What if....WCW had won the "Monday Night Wars"?

[d_henderson1810]

Here again is my continuing series, where I ask the question "what if" things had gone a different way with certain wrestling events.

This week is a question I am sure a few of you have an opinion on ..."What if.... WCW had WON the "Monday Night Wars" instead of WWE?

Let's say that NWO and "Monday Nitro" had beaten WWE, and it was WCW who bought out WWE instead. Let's say Eric Bischoff's gamble paid off. What would have happened to WWE stars? Where would this put Vince McMahon? What do you think WCW would be like right now if they had won the war instead?

 

[TheWrestlo]

Well "Golden Boy" John Cena wouldn't have become relevent

Chavo guerrero probably would have became a world champion, seeing as he had just had a huge feud with shane helms before WWE bought them out.

Eric Bitchoff (no thats not a typo) would be regarded as the "mastermind" that won the monday night wars, and Garrett would have been shoved down our throats a long time ago, that 150 lbs. sack of crap would have had a undeafeted streak that would outlast both goldbergs and Crimsons.

Speaking of Goldberg, he stays relevent till 2005 or around there, then retires like he did at WM XX.

TNA is never created, because its founder, Jeff Jarrett, stays with WCW and becomes a multi time heavyweight champ. Cheating us out of stars such as AJ styles, Austin Aries, Bobby Roode, James Storm, Samoa Joe and so forth, however I would assume sooner or later they would be signed.

Cruiserweight wrestling becomes huge, seeing as WCW started it, the Cruiserweight title becomes a world championship, and cruiserweight wrestlers are treated as secondary main event players.

Also, I would assume WCW would pick up 25 contracts from the WWF so this is who i think they would have signed.

The Rock (never worked for WCW)
Stone Cold (Yes, i know Eric Fired him, but Austin became established in WWF and Eric would Capatilize.)
Undertaker (Worked as Mark Callous before WWF, would have a undeafeted streak at Starrcade.)
Chris Jericho (Heart and Soul of Cruiserweight divison)
Jeff Hardy (Daredevil originator in WWF, would eventully become WCW world Champ)
Matt Hardy (See Above)
Christian(See Above)
Edge (See Above)
Triple H (Worked as Conniticut blueblood, head of WWF stable in WCW)
Billy Gunn (Never worked for WCW, becomes tag champ with RD)
Road Dogg (Never worked for WCW, becomes tag champ with BG)
X-Pac (Worked as Syxx for NWO, would rejoin and become Cruiserwieght champ)
Chris Benoit (Was WCW champ, day before he walked out, WCW wanted to keep him, would stay on top of card for a LONG time.)
Eddie Gurrero (Worked well for them, hes EDDIE he would get signed back)

Besides them i dont know who would fill the last spots but it would have been pretty damn good and pretty damn intresting

 

[rge2010]

I fully believe this question gets an airing every other week?

Anyway, Pro Wrestling wouldn't exist. Bischoff and Hogan would have still destroyed WCW and Rock would be back in the Canadian Football League and Austin would be stacking shelves at some DIY store.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

I was thinking of this questions some time ago.

Here's my answer ... the Wrestling Industry would have crumbled and cease to exists in the eyes of the general population and the mainstream.

Think about it even if WCW won the war the company would have still have self imploded by excessive cost, expensive contract, etc. even more so if WCW would sign guys like Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, and Austin.

Eventually WCW will still be mismanaged mess that will have fans turns against WCW (think of the fans that stopped watching WWE after the Ninday Night War and multiply that by three fold) and the AOL Time Warner merger would have happened and decide to cut wrestling off their portfolio.

With no WWF/E, and no WCW I can see wrestling returning back to the Independent/Territory area probably having 4 or 5 ECW/TNA size promotions around the country.

So in conclusion, I believe if WCW won the War. It would have killed the Wrestling Industry and set it back another 20 years behind.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Both Hogan and Flair would go beyond the 16-time and 12-time World Champs that they are now.
Booker T would probably be a 10 time, 10 time, 10 time WCW Champion!
As another poster mentioned, TNA wouldn't be created.
If that was to happen in 2001, then neither Austin or The Rock would appear in a wrestling event under WCW ever again as The Rock would leave the day after Wrestlemania 17 for good to go and shhot movies and Austin would probably have retired 2 years earlier than he did.
The DX vs The NWO angle would have played out.
Benoit and Eddie would may still be alive.
From the young starts that "gratuated" from Wrestlemania 21 only Batista would have made it to a big level and that's because he would have the politics by his side and the Goldberg-Hogan body type. Edge would have to work really hard to get to the top (just like he did in the WWE). Cena had to good mic skills to not become at least 1 time World Champ. Orton might have stayed in midcard level.
Sting vs The Undertaker would have taken place.
Major backstage problems would occur between the master-politicians: Hogan, Nash, Triple H and HBK.
Major talent known form TNA and ROH (Joe, Styles, Punk, Bryan) would still be signed but might not make it in such highs.
ECW would be forgotten.
Brock Lesnar would still make it into WCW as Goldberg 2.0.
Rey Mysterio might wouldn't be a World Champ.
Vince, Shane & Stephanie might be the creators of TNA
No more Wrestlemania. No more streak.
Vince Russo would be knows as the best booker ever and not the worst.
We would have a WCW Hall of Fame.
Bischoff might have taken straight action against UFC and not let it evolve.
WCW studios. Nuff said.

And many many more..

At the end of the day, WCW would still fall because of their own mistakes, and probably the Vinnie Mac version of TNA would go and take the victory. So, consequently, WCW was to bad to stay stong against anything Vince would make.

 

[pshanbhag92]

Austin - Would have immediately been put in a feud with Goldberg and would have lost. Then would have lost a feud with Hulk Hogan. And because of his growing popularity Hogan and Nash would make sure he never main events and gets as less TV exposure as possible.

Undertaker - Feuded and lost to Sting. Would have still been a top guy though.

Triple H - Would have done well for himself thanks to Nash and Hall.

X pac - Same.

Rock - Would have been put into a feud with DDP and then immediately buried.

Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero, Mysterio - Would be jobbers to Edge, Christian, hardys.

Pro-wrestling would be utter crap. No one would give a fuck. It would close within 2-3 years. Small companies like TNA, ROH might have been started by Jim Ross or Undertaker or someone.

 

[Mantis]

It's really a difficult question to answer, because in order for WCW to have won, it would have had to be drastically different from the WCW that we knew. WWF won the Monday Night Wars, but WCW self destructed as well. The things that brought WCW it's greatest success, such as the nWo angle and the signing of established WWF talent, arguably did just as much to hurt the company. I believe that if the WWF failed to beat WCW, then both companies would have lost, and pro wrestling would exist on a much smaller scale.

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

I fully believe this question gets an airing every other week?

Anyway, Pro Wrestling wouldn't exist. Bischoff and Hogan would have still destroyed WCW and Rock would be back in the Canadian Football League and Austin would be stacking shelves at some DIY store.

And I believe unfounded and groundless answers like that show up on these threads every time this topic is brought up. Hogan and Bischoff have egos that's is a hard point to argue, I definitely feel they had/have egos, but last I saw the entertainment business no matter whether we're talking film, stage, television, sports is comprised of egos. But let's not forget one thing, Hogan and Bischoff were just two of MANY egos within the WCW organization.

Considering the guaranteed contracts that even unproven talent were supposedly getting is what didn't help WCW's case, also WCW being owned by a company like AOL Time Warner who I must add changed their minds about keeping a minority interest in WCW upon their original sale to Fusient Media Ventures (which we know fell through and instead the company was sold to th then-WWF) is what hurt WCW more than the ego of a certain fu-manchu wearing shirt tearing powerhouse who actually had a track record upon his debut in the company. In fact, had Hogan not ever gone to WCW who knows if they would have gone to the next level, I don't undersell the WCW roster pre-Hogan because there was GREAT talent and the following for the company was still solid, but things really took off with Hogan's arrival.

But anyway, nothing is more oversimplified and ridiculous than bringing up the Hogan destroyed WCW card, when more proof is needed for such a nonsense claim. If WCW won the Monday Night Wars, we'd still have some nonsense in the wrestling world, in fact to me things were starting to change for the worse before the merger of the two promotions.

I'd like to say that if WCW won the Monday Night Wars that we would not see Katie Vick or Big Dick Johnson, but then again who knows...I can't say that there wouldn't be anything worse in its place.

 

[MWRedskins]

if WCW won the Monday Night War, then many different things likely would've happened.
1) Major backstage issues. WCW from what people have said was VERY political and people always seemed to play politics. if WCW won the war, guys like Hogan and Nash would've still been locker room issues.
2) Established guys would've gotten pushes if they came, so HHH, Stone Cold (if he came which i doubt he would), The Rock (same answer as Stone Cold) and others would've been pushed eventually
3) no invasion storyline
4) you may see Vince as a GM or leader role if Bischoff was kind enough.
5) no TNA because TNA was created by Jerry for Jeff to have a company to go to it seems, so, with WCW still alive, Jarrett would not have to go to help create a wrestling company because WCW would still push him as a top guy who breaks a ton of guitars.
6) Rey Mysterio would've never likely won the world title.

and i'm sure there are others, but we would've gotten matches like DX vs. NWO (if some of DX and NWO stayed or got together) and there would've been matches that some fans really wanted, but never got with the exception of Hart vs. Hogan.

 

[baufan2025]

I look at it this way. If WcW had won all along then the terrible booking past Goldberg winning the title in the GA dome would have never came to be. No need to hire Russo so there would be no David Arquette as champion. Maybe new guys would have come in so no need to have Goldberg's first loss come to Nash in a terrible Starcade ending. Y2J would have stayed at the midcard where he belonged. Benoit would have no where else to go so maybe he quits wrestling or kills his family sooner or not at all (The butterfly effect). The undertaker would never had a streak.

 

[IT Factor]

Two words; MR BISCHOFF! YOU'RE FIRED, Vince! There would be MANY things that would be different in wrestling/entertainment had WCW defeated WWF back then. I honestly believe that even if WCW had won the wars, they would've eventually still imploded due to unprofessional practices and/or talents killing each other. WCW wasn't a company that could sustain itself and remain professional at all. And although I've disagreed with ALOT that McMahon & Co. have done since the demise of WCW/ECW, I still think WWE winning the wars was the only way to keep pro wrestling alive and preserve what each company meant at its peak. If WCW had won, I'm not sure Bischoff would've done that like McMahon has attempted to do with ECW and WCW[somewhat].

 

[SD619]

This week is a question I am sure a few of you have an opinion on ..."What if.... WCW had WON the "Monday Night Wars" instead of WWE?

Let's say that NWO and "Monday Nitro" had beaten WWE, and it was WCW who bought out WWE instead. Let's say Eric Bischoff's gamble paid off. What would have happened to WWE stars? Where would this put Vince McMahon? What do you think WCW would be like right now if they had won the war instead?

This part is something that I just can't see happening. Ted Turner sold WCW because it was a minor part of his revenue (like TNA and Panda Energy). Getting rid of WCW was a business decision for him. As for McMahon, WWF means the world to him. He is a wrestling promoter first and a businessman second. I find it hard to believe that McMahon would, under any circumstance, sell WWF. He would continued to lose the ratings battle, and would have to scratch and claw his way to viewers. McMahon wouldn't have left the WWF until all his viewers stopped watching the product.

 

[Kizzani]

I am not sure of the drugs people are on when they post but. If WCW won Monday night wars you are assuming Vince McMahon goes broke in the process the man who went from 80k Company to Mutil Billion dollar company.

Let's pretend WWE did lose the first round of Monday night wars, Vince would have bounced back. All wcw talent that wasn't in the group ( hogan group) would have rolled over to WWE. Vince would take a risk and purchase Goldberg, DDP, Giant, and a few Key others to take away from WCW star power and just leave the old guys there. I wouldn't be surprised to see Vince Shell out HUGE money to Sting. This would make sting the top face in the WWE.

What happens after WCW wins, they have to maintain that top dog spot since VInce would never stop chasing them, this would lead to financial ruin and a smart business man like Ted Turner would eventually realize that WCW was losing more money than it was gaining and sell out. The only real change would be the amount of money TNA owner Jeff Jarrett would have had to start. He still take the mexico Idea and runs 6 sided ring, But without WWE to compete against TNA can thrive on Thursday nights.
Now once WCW implodes on it's self instead of Vince Wasting money on certain key wrestlers they head to TNA bringing TNA up tot he speed of wwe since most are WCW talents. Jarrett saw the problems in WCW and doesn't allow Nash,Hogan and Bichoff to sink his ship, instead they are stuck crawling to Vince or they fall in line and enjoy being NWO in TNA. The run the same story the did in WCW.

TNA becomes a legit force in the wrestling world and takes over the Monday night wars. Wrestling in general it better Tommy Mercer never makes it to TNA since they are stack with talent.

 

[HBKperfect23]

The WWF would have never went out of business. Lets say they lost the MNW. Vince loses the tv slot, mainstream sponsers, and some major talent. Vince would still run the WWF, but the company would be run like was in the territory days (if need be). WCW would eventually fold. There was no longevity in the way WCW ran things, it was a ticking time bomb. Vince would eventually be on top again. There is "NO CHANCE IN HELL" Vince would have showed up to be the GM of Nitro on a WCW show.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

If you really think about it. WWF wasn't losing huge amounts of dollars at the time. Yes, they got beat in the ratings, but they still sold Pay-Per-Views, and sold out shows. Pay Checks just weren't written and thrown around in the WWF.

The main point I am getting is, Just because WCW would of had beat WWF in the ratings, doesn't mean WWF would of went out of business. If WCW would of stayed in business, that would mean one thing. Something we wanted. Competition!

If WCW won the ratings battle, WWF would still of made money, that means two decent size competitors in Pro Wrestling. On top of that, no one would ever lose their time slot. Because both parties would of had good ratings.

In fact, no one would of really won the War. It would of still went on. Giving us competition, and wrestling looked at as a trade.

So my answer is, Pro Wrestling would of had competition much longer. Hell, ECW might of got a thrown into the mix, because wrestling would of been considered profitable. So someone would of thrown that company a bone.

 

[SinCityBlitz]

This part is something that I just can't see happening. Ted Turner sold WCW because it was a minor part of his revenue (like TNA and Panda Energy). Getting rid of WCW was a business decision for him. As for McMahon, WWF means the world to him. He is a wrestling promoter first and a businessman second. I find it hard to believe that McMahon would, under any circumstance, sell WWF. He would continued to lose the ratings battle, and would have to scratch and claw his way to viewers. McMahon wouldn't have left the WWF until all his viewers stopped watching the product.

Ted Turner never sold WCW, AOL/TW did. He didn't want to get rid of WCW at all. His biggest mistake was merging with AOL.

There was never going to be a winner in the MNW. One company going out of business is bad for the wrestling business...period.

Like Cuddle said the WWF was still making money while losing the ratings. So the WWF was never going out of business.

 

[Cereal Killer]

They still would of been going today of course but I don't think the product would be as big as what WWE is today. WWE had/have the attitude era, mania, cena etc. WCW's creative wasn't as good as WWE's because of the repetitive storyline they had been putting on. But I don't think it would of been that bad and it probably would have gotten bigger. Maybe even better than the 84 weeks of fame. It depends on the creative and what the product would be like. If it was like how it was in '98-'01, they wouldn't have got anywhere.

Also, there would be no TNA or ROH. Not too sure about ROH actually but TNA only formed because there was no WCW or ECW and that not many people get one with Vince McMahon.

 

[jpickens]

ROH would've still formed the only change would be that they would be in the same position that TNA is in now the worst case scenario is that the WWF would be pushed back to its original territory in the northeast and Canada maybe a few spots in the northwest, Midwest and west coast. WCW would still implode unless they made drastic changes talent-wise except for a few most would still stay with Vince becausefor every top star that woul've left you'd have guys like Austin, Angle, Foley, HHH, HBK, and Undertaker that would stay out of loyalty to the man who made them the stars that they are.

 

[pshanbhag92]

Vince would have started another wrestling promotion on a small scale, and slowly expand it (faster than TNA is). WCW would self-destruct and we'd still be watching what Vince wants us to.