We Need a First Time Champion

[Uncle Sam]

If there's anything that the mind-blowing title reigns of Jeff Hardy, CM Punk and Samoa Joe have taught me, it's that first time champions are great. They rock. Without exception. They are truly superb. Got a belt? Great. Not your first time with it, you say? Fuck you, cunt. Get out of here!

So yeah, let's get one in TNA. TNA is rubbish. By doing something good, interesting or not entirely shit, it will improve ever so slightly. My logic is truly transparent.

Who have we got that hasn't ever held the belt? Erm, Robert Roode, Hernandez, James Storm, Robert Roode, Matt Morgan, Jay Lethal (and pretty much every member of the X Division), Eric Young and maybe a few others.

Who should it be? Tell me. I need guidance.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I don't think I'm alone in thinking Matt Morgan is a hot prospect. He's tall....for a tall guy.

Are Robert Roode & Jame Storm still in TNA? I think teaming them up and making them take a step back was a great idea. Look at all the progress they've made.

If you don't say Eric Young then you don't like TNA wrestling. That is a fact.

 

[The Hiphopapotamus]

First time champions you say.Well,seeing as only AJ Styles,Jeff Jarrett,Kurt Angle,Samoa Joe and Sting are the ones currently in TNA (did Abyss,I'm not sure.For argument's sake,I'll say yes) who have held the title,it leaves a lot of people who can be first time champions.I have already outlined how good Hernandez would be as a champion and why he is world champion material (check out one of my threads about it).I love him,as do you Sam along with most TNA fans,and I would scream like a little boy.but I'm not going to go into the details why,I've already done that once.

But he isn't the only possibility.Beer Money are the best tag team in wrestling at the moment,and I have the feeling both would be extremely capable.James Storm slightly has the edge however.Why,well I shall answer that rhetorical question.

In ring work/Wrestling skill
Many would consider this the most important of all his traits.He is a very talented in ring worker.He can wrestle almost any style.He is an excellent brawler and a good technical wrestler,with a few power moves thrown in.He is also very fast.An example of his varied offence include powerbombs,super kicks and the eye of the storm.He can get chemistry with even the worst wrestlers,see Brother Ray.Some of his matches have been incredible,namely America's Most wanted vs Triple X,Steel Cage;America's Most Wanted vs AJ Styles/Christopher Daniels;Storm vs Chris Harris,texas death match sacrifice 2007.

Charisma
He is far and away the funniest wrestler there is in wrestling.He is such a natural entertainer.He really rocks the whole beer drinking,light hearted Tennessee cowboy that I have come to love.Whether it be his promos that always make me chuckle,or in the ring.The beer money chant,which I always join in with,and when he starts drinking during a match.When he runs away cowardly and Roode comforts him.Hilarious.His charisma is so great,that he is incredible as a heel and a face.He can make you love him or hate him,and that can also be bad occasionaly.AT the moment,noone knows if he is a face,heel or tweener.Probably the latter.

As for Roode,well here's what I think of him:

In Ring work
A great wrestler.He's a super technical wrestler and very strong.He can lift even the heaviest wrestlers.His brawling is also top notch.He's a great heel in the ring,but he would make a great face.His ability to make a comeback is brilliant,aswell as his ability to get the crowd interested.Kevin Nash keeps saying hje would make a great babyface,he's natural.A lot like Storm,his ability to make chemistry is great,as his selling and in ring psychology.

Charisma
He's great on the mic.His stick work is great.I've never heard as a fully fledged face,but as a heel he's great.He makes you want to punch him in the face.He's funny in the ring too,not as funny as Storm (but who is),but comedic none the less.If he was champion,he would be a great choice.

So I'd be happy,real happy,if any of these 3 became first time champions soon,TNA would be improving,which they need to do.hernandez will probably be first,thanks to his case.As for first time X division champions,Homicide is on his way,and I'm happy.I'm delighted in fact.

Tna has a lot of choices for a first time champions,and a few good ones aswell.But how long will it take them to give them the strap,well,when is Sting retiring.

 

[triple_b2k]

I don't know much about TNA so I can't say much.

with the WWE, the first time champ 'wants' are in Smackdown. Hart Dynasty winning the tag team championship would be excellent! putting the belts on Edge and Jericho, two over single wrestlers is a waste. after receiving such great single pushes than throwing them into the tag is a waste when you have talent sitting right there in the Hart Dynasty. I understand paying your dues but Priceless recieved it right away. cody rhodes couldn't pick his nose as a singles wrestler but give him a partner and he wins? lame. DH at least one a few matches before the whole drug scandal.

the other first I want is John Morrison. I used to hate this guy when he was with Melina. after he went to ecw, and holding the title for awhile, I started to love the guy. he's the type of guy you can put in the ring with a small guy (mysterio) or big guy (big show) and seems possible to win either. the internet show has actually helped him on the mic. he's getting comfortable talking in front of the camera. I used to think those were a stupid idea but those net shows are actually very helpful in getting guys ready for promos.

I watch Raw more than Smackdown yet Smackdown has so much great potential. I don't care much for the guys on Raw right now. there's the overrated and the 'don't cares' on that show.

 

[scoobyjrg1974]

I still feel that the WWE should do another hated foreign champion like they did with Yokazuna or a Turn Coat like they did with Seargent Slaughter.
Then have The All American Jack Swagger turn face and win it for the fans.
Remember how exciting it was watching those feuds wondering who was gonna beat them then seeing Hogan and Hart beat them respectfully.
Bring back some good old American hate then some genuine love for wrestling.

 

[scabooshmoo1]

Matt Morgan will be the next first time champ in the TNA company. when all the 50 year old dinosours from MEM reach 60 and retire matt morgan will be the NEW TNA champion for the first time he is the future of that company in my opinon he is awsome.

In WWE i agree with the monster Sam the 1st time things are fucking awsome like jeff hardy and the rest but i think the next will be jack swagger at wrestlemania 26 i truley belive that by then he will be in contentions for the title and i belive he will be the new 1st time champion by then anyone else agree?? think about it..

He has beat ricky ortiz when he first debud, then he beat finley, then he beat matt hardy, then he beat tommy dreamer, then he beat christain, then he beat tommy again, then he almost beat john cena, then he beat Mvp, whats next?? next he will beat kofi, evan (who he is already past) then he will slowly move his way up to trips and cena on raw and by the time rumble comes or wrestlemania he will be in the title hunt. IWC RULES!!!

 

[bioshock]

I still feel that the WWE should do another hated foreign champion like they did with Yokazuna or a Turn Coat like they did with Seargent Slaughter.
Then have The All American Jack Swagger turn face and win it for the fans.
Remember how exciting it was watching those feuds wondering who was gonna beat them then seeing Hogan and Hart beat them respectfully.
Bring back some good old American hate then some genuine love for wrestling.

Considering this is the PG era thats possible. But thats something I see going down years to come, say between Kozlov and Swagger when both are vets and Kozlov is a first time champion and really hated. Then Swagger would make his first face turn out of nowhere. But I don't see that happening for a few years at least...

But on to topic, since this is about TNA. It is IMO a issue in TNA that there rehashing all the champions, its a very bad habit WCW had which ruined the company and was one of the main downfalls because they rehashed all their champions guys like Sid, JJ, Steiner, Booker, DDP, Nash ect... a bunch of old guys winning the title over and over and they never did bring in anyone new to win the title after Goldberg won it, by WCW's end everyone was just old and stale. Hopefully TNA wont go that route.

So 1st time champ IMO? Morgan will be next, guys got the looks and size right now to be a world champ, and his talent level is just about there, mic skills are getting good as well. He will be the face of the company in 2 years, and a guy WWE will want very bad. Next in line has to be Eric Young, I think his will be the Eddie of TNA, or Benoit. Not wrestling wise, but that older guy who has worked his life and finally earned the title. Other then those 2 no one has been built up to be a world champion, and no one is close.

Funny thing, Foley was a first time TNA champion just 2 months ago, but hes old too.

And lets not forget, its possible guys like Ken Kennedy and Umaga could be the next first time TNA world champions as well, all depending where they end up going.

 

[King Patrick Star]

I don't think I'm alone in thinking Matt Morgan is a hot prospect. He's tall....for a tall guy.

Are Robert Roode & Jame Storm still in TNA? I think teaming them up and making them take a step back was a great idea. Look at all the progress they've made.

If you don't say Eric Young then you don't like TNA wrestling. That is a fact.

Mat Morgan – I see something along the lines of Kurt losing the Title to A. J. and then somehow, some way (Feast or Fired), Matt gets a shot at A. J. and qualifies as a M.E.M.-ber. Then, of course, Angle = Triple H, Morgan = Orton or Batista, and we have Angle vs. Morgan.

Beer Money is making it work, but you’re right and wrong. It wasn’t a step back, but it wasn’t step forward either.

Eric Young is a good choice. It would be interesting to see something fresh (Eric with a Singles Title for more than an episode of Impact).

What do you guys think of Amazing Red, Daniels, Lethal, and Kaz as TNA Champion??

As for WWE, my personal picks are Christian, Goldust, and William Regal just to see something new. My next set would be Carlito, Morrison, Kingston, and Benjamin, just to see what they could do at the top of the mountain. Of course, being that this would make it their first run, it would be better if it didn’t happen at one of the Big 4.

 

[I like the flippy]

i think that aj styles would make great world champion for tna he is young and a athlete that is what tna needs to beat the wwe in ratings so i would have aj win the belt for the first time and have a long reign with long feuds and long dominant wins and lots of tv commercials with him doing his moves so that people will know who he is.

 

[X]

i think that aj styles would make great world champion for tna he is young and a athlete that is what tna needs to beat the wwe in ratings so i would have aj win the belt for the first time and have a long reign with long feuds and long dominant wins and lots of tv commercials with him doing his moves so that people will know who he is.

Wow. So many things wrong here I'm not sure where to begin. Oh, here we go.

A) AJ Styles wouldn't be a first time World Champion, he's held the Heavyweight title in TNA THREE different times. Way to know what you're talking about.

B) "He is young and a athlete"? What does that even mean? I should hope he's an athlete, he's in the pro wrestling business.

C) AJ Styles is going to help TNA beat the WWE in ratings? How? Please explain to me how that's going to put TNA over the WWE. I need a good chuckle.

D) "Lots of TV commercials with him doing his moves"? Uhh...what? How is that going to help?

Wow man, you've really set the bar low with that post. Just...just awful.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Matt Morgan is a definite prospect for the TNA title. Daniels and Robert Roode very well could be in the future as well. I do agree we need to see another first champion again to freshen things up a bit.

 

[y2empleh]

To answer, an earlier post, yes Abyss has been world champion. I can't remember who he beat but it was like 2 years ago and lasted until TNA's next PPV.

While true, that eventually every champion needs a first time reign; the fact of the matter is that the people you mentioned (Hardy, Joe, Punk) and even Orton, had HORRENDOUS first title reigns. I highly doubt putting the title on Hernandez or Morgan will help TNA. While true that they are big guys, the simple fact is they are not ready for the main event. Maybe in a few years.

 

[jrocc4dub]

i think that aj styles would make great world champion for tna he is young and a athlete that is what tna needs to beat the wwe in ratings so i would have aj win the belt for the first time and have a long reign with long feuds and long dominant wins and lots of tv commercials with him doing his moves so that people will know who he is.

First of all, I have read some really horrible posts before, this is just stupid. AJ Styles has been champ 3 times. You obviously showed how smart you are. Know what you're talking about before you start posting dumb dumb dumb shit.

On the topic, I can definitely see Matt Morgan becoming World champ, but not for another year and if they build him more. He'd be my choice i think. Although, I am a mark for James Storm. That guy is awesome in my opinion. Pretty good on the mic, and has pretty decent matches with Roode against everybody. I'd like Storm but I'm gonna say Morgan would be the next first time champ in TNA.

WWE is gonna be Morrison. I think on smackdown they're more willing to let a guy move up and try and see if he can do it. Plus, he's got the challenge to hardy or punk after night of champions so it might happen soon. I don't really count ECW champ as a world title.

 

[King Patrick Star]

Now, I’m not against A. J. being recognized as a former World Champ, but I think the argument here is A. J. is a former NWA. Champion, not a former TNA. Champion. When A. J. was Champion, not many fans watched NWA –TNA. A. J.’s run could be on par with ECW World Title, Promotion or Brand. In some people’s eyes, before the Spike deal, TNA was a “second rate” company. In my opinion, it’s the same way some people view Christian’s runs. I don’t know, it’s just what I think other’s think. For the record, I feel A. J. runs count.

 

[gd]

How about Brutus Magnus? Even though he's I've seem his wrestle for about 5 minutes total in TNA he is British and charismatic. He also has the Feast or Fired briefcase, but I'm not sure if that'll ever be used. I think the British Invasion is going to get a big push, probably starting with a win over 3D on the next PPV.

Hernandez, Roode, and Storm are all guys that I see better as tag team wresters. Young is just shit. I like Morgan a lot, I think he's a possiblity, but not until he actually gets into the MEM, which he's been trying to do for like 3 years now. Suicide could be the champ, but that would only bring TNA to new level of shit.

So I guess it should be Magnus or Morgan, but I don't see one of those guys even getting a shot for like a year.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Wow man, you've really set the bar low with that post. Just...just awful.

I'm going to quote you and thank you for contributing to the TNA section publicly, simply because I can't rep you for, uh, some reason.

If you don't count AJ's previous title reigns - which I probably do - then sure, he'd be a great choice. I don't think he's strictly a first timer though.

Not enough people have mentioned Hernandez. Because he's too much of an obvious choice. Well, that's my guess anyway.

 

[AzLunchbox]

I'd love AJ to get the strap....he always entertains....but yeah....not a first timer.

The two that i could really see being TNA's next first time champ aren't even in the company yet.

Ken Kenned....er.....Anderson
And Mr. "Not re-signing with WWE" Jeff Hardy

Either one of those would get a huge push if they go to TNA.
As for Umaga......i see him being big there, but don't know about "world title big"

 

[gd]

First of all, I don't think there's any way Hardy's going to TNA. I'm pretty sure he wan't to take a break from wrestling as a whole, not just WWE.

Kennedy is an interesting choice. Not sure where he would fit in with the whole Main Event Mafia angle right now. If he does decide to TNA though, he would be one of the most talented guys without a world title, probably only behing Hernandez and Morgan.

 

[TLC]

wow i like the flippy your a douche, know the facts before you post anything. Anywhoo the people id love to see win it would be the following, Christopher Daniels, Kaz, Eric Young and Alex Shelley.

These four i believe are fantastic talents who deserve more than their getting and a world title would do wonders for their career but thats just my thoughts, also hernandez would be amazing.

 

[AzLunchbox]

Hardy wanted time away from wrestling as a whole a few years back too......what happened?

That's right he ended up in TNA because of their reduced schedule and relaxed drug testing.

So I fully expect to see him in TNA again if he doesn't re-sign.

 

[Joup7]

Matt Morgan is a future TNA Champ. He might even be a future Legend and Icon (he's got that potential, you can't argue with that). I look forward to his first title reign. But they shouldn't rush him. If he were to jump into the title picture now, he'd lose it and then fall to the wayside. They should wait until the Main Event Mafia stuff is over. Morgan needs a traditional reign in a traditional setting. Takes on all comers. Destroys all comers. No political bullshit to sidetrack him or make his reign a gimmick.

 

[Fleisch]

Matt Morgan without a doubt. He is the big man with actual talent that it seems Vince screwed up on. He will no doubt be TNA champion, I'd even go as far as to say by early 2010. Kurt and co in the MEM are starting to bore me a bit now. It was a good idea to start with, then the realisation hits in... Nash can't wrestle, Steiner is in too much pain to do much, Booker T is just a joke... I can't understand a word he says, and it's not funny, it's shit. He sounds like he's just had a stroke and is learning to talk again. Angle is past his best regardless of what anyone says and Samoa Joe doesn't fit in with the group. Oh bollocks I keep going off topic...

A) AJ Styles wouldn't be a first time World Champion, he's held the Heavyweight title in TNA THREE different times. Way to know what you're talking about.

Sorry but he has held the TNA World Heavyweight title 0 times. He held the NWA World Title (different belt) 3 times in NWA:TNA yes, but he has actaully never been TNA World Champion in TNA. If we are going by just the term "Heavyweight Champion" regardless of where they've held it or it being a different belt than now, then you're correct, but if we're going by first time to hold a certain belt, then the other guy would be correct in saying AJ has never been a TNA Heavyweight champion.

Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Sting, Samoa Joe and Mick Foley are the only ones who have held the TNA Heavyweight title until this point.

WWF/WWE belts can't be used as an example in a counter argument, because they merely changed the name of the title, TNA actually had to create a new title.

 

[King Patrick Star]

Matt Morgan without a doubt. He is the big man with actual talent that it seems Vince screwed up on. He will no doubt be TNA champion, I'd even go as far as to say by early 2010. Kurt and co in the MEM are starting to bore me a bit now. It was a good idea to start with, then the realisation hits in... Nash can't wrestle, Steiner is in too much pain to do much, Booker T is just a joke... I can't understand a word he says, and it's not funny, it's shit. He sounds like he's just had a stroke and is learning to talk again. Angle is past his best regardless of what anyone says and Samoa Joe doesn't fit in with the group. Oh bollocks I keep going off topic...



Sorry but he has held the TNA World Heavyweight title 0 times. He held the NWA World Title (different belt) 3 times in NWA:TNA yes, but he has actaully never been TNA World Champion in TNA. If we are going by just the term "Heavyweight Champion" regardless of where they've held it or it being a different belt than now, then you're correct, but if we're going by first time to hold a certain belt, then the other guy would be correct in saying AJ has never been a TNA Heavyweight champion.

Christian Cage, Kurt Angle, Sting, Samoa Joe and Mick Foley are the only ones who have held the TNA Heavyweight title until this point.

WWF/WWE belts can't be used as an example in a counter argument, because they merely changed the name of the title, TNA actually had to create a new title.

I see where you are coming from, however, TNA refers to A. J. the first ever TNA Grand Slam Champion. Think about it. Remember, I do see where you are coming from though.