't been able to maintain it. I do however think that this has all the potential to be a fantastic storyline. Sting and Hogan have that great history in WCW and if they can take that and even regenerate 1/3 of it, you'll get some great ratings based on that. Not only does Sting have a great history with Hogan but with Flair and somewhat AJ, it could be very interesting. Maybe...another run of the 4 horseman? Flair, Styles, Sting, Wolfe? Not that I want to see that, but it's chin stroke worthy....hmmmm?

 

[TheJazzyOne]

Well, my thoughts are as follows. IT'S WRESTLING FOR CHRIST SAKES!!! You're talking as if it's real. Sting will have just as loyal a fan base as a heel as he has as a face. You are reading entirely too much into this. It is just a storyline, plain and simple! Trust me Jr., if the Stinger didn't want to make the swerve then it would not have been done, period. Please for the love of all that is holy, stop buying into all of the kayfabe. It is one thing to suspend disbelief during the program in order to enjoy a VERY entertaining product, but when people like you start going this route with it, it really shows why wrestling can't touch those fans on the edge anymore.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the way he asked the question. I think more internet "fans" would enjoy wrestling more if they didn't have to make sure that everyone knew it was fake.

If you go to a movie, and the butler kills his employer, isn't it okay to say "Hmmm, I wonder why the butler killed her?"

If someone asks that, and I don't turn around and say "The butler didn't really kill her. They're all actors. It's fake."... I'm pretty sure people still know that I understand it's just a movie.

 

[shattered dreams]

I personally was surprised even though it made a lot of sense for him turn because he normally is so averse to the heel role. However, the way he went about it in his return had to at least say to the critics that he is committed to it. Also, if one person can coax that commitment out of him it is flair.

 

[CaptainZaltan]

I think the fact that Sting has never been a true heel before (not to my knowledge, at least) is the appeal of the whole thing. TNA is trying to replicate the hype caused by Hogan's heel turn to join the NWO. Personally, as a fan I love it. I have yet to see heel Sting cut a promo or explain his turn, but his mere presence as a heel has been great. I just hope that he sticks to his guns and plays a true heel, rather than playing a tweener like he did with the MEM out of fear of losing his fans.

 

[mooseman]

Is Sting a heel or is trying to protect TNA from outside influences? He has sided with Styles, an original, and has only attacked Hogan, Dixie and RVD, clear outsiders. I'm really intrigued on where this is gonna go. Personally I hope to see a camaraderie with some of the originals. Maybe have a mystery partner for Sting's team at Lockdown with it being revealed as either Samoa Joe or Jarrett. I hope TNA goes the route of no heels or faces. Let us decide who want to support.

 

[Ghost of Benoit]

Is Sting a heel or is trying to protect TNA from outside influences? He has sided with Styles, an original, and has only attacked Hogan, Dixie and RVD, clear outsiders. I'm really intrigued on where this is gonna go. Personally I hope to see a camaraderie with some of the originals. Maybe have a mystery partner for Sting's team at Lockdown with it being revealed as either Samoa Joe or Jarrett. I hope TNA goes the route of no heels or faces. Let us decide who want to support.

This logic really makes no sense because Sting himself is an outsider just like Flair, Hogan, and RVD are. By no means is Sting a TNA original. Just because Sting arrived in TNA a few years before the other stars did doesnt make him any less of an outsider.

 

[Pedro08]

Stings heel turn has started off well for the most part, although I don't know why he would leave the ring last week and not return when the babyfaces got the upper hand. He has had problems in the past fully committing to being a heel, which I think has hurt previous turns.

He does however need to cut a strong promo explaining his turn in order to solidify it. I feel it would be just a waste if he just continues to attack faces with no explanation. It would be just like WCW where it seemed like he spent a whole year in the rafters without saying anything, just attacking people.

 

[TNA cross the line]

This logic really makes no sense because Sting himself is an outsider just like Flair, Hogan, and RVD are. By no means is Sting a TNA original. Just because Sting arrived in TNA a few years before the other stars did doesnt make him any less of an outsider.

Sting may not be a TNA original in the true since but the way i see it there is no tna without sting and it makes no F****** since to call sting an outsider in tna. i didnt expect to see him side with flair and aj i thought he was going to get in the storyline with EzE and JJ and Foley and i just see this as a better situation for him to play the heel role as opposed to the MEM storyline but i do love the concept of tna letting the viewer chose the side they want

 

[mvalley]

For Sting, I'd like him to be a 'justified heel'.

He'd have two main points.

First and foremost, he is out to protect TNA. Nearly ten years ago WCW suffered from Hogan and Bischoff refusing to let the younger talent shine. Instead, Hogan would shove himself and all his friends down everyone's throats. Sting will even state that Hogan is doing it now with Abyss instead of sitting back and letting the fans select who they want. Sting wants TNA to live, not die like WCW. In short, Sting blames Hogan for the death of WCW and has waited nearly ten years to confront Hogan about it. And when Sting was finally able to confront Hogan, he did so with a bat.

Second, this is a matter of respect. Six months ago, TNA was very respectful to him and very appreciative for what he has done. Now, Sting has been given no respect. When he had to miss the Jan. 4th show due to a family emergency, Bischoff ripped him up about it and Dixie let him. Sting will say he has been loyal to TNA for over five years, through the good and the bad, and even when people said it wasn't worth it, that he should spend his remaining years in the WWE, Sting stayed. When TNA needed him, he was there.
Now, this one time that Sting couldn't be there, TNA, or rather Dixie Carter, ripped him apart. Sting would say he would have thought after five years, TNA would have given him the benefit of the doubt and to trust him. However, as has been the case in the past regarding trust towards him, he was wrong.
In addition, since Hogan's entry, Sting has received only one phone call and that was to tell him to show up on the 4th. Dixie didn't ask but rather instructed him that he needed to be there. In fact, Sting had to call Dixie to sign a new contract. Sting will say that is major disrespect to a guy who has given so much to their company. Furthermore, that is major disrespect for someone who has accomplished so much.

This would add interest to his character. He's not turning heel for some lame reason but rather an understandable, sympathetic reason. Some fans would agree, some would disagree.

 

[BenMannHitman]

Sting being heel is just as believable as ricky steamboat bein heel.to be a heel you need the people to boo you,not cheer and bow to you when you walk to the ring.I love sting but I don't buy him as a heel

 

[Depakote]

I think we are going to see history repeat itself again. Sting and Flair will team up for awhile, like they did when Sting was one of the Horsemen. Flair will betray Sting and they will wrestle each other. Sting will work as a face, just like the last time this happened. Flair and Sting have a ton of respect for each other. Listen to the promo Flair cut on the last broadcast of Nitro and how much he puts over Sting. There have also been reports of Sting deciding to stay in TNA just because Flair signed up. I think these two want to work another match together while they still can and its going to happen. Its inevitable.

Sting never gets over as a heel. Never. He has always been a fan favorite and he always will be. He does get over as a tweener though, and thats what he's doing now. He's just making everyone want to see him as a dedicated face again. He's getting the fans interested in his character so that when they finally pull the trigger on the Flair/Sting program, it will be a huge success. If Flair were to have one last truly great and epic match left, it would be against Sting and I think its going to happen.

 

[future admin]

Sting is very close with flair, a few months ago he said the only reason he is still with TNA, is because flair is there, why not align them with eachother. Another point is that he was AJ's Mentor. and now they are aligned. and I've read that he wanted to be aligned with flair, and I'm pretty sure he has beena a heel before, why is this such a shock

 

[Depakote]

Sting is very close with flair, a few months ago he said the only reason he is still with TNA, is because flair is there, why not align them with eachother. Another point is that he was AJ's Mentor. and now they are aligned. and I've read that he wanted to be aligned with flair, and I'm pretty sure he has beena a heel before, why is this such a shock

I dont think the IWC is shocked as much as they just dont feel that its a comfortable fit for Sting regardless of his real-life relationship with Flair. Sting has been a heel before but it never gets over. He always ends up as a tweener. This is why I stated in my last post that his alignment with Flair is only temporary. They are building up for a match between the two. Mark my words. These guys want to work at least one more match between the two while Flair is still capable. We will probably see the match happen before the summer is over. It will probably happen in July because it will mark the anniversary of the Great American Bash where Sting beat Flair for the world title. The buildup to that match saw Sting join the Four Horsemen just be betrayed by Flair. History will repeat itself in TNA and this is one case where I dont think its a bad thing, even though its very predictable for any fan who's been watching as long as I have.

 

[Colamania]

Sting as a heel is a very exciting prospect for me. I've watched TNA religiously ever since it moved onto Bravo over here (that's a good few years. Christian Cage was still there, put it that way) and while Sting has pretty much always been one of my favourite wrestlers in any company, the same old stuff was getting kind of tired. Even when he started MEM it was a kind of justified heel thing, "Oh, I'm trying to get respect for myself and the veterans" shtick. Now, please, TNA, give him a chance. He's a fantastically skilled worker on the mic, and given a chance, I really believe he could make an excellent asshole heel, a real "I don't give a crap what you think" kind of guy. A hero like that turning his back on the fans can really work if you give it the chance (see: The Rock's heel turn in 2003, and epic battles with, yes, The Hurricane!) and I don't think anybody could pull it off better than Sting. And yes AJ Styles, I'm talking to you. You're not working as a heel. Shouting more often and wearing a suit doesn't make you a good heel. Step aside and let the Stinger be the epic heel, you just get it done in the ring.

 

[montkvsting]

Personally, I am not sure why they turned Sting heel. It didn't worked before and it won't work now. Sting is the face of all faces. He is the ultimate good guy. He will always be cheered. Eventually, he will become a face again. He is vastly popular with the fans. Some guys are made to be faces and some guys are made to be heels. Sting is made to be a face.

 

[r_amanze]

For Sting, I'd like him to be a 'justified heel'.

He'd have two main points.

First and foremost, he is out to protect TNA. Nearly ten years ago WCW suffered from Hogan and Bischoff refusing to let the younger talent shine. Instead, Hogan would shove himself and all his friends down everyone's throats. Sting will even state that Hogan is doing it now with Abyss instead of sitting back and letting the fans select who they want. Sting wants TNA to live, not die like WCW. In short, Sting blames Hogan for the death of WCW and has waited nearly ten years to confront Hogan about it. And when Sting was finally able to confront Hogan, he did so with a bat.

Second, this is a matter of respect. Six months ago, TNA was very respectful to him and very appreciative for what he has done. Now, Sting has been given no respect. When he had to miss the Jan. 4th show due to a family emergency, Bischoff ripped him up about it and Dixie let him. Sting will say he has been loyal to TNA for over five years, through the good and the bad, and even when people said it wasn't worth it, that he should spend his remaining years in the WWE, Sting stayed. When TNA needed him, he was there.
Now, this one time that Sting couldn't be there, TNA, or rather Dixie Carter, ripped him apart. Sting would say he would have thought after five years, TNA would have given him the benefit of the doubt and to trust him. However, as has been the case in the past regarding trust towards him, he was wrong.
In addition, since Hogan's entry, Sting has received only one phone call and that was to tell him to show up on the 4th. Dixie didn't ask but rather instructed him that he needed to be there. In fact, Sting had to call Dixie to sign a new contract. Sting will say that is major disrespect to a guy who has given so much to their company. Furthermore, that is major disrespect for someone who has accomplished so much.

This would add interest to his character. He's not turning heel for some lame reason but rather an understandable, sympathetic reason. Some fans would agree, some would disagree.

Great post Mvalley.

I believe that as someone who has never been comfortable with a heel role this would be the best way for Sting to explain it. At least this way he can go full-blown uber-heel with confidence.

Let the fans decide if what he is doing is right or wrong. Hogan isn't holier than thou. Hopefully some of the fans will understand this.