What If...

[Killswitch1337]

Samoa Joe turns out to be a part of Immortal?

While Jeff Jarrett is on his high horse about solidly beating both Joe and Kurt Angle and also effectively getting rid of Sting and Nash, Joe comes right out from under him and "steals" his place in Immortal. By "steals" i mean he has had it but Immortal was leading him on.

Come Turning Point, or even Final Resolution, while Joe is wrestling Jarrett, the ref gets knocked out or is working for Immortal, Immortal comes out and attacks Jarrett giving Joe the win.

This would cause Jarrett to band together with Dixie and attempt to take the company back from Hogan and Bischoff.

People on Jarret/Dixie side could include:
Kurt Angle- Kurt Angle would be an off choice to join, because of the whole Jarrett situation, but would ultimately join the resistance because of Dixie. No matter how much he hates Jarrett.
Jeff Jarrett- obviously w/o Jarrett, this wouldn't work.
The Pope- Pope has been fighting the regime since they came in. It would only be natural for Pope to join in.
Matt Morgan- Since leaving Fourtune, he really has nothing to do, and with his title match against Hardy, he could have a part in this resistance.
Douglas Williams-Since he is on his way out of Fourtune, he could get back at them by going against them.
Hernandez- if Hernandez comes back, he could be the muscle of the group with Matt Morgan.
Matt Hardy- If TNA signs him, he could come in with the argument that he hates what Jeff has become and essentially switching roles from their last angle in WWE.
Mr. Anderson- When he returns, he would be a major player in the resistance because Immortal are the guys who took him out.


Alternatively- Fourtune could turn on Immortal. Obviously Ric Flair has had problems with Hogan in the past, so you know the old saying, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". By infiltrating the regime,he can take it down from the inside. Also he could be mad that their is a group more dominant and effective than his knock-off horseman.

I am welcome to criticism and comments, or if you have any alternate storylines or people that could go well in here that I haven't Mentioned.

 

[PBA_Sensation]

Only problem with this theory is that it doesnt make any sense to do it this way. Just like most of TNA's booking as of late, it doesnt make sense to just get rid of storylines just to make something edgy with a big swerve. Here is why it wouldnt work:

-Joe gets beat up by Jarrett, although he is in the pocket of Immortal... Why would he get the shit beat out of him just to get Jarrett out.

- Jarrett getting booted from a group to side with Dixie? Hasnt this happened before. Only so many times can Jarrett have the same storyline. He is a natural heel, leave him that way

-Angle and Jarrett would NEVER get along with your format. No way could the differences be put aside for that kind of storyline. Damage has been done. Only way this could work is if they end their feud sometime in the future, THEN a Joe/Jarrett switch happens

-Fortune turning would make them face, and there is no way they can be popular, over, and not be heel. The Horsemen were never face until the NWO came around, and no one cared about the Horsemen by then

Everything else sounds good though

 

[wwetv21]

samoa joe sucks!!!! hes 40!!!! and what has he accomplished! rob van dam is younger than him and has accomplished super much and is known as 1 of the greatest wrestlers.
and i would have aj styles save tna from immortal and fortune because he was the 1 who started it all and could say no bodys taking his home. u can have christopher daneils return and help aj get the company that they both built back!!

 

[Find'er Woo'er Ryder]

i like the idea but without jj immortals wouldnt work. i believe that joe should be on team tna and jj should stay with immortals. jj is basically the mouth of the immortals.

 

[justinsayne]

samoa joe sucks!!!! hes 40!!!! and what has he accomplished! rob van dam is younger than him and has accomplished super much and is known as 1 of the greatest wrestlers.

Dude first off Joe is 31, he's still pretty young, and dare I say, in his prime, second RVD is 39 right now, turns 40 in Dec., & "accomplished super much"... dude he's done a lot but the guy has basically made a career out of being a high level mid-carder, yeah he's won the WWE title and the TNA title but that's about it, and before you try and argue it, he NEVER won the ECW title, in WWE he was GIVEN the ECW title, the only thing he accomplished with that title was losing it, so yeah you're wrong about pretty much everything here, perhaps next time you should GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU POST

and i would have aj styles save tna from immortal and fortune because he was the 1 who started it all and could say no bodys taking his home. u can have christopher daneils return and help aj get the company that they both built back!!

Ugh, no, just no, first AJ is already on the side that is in control of TNA, so what you're saying already makes no sense what so ever, and 2- AJ didn't start TNA, Jarrett did, it was his company to begin with, and once again he's a the side that's in control of everything right now

As for the OP, I hate the idea, it makes no sense, Jarrett has burned bridges with just about everyone he would side with, nobody is going to help him or want his help, and Joe is loner, he doesn't do stables well, so yeah it just wouldn't work, and tbh I wouldn't want to see it happen anyways, both Jarrett and Joe are far more effective in the roles they're in now, just leave it be

 

[Tattooed Jesus]

They already did that story with Joe when he joined he MEM, remember? They beat the shit outta him for months and then he ended up being a part of the group, so going along that logic Joe being with them would not surprise me. I mean Abyss beat the shit outta Jeff Hardy for months and now he is the main guy in the Immortals so there is obviously no rhyme or reason to anything TNA is doing right now.

 

[Joeezy^^]

Look folks, this is pretty academic. Everything is fine as how it is. Since BFG, when JJ fell off that apron, I was like YESSSSSS. Im sick and tired of nice JJ, heel JJ is literally"king of the mountain". For joe, eh. I never really liked the whole character thing. I mean the guy is kinda like RVD right now, a high-mid carder. His in ring talent is superb, and thts what TNA needs to expand on not his character.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Too many turns here. Maybe Jarrett or AJ Styles could turn face later on, but everyone turning face or heel right now is too much. Joe has flipped flopped so many times even he doesn't know if he is coming or going. Joe is best used as a loner. He shouldn't be aligning himself with anyone considering the history he has had with teaming up with people.

 

[LegendInTheMakingNB]

@ wwetv21: in addition to what justinsayne said, Joe's been every kind of champion one can possibly be in TNA, be it a championship belt or a tournament win or a trophy - and all of them at once during the time that he was feuding with Kurt Angle. There isn't anything he HASN'T done. So I like to think he HAS accomplished something in the 11 years that he has been an active wrestler.

Back to the original post, I kinda like the idea except I think that it is time for Joe to actually remain a face for a while. If it wasn't for the fact that Nash and Sting are all but done, I'd say they should be the leaders of the resistance, with Sting able to put an end to the story angle he had started with Dixie months ago. He'd be there to tell Dixie "he told her so" about all the corruption he was talking about that involved Hogan and Bitchoff. That would be perfect right there. From there, the resistance forms with some obvious members and starts whoopin' some ass!

 

[PWE!-"THE ALPHA MAN"]

Samoa Joe turns out to be a part of Immortal?

While Jeff Jarrett is on his high horse about solidly beating both Joe and Kurt Angle and also effectively getting rid of Sting and Nash, Joe comes right out from under him and "steals" his place in Immortal. By "steals" i mean he has had it but Immortal was leading him on.

Come Turning Point, or even Final Resolution, while Joe is wrestling Jarrett, the ref gets knocked out or is working for Immortal, Immortal comes out and attacks Jarrett giving Joe the win.

This would cause Jarrett to band together with Dixie and attempt to take the company back from Hogan and Bischoff.

People on Jarret/Dixie side could include:
Kurt Angle- Kurt Angle would be an off choice to join, because of the whole Jarrett situation, but would ultimately join the resistance because of Dixie. No matter how much he hates Jarrett.
Jeff Jarrett- obviously w/o Jarrett, this wouldn't work.
The Pope- Pope has been fighting the regime since they came in. It would only be natural for Pope to join in.
Matt Morgan- Since leaving Fourtune, he really has nothing to do, and with his title match against Hardy, he could have a part in this resistance.
Douglas Williams-Since he is on his way out of Fourtune, he could get back at them by going against them.
Hernandez- if Hernandez comes back, he could be the muscle of the group with Matt Morgan.
Matt Hardy- If TNA signs him, he could come in with the argument that he hates what Jeff has become and essentially switching roles from their last angle in WWE.
Mr. Anderson- When he returns, he would be a major player in the resistance because Immortal are the guys who took him out.


Alternatively- Fourtune could turn on Immortal. Obviously Ric Flair has had problems with Hogan in the past, so you know the old saying, "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". By infiltrating the regime,he can take it down from the inside. Also he could be mad that their is a group more dominant and effective than his knock-off horseman.

I am welcome to criticism and comments, or if you have any alternate storylines or people that could go well in here that I haven't Mentioned.

First of all I am not a big fan of this "Immortal" faction due to alot of reasons i just don't wish to go into but the last thing Total Non Stop Action needs at this time is swerves

somewhere along the line someone told head office that shockvalue and crash T.V Makes for compelling viewing but it doesn't. I would be good to see Total non stop action not create a stable every once and a while. I Wish this product would learn that sometimes "simple" is the best direction to go in.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Well, aside from it not making any sense, TNA has a shortage of strong faces right now with much of the best and/or biggest names working as heels and being part of the Immortal/Fortune alliance. The strongest faces left in TNA at this point are Ken Anderson, Kurt Angle & Rob Van Dam. Anderson's still out hurt for a little while, Kurt Angle is on vacation so that pretty much leaves RVD and he just can't do it on his own. I know that TNA probably wants a lot to suddenly jump on board the idea of Matt Morgan as a strong guy, but I don't buy it. He needs to be rebuilt in my view.

Besides, Joe has already done the lame one dimensional thug lackey before and it serves no real purpose in putting him back in that role. Granted, TNA hasn't really done much of anything with Joe that's been worth anything for a while, but I'd simply much rather see him against Immortal than be with them.

 

[ABMorales787]

Yeah. Because it went well the first time they tried it in 2009. People seem to ignore the fact that the idea of the feud Joe has with Jarrett is to put Joe over. If we just got the betrayal of Jarrett, why do we need it from Samoa Joe? "Oh, him throwing me 15 feet from the ramp to solid concrete was just a ploy for... What was it again?"

There is absolutely nothing to gain from this. Absolutely nothing. Hell, there isn't even anybody to screw over.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Yeah. Because it went well the first time they tried it in 2009. People seem to ignore the fact that the idea of the feud Joe has with Jarrett is to put Joe over. If we just got the betrayal of Jarrett, why do we need it from Samoa Joe? "Oh, him throwing me 15 feet from the ramp to solid concrete was just a ploy for... What was it again?"

There is absolutely nothing to gain from this. Absolutely nothing. Hell, there isn't even anybody to screw over.

Yeah, I agree. I don't like the OP's idea. Not one bit. The smartest thing TNA could do right now is lay off the swerves, the plots, the ploys and concentrate on building a powerful face faction to go up against Immortal for a few months. Have your occasional promos, trash eachother, state your motives and wrestle your fucking ass off. Longer matches, good matches, a little drama here, a little drama there, someone jumps ship, the usual stuff. Make this feud simple, we've had enough of over-the-top booking. Show that you can do it all and wrestle, wrestle, wrestle. That's it. Build Mr.Anderson up, plan his glorious win over Jeff Hardy for the title, disband Immortal afterwards, turn the right guys faces and pitch them against eachother. So far we've had complex booking ( which I love ) and little wrestling. Time to change it up. Simple booking and awesome wrestling. Show that you can do it all in 2010 and start off fresh in 2011, knowing which formula is better -- more entertainment, less wrestling/ more wrestling, simple yet creative booking.

 

[bmacklin]

samoa joe sucks!!!! hes 40!!!! and what has he accomplished! rob van dam is younger than him and has accomplished super much and is known as 1 of the greatest wrestlers.
and i would have aj styles save tna from immortal and fortune because he was the 1 who started it all and could say no bodys taking his home. u can have christopher daneils return and help aj get the company that they both built back!!

Uhhh, Joe's 31, not 40, and when did this turn into a Joe bashing thread? Joe is one of the best wrestlers TNA have, having headlined pretty much since his debut. Aside from that Joe shouldn't side with anyone, be more of a lone wolf.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Someone should sticky a note in Vince Russo's office which says no more turns for the next 6 months.

I don't think that this is a great idea. Personally, I like feuds where the older guy gets to be the heel against the young babyface. But the more important point is that with all the comments that he has made towards Kurt and his family I doubt if Jarrett will ever manage to get a positive reaction from the crowd. Kurt is to TNA what Undertaker is to WWE. He is their legend and dissing him would be the last thing you would want to do if you want to turn face.

Plus as I mentioned in my first statement TNA does not need any more swerves. They did one at BFG at whatever any hater may say it caught most by surprise. But that was enough, its now time to tell a riveting story to us fans.

 

[RowdyEddyPiper]

I just can't stand this GIANT stable of Fortune & Immortals. Although I love Fortune as heels rather than faces, I'd like this group to break up. Reminds me too much of the "Corporate Ministry" days.

 

[RowdyEddyPiper]

Dude first off Joe is 31, he's still pretty young, and dare I say, in his prime, second RVD is 39 right now, turns 40 in Dec., & "accomplished super much"... dude he's done a lot but the guy has basically made a career out of being a high level mid-carder, yeah he's won the WWE title and the TNA title but that's about it, and before you try and argue it, he NEVER won the ECW title, in WWE he was GIVEN the ECW title, the only thing he accomplished with that title was losing it, so yeah you're wrong about pretty much everything here, perhaps next time you should GET YOUR FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU POST



Ugh, no, just no, first AJ is already on the side that is in control of TNA, so what you're saying already makes no sense what so ever, and 2- AJ didn't start TNA, Jarrett did, it was his company to begin with, and once again he's a the side that's in control of everything right now

As for the OP, I hate the idea, it makes no sense, Jarrett has burned bridges with just about everyone he would side with, nobody is going to help him or want his help, and Joe is loner, he doesn't do stables well, so yeah it just wouldn't work, and tbh I wouldn't want to see it happen anyways, both Jarrett and Joe are far more effective in the roles they're in now, just leave it be

Thanks for having Joe's back with this one. I'd like to see Joe to get another push but not like that. Although I predict that he'll eventually be apart of some TNA .vs. Immortals stable, I wish he'd dominate the upper card with the "stands-alone" angle.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

I just can't stand this GIANT stable of Fortune & Immortals. Although I love Fortune as heels rather than faces, I'd like this group to break up. Reminds me too much of the "Corporate Ministry" days.

And that's bad ... how exactly? The Corporate Ministry was a great stable.

And oh oh my fucking God would you ALL shut up about Immortal being too big?

Fourtune - AJ styles, Storm, Roode, Doug Williams, Kazarian, Jeff Hardy, Jeff Jarret. Bischoff, Hogan and Flair do not wrestle.

Nexus - Wade Barret, Justin Gabriel, David Otunga, Heath Slater, Skip Sheffield, Husky Harris, Michael McGiggity, John Cena.

By the looks of it, Nexus is pretty fucking huge too. How come noone's bitching THEM out but they bitch Immortal out. Nexus is the best thing WWE came up with in a LONG time, right? How come Immortal gets shit on for forming a huge, intimidating stable and doing it BETTER? And hey, NEWSFLASH, Immortal is full of GREAT wrestlers from top to bottom, Nexus is not. I just don't get it and I never will.

Not saying that you're a WWE fan or anything, I'm just using them as an example. I know WWE fans who shit on TNA here, they shit on Immortal ( you know who you are ) yet praise Nexus. Just sayin'.