WHAT IS teh MEANING OF THIS?!
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klunderbunker
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For the love of god.
Show me ONE FUCKING TIME WHERE I SAID 7/7 WAS A GOOD THING. Did I ever say that 56 people dying meant nothing? Say it with me kids: NO I DIDN'T. For the love of all things good and holy will you pay attention?
Yes, 7/7 was a tragic thing that never should have happened. Yes, it changed a lot of things. Yes, if someone did the same thing that Brad did but about 7/7, I'd ban their ass too. No, no family should ever have to go through that. Now, if you had paid attention to what I said instead of jumping up and saying how offensive I was being, you would see that I said more people died in NYC and that it had a bigger impact. Now, when any of you can refute that, let me know.
Show me ONE FUCKING TIME WHERE I SAID 7/7 WAS A GOOD THING. Did I ever say that 56 people dying meant nothing? Say it with me kids: NO I DIDN'T. For the love of all things good and holy will you pay attention?
Yes, 7/7 was a tragic thing that never should have happened. Yes, it changed a lot of things. Yes, if someone did the same thing that Brad did but about 7/7, I'd ban their ass too. No, no family should ever have to go through that. Now, if you had paid attention to what I said instead of jumping up and saying how offensive I was being, you would see that I said more people died in NYC and that it had a bigger impact. Now, when any of you can refute that, let me know.
It's the way you are coming across that is offending me. You never said that it was tragic before, all you did was point out that less people died in the UK than in the US. I know that you are pointing out facts but the point remains the same. It sounded as though you were trying to play down the importance of those deaths because it was far less than the amount who died in 9/11.
And you don't have to treat us like idiots.
And you don't have to treat us like idiots.
Luther_Hull
Cunt.
To be fair, 7/7 had a bigger impact in Britain.
Well Dave, by definition 7/7 was a less important event than 9/11. You can't really debate that. 56 dead people is also a tragic thing, and not to sound offensive and all...but 56 people is not that many. More people than that are killed everyday in countries in Africa and the Middle East.
And I don't know about that either Luther. You guys didn't go to any wars over 7/7, but you did join us in going into Iraq/Afghanistan in large part due to 9/11.
And I don't know about that either Luther. You guys didn't go to any wars over 7/7, but you did join us in going into Iraq/Afghanistan in large part due to 9/11.
klunderbunker
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Seems to me that I say it's a big deal right here. Math wise, it was 1/60. Emotionally, there's absolutely no way to judge anything and I'd never attempt to. I would never try to play down the importance of something like 7/7. It obviously didn't hit home to me like it did to someone living in England so maybe I can't relate to it. If I came off as rude or cruel I certainly didn't mean to and I am indeed sorry if that's how it came off. Perhaps this is a better way of saying it: more people's lives were affected by 9/11, but even one is far too many to be affected by acts such as those. Again, in no way at all am I downplaying what happened in London. I'm simply saying that 9/11 had a bigger impact overall because of the amount of people killed.
As for treating people like idiots, I was defending myself by saying I never once said that it wasn't a big deal and I wanted to stop that idea dead before it got rolling as things do around here.
Lee
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To be fair KB said it was a big deal.
And we were already in the war on terrorism fear :/
madrid also gets lost in the mix....historically 9/11 was fricking huge, but 7/7 shouldn't be trivialised....the same happened the other week when polley made a thread about it
And we were already in the war on terrorism fear :/
madrid also gets lost in the mix....historically 9/11 was fricking huge, but 7/7 shouldn't be trivialised....the same happened the other week when polley made a thread about it
Yeah, no doubt. But, this was the first terrorist attack to ever happen in the UK. People were blissfully unaware of terrorism before this and thought that because it was miles away, that they could not be harmed by it. 56 people, although it may not be a lot in terms of how many died in 9/11, it was 56 reminders that terrorism is a very real threat and it showed people that they were very much mistaken in thinking that they could not be harmed by it.
I think what Luther is trying to say is that the United States already knew about the threat of terrorism before 9/11. 9/11 was very traumatic but it only strengthened the US's resolve against terrorism. This was a brand new world for British people and showed them that they had to change. I would say that 7/7 had a bigger impact on people's mindset.
klunderbunker
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The exact, and I do mean exact, same thign could be said for America after 9/11, but with 3000 reminders.
Who was? The UK? Not in Afghanistan or Iraq you weren't, not before 9/11. 9/11 is the reason those two wars exist.
9/11 was the worst terrorist attack in the history of terrorism. I really don't understand why people from the UK make 7/7 out to be this mega-event on par with 9/11. Yeah, it was tragic as hell. Yeah, it was sad as hell that that many people died in a terrorist attack. But guess what? 7/7 doesn't even rank in the top 50 worst terrorist attacks ever, I'm pretty sure it doesn't even fall into the top 100. Tragic, tragic event. Hardly the impact of 9/11.
Lee
Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No it's Supermod!
No I meant 7/7 was as a result of the war on terror, the UK didn't go to war over it as the terrorist organisation that did the bombings were based in....Iraq and Afghanistan.
7/7 had a huge impact in the UK more so than any other one. It's not on par with 9/11 with numbers and world wide importance, but it fricking is here dammit
7/7 had a huge impact in the UK more so than any other one. It's not on par with 9/11 with numbers and world wide importance, but it fricking is here dammit
klunderbunker
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And how do you think we feel about 9/11 Lee? The exact same way you do about 7/7, but your country has seen things like it before. We never had, at least nowhere near that scale or that kind of loss of life.
I agree any terrorist attack no matter how many died is still a big deal. How can you put a price on a human life and say 3000 people are worth more than 56 both are still affecting families everywhere dealing with the loss of loved ones. Also 7/7 bombings were in the London underground which is a pretty big thing in England, not saying 9/11 wasn't as big or bigger their just to different to measure in which was more harmful, but the London Undergroudn is a main form of transportation for people in London.
Making fun of 9/11 is wrong if I made fun of a dead relative of yours would you find that funny. How do you know no one here has lost a loved one to 9/11. So I beleive Bradthegreat should've benn banned for 1 week I do think 2 is ok just not what I would've done.
Making fun of 9/11 is wrong if I made fun of a dead relative of yours would you find that funny. How do you know no one here has lost a loved one to 9/11. So I beleive Bradthegreat should've benn banned for 1 week I do think 2 is ok just not what I would've done.
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