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What's Been The Worst Case of Nepotism in Wrestling?

Tenta

The Shark Should've Worked in WCW
Ah, yes, nepotism. It's the one thing in the world of business that we all hate with an utter passion, but it's there. It's something we must acknowledge, and accept as a truth. As long as overprotective fathers and spoiled sons exist in the world, we're going to have to accept that certain people got promotions, hell even their jobs, from who their father was. It's almost as American as Baseball and Hot Dogs, really.

But, in no business is nepotism more accepted than the business of professional wrestling. It's often said that bookers should never be on screen characters, as they will start to book in their best interests, rather than the companies. And really, what father doesn't want to see their son succeed in the business?

Well, clearly, the answer to that question is no father wants to see their son succeed. Mainly because, if they did, they wouldn't push their untalented sons to the moon, as it's widely expected that wrestler will be boo'ed out of the building. Now, plenty of wrestlers have been booked by their father, and survived. Look no further than The Hart family. Booking never killed Bret or Owen in Stampede, as they did just fine for themselves, and were legitmate draws. But for every Bret and Owen, there's a Ross and Bruce Hart, who still get pushed by their father into the company, ans wind up sputtering. It can be said that Bruce was the reason Stampede failed, and Stu watched idly by, now wanting to see his son fail. At the end of the day, booking your son seems an accepted aspect of professional wrestling, and has yielded us some of the worst results in wrestling. The question is, what has been the worst case of nepotism in professional wrestling?

For me, it boils down to one man, and his quest to get his neophyte son try to get over in WCW. And that would be the seriously under prepared Erik Watts.

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Yes, the son of Good Ol' Bill himself. When Bill took over as the head of WCW in 1992, and as booker, he did some good in WCW, but did plenty more bad. He did things such as cutting catering from live events, dimmed lights so that wrestlers almost couldn't see their opponents, and eliminated ringside mats for the "tough" look. But perhaps his most polarizing move in WCW was the idea that his son, Erik, who before 1992 had been a quarterback at Louisville, was deserving of a chance to be at the top of the promotion. For two years, Watts was treated as a God of wrestling, matched up with the likes of Arn Anderson, Rick Rude, and other top heels in WCW at the time. And, much more shamefully, these men were forced to sell for the guy that barely looked like he had any muscle on his body, and even less talent. He couldn't take a bump to save his life, and his "work", if you can call it that, consisted of mainly rest holds and punches. Not exactly the expected work of a main event athlete, but remember, he was a God. All because his father was the booker. This man was lobbied to be given the world title, and the only thing stopping it was Watts' own need to look credible to the boys. Thus, while Watts was never given the belt, he was given plenty of chance to get boo'ed on a national level, and be hated by the boys for his father's pushing of the untalented, clueless Erik.

Need evidence? Watch this classic between Erik Watts and the Mambo Warrior. Mind you, this isn't Kamala, as most would believe. Just a horrible, horrible impression of him.



Which gives you my case for the Worst Sign of Nepotism in Wrestling. What would be yours?
 
Erik Watts is definitely a good pick for sure but there are a couple others I would like to throw in there.

The first being Greg Gagne. Now I'm not saying Greg had no talent, but unfortunately his only talent was in tag team matches, as a singles competitor he wasn't very good, but he was pushed and pushed HARD by Verne, almost to the point of making him World Champion (thank god that never happened). He was a great tag wrestler, but as a singles wrestler he was pretty bad and got pushed way more than he deserved in my opinion.

With Greg said I would have to say the WORST in my opinion was Mike Von Erich. Now a lot of it wasn't Mikes fault (toxic shock syndrome would mess up anyone) as he had potential in the beginning, but after his Toxic Shock incident he was done, his career was over, he could barely cut a promo and his in ring skills suffered BIG TIME, but he was still pushed unbelievably hard. They basically tried to make him into David, but he had absolutely NOTHING that David had, no charisma, mic work was terrible, and his in ring work was sub-par (after the incident of course), but he was pushed to the main event level, he even won the WCWA world heavyweight championship when there was a dozen other wrestlers more worthy of it (chris adams for example).

Erik Watts was bad but I think Mike beats him just on the fact he was made the top dog, Erik Watts never quite reached that level.
 
its called triple H.

Can't say I agree, per se, because even without Vince and Steph, Triple H had the talent. It wasn't like Triple H was a bum with no talent; he was even a world champion before he married Stephanie. Now, would he be as proclaimed a world champion? Perhaps now, but he'd still be a star in wrestling. I mean more the cases of those who weren't ready for the spotlight, yet still were pushed.

Greg Gagne is a terrific example, Deaner. I remember watching the AWA, and seeing Bruiser Brody have to sell for this guy. Even at seven watching a video tape of wrestling, I knew this shouldn't be happening. Gagne was a decent wrestler, but nowhere near championship material. And watching him beat up on King Kong Brody and The Barbarian was my first sign in wrestling that something just didn't smell right. At all.
 
I don't know if I'd say they're the absolute worst examples of nepotism, but I'd argue that both Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase Jr. are qualifying candidates for being awarded spots in a company regardless of merit based solely on the legacies their fathers and relatives have made previously. Neither, IMO, is much of a talent – certainly no better than a number of other talents in their very own company, worthy of receiving the pushes they've received. They both have the personality of a dial-tone, and neither is very capable of garnering crowd creation, so I'd contend they both should at least qualify as possible applicants.
 
I don't know if I'd say they're the absolute worst examples of nepotism, but I'd argue that both Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase Jr. are qualifying candidates for being awarded spots in a company regardless of merit based solely on the legacies their fathers and relatives have made previously. Neither, IMO, is much of a talent – certainly no better than a number of other talents in their very own company, worthy of receiving the pushes they've received. They both have the personality of a dial-tone, and neither is very capable of garnering crowd creation, so I'd contend they both should at least qualify as possible applicants.

Would be a great choice, as they do live off their family legacy. Though, there are two issues for me with Cody and Ted.

1. They really haven't accomplished that much, really. They were what, tag team champions at best? Sure, they get some political backing, but it isn't as though they were pushed as potential world champions. At least yet. Who knows, maybe this could turn out to be a case of Legacy leading to nepotism

2. Dusty books for FCW, and that's it. Ted doesn't book at all, so it isn't as though they're pushing their sons.

Though, I will admit, Dustin Runnels' first run in WCW was sheer nepotism, so Dusty has had a hand in it. And, from what we've seen with Shane, Steph and Vince, the WWE is quite filled with nepotism
 
I don't know if I'd say they're the absolute worst examples of nepotism, but I'd argue that both Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase Jr. are qualifying candidates for being awarded spots in a company regardless of merit based solely on the legacies their fathers and relatives have made previously.

Neither Cody Rhodes nor Ted DiBiase, Jr. are examples of nepotism at all. Their fathers were not on the booking staff when they were pushed as The Legacy.

They are nothing more than examples of WWE trying to take advantage of their heritage. Of course, it doesn't always work out as shown by the two wrestlers who tried to get into the group but were fired from the organization instead.

Neither, IMO, is much of a talent – certainly no better than a number of other talents in their very own company, worthy of receiving the pushes they've received. They both have the personality of a dial-tone, and neither is very capable of garnering crowd creation, so I'd contend they both should at least qualify as possible applicants.

Their fathers' reputations most certainly helped their careers along, but really it was the pairing with Randy Orton that helped them the most, more than anything else. I'd say they're decent enough wrestlers to be in the middle of the card, but I can't see either of them going higher than that anytime soon, if ever. It pains me to say that as The Million Dollar Man is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time and I really hoped that his son could carry on his legacy in some form.
 
Would be a great choice, as they do live off their family legacy. Though, there are two issues for me with Cody and Ted.

1. They really haven't accomplished that much, really. They were what, tag team champions at best? Sure, they get some political backing, but it isn't as though they were pushed as potential world champions. At least yet. Who knows, maybe this could turn out to be a case of Legacy leading to nepotism

2. Dusty books for FCW, and that's it. Ted doesn't book at all, so it isn't as though they're pushing their sons.

Though, I will admit, Dustin Runnels' first run in WCW was sheer nepotism, so Dusty has had a hand in it. And, from what we've seen with Shane, Steph and Vince, the WWE is quite filled with nepotism

Neither Cody Rhodes nor Ted DiBiase, Jr. are examples of nepotism at all. Their fathers were not on the booking staff when they were pushed as The Legacy.

They are nothing more than examples of WWE trying to take advantage of their heritage. Of course, it doesn't always work out as shown by the two wrestlers who tried to get into the group but were fired from the organization instead.



Their fathers' reputations most certainly helped their careers along, but really it was the pairing with Randy Orton that helped them the most, more than anything else. I'd say they're decent enough wrestlers to be in the middle of the card, but I can't see either of them going higher than that anytime soon, if ever. It pains me to say that as The Million Dollar Man is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time and I really hoped that his son could carry on his legacy in some form.

You're both right with regard to direct nepotism where the booker pushed his own off-spring, but I was basing my comments off the general concept of nepotism where someone received a job regardless of merit because of lineage, and not necessarily because that lineage can be tied directly to the booker at the time. Sorry if that de-railed the thread at all.
 
Funny, as soon as I saw the title to this thread, the first name that came to mind was Erik Watts, even before I read the body of the thread. Lol! Watts was god-awful, in and out of the ring. Daddy was a terrible booker, IMO, and that was a down period while he was booking. They had a very deep roster then, but lost a great amount of credibility by making people put Erik over.
 
My first would be the old WCCW. Fritz Von Erich pushed all of his boys hard into the business. Some had talent while others should've been booking or setting up the ring. I have to give Kevin, David, and Kerry their due, they could draw; but they refuse to sell. But pushing Mike and Chris?? These guys never had a chance.

My second would be the AWA in general. First you had Verne who owned the company, yet never trusted anyone with the world title besides himself. He pushed Greg into matches he was clearly not ready for and made other wrestlers sell for a guy 210 lbs at most. Then he put Larry Zbyszko as world champ; where as he married Verne's daughter.

A lot of fathers pushed their sons into the ring where they should have no right to be: Ivan Putzki, Bruno Sammartino, and Ric Flair are prime examples. But these guys didn't use nepotism to get their boys over.

Don't get me started on the McMahons...
 
yeah but world champion these many times? no way, always saw him as an IC champ, but thats about it

I just have to disagree with you. Yeah, maybe not as many times. But consider that Eric Bischoff said way back in WCW/WWF days that the one guy he always wanted to steal from WWF but was unable to get was Triple H. He clearly showed potential. I think to prove that, even with being married to the boss's daughter, I'm not so sure that just anyone can create a legacy for themselves the way Triple H has.

I always saw him as a world champion. Honestly I get frustrated that HHH is always doubted. There's no reason to doubt him. Even without Steph....he's got the look, the wrestling ability, and the mic skills. He's just awesome. Regardless of who he's married to.
 
David Flair, maybe?

I remember first seeing this guy and thinking "this guy is a wrestler? Wait. He sucks. I might be able to...wait! wait! wait! This guy is Ric's kid?"

I think that was my first angry facepalm moment. I just couldn't buy him as a wrestler. Was Flair on the booking team at the time David appeared in WCW for the first time?
 
I was thinking David Flair too so I'll go with my runner up

Shawn Stasiak

I mean really.. what did he have to offer?

I am guessing WWE and WCW hoped he be more like his father. Meat couldn't lace Stans boots. It's hard to tell they are even related.
 
I know this is nowhere near the worst, but it is one of the worst of recent years. Jerry Lawlers kid..... What was his name?? The one that was in Too Cool..... Not Rikishi, or Scotty too Hotty..... The other useless lump..... That's it, Grand Master Sexay!!!!
Frankly, I would have been more convinced if Scotty and Rikishi teamed with Head that Al Snow used to carry around
 
If we're gonna talk straight father to son nepotism, then I would have to say Scott Putski. Yeah his dad was built like a brick shithouse, but it was pale in comparision. Not that Ivan himself had a repitoire that was extensive, but I guess when you look at Ivan, you would like to think that at least son would like to best his father. The same would go for David Sammartino.....but David Flair and the whole Stacy Kiebler experiment. Lord.....:banghead:


Now, for "relative" nepotism.....HORACE "BOULDER" Hogan....if he actually was a nephew. Was nothing like his "uncle", had no skills.....but heaven forbid...was placed in the NWO. Not that the NWO was an elite group of technical wrestlers---but was more charasmatic, but c'mon......Scott Norton? Horace Boulder? Buff Bagwell? ....not exactly the most charasmatic people on TV (which made the group begin to lose credibility anyway..it would have been better if the NWO had kept a core group of maybe 5 people....not adding a new member each week). Just waiting for David Arquette to have a son to replace him as world champ.....then that would be armageddon :rolleyes:
 
There have certainly been a lot of examples in the past where the sons and daughters of legends have been pushed strongly, only to crash and burn. The only three that come to mind right now that were huge successes were the Rock, Bret Hart and Randy Orton. I can't really think of anyone else who reached that level of success and rightfully so.

Now, Ted DiBiase Jr. and Cody Rhodes do have some promise. They're both currently in the mid-card and that's where they should both stay for the time being. Although we haven't seen a lot from him, Joe Hennig can go as well.

But it seems that with every wrestler from the past that is considered a legend, promoters think their offspring can be just as talented, if not more so. Examples include David Sammartino, David Flair, Scott Putski, Brian Lawler, Shawn Stasiak, Greg Gagne, Mike Von Erich and Erik Watts. There's probably a lot more where that come from.

I guess the logic is that every son or daughter of a legend will be the next Orton, Hart or Rock. Unfortunately, those instances are few and far between.

Another thing, there was a stable in early TNA consisting of Brian Lawler, David Flair and Erik Watts called Next Generation. It's funny how long before Legacy, TNA attempted something similar with possibly the worst choices imaginable.
 
Seeing as Tenta hasn't specified that the nepotism has to be family and not including close friends, I got a couple examples for you:

1. Hulk Hogan: Yes I'm going to catch hell for this, but I've never been a fan of his work. Most matches consisted of the following: Quick show of Hogan power, the beat down of Hogan, the Hulk-up, the "YOU!", a couple moves, boot, leg drop, pin. But he was pushed to the moon by promoters even though his in-ring abilities were limited and his promos were worse.

2. Ultimate Warrior: On Hogan's level of in-ring work and slightly better, albeit unintelligible, promos. Loved because he was a big musclebound guy that just ran wild in the ring.

3. Ted Jr.: He's taking on his daddy's persona and putting a rather raunchy twist on it. Would he be pushed if Dad wasn't friends with Vince? I don't think so.

4. Abyss as Hogan clone: Abyss seems to be turning heel and against Hogan. Good. Now he'll go back to upper mid-card where he should be.

5. Sting: This guy stopped getting it done well in the ring a while ago as well. He's got to be friends with someone to still have a job.
 
I have to go with Erik Watts. The first name that popped into my head was Von Erich, considering Fritz owned WCCW, and wasn't just a booker...but the Von Erichs could actually wrestle. Of course Fritz gave them the spotlight, but their insane feud with the Fabulous Freebirds is remembered because of the merits of the feud, not because Fritz put his sons in it. The Von Erichs certainly got all of the advantages of being the son of the owner, but they backed it up with legit in-ring ability...(note, when I think of the Von Erichs, I am only thinking of David, Kevin and Kerry)

Erik Watts however, was a nothing. Accomplished nothing. Earned nothing. Paid no dues. He was given his spot by his dad, and did absolutely nothing with it. He was a complete waste of space.
 
I'd say Erik Watts but that's a broken record at this point, so I'll go with the closest runner up for the worst case of nepotism in wrestling history, and that would be the case of Verne Gagne and his sons. Nevermind that Verne himself was one of the most boring wrestlers to ever live and that he held his own promotion's world title for year after year, and then skipped over HULK FUCKING HOGAN to put the belt on one of his kids, who was just as inept and poor in the ring as his father. I'd say history got Verne back on that one though as Hogan went on to become the biggest draw in wrestling history while Verne and his sons continued to wrestle in Minnesota gymnasiums in front of 300 people before finally being put out of their misery and debt when the AWA folded. I'd say Verne got what was coming to him there.

God I hate the Gagne family. Talentless hacks, every last one of them, and Verne practically wrote the definition to the term "nepotism" in the professional wrestling business.
 
I've just thought of another one that has yet to be mentioned.....

And I expect to get some heat for this..... Especially from TNA marks (which kinda gives this one away).........

Jeff Jarrett!!!!

He was pushed way too much in USWA. This lead to being a 6 time IC champ in WWE, 4 time world champion in WCW, and now being the owner of TNA. Thank God he only has had daughters lol that way he can't do the same as his dad
 
I have a new one for y'all, Carlito. I am a fan of his but it's time to keep it real.

He made his debut in 2000. He's an 11 time.. 11 time..11 time World Wrestling Council Heavyweight champion. He was only there 4 years. His father owns that promotion btw and had only just given up the same title 2 months earlier. His father has quite the uh.. history as well

People wonder why Carlito acted the way he did, but look at his fathers 'accomplishments'

# World Wrestling Council

* NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[Note 1]
* WWC Hardcore Championship (2 times)
* WWC North American Heavyweight Championship (8 times)
* WWC North American Tag Team Championship (11 times) – with Miguel Perez (2), Jose Rivera (2), Gino Caruso (1), Bob Ellis (1), Victor Jovica (1), Chief Thunder Cloud (1), Huracán Castillo (1), Eric Froelich (1), and Invader I (1)
* WWC Puerto Rico Heavyweight Championship (9 times)
* WWC Universal Heavyweight Championship (26 times)
* WWC World Junior Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
* WWC World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
* WWC World Tag Team Championship (3 times) – with Jose Rivera (1), Pedro Morales (1), and Invader I (1)
* WWC World Television Championship (4 times)

He's worse than Jerry Lawler and his USWA reigns but I digress, back to Carlito


He won the US title on his smackdown debut from John Cena

He won the intercontinental championship in his Raw Debut.

He used to be Cena's papi, and his boy Jesus shanked SuperCena in a club.

Him and his brother are the first Unified Tag Team Champions in WWE


He's lazy as hell in the ring. Even Ric Flair called him out on that. It wasn't supposed to be a shoot but either Flair felt that way, or WWE creative had him say it, and it was true.

Threw a hissy fit before wrestlemania 23 saying he wasn't being booked properly? He was being mentored and tagging with Ric Flair at that time by the way..

After jobbing to HHH he asked for his release. Perhaps the first time, definately not his last time pulling that stunt. Although.. I'd be mad too, but everyone jobs to the Game, it's part of the job. Just ask Stephanie :)

I'd go on but I'd be here all day. Spoiled brat piece of monkey crap expecting to be handed everything without having to pay dues.
 

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