What is wrong with WWE now days?

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From an overall perspective, I don't see anything wrong with WWE. Sure, there are bits and pieces here and there that I think could be better or, at least, wish they could be better in. That's perfectly natural but I'm a pretty realistic person and tend to look at the world that way. I know that the WWE is never going to be "perfect" because nothing else in this world ever is. Do I wish the Divas & tag team scene in WWE were better and generally more relevant? Sure I do but there's more than enough other good stuff that goes on to make me quite satisfied with WWE as a whole. They still have good wrestling matches, talented wrestlers inside the ring & on the mic, interesting feuds, interesting angles & storylines. At the end of the day, that's what I care about and want to see.

I've read a couple of the posts going on and on about blood & the Attitude Era. The Attitude Era was great for its time but the cold hard truth is that wrestling was a fad once again in the late 90s & very early 2000s. Wrestling was being portrayed on a "mainstream" scale in a way that people had never seen before. It was completely different and it did change the way people looked at wrestling. However, the Attitude Era as a whole wasn't nearly as good as some try to make it out to be or "remember" as it being. Not every match was a classic. Most of the time, wrestling content on Raw during the AE was pretty weak. I wasn't able to watch SD! during that time period as my cable provider at the time didn't have UPN. Not every promo was the stuff that legends were made of by any stretch and there was also a lot of just plain, outright shit that made it onto television. For instance, how often did we see such wastes of time as lingerie matches or pillow fight matches or bikini contests during the Attitude Era between the Divas? It might have been titilating at the time but with the ready availability of internet pornography these days, it wouldn't have a fraction of that sort of impact today. And what about all the other crap that a lot of people seem to conveniently forget to bring up? What about stuff like Al Snow running around with the head of a mannequin tucked under his arm? What about Kaientai "chopping off" Val Venis' dick with a katana backstage? What about all the lousy angles, feuds & matches with the likes of Ken Shamrock, Steve Blackman, the Big Bossman, the Headbangers, Val Venis, Vince McMahon winning the 1999 Royal Rumble, Vince winning the WWF Championship the same year, Chyna becoming Intercontinental Champion, and many many others? Not everything was Austin vs. McMahon or Austin vs. The Rock.

I know a lot of people want to blame WWE's declined ratings compared to a decade or so ago to the PG Era. It's another convenient method of completely ignoring history and looking at the facts. In 2000, the yearly average ratings for Raw & SD! were 5.88 & 4.73 respectively. In 2001, the yearly average dropped to a 4.64 & 4.03. In 2002, they dropped to a 4.01 & 3.52. Finally, in 2003, they dropped to a 3.76 & a 3.30. Raw has been consistently pulling an average in the 3s since that time. When WWF bought WCW in March 2001, the Monday Night Wars came to an end and the ratings began to drop immediately afterward. During these years, WWF was still very much doing the same stuff it'd done during the height of the Attitude Era. We had the cursing in the promos, we had hardcore matches with blood in them, we had Divas running around as nothing more than tits & ass content, we had people being tossed off the top of cages, etc. In a nutshell, all the same stuff that people loved about the Attitude Era in his peak was still in full swing at this time, yet WWF continued to lose viewers. The WWF burned white hot there for a few years before the heat started to steadily dwindle down. That's what happens with fads. They're white hot for a while but the heat eventually dies down.

As for the use of blood, I think people really need to get over this kick. Think of blood as the role of ketchup in a meal of burgers & fries. Everything that makes people interested in seeing the match, the content of the match, the wrestlers involved, etc. that's what the burgers & fries are. The ketchup can potentially add a little spice to the meal but ketchup isn't very filling nor is it a necessary addition to have an ejoyable meal. The WWE has shown time & time again that they can have great hardcore/no holds barred/no DQ matches without the use of blood. The latest example was this past Friday night on SD!. Sheamus & Randy Orton worked their asses off in a physical, competitive no disqualification match. It was a great match because you had two guys in the ring that are good at what they do and can make people want to see them do what they do.

In this day and age where the health & general safety of wrestlers have become prominent discussion tools, especially when you look at how many wrestlers have died prematurely of one thing or another during this past decade, it makes the use of blood kind of unnecessary. Wrestlers in the WWE are often on the road for the vast majority of the year putting their bodies through a rigorous schedule to entertain fans. They endure concussions, torn muscles, severe sprains, broken bones, cuts, bruises and a broad variety of aches & pains that they generally just have to work through. Basically, they put themselves through a lot so the fact that they're not taking shots with steel chairs to the skull or ripping the flesh of their foreheads open with razor blades aren't bad things.
 
WWE shouldn't stop marketing for kids, the PG era has nothing to do with the downfall of WWE. Let me ask you a question, if you had kids would you want them to watch something where they see a blood bath in the middle of the ring, people getting hit with chairs in the head, oh ya, let's promote violence, that's smart. I'm quite tired of hearing "PG is killing WWE" in my mind its saving WWE and many entertainers from serious injury.
 
I think their whole problem is taking the PG thing too far like many say

I mean , sure their whole idea is that they will get more young fans who will watch for life and stuff but what the hell? When I was a kid and it WASN'T PG I was into it and so were all the other kids

I can't even name an instance in which I knew any kid was raised by such freak excuses of parents that they weren't allowed to watch WWF/WCW

This is just them being stupid and over-estimating the living hell out of a very very very VERY small minority of parents
 
I know a lot of people want to blame WWE's declined ratings compared to a decade or so ago to the PG Era. It's another convenient method of completely ignoring history and looking at the facts. In 2000, the yearly average ratings for Raw & SD! were 5.88 & 4.73 respectively. In 2001, the yearly average dropped to a 4.64 & 4.03. In 2002, they dropped to a 4.01 & 3.52. Finally, in 2003, they dropped to a 3.76 & a 3.30. Raw has been consistently pulling an average in the 3s since that time.

I just want to add that those number represent market share. One thing that never gets stated when people try to use ratings as a reason the PG thing sucks is that there are MUCH more channels now than there was 12 years ago. For instance, the NFL Network wasn't around until 2003. They show games on Thursdays in the later half of the season. If they were around in 1999, I promise ya that TNF would've hurt SD's ratings.


The real reason the WWE isn't as popular as it once was because it just isn't. People expect "Attitude Era" numbers, but how fucking stupid is it to have that expectations when it was just a fad? You know, something that only had a limited shelf life before people get bored with it. The Attitude Era was just shock value and visual effects (yes, blood is a visual effect,) How many times can you see a movie that is all visual effects before you get bored with it? Same issue. That is why movies like Transformers can sodomize the other movies one week but then fade away after a few weeks.
 
@gaga777 - about the "freak excuses", personally If I were a parent I would not let my kids watch wwe, if they were still TV-14 why? Because I wouldn't want my kids growing up thinking the world is about sex and bloodbaths, and that is what the WWE use to be, sex and bloodbaths. Is that a freak excuse? Is that me being a bad parent because I wouldn't let them watch it? You tell me
 
I thought that I would give my opinion on this topic. I don't really watch WWE that much anymore, but I will try my best to figure this one out, along with some personal reasons as to why I stopped watching like I use to. I used to be addicted to the WWE when I was a kid, paper championship belts, watching every single WWE(F)/WCW program that was on television.

1. The Internet ruined wrestling personally for me much like reality tv has ruined television in general. Sometimes knowing too much can be a bad thing. I used to be a big fan of Triple H, until I discovered the power struggles that were rumored to be taking place behind the scenes of WWE and how he was somewhat using his power to keep the championship in his hands a couple of years ago. The spoilers, the politics, and everything else that was revealed on the internet put a sour taste in my mouth for wrestling.

2. Wrestling has cycles, and is somewhat a dying breed - It has always been said that wrestling has a certain cycle and hits certain rough spots every now and then. In the 90s wrestling was popular and it was something that everyone wanted to watch. It was fresh, innovative, and compelling television. Now there's UFC, reality television, and other programming options which are hot, and right now wrestling is not on that list. I'm not honestly sure WWE could be as popular as it was back then...

3. Attitude Era - We simply got too much on free tv during this era to the point where it would be hard to satisfy every single one of those fans today. In order to compete with WCW, WWE had to pull out all of the stops and deliver on it's weekly programs and pay-per-views. It was all about the surprise factor and delivering something that the other company couldn't. Now that WWE got past that roadblock they put certain provisions in place to make sure that they don't ever have to fight that hard again. Due to things such as the 90 day clause now, it'd be very difficult to see someone quit WWE on Sunday and end up at the iMPACT! tapings the next day. In a sense we still get too much on free tv and this has killed the concept of pay-per-views because they mean little anymore.

4. Brand Extension - I'm a little biased on this particular one, because I was never a fan of the brand split. However, at the time when WWE purchased WCW and ECW there was a need for the company to split up such a huge roster. Today, they have trimmed the fat a bit, but they still have a particularly huge roster. To me it doesn't make much sense anymore, because I always see WWE promoting a super show that features stars from both RAW and SmackDown! so it pretty much makes no sense anymore. WWE would probably have a solid main event picture, a solid mid-card roster, and even a good lower card. I doubt that this will end anytime soon though.

5. The atmosphere has changed a lot since the Attitude era. Back then, the storylines were memorable, the tag team division was hot, the stars were hot, at the end of RAW and SmackDown! I was left with a cliffhanger wanting to know what would happen next week. I don't get that anymore honestly.

As much as people hate TNA, I am seriously pulling for this company to succeed so that everyone can improve their products.
 
I'm gonna break down your rant bit by bit,alright?

Why is WWE slipping? Why isn't WWE hot like it was in the Austin/Rock/DX era??
Grow up,WWE has evolved because their audience have evolved.It used to be catered to teenagers and young adults who want violence on top of violence.Now it's catered to younger children and families who prefer less bloodshed,more choreography and likable characters.

Why does vince, or "the powers that be" always want to give a product that they want and not what the people want?
How can that be possible?If it's not something you want,you wouldn't take it.WWE would be out of business if they completely ignored their audience.So please,they're disregarding what YOU want.Don't lump "The People" into your rant.

Hell at least TNA can do something they at least arent PG and still have blood.
So go watch TNA and don't watch the WWE anymore.

Now why doesnt TNA make a serious move?
What do you think they've been trying to do since Day 1?It's not for a lack of trying.They are just inferior to the WWE in almost every way except for the bloodshed.

These people have all been in wrestling for so long that they are just stale with storyline, and its the same circle of people on both sides of the fence that keep this crap going!!
I agree that storylines are stale in the WWE,but that's mostly because Vince started hiring TV writers and not people who have experience writing for pro wrestling.As far as Vince sees it,WWE is just a TV show,like Mad Men or Modern Family.

Ill tell you 1 thing the guys in the back just dont have the balls Rock, Austin and DX all had back in the day and dont have it in their hearts to do their own thing to make something happen. The only guy i can see with any kind of drive is Zack Ryder!! This guy started making his own show on youtube and WWE has actually started taking part in this, see this guy knows that if he didnt do something himself he would never get his break...
You young whippersnappers ain't go no respect for the business and y'all ain't got no backbone anymore.Back in the good ol' days razzlin' was good.Them younglings would go out and make something of themselves!

Now I agree that Ryder is one of the few up-and-coming stars making something for himself,but the truth is,if it wasn't for Cena telling the writers to get Ryder on TV,he'd still be toiling away on Superstars.He has the comic value,but he's only popular because he's doing what the WWE doesn't really want him to do,and he's telling the fans to do so as well.If he didn't have a bunch of catchphrases there wouldn't be any signs on Raw about him. You can work as hard as you want,but if Vince doesn't see you as good enough material,you wouldn't get a shot anyway.Ryder had to do,what,9-10 episodes of Z! True Long Island Stories before he had any TV time on Raw.Before that he was in a Snoop Dogg vignette at Wrestlemania singing Friday by Rebecca Black.The children love Hornswoggle,the men love Zack Ryder and everyone loves Santino.

Now not only is it the company's fault for sucking now days but it's the Wrestlers with no real creative drive that's also killing the program.
I almost agree with that statement.The writing is poor,and the feuds seem to just chug on with little or no direction taken.The last really good feud with Orton vs. Punk,but pro wrestling's been around for a decades.Almost every conceivable storyline has been done,and chances are it's been done to death,but the few that will always work will never go away.I do hate the writing though,it's really boring at times,and even if you miss a show,you're not missing much.Wrestlers also seem generic because they are fed lines by the writers.Nobody tells them to go out and be themselves anymore.John Morrison is a very entertaining gimmick,but not when he's force-fed lines that are lame.

R Truth is just terrible on the mic and has no signs of ever getting better, why is this guy even around?
Oh,I don't know,maybe because he's getting one of the loudest crowd reactions every night?The crowd hates him,and he's very entertaining acting like a deranged guy babbling about conspiracies.The Little Jimmy thing cracks me up,and the audience laughs at his promos as much as they boo him.He's doing very well for himself.

Vince talked to him face to face on RAW and still didnt see how horrible he is. This is almost to much for me, Im starting to get sick of this WWE crap.
Like I said,so go watch TNA and stop watching the WWE.

PS, WWE get rid of some of these PPV's, this is another thing ruining your company, we can watch raw every week to watch what we saw at over The Limit!!!
I agree with this point.Too many PPVs spoils the bunch.PPVs like Over The Limit are unnecessary.

So,do the "people" still hate the WWE?Look,if you're so hung up about the Attitude Era,then just buy a bunch of WWE Classics DVDs and watch them instead of watching Raw.It'll lower a few points on your blood pressure,that's for sure.

I'm getting sick of people that grew up watching the Attitude Era and start bitching because they're so resistant to change.You know what I did what I got bored with the WWE a couple of years ago?I just stopped watching it.You can stop too.It'll save you and I a whole lot of time,saves you from ranting like R-Truth.

The business changes,you can bitch and moan all you want but the truth is you're still watching Raw.If you want to see the 90s rehashed all over again,I'll say this one last time.Go.Watch.TNA.If you just want to rant for the sake of ranting and use your "knowledge" of the Attitude Era to prove that you have some knowledge of pro-wrestling before the PG Era,then just say it.Say "Sometimes Raw is really boring and this week it was 3 hours long,but I watched all 3 hours of it anyway and now I'm complaining about it because I don't want people to think I like this week's show."

Nobody's putting a gun to your head and forcing you to watch the WWE.There are plenty of TV shows on Monday and Friday nights.If you truly dislike the product,then just grab the remote and watch any of the other 200 channels on TV.If you complain about the product being shit and yet still insist on watching it,then I'm afraid you're just lying to yourself so you seem "alternative",or you really like the taste of shit.So don't boo the company,you should be booing yourself.

So please,no more of this nonsensical bullcrap.The only thing missing from this rant is the standard "Cena sucks" paragraph.
 
As everyone should know, times change so does the WWE. People who wishing for the Attitude Era to come back, that's just absurd. Attitude Era was popular, but it's time to move on. It looks like so many people have a nostalgia filter set to a high level. However, what is wrong with the WWE at this time is way too many PPVs, creative team not allowed to be so creative (search David Lagana and I Want Wrestling), and characters not being allowed some freedom into their promos. When Daniel Bryan cut a promo after he was eliminated from NXT, lot of people thought it was great. The reason why, because Bryan spoke from the heart. Same with Joey Styles back in 2006. That's what is wrong with the WWE.
 
The answer is quite simple. The WWE lacks star quality workers for amongst their top guys, only Cena and Randy Orton would be good enough to compete in the attitude era. The WWE has nobody like Stone Cold, The Rock, HHH that headlined cards 10 years ago.

They don't have workers like Bret Hart nor do they have the elite talent like the Undertaker in the early 90's to build around nor do they have Shawn Michaels.

What the WWE needs is a younger guy to emerge to go against Cena and Randy Orton
as their next star, especially if the rumors of Cena's health are true.
 
It isn't the Attitude Era and it will never be the Attitude Era again. Its time for people on this board to get over that. This is yet another Attitude Era thread with a tricky name to lure you I but when you begin to read its all guys saying WWE sucks because no one bleeds. Same old shit.
 
I blame bad, bland writing. The shows each week are monotonous and follow the same format to a tee. I'm not stuck in the Attitude Era, though I will admit it was the greatest time to be a WWF fan, ever.
 
The WWE sucks today for the following reasons
1. Political Correctness when to preoccupied with trying not to offend or upset everybody or product is going to suffer
2. No real competition unless TNA can pull a rabbit out of its ass or ROH gets a break things will continue to be hum drum
3. The writers they need more wrestling orientated writers in addition to shit canning all of the wanna be Hollywood writers
4. Too many ppvs to 5 a year it'll give time for feud buildups and make the ppvs more special
5. Let the wrestlers wrestle allot of these guys and gals are good wrestlers but just aren't allowed to show it due to all the damn restrictions placed on them
6. When they started forsaking wrestling for this entertainment bullshit
7. Same old people in the title scene with a few exceptions it's been basically Cena, Orton, Edge (until he retired), Rey Mysterio, Undertaker, Big Show, Kane, and HHH for the last seven years time to inject the main event scene with some new blood
8. They've allowed their tag team division to crumble to the point to where they have to throw random wrestlers together a far cry from the days of The New Age Outlaws, LOD, Demolition etc
9. No cruiserweight division with the influx of smaller guys in the WWE currently the cruiserweight championship would be perfect for them to showcase their talent
10. As mentioned before the talent needs to be allowed to be themselves on the mike Vince needs to stops micromanaging every little thing.
 
The problem is that WWE is a publicly traded company, forcing them to focus on profit above all else.

Yeah I've got to agree with this, it all comes down to money. I have to admit the PG product is at times, lame. Take NXT for example.. But a company will do whats best for the company, end of story. There's been a vaste amount of changes to the WWE business landscape over the past decade and the product simply dictates these changes. If you're looking for some blood and 'attitude' stick to TNA (or Impact, or whatever its called now..) No wait, I'm lying, don't do that :disappointed:
 
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