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What now for the undertaker?

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Once this feud blows over between taker and michaels, who is their for taker to feud with? Well in my opinion, before taker hangs up his boots for good, he has a few options. Firstly, a feud with jericho. The reason why I say jericho is because the storyline would fit perfectly for him. Think about it, jericho is currently in a storyline to take out the Hall of Famers therefore who better to take out next than the big dog himself, the undertaker. That's one prospect. Another is Cena. The reason for this is taker has feuded with all the huge stars that have walked into the wwe/f. The rock, austin, hunter, kane and the list goes on. But the man he hasn't feuded with is cena. I know he had a small feud with him back in 2003, but that was when cena was just a rookie. Now that he has become the face of the business, this would be an ideal opportunity to box office the next wrestlemania unless the rock takes up cena's challenge (which is highly unlikely).
The final and probably the most likely opponent for the undertaker's last feud will be none other than the big red machine, kane. I read a few threads that taker wants kane to be his last opponent before he retires. Whether this is true or not, it is likely that these titans will clash one more time before either one of them calls it a day. But for that to happen, kane would need to get into better shape, which I think he will when the time comes. Another taker/kane feud will be the cherry on the cake for both "brothers", it's been 5 long years since these two have had a feud so I can't wait for the final bout when it comes. I think for this last feud, a story should be plotted out for kane to return with the mask at that years wrestlemania and fight it out one last time in reminiscent to the awesome match at WM XIV. God I wish I was one of the members of wwe's creative team as I would make all these feuds awesome.
As for michaels, I think his final match, if it is at next years WM 26, will be against hunter (I'm quite positive). Anyway what do guys think in terms of the next step for taker and to a small degree, michaels?
 
I really think Michaels and Triple H as well as Cena and Taker at next years Mania would be two really classic bouts worthy of the card. Good booking man. As far as next, it depends on the draft but getting a fued for Jericho in over the summer is the direction I would go to keep him hot and then I'm thinking one or both of the Hardy Boys in some sort of three way feud. I have a vision for how that would go down but without getting into too much detail, Undertaker brings guys up to mainevent level and the Hardy's need that rub now more than ever.
 
Taker should step out of the title picture. The guy has had many go's at it and doesn't need to be given any other titles while worthy wrestlers lose their primes waiting for him to retire. I have a lot of respect for Taker and his match at Mania still shows he's got it, but over 18 years, I think we've seen enough of him as a champion. He should spend the next year or two he's got left on Smackdown, being a big fish in the smaller pond, helping to push the next generation of guys. He should be used as a stepping stone. This isnt to mean that he should be everyone's bitch...you can lose a feud to Taker and get over. I think Mania was the peak of his second wind as a top guy, and he should just bow out a little bit, and help the company showcase the younger guys a little more.
 
Actually I'm pretty sick and tired of the Undertaker. The WWE is so fucking horrible at creating new talent they still have 40+ year old men main eventing PPV's. Taker as good as he is needs to retire this year period. The man has headlined WrestleManias and Smackdown for the last 5 years. We need some new guys to take their spots. Besides Taker's health is going downhill so he has to retire. And I believe that people watch Smackdown just for Taker. Now isn't that kind of pathetic? We live in 2009 and we still want to watch some guy who debuted in the 90's. But I dont blame you the casual fans. I blame the WWE for being the stupid fucktards that they are for not pushing younger guys. And pushing the wrong people i.e CM Punk.
 
Chris Jericho and John Cena are really the only two major names in the WWE that Taker hasn't really had any sort of feud with. He had a few matches with Cena not long after he first came to WWE television, but that's been around 2003. I can't really remember anything with him and Jericho. Given Jericho's angle of going after the legends of the business, I can see a possible interest in him going after Taker. He's feuded with Shawn Michaels so that's done and Taker is, hands down, the most respected guy in the WWE locker room.

I'd say it'll still be a few years before Taker hangs up the tights. I wouldn't be surprised if his 20th WrestleMania appearance turns out to be his last match. Twenty just seems like a hearty, good round number to finish out WM with. One reason why he still gets pushed is he's one of the most popular guys on the roster, it's simply how it is. Part of the reason why the 40+ guys are getting pushes are because most of the young guys in the locker room can't carry their jocks, let alone take their places. Taker and HBK, in my view, put on the best match in WM history. As long as Taker can keep making the fans care about seeing him, which means he's staying relevant, then he'll be around as long as he wants.
 
Undertaker has been around for what seems forever, and he has worked with pretty much every big name on the roster. For this reason, it's very difficult to figure out what to do with him. Feud with Edge? Check. Feud with Big Show? Check. Feud with Orton? Check. Feud with Batista? Done to death. The only thing I can think of is him ending up on the same brand as Cena and a feud over the World Title. However I think Taker's time chasing titles is done and may only get one more shot when he gets close to retirement for one more run with it.

I'm really having a hard time thinking of something for Taker to get involved in. Because really he's only had a couple of different types of feuds in recent years. He's either feuded with someone over the title, feuded with someone who cost him the title, or feuding with someone over his Wrestlemania streak. I haven't seen anything storyline that is fresh or new that involves him, and to be honest, I think it's time to think up a new storyline for him.
 
Now hopefully a high profile feud with Chris Jericho. They`d do great together and it will be fresh.
 
A fued with Jericho would be great for him and Jericho. Jericho's recent storyline has been destroying the legends and Undertaker could be the next one. Jericho hasnt had any decent opponents for like,.... at least 2 months as 60 year olds dont count so this is something fresh for him to run with and with Undertaker also involved it could be one hell of a fued, would be so fucking sweet!!

Jericho being drafted to Smackdown definatly throws this idea in the air and it could come to fruition... Although WWE tends to not do what the IWC would love to see!
 
That's the thing, taker can't feud with cena until cena loses his title or it will become another title feud and if one of the matches are at WM then obviously taker will win the title. I agree with you guys, taker's time is up in terms of feuding over championship belts and I think he knows that but what do you guys think of taker/kane feud later on down the line (probably taker's last feud)?
 
I would like to see the brothers of destruction one last time and since Kane is on smackdown now it could happen.
 
I'd like to see him participate in a long feud with somenody like CM Punk. I'd like to see him do for Punk what he tried to do with Kennedy. A long feud where they're presented as equals. Possibly over CM Punk's newly won world title. The outcome being that Punk, or whoever, is then an established main event wrestler. If it wasn't for injuries the same probably would have happened to Kennedy.

But that won't happen. The best thing for him to do is take some time off until SummerSlam.
 
I would say, because jericho has been drafted to smackdown, he will be the next opponent for taker. And it looks like smackdown may turn out to be the #1 show in the upcoming 4-6 months.
 
I think now there is some great options after the draft for people to fued with taker.
First off all Taker vs Jericho would be interesting and fresh seeing Jericho is on this rampage of destroying legends.Another fued although it's been done already over a million times is taker vs Kane hopefully this storyline would lead to both of these guys benifiting and Kane getting one last push.There is also the option of Taker vs Hardy these two had a fantastic ladder match on raw in 02(i think)this would be a fresh ove for both stars as both of them have not fueded against wrestlers of thier styes for a while.And sure we could have Taker vs Edge again..

Ok so as you can see there is about a years worth of storylines in there so there is still plenty more options for the phenom
 
tyburna said:
Because really he's only had a couple of different types of feuds in recent years. He's either feuded with someone over the title, feuded with someone who cost him the title, or feuding with someone over his Wrestlemania streak. I haven't seen anything storyline that is fresh or new that involves him, and to be honest, I think it's time to think up a new storyline for him

Lol, hasn't that been Taker's whole deal since he debuted? Title fued, someone fucks with him for some reason, WM streak and thrown in a fued because Teddy Long likes to try and put cocky rookies in their place by making them fight Taker. His only other storylines were either as the American Bad Ass ie protecting his wife, or fighting Vince for some reason. Everything else he's ever done stoylinewise has been when he was a heel, so there's your answer dude. Taker needs a heel turn.

Crush The World Down said:
Now isn't that kind of pathetic? We live in 2009 and we still want to watch some guy who debuted in the 90's.

And people still want to watch Hulk Hogan and he debuted when exactly? When he debuted is irrelevant, the fact that he still draws after 20 odd years is the key point. Do you think it's pathetic that people still want to watch HBK or HHH or SCSA or Sting or Mick Foley or Booker T? All guys who debuted in the 90's and even before that in a couple of instances.

I'd like to see Taker fued with Christian or John Morrison next. We'll get the Cena and Jericho fueds soon enough and probably another Edge and Kane fued each, one more brief title run as well i expect, and then he'll get screwed out of that, have one more 'you screwed me out of the title' fued and then retirement i imagine.
 
as for singles wrestling, i think 'taker should either be back on the title chase(after either the whc or wwe title returns to SD!) and in the course of it feud with kane or he might feud with jericho later this year or even early next year wich could culminate into a wm26 streak match but that's just my fantasy running...he'll most probably have a title run...

as for tag team, if he joins with kane, i think the only team thy can feud with might be edge and jericho since during the draft, after jericho was drafted to SD! and he and edge stare each other down, i believe it was josh matthews who said that these wo are familiar with each other from the past so they might team up
 
Taker has a lot of options on Smackdown. We've already seen Edge/Taker, so I don't think they should go that route.

Mike Knox - Possibility, but I think he'd be better suited to feud with R-Truth.

Kane - Seen it a million times. Plus, Taker will probably want to retire in a feud with Kane, so I think they should put it off until then.

Mysterio - Can't see that working out well.

Shelton - They had 2 very good matches together. I think it would help boost Shelton's credibility. But...would it be better to have Shelton/Taker, or Shelton/Hardy, or Shelton/Punk, or Shelton/Mysterio? Hard to choose.

Punk & Hardy - Too many heels to feud with. Undertaker can have his matches with them at different times. They're the three top faces on the brand, with lots of people to account for, so no, not yet.

MAIN THREE PEOPLE TO CHOOSE FROM: Jericho, Morrison, Umaga

Now, there are three sections of the year to account for. Summerslam, Survivor Series, and now. As, generally, you could assume that the Undertaker won't be in a feud during the Royal Rumble, and he'll be in something very important for WrestleMania that doesn't necessarily dictate him having to feud with people currently on the brand.

So my suggestion is:

1. For the Backlash/Judgment Day/Extreme Rules/Great American Bash section of the year, you have him feud with John Morrison. This helps boost Morrison's credibility so he can feud with Punk and Hardy (remember...they're the top two faces on the brand now) over whatever championship they end up getting on Smackdown.

2. For Summerslam, you go with Jericho. That's the biggest feud out of all of them.

3. For Survivor Series, you go with Umaga. Neither guy really fits well on a 5-man team, so you can use this as a gimmick match (cage match or something) for the rest of the card. If you imagine that there's 3 championships matches, 2 "traditional SS" matches, then you've got an Undertaker/Umaga match as well.


So yeah. Undertaker/Morrison. If they play their cards right, they could even capitalize on the "new HBK" identity that Morrison basically has. Undertaker can cut a promo talking about how Morrison pisses him off because he reminds him of Shawn Michaels. Morrison starts using the superkick as a regular move. Preliminary way to book HBK/Morrison at some point.
 
I read a report on wrestlingnewsworld.com today that said the WWE has prepared a Rest In Peace tour in November to retire the Undertaker. My only questions are: Who deserves the right to retire the Undertaker, and what kind of angle will the WWE prepare for his retirement.

Personally, I would have to have Kane retire the Undertaker. The two have been involved with each other off and on for over 10 years. He debuted costing the Undertaker his win in the first HIAC in one of the most explosive WWE debuts I have ever seen. Since then, the duo has had 3 tag championships together, and have faced each other in 2 Wrestlemania matches.

If I were a member of the WWE creative team I would start a feud between the two now, before either of them get involved in a horrible feud with a upper-mid level star. Start off with a match at Judgement Day and have the feud continue to Survivor Series with a Hell In A Cell. Kane will win the match and have him kayfabe kill the Undertaker again. They should also retire the HIAC with the Phenom, since its basically his match, outside of the few that HHH had been involved in.
 
I read a report on wrestlingnewsworld.com today that said the WWE has prepared a Rest In Peace tour in November to retire the Undertaker. My only questions are: Who deserves the right to retire the Undertaker, and what kind of angle will the WWE prepare for his retirement.

Personally, I would have to have Kane retire the Undertaker. The two have been involved with each other off and on for over 10 years. He debuted costing the Undertaker his win in the first HIAC in one of the most explosive WWE debuts I have ever seen. Since then, the duo has had 3 tag championships together, and have faced each other in 2 Wrestlemania matches.

If I were a member of the WWE creative team I would start a feud between the two now, before either of them get involved in a horrible feud with a upper-mid level star. Start off with a match at Judgement Day and have the feud continue to Survivor Series with a Hell In A Cell. Kane will win the match and have him kayfabe kill the Undertaker again. They should also retire the HIAC with the Phenom, since its basically his match, outside of the few that HHH had been involved in.

Seen as though kane and jericho were drafted to smackdown, I would say that taker will be feuding with either of them at some point during the retirement tour. I would definitely say taker and kane at WM 26. But back to your idea of a kane/taker fued right now, well I think after taker returns from his brief brake, the creative team should start a feud between jericho and the undertaker. Then at survivor series time, kane should be the next opponent. As for the person to induct the dead man, I would be surprised if it isn't paul bearer or kane, depending on whether he faces taker at WM26. I suppose it is the right time for taker to retire as he doesn't have anyone other huge star to face (with the exception of cena). But I hope that down the line taker has a small feud with cena.
 
If the reports are true and Taker is indeed retiring at WM26 then I am all for a Jericho Summerslam fued, Umaga SS fued, Punk RR fued and cap it all off at Mania against Kane in a Casket match.

For the WM match have the druids bring out a second casket in the go home sequence and have Taker tombstone Kane and then close the casket and hop into the other casket and close the lid himself after the bell is rung. Or after the match have the lights go out as Taker "celebrates" then when the lights come on again in Taker fashion have him be sitting in the casket in the middle of the ring, do the throat slash/eye roll and close the lid.
I prefer the second finish which I think would be a fitting way to end both careers and put a full stop on one of wrestling most storied relationship/fued.
Make the most out of him by putting over some new talent before a picture perfect end to his career as well as Kanes.
 
If the reports are true and Taker is indeed retiring at WM26 then I am all for a Jericho Summerslam fued, Umaga SS fued, Punk RR fued and cap it all off at Mania against Kane in a Casket match.

For the WM match have the druids bring out a second casket in the go home sequence and have Taker tombstone Kane and then close the casket and hop into the other casket and close the lid himself after the bell is rung. Or after the match have the lights go out as Taker "celebrates" then when the lights come on again in Taker fashion have him be sitting in the casket in the middle of the ring, do the throat slash/eye roll and close the lid.
I prefer the second finish which I think would be a fitting way to end both careers and put a full stop on one of wrestling most storied relationship/fued.
Make the most out of him by putting over some new talent before a picture perfect end to his career as well as Kanes.


they can also have a buried alive match where one of them is placed on the hole and the other pulls the lever to bury the other and gets in the hole and when whatever is covering the hole is almost done, they both stick their hands out, close their fists and lower their arms representing the end...that would be epic...or maybe have other talent interfere throw both of them in the hole and bury them
 
Actually I'm pretty sick and tired of the Undertaker. The WWE is so fucking horrible at creating new talent they still have 40+ year old men main eventing PPV's. Taker as good as he is needs to retire this year period. The man has headlined WrestleManias and Smackdown for the last 5 years. We need some new guys to take their spots. Besides Taker's health is going downhill so he has to retire. And I believe that people watch Smackdown just for Taker. Now isn't that kind of pathetic? We live in 2009 and we still want to watch some guy who debuted in the 90's. But I dont blame you the casual fans. I blame the WWE for being the stupid fucktards that they are for not pushing younger guys. And pushing the wrong people i.e CM Punk.
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No he doesn't need to retire. You need to retire from being a dumbass poster.
Taker is gonna headline as much as they want him becuz he is still one of their biggest draws. & Nobody will take Taker's spot either once he leaves..... He's got his Legacy cemented.
& Yes people do watch Smackdown just for Taker.
Dont blame the WWE for being smart & realizing that none of the lower card guys aren't doing anything. If they were that good the WWE wouldn't have to go out of their way to push anybody.

As far as what now for The Undertaker, I think he will probly fued with Jericho.
 
they can also have a buried alive match where one of them is placed on the hole and the other pulls the lever to bury the other and gets in the hole and when whatever is covering the hole is almost done, they both stick their hands out, close their fists and lower their arms representing the end...that would be epic...or maybe have other talent interfere throw both of them in the hole and bury them

I was going to suggest an outside interference but I thought it would cheapen things a bit. I liked the idea of Taker going out on his own according, shutting the lid on his own career. However if they wanted to keep the streak alive and still have some one put over by ending the Deadmans career at Mania then the interference could work.
Would be better for building someone up but might dampen the retirement a little.
 
I am surprised more people aren't mentioning Mike Knox. He is relatively big, sure not as big as the Taker, but a very believable opponent. Plus, I have to admit the Undertaker is far from fresh. His character is beyond stale, that's not to say I'm not a fan. I always look forward to the Undertaker's feuds. As redundant as they are, I still find them entertaining and love the vintage Phenom in the modern era.

On a side note, people talk about Kane's character being stale, but at least Kane gets a new storyline every now and then, for example the storyline with Rey Mysterio. I feel that all of Undertaker's storylines are either, as people have mentioned feuds over the title, or somebody stepping up to try and stop his undefeated streak.

Then there's the very famous, young cocky guy stepping up, attacking the Taker, injuring him, watching Taker disappear for a month or two and then coming back to get revenge and bury his opponent who once dominated him. How many times have we seen that? Heck, there was Heidenreich. There was the Great Khali. It was done twice with Mark Henry. Randy Orton's feud with the Undertaker seemed to stretch out all year because Orton was constantly doing something heinous to take him out only for the Undertaker to constantly miss a month and return at the next PPV to kick Orton's ass, etc. etc.

This is exactly the storyline they should do with Mike Knox. Why Mike Knox? Well, it would be a huge impact immediately for Knox on Smackdown!. It would probably be the most legitimate way to put Knox over as a threat. Have Knox go undefeated for about about two months. When the Taker returns, Mike Knox isn't hurt at all by losing to the Taker and benefits miles just by being in the ring with him. And assuming WWE ends it right there and doesn't bury Knox in one match after another after that then Knox will be ok.

It would've worked for Mark Henry but as soon as Taker came back, Henry lost. But it didn't stop there. Henry wound up losing to the Taker over and over seemingly every week for the course of the month, and by the end of the month Henry seemed like a little pushover who was frankly dominated by the Undertaker and losing in matches less than 5 minutes. Henry was buried for no real reason and then had his career saved by ECW.
 
I would Love to see a Jericho vs Undertaker Feud start soon and have a big match at summerslam one of there big ppv's of the year,I think they would put on a great match and it would be fresh they just need to stop with big show vs undertaker and no more undertaker vs edge for awhile. But with jericho being all cocky right now and saying he can beat any legend i would find it fitting to have him face the biggest legend in the game that is still wrestling right now and that's the undertaker
 
Jericho is the obvious answer and I hope to see that come Summerslam. A guy I'd really like to see Taker feud with is Umaga. Taker usually feuds with the big guys and Umaga is a big guy with great athletic ability. I think they could put on a stellar match. Kane is another choice, probably towards the end of their careers we see them two have one more go at each other. Cena would work for something like WM. I'd like to see a Punk feud, but with both of them faces that would be doubtful, but still would be pretty good. So for me it comes down to Jericho, Kane, and Umaga. With maybe a small Edge feud just for filler sake, nothing major.
 

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