First off this is a very sad hypothetical and I hope this never happens to anyone anywhere, but what if on a trip overseas the WWE jet were to crash and nobody survived? Would there be enough in the wwe "farm system" and wwe headquarters to carry on the company? How long before and who would get the company up and working again? Or would the company just be so devastated that it will be shut down out of respect?
What if a Mass WWE Tragedy happened?
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If Vince McMahon was not on the plane, I suspect this is how the story would play out. The WWE would take the surviving members of the roster as not all the wrestlers travel on tours together, and have them all job to Triple H, who of course takes private jets.
Then after a while they will have Vince come out and make it all into an angle where he downed the plane himself to clear out the competition for his new ally, Triple H!
Then after a while they will have Vince come out and make it all into an angle where he downed the plane himself to clear out the competition for his new ally, Triple H!
Fuel The Fire
Getting Noticed By Management
well you would need to more detail in your topic and what wwe superstars you would me talking about..would the whole mcmahon family be in the jet? So its kind of hard to give a good answer to this but if your just talking about big stars? i dont think they would be hurt. The McMahons have enough resources where the could get talent and work it in and i think they would be just fine but its hard to give a good answer to this.
IF this really did happen tho what would have to have is a destroy and rebuild of the company and start from scratch and i think they would be fine.
IF this really did happen tho what would have to have is a destroy and rebuild of the company and start from scratch and i think they would be fine.
I think about stuff like that all the time. Not just with WWE but all sports like what is the LA Lakers plane just went down, or the NY Yankees all died one night ya know... Well, its hard to really say what would happen because like others said you would have to take a look at who all died, which McMahons were left if any. With the spilt brands say if the plane with RAW/ECW went down then you would have Smackdown roster to carry load... So, many different ways to look at it. It would suck whatever outcome was.
WWE would continue but the smaller popular guys might get a push, MVP, Morrison, Swagger, Christian.
in any case wwe does need to revamp itself soon, they've got weekly celebrity GM's but that dosn't ghange the fact that Cena & HHH will always win chamionships for the next few years until some other guys get a push.
If and when shane & steph take over you can bet HHH will stay have a say of what goes on.
in any case wwe does need to revamp itself soon, they've got weekly celebrity GM's but that dosn't ghange the fact that Cena & HHH will always win chamionships for the next few years until some other guys get a push.
If and when shane & steph take over you can bet HHH will stay have a say of what goes on.
What the hell are you talking about? They are dead man, they are dead. This is not Wrold Zombie Entertainment, there is not returning from the dead. Swagger wont get a push, and Cena wont be holding him down. They are 6 feet under.
But do not fear my little friend, I swear up on this forum, a forum I have been a member of for a long time now. If this happens, then I will try to enter into the WWE and go for the WWE Championship.
But do not fear my little friend, I swear up on this forum, a forum I have been a member of for a long time now. If this happens, then I will try to enter into the WWE and go for the WWE Championship.
Little Jerry Lawler
Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids
You need to clarify more with your question? Maybe there were only two or three people on the jet? Was it only wrestlers from RAW, ECW, or Smackdown on the jet? I can't give a definite answer until your clarify your question so for now I would say WWE will start grabbing wrestlers from TNA to balance it out so to speak.
CJ The Pirate
Schwing
Yes, this is a very sick question but one I have considered myself. I am a Manchester United fan (Soccer) and back in 1958 a plane came down in Germany carrying The team which is known as The Busby Babes (After the manager Sir Matt Busby) who were wonderful to watch and heading for legendary success. 8 Players were killed in the crash, including the crown jewel of the team at the time, Duncan Edwards. He was just 21. Tommy Taylor and Liam Wheelan also were great favourites among the 8. It was a tragedy.
Manchester United got over it and 10 years later won the biggest tournement in Association Football, The European Cup. Now, Manchester United are the biggest football club in the world next to giants like Real Madrid and Milan.
So there is the proof that a major tragedy can be overcome. However, Football has one major governing body. FIFA. Wrestling is all independent. WWE is an independent fed with big testicles. Chop those testicles off and it'll crumble just like any other will.
But who are the biggest testicles?
Vince McMahon, if not the whole family, need to be counted. They do the stuff backstage and they do it well. The show is clean and polished. Yes, the product is often under scrutiny but it's easy to watch. WCW back in the 90's and TNA today are very roughly produced. The camera angles aren't always perfect. The announce staff are poor (For example, at TNA Victory Road, The announcers completely missed a low blow spot which led to a heel victory, yet it was smoothed over as a clean win... WWE never ever miss that)
Triple H would be a big loss. Yes, everyone is a bit bored of having The Game on top. But He's a fantastic worker and makes bad people look good in a similar manner to The Undertaker. He is not afraid to take a beating or a big spot. Say what you like, He will deserve his hall of fame spot. Hopefully not Posthumously. This would hurt WWE a lot. They wouldn't have the safety net he provides.
John Cena. He makes me cheer. He makes you Boo. It doesn't matter either way because the noise is deafening and noone goes to refill their Pepsi or take a leak when he's on the mic or in the ring. He's not the greatest in ring performer but he's a fantastic draw and highly entertaining. He's a perfect champion. Just like Hogan was. Noone else makes that kind of noise. Not since The Rock or Stone Cold. It's often a bigger pop than when the lights go dark.
The Undertaker.
Often gets a bigger pop than Rabba DOOOO! Undertaker has been electrifying people long before that word became an adjective. I would cry if I had to watch a memorial video on Raw. I did for Eddie and Benoit. I always mention Undertaker as one of my faves in the same breath as those two. BUT. I have to stress, please don't take this as sick or hurtful. As I have said, Undertaker is THAT guy for me. This is hypothetical. If he were to die today. It wouldn't be as bad for WWE as it would have been 10 years ago. No Ministry. No Basis for Kane's character. Shove HHH on the same ill fated flight and what would Hell in a Cell be today? As big? Would we have the Elimination Chamber? There is a HIAC thread on this board recently which proves how big HIAC is because of these two men. No DX reunion. Where would HBK be? Stephanie might have married someone else. No Legacy. No push for Orton and Batista... not as we know it anyway. Those two coming out of Evolution is probably the best thing to happen to the 00's... alongside Cena and Edge's title win.
Now? Undertaker will not make Wrestlemania 30. Triple H and Cena will. Fact. We have to face it. The best of Undertaker DVD could already be released. Nothing else will happen. We will have the same rivalries over and over again. Face off... Fight... Taker gets beat. Rematch... Taker wins... Rubber match... Taker says rest in peace and wins a gimmick match. Taker isn't gonna give us an epic promo. He isn't gonna have another big match. Wrestlemania prooved that. He gave us everything and hasn't been seen since. Most take a month off... He's taken 4. I'd shed a tear. Vince wouldn't.
Shawn Michaels
I want him to be at Wrestlemania 30. I can see him there and I can't see the rumours of his retirement being this coming Wrestlemania having any weight to it. But it will happen soon. Again, if it were to happen today... I do think it would hurt. Last year, he and Jericho had the feud of the year. Brilliant on the mic. Great promo's. Class entertainer. This year he'll have the Match of the year wrapped up.
Am I a hypocrite? He's done the same thing as Undertaker and not been seen since Wrestlemania. True but Undertaker has less time left. Shawn also does not have as many injuries as the Undertaker. Yes, the 4 year hiatus is worse than Undertaker has ever had but he's shown little signs of that ever coming back. Undertakers knees have just gotten worse. His elbows are also going. Shawn can still make a feud interesting. Undertaker can't.
Chris Jericho can pretty much take all the positives I gave HBK. He's perfect right now.
Randy Orton is the future. I can imagine Orton being the Triple H figure when my kids are 10 years old. Alongside Cena. If he goes... they lose a great long time worker.
Edge
He's brilliant. And his ball has just begun rolling only to be recently stopped. And we will now see what his absence will mean. Only when he returns though. We'll realise what we'd been missing. That's thanks to him being a Tag Champ and not World champ at the time of his injury. If he'd have been injured a few months ago then the title picture would have been very different. Hell, you could say that for the past 3 years. WM30 main event and beyond!
But who else can we really mention? Jeff Hardy? Yeah, he's popular but he's not brilliant on the mic or on the mat. The recent news of his contract signing is proof of that. Noone is really bothered. We like the Swanton. We like the facepaint. Hell, we like seeing the belt around his waist. But we can live without it.
Rhodes and DiBiase? I'd miss DiBiase but he's not yet done any match which has made the edge of my seat. Rhodes is poor and I expect to see him as ECW champion this time next year. Insignificant success. Lets just say if I was in a boat and it was far to heavy. Rhodes would go first. I'm more important.
Christian. Talented. Good on the Mic. Not gonna do anything other than ECW/Intercontinental/US title.
Swagger... Same as Dibiase... possible less talented.
Screw the divas. Beautiful women who can slap are ten a penny and I'm sure one of them can do a suplex, DDT or a chick kick. Unharmed.
Big Show, Kane, Mark Henry... ahem.
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In short, it all depends on who died. Those who would be sorely missed in a business sense make up the smaller percentage. Take out Triple H, Cena, Edge, HBK, Orton, and Chris Jericho. Add The McMahons too. That's 10 people who's loss would be immediately apparant. How many in the roster? around 90... I suck at maths so just call it 10 percent
90% of superstars who's loss wouldn't matter so much. Even on a larger scale, There are many future stars down in FCW who could be brought up and I'm sure they'd be able to sign some TNA stars and ROH stars if they needed to. TNA talk about the loyalty but I doubt it's true. Not for the right price.
Manchester United got over it and 10 years later won the biggest tournement in Association Football, The European Cup. Now, Manchester United are the biggest football club in the world next to giants like Real Madrid and Milan.
So there is the proof that a major tragedy can be overcome. However, Football has one major governing body. FIFA. Wrestling is all independent. WWE is an independent fed with big testicles. Chop those testicles off and it'll crumble just like any other will.
But who are the biggest testicles?
Vince McMahon, if not the whole family, need to be counted. They do the stuff backstage and they do it well. The show is clean and polished. Yes, the product is often under scrutiny but it's easy to watch. WCW back in the 90's and TNA today are very roughly produced. The camera angles aren't always perfect. The announce staff are poor (For example, at TNA Victory Road, The announcers completely missed a low blow spot which led to a heel victory, yet it was smoothed over as a clean win... WWE never ever miss that)
Triple H would be a big loss. Yes, everyone is a bit bored of having The Game on top. But He's a fantastic worker and makes bad people look good in a similar manner to The Undertaker. He is not afraid to take a beating or a big spot. Say what you like, He will deserve his hall of fame spot. Hopefully not Posthumously. This would hurt WWE a lot. They wouldn't have the safety net he provides.
John Cena. He makes me cheer. He makes you Boo. It doesn't matter either way because the noise is deafening and noone goes to refill their Pepsi or take a leak when he's on the mic or in the ring. He's not the greatest in ring performer but he's a fantastic draw and highly entertaining. He's a perfect champion. Just like Hogan was. Noone else makes that kind of noise. Not since The Rock or Stone Cold. It's often a bigger pop than when the lights go dark.
The Undertaker.
Often gets a bigger pop than Rabba DOOOO! Undertaker has been electrifying people long before that word became an adjective. I would cry if I had to watch a memorial video on Raw. I did for Eddie and Benoit. I always mention Undertaker as one of my faves in the same breath as those two. BUT. I have to stress, please don't take this as sick or hurtful. As I have said, Undertaker is THAT guy for me. This is hypothetical. If he were to die today. It wouldn't be as bad for WWE as it would have been 10 years ago. No Ministry. No Basis for Kane's character. Shove HHH on the same ill fated flight and what would Hell in a Cell be today? As big? Would we have the Elimination Chamber? There is a HIAC thread on this board recently which proves how big HIAC is because of these two men. No DX reunion. Where would HBK be? Stephanie might have married someone else. No Legacy. No push for Orton and Batista... not as we know it anyway. Those two coming out of Evolution is probably the best thing to happen to the 00's... alongside Cena and Edge's title win.
Now? Undertaker will not make Wrestlemania 30. Triple H and Cena will. Fact. We have to face it. The best of Undertaker DVD could already be released. Nothing else will happen. We will have the same rivalries over and over again. Face off... Fight... Taker gets beat. Rematch... Taker wins... Rubber match... Taker says rest in peace and wins a gimmick match. Taker isn't gonna give us an epic promo. He isn't gonna have another big match. Wrestlemania prooved that. He gave us everything and hasn't been seen since. Most take a month off... He's taken 4. I'd shed a tear. Vince wouldn't.
Shawn Michaels
I want him to be at Wrestlemania 30. I can see him there and I can't see the rumours of his retirement being this coming Wrestlemania having any weight to it. But it will happen soon. Again, if it were to happen today... I do think it would hurt. Last year, he and Jericho had the feud of the year. Brilliant on the mic. Great promo's. Class entertainer. This year he'll have the Match of the year wrapped up.
Am I a hypocrite? He's done the same thing as Undertaker and not been seen since Wrestlemania. True but Undertaker has less time left. Shawn also does not have as many injuries as the Undertaker. Yes, the 4 year hiatus is worse than Undertaker has ever had but he's shown little signs of that ever coming back. Undertakers knees have just gotten worse. His elbows are also going. Shawn can still make a feud interesting. Undertaker can't.
Chris Jericho can pretty much take all the positives I gave HBK. He's perfect right now.
Randy Orton is the future. I can imagine Orton being the Triple H figure when my kids are 10 years old. Alongside Cena. If he goes... they lose a great long time worker.
Edge
He's brilliant. And his ball has just begun rolling only to be recently stopped. And we will now see what his absence will mean. Only when he returns though. We'll realise what we'd been missing. That's thanks to him being a Tag Champ and not World champ at the time of his injury. If he'd have been injured a few months ago then the title picture would have been very different. Hell, you could say that for the past 3 years. WM30 main event and beyond!
But who else can we really mention? Jeff Hardy? Yeah, he's popular but he's not brilliant on the mic or on the mat. The recent news of his contract signing is proof of that. Noone is really bothered. We like the Swanton. We like the facepaint. Hell, we like seeing the belt around his waist. But we can live without it.
Rhodes and DiBiase? I'd miss DiBiase but he's not yet done any match which has made the edge of my seat. Rhodes is poor and I expect to see him as ECW champion this time next year. Insignificant success. Lets just say if I was in a boat and it was far to heavy. Rhodes would go first. I'm more important.
Christian. Talented. Good on the Mic. Not gonna do anything other than ECW/Intercontinental/US title.
Swagger... Same as Dibiase... possible less talented.
Screw the divas. Beautiful women who can slap are ten a penny and I'm sure one of them can do a suplex, DDT or a chick kick. Unharmed.
Big Show, Kane, Mark Henry... ahem.
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In short, it all depends on who died. Those who would be sorely missed in a business sense make up the smaller percentage. Take out Triple H, Cena, Edge, HBK, Orton, and Chris Jericho. Add The McMahons too. That's 10 people who's loss would be immediately apparant. How many in the roster? around 90... I suck at maths so just call it 10 percent
90% of superstars who's loss wouldn't matter so much. Even on a larger scale, There are many future stars down in FCW who could be brought up and I'm sure they'd be able to sign some TNA stars and ROH stars if they needed to. TNA talk about the loyalty but I doubt it's true. Not for the right price.
Stormtrooper
Championship Contender
well actually, there is never a time where every superstar on the "main Roster" are on the same plane, so this would be pretty much impossible to happen. If a charter plane went down overseas, then WWE would lose one of their shows rosters, however the other roster would be alive and kicking. I would assume they would announce the end of the brand split and have that roster do both shows. The McMahons would probably not be on the plane, as they would most likely be on their private Jet. WWE would have to have some sort of emergency catastrophy business plan if they were.
CJ The Pirate
Schwing
Jesus Christ guys! Do you know understand the term 'Hypothetical?'
Make the interpretation yourself. Use your imagination. If you want to imagine a particular instance then just take one brand and work from there. Or make it a Super Show in London or Tokoyo.
Or just imagine that there is a huge plane with over 100 seats and the all can fly on it. Oh wait. That's just a Boeing 747. Fill those seats with EVERY SUPERSTAR!
Remember, just because it is in your imagination, that doesn't make it real. This isn't a South Park episode.
If you still can't bring yourself to do this, then change the damned situation. Death doesn't just occur because of plane crashes. Terrorists have just bombed Night of Champions... what now???
Or just read my first post and reply to it. Copy it. Just stop asking stupid questions and making ridiculous comments.
Oh, and before the rep police come make me negative again for this... go get a life! Please!
Make the interpretation yourself. Use your imagination. If you want to imagine a particular instance then just take one brand and work from there. Or make it a Super Show in London or Tokoyo.
Or just imagine that there is a huge plane with over 100 seats and the all can fly on it. Oh wait. That's just a Boeing 747. Fill those seats with EVERY SUPERSTAR!
Remember, just because it is in your imagination, that doesn't make it real. This isn't a South Park episode.
If you still can't bring yourself to do this, then change the damned situation. Death doesn't just occur because of plane crashes. Terrorists have just bombed Night of Champions... what now???
Or just read my first post and reply to it. Copy it. Just stop asking stupid questions and making ridiculous comments.
Oh, and before the rep police come make me negative again for this... go get a life! Please!
As far as the oversees tours, I do believe they all fly together, including the Mcmahons, especially in this economy they all probably going to share a charted jet for the entire tour. There is no way they are taking more than one jet and waste all that money, remember Vince is not a moron.
As far as the repercussions, I think it would be devestating and you wouldnt see any WWE programming for a certain amount of time until things are figured out depending on who was killed. Say for instance Vince, you would have to wait till a transfer of power and the fact of peoples state of minds inside that ring. Not to mention that fear of flying that would automaticly be instilled in everyone.
As far as the repercussions, I think it would be devestating and you wouldnt see any WWE programming for a certain amount of time until things are figured out depending on who was killed. Say for instance Vince, you would have to wait till a transfer of power and the fact of peoples state of minds inside that ring. Not to mention that fear of flying that would automaticly be instilled in everyone.
Seeing the footage during NBC's special for salute to the troops members from all 3 brands and Vince were shown being on the same plane. It didn't show if Shane or Steph were on the plane, but it does show that this type of event could happen and a big what would come of the wwe if this does.
MARYSEPHOENIX
Dark Match Jobber
If the wwe lost EVERY superstar, it would be the end of WWE. It's that simple. If you just take the "main rosters" on that plain, then you would have FCW left. That would be the new WWE.
Well, see, there's one flaw with said hypothetical situation that you've stated; usually, when the WWE makes overseas tours, they are sure to make it so that only one of the brands goes overseas, while another one stays in the United States. I mean, sure, ECW may come every now and then, but for the most part, what you're talking about is never going to happen. The only time in which I could see such a thing occurring is if Wrestlemania were to be held overseas, and even then, I'd assume Vince would bring the wrestlers that are actually working with Wrestlemania.
I understand this is a hypothetical question, but you have to be careful between crossing the line of "hypothetical" and "impossible". And this, to me, is surely impossible.
I understand this is a hypothetical question, but you have to be careful between crossing the line of "hypothetical" and "impossible". And this, to me, is surely impossible.
Honkey_Kong
Championship Contender
If a mass tragedy happened, it'd probably setback the WWE in the short term. I'm guessing they'd be cherry picking TNA and ROH for talent. Wrestlers in their farm system would be brought up in to the bigs faster than they normally would (which probably wouldn't be a good thing) The only saving grace in the short term would be that a tragedy that big would draw huge ratings. But what we've learned from all the smaller tragedies that have happened is that the show goes on.
Nobody in the WWE is irreplaceable. It might take a while to establish new stars but they would and they'd go back to making their "sports entertainment." A year or so after, we'd barely even remember what happened.
Nobody in the WWE is irreplaceable. It might take a while to establish new stars but they would and they'd go back to making their "sports entertainment." A year or so after, we'd barely even remember what happened.
