we are not suppose to know in the first place

[Odisho]

please moderaters, i wasnt sure which section to put this thread so if its in the wrong place, please move it.

This thread isn't really a rant on most of us internet nerds, but sometimes U/WE think we know it all. people were saying sheamus winning the rumble was a ''swerve'', but my question is, how do you know if jericho was the original pick to win the rumble. After all WWE didnt tell us Y2J is gonna win. some guy on these forums said he thinks jericho is gonna win and all the sudden its a report on the Wrestlezone mainpage. And to say wwe did the wrong thing by making sheamus win, wrestling is suppose to be ''REAL''. that said, in the viewers eyes, its suppose to be an actual challenge on who will br the better man. we are suppose to think like they did back in the 80's before i was born, when a heel wins, u get pissed. what im trying to say, is we arn't suppose to know its scripted in the first place, so your pick on whose should win, dosent mean bull,

we are not in charge of the wwe, they could let yoshi tatsu win the rumble, and we are not suppose to do anything but just enjoy whatever wwe gives us and be thankful. WHat i mean is that we are nothing but random fans in vinces eyes,\. we mean nothing. we are just his money. and for those who say wrestling has lost its edge and its not exciting. maybe its not exciting because u read too much on these sites. after all, its called spoilers for a reason. it spoils the excitment.

I just think wrestling fans assume too much. i mean after all we arnt suppose to know what happens, remember its suppose to be real to us, which we arnt suppose to know who the winners is or will be, our job is to sit back relax, and FIND OUT.

 

[KnowMyRole-ShutYourMouth]

I agree with you on the aspect that this is a competition. Obviously, its scripted. But its scripted to be portrayed as a sport. Just look at how many guarantees in sports fall flat when players get cocky and mouth off to the media before a big game. Sure, Joe Namath epicly started the trend before SBIII. But now its not uncommon to see a player come out and guarantee victory, only for them/their team to lose.

I'll admit, you had me going for a bit until I came across this gem...

we are not in charge of the wwe, they could let yoshi tatsu win the rumble, and we are not suppose to do anything but just enjoy whatever wwe gives us and be thankful.

What did I just read, here? You are going to get absolutely killed for this.

I know you went on to rant about how Vince sees fans as dollar signs, and its true. But its not like WWE signed a contract with us in which we agreed to pour money into the WWE machine as well as enjoy whatever it is WWE deems to be quality programming. Do you see whats wrong with that agreement? There is no agreement. You are saying the WWE should compromise nothing, and people just need to accept the WWE for what it is. The WWE isn't water or even gasoline where one really can't do much about the price and quality; the fact is, those are goods you need (or prob need if you have a car). No one needs the WWE, or wrestling for that matter. The WWE is just a TV show. People can get their entertainment fix somewhere else if the WWE isn't delivering.

Yeah, the bitching does get tiresome. But your stance isn't any better. It's just on the complete other side of the spectrum. Instead of an angry mob of wrestling fans, you want a herd of sheep. Being a fan isn't a job. In fact, it's a privilege for the WWE to even have a fanbase. Who do you think pays all the WWE's bills? We do. That's how business works. Sure, Vince may be the owner of the company; but, he still has a boss and it's money. Our money.

It's an investment on the fans part to trust the WWE to put out an entertaining product that will satisfy said investment via some sort of profit (excitement, terror, drama, etc.). The fans owe nothing to the WWE. The fans are the reason Vince's baby grew into such a powerful entity.

 

[Paralyzer Z]

This thread isn't really a rant on most of us internet nerds, but sometimes U/WE think we know it all.

Uh, bad grammar and spelling anyone?

people were saying sheamus winning the rumble was a ''swerve'', but my question is, how do you know if jericho was the original pick to win the rumble.

It's just speculation and dirt sheets. These are what people want to see regardless if it happens or not, it creates discussion which is fun.

After all WWE didnt tell us Y2J is gonna win.

NO really?

some guy on these forums said he thinks jericho is gonna win and all the sudden its a report on the Wrestlezone mainpage.

I'm pretty sure it was the "insiders" that got the info, reporters don't go on forums to extract information. They go to some source like the so called "WWE insiders". Just because someone on a forum says something doesn't mean it is going to headline the main page.

And to say wwe did the wrong thing by making sheamus win,

That's based on sole opinion.

that said, in the viewers eyes, its suppose to be an actual challenge on who will be the better man.

Various storylines such as as Matt hardy vs Kane or any match with a consequence stipulation would disagree with you.

we are suppose to think like they did back in the 80's before i was born, when a heel wins, u get pissed. what im trying to say, is we arn't suppose to know its scripted in the first place, so your pick on whose should win, dosent mean bull,

We are supposed to think like a generation before us, kind of defeats the identity of a generation don't you think? Who you pick to win doesn't mean shit, you're right on that but you are saying that we shouldn't have predictions? Where's the fun in that?

[/QUOTE]we are not in charge of the wwe, they could let yoshi tatsu win the rumble, and we are not suppose to do anything but just enjoy whatever wwe gives us and be thankful.[/QUOTE]

... What!? If you don't like something you go against it. We shouldn't have opinions? We should be mindless and dependent beings and like everything WWE tells us to? If someone wants to rant go ahead and let them, there is no reason why we can't speak out on something we dislike in the product. A product for the most part is based on the interest of the audience, if a majority doesn't like it or cares then your business will vanish quick.

WHat i mean is that we are nothing but random fans in vinces eyes,\. we mean nothing.

So you assume that NONE of the internet fans ever pay to see a WWE show? We may not be as vital as demographic as the casual fans but to generalize us ans say that we are "random fans" is absurd.

we are just his money.

Everyone who has ever tuned into a WWE show is his money, not just internet fans.

and for those who say wrestling has lost its edge and its not exciting. maybe its not exciting because u read too much on these sites. after all, its called spoilers for a reason. it spoils the excitment.

Once again assumptions.

I just think wrestling fans assume too much. i mean after all we arnt suppose to know what happens, remember its suppose to be real to us, which we arnt suppose to know who the winners is or will be, our job is to sit back relax, and FIND OUT.

It's a different time from the early days. Information is very feasible to access and we use it to analyze and make opinions of the product in our own ways. If someone wants to post spoilers then they have all the freedom in the world to do so, and guess what? Plenty of people read them for various reasons that I do't care to list. Our only job is to view the product, other than that we can do what we want regarding it and our opinions.