Waiting for 14 Years.... Wait, what?!?!?!

[L@RISANO]

"I've been called a vigilante but I'm more than that. I'm the face of retribution. I am the silencer of injustice. I am Sting. And I've been watching you. I know first hand how power and ego like yours can corrupt and destroy lives. When WCW perished, it fell under the watch of a broken authority. I tried to save WCW ... I failed. I know pain -- the pain of loss. And after WrestleMania, Triple H, you will too. You talk about control but you cannot control vengeance. You will be the one to collapse beneath your thirst for control and realize that I control your destiny. My loyalty never wavered. Despite your lies, your loyalty is to yourself. You need to be taken down, and I've been waiting 14 years to do it. Triple H ... at WrestleMania ... game over."


So, the above is what was 'said' by the Sting "voice over" last night on RAW.
And as I feared with regards to the angle, the WWE did exactly what I hoped they wouldn't and made the HHH vs Sting feud into a WWE/F vs WCW feud and then added a truly illogical backstory to it as well.

All I have to say is; Pity, Pity

 

[SoulTrain4]

It's not about WCW though, it's a representation of corruption.

The problem, other than people wanting it to be what they want it to be, is that HHH goes on rants about WCW.

Sting has never said this was about WCW nor is it implied. It's solely about deposing HHH from power.

 

[Navi]

Seriously they didn't need to bring Sting in to get retribution against HHH and the Authority. They had the perfect group on their own roster, The Shield. The so called Hounds of Justice, could and where starting to dismantle the Authority until Rollins heel turn.

I would love to see the Shield reform and stand behind Sting, that would blow the roof off Mania, but it sadly won't happen. They could have taken out the Authority for the last and final time.

And yes it is a disappointment to be bringing up the WCW story line. No one cares about it, half the audience wasn't even born yet. Maybe they had to do a voice over because Sting refused to be part of any of that shit. Smart man.

 

[John McCass]

The problem is that this is what they call The 'Reality' Era. If they go any other route, it will become kayfabe and not reality. They don't have any other storyline to prmote Sting vs HHH. Sure, the storylines may be endless but the reality barrier has interrupted here.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

In all honesty, I don't really have anything against the WWE vs. WCW storyline angle. I actually think that it kind of fits the situation really. Even though Sting has spent much of the past decade involved with TNA, it's not as though WWE can or will use any of what he's done in TNA to build the feud. For one thing, WWE doesn't have access to TNA's video library and for another, Vince isn't going to do anything that gives any degree of free publicity to TNA. Also, while I'm sure the audience is aware or more than aware of TNA's existence, it's safe to say that the vast majority of them have rarely, or even ever, watched TNA programming so it's not like there'd be any real gain for WWE.

Sting was the guy carrying WCW's banner. Even through the nWo era, Sting was always seen as the heart & soul of WCW and the defining moments of his career took place in WCW. Triple H's character, being the cunning, egotistical, tyrannical despot that he is, he takes pride in the part he played WCW sinking into oblivion. Or, I should say the part he played as part of this storyline since what ultimately killed WCW was a combination of things. It's true that the last few years of the Monday Night War saw WWE slaughtering WCW in the ratings week after week, but the quality of WCW programming went right down the toilet and you had the Time Warner merger that saw TV executives come in who thought wrestling was low brow entertainment that brought down the image of their companies. At any rate, couple Triple H bragging about the demise of WCW and currently ruling over WWE with an iron fist, having a beloved, iconic heroic figure of the Monday Night War who never set foot in a WWE ring stepping up to be the white knight works for me really. After all, this is basically what Sting was doing during the days when the nWo was running wild over WCW, he stepped up to defend WCW. In WWE's case, Sting basically said that he's seen one company fall under the tyrannical rule of an egomaniacal dictatorship and doesn't want to see it happen in WWE.
As I said, Sting was the heart & soul of WCW, so to just leave out the WWE vs. WCW aspect is something that probably wouldn't work. If they did go that route then, in all honesty, how many complaints would there be in WWE leaving out Sting's WCW legacy, the Monday Night War and the history surrounding it? If Sting had already been in WWE for a few years it wouldn't work, but that's not the case.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

I don't see what was wrong with that. It's important they bring up Sting's legacy in WCW, as alot of the younger audience members may not know who he is if they haven't watched TNA or much old WCW footage.

Sting was totally loyal to WCW throughout its existance, he stayed til the end and did everything asked of him until the company collapsed due to terrible management decisions. As Triple H is currently playing an egotistical tyrannical authority figure, always claiming what he is doing is "best for business", the storyline is ready made for Sting to come in and prevent WWE from going down the same path.

Seriously, if they aren't going to mention his TNA run (which they won't) what other reason could they say for Sting being out of the spotlight for 14 years, and why he didnt show up in WWE until then? Was he just relaxing? Playing golf? This explanation for his actions was fine.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Sting was totally loyal to WCW throughout its existance, he stayed til the end and did everything asked of him until the company collapsed due to terrible management decisions.

That was the storyline, yes, but the real reason he and guys like Ric Flair and Kevin Nash stayed was because they were under contract to WCW and couldn't go anywhere. Weren't some of them under personal services contracts, anyway? I believed Time-Warner could have kept them even if there was no wrestling division, although I can't imagine why they'd want to.

Still, once WCW was truly finished, Sting was the guy who didn't ever want to work for WWE, which one could see as a bit hypocritical now, no?

At any rate, I hoped for years to see him in the 'E, and now that he's here for a brief run as an active competitor....to be followed hopefully by years of non-violent appearances.....I see no problem in WWE making reference to his WCW connection; the fans who are too young to remember it can just enjoy the Sting-Triple H program, even while wondering who in hell the weird guy with the black & white face paint is.

 

[Slyfox696]

Still, once WCW was truly finished, Sting was the guy who didn't ever want to work for WWE, which one could see as a bit hypocritical now, no?

Not really, as Sting's main objection was similar to Bruno Sammartino's objection. Both complained about the overly raunchy nature of the programming and had no desire to be associated with it. Since 2001, the WWE has toned down the adult themes a LOT, so it's not at all hypocritical for Sting or Bruno to come to the WWE.

 

[Mustang Sally]

Not really, as Sting's main objection was similar to Bruno Sammartino's objection. Both complained about the overly raunchy nature of the programming and had no desire to be associated with it. Since 2001, the WWE has toned down the adult themes a LOT, so it's not at all hypocritical for Sting or Bruno to come to the WWE.

Is that so? Here, I thought Sting just didn't want to work the heavy WWE schedule. But okay, that makes sense.

Still, now that Steve Borden and Bruno are under contract, it would be fun to see the company return to adult themes, starting with Triple H giving Sting the two-fingered salute at WM31.

See what the California beach boy would do then.....unless, of course, Borden and Bruno have it in writing that they can opt out if things get too dirty. Wouldn't be surprised if they did.

 

[The Warlord]

So, the above is what was 'said' by the Sting "voice over" last night on RAW.
And as I feared with regards to the angle, the WWE did exactly what I hoped they wouldn't and made the HHH vs Sting feud into a WWE/F vs WCW feud and then added a truly illogical backstory to it as well.

All I have to say is; Pity, Pity

This is the best possible angle they could have made between Sting and HHH. Why are you complaining?? Everything about it makes sense...I just hope HHH can carry Sting to a somewhat believable match.

 

[CKDaimen702]

My question would be...if it's WCW vs. WWE, shouldn't that make HHH the babyface and Sting the heel? After all, these are WWE fans in attendance. So when HHH says he is Mr. WWE, and how loyal he has been to the WWE, shouldn't he be cheered for that? And shouldn't that make Sting a bit more of a heel?

 

[L@RISANO]

My question would be...if it's WCW vs. WWE, shouldn't that make HHH the babyface and Sting the heel? After all, these are WWE fans in attendance. So when HHH says he is Mr. WWE, and how loyal he has been to the WWE, shouldn't he be cheered for that? And shouldn't that make Sting a bit more of a heel?

Many people seem to have forgotten that part where HHH practically named himself as Mr.WWE and called out Mr.WCW, Sting.

My complaint about this story is like yours and add the 'waiting for 14 years schtick' and it all messes it up.


They could just as easily have gone with:
Sting failed against the Big Bad NWO some years ago and as a result, WCW folded.
Now, the Authority, similar to NWO is running the WWE into the ground led by HHH and his 'Best for Business' schtick.... cue Sting and his debut in the WWE at Survivor Series....

Simple and easy and knocks out all of the illogical crap that exists after last RAW wirhin this storyline.

 

[SoulTrain4]

But that's pretty much what was said in that Voice over.

 

[kadroan]

It's not about WCW though, it's a representation of corruption.

The problem, other than people wanting it to be what they want it to be, is that HHH goes on rants about WCW.

Sting has never said this was about WCW nor is it implied. It's solely about deposing HHH from power.

Yeah the feud is deep, actually has some substance. Way different than Cena, Reigns and Bryan vs. The Authority. Although I don't expect a HHH vs. Sting II, this can be a start of something great for future opponents of The Authority.

 

[L@RISANO]

But that's pretty much what was said in that Voice over.

Ideally, that is what it should have been kept to until they added the part about Triple H and waiting for 14 years in order to get vengeance, which coupled with HHH's promo the previous week, it really seems to be a try at WWE vs WCW more than anything.

 

[Mustang Sally]

It's not about WCW though, it's a representation of corruption.

That's a good point. After all, it's been pointed out that the WCW "interloper" in the person of Sting is depicted as the guy on the side of justice, while big bad Triple H is the heel in the encounter, being accused of involvement in keeping those poor WCW guys from earning a living after their employer folded it's tent. But it's been a long time since those days and a big part of the current fan base never witnessed what Sting and his cohorts were doing in the late 90's. But they can certainly see what a baddie Trips is now.....and they can see the face-painted man that has stepped up to knock him down.

Sting has never said this was about WCW nor is it implied. It's solely about deposing HHH from power.

Same point as above. It's true that Sting has said nothing about WCW-WWE, largely because he hasn't said anything.

Hell, it's got to be easier for part-timers like Sting and Brock Lesnar to function in their limited roles in WWE.......they don't have to speak their parts, as everyone else does.

 

[rmp0012002]

The reason Sting never went to The WWE was because most former WCW guys that did go were dumped on and embarrassed and he wanted no part of being treated like that.
I don't know why Vince would make this a WWE vs WCW angle since the majority of the fans have no idea what WCW was. So if Sting wins at Mania then it's a win for WCW over Vince.

 

[CrucifiedRaven]

I also don't mind the Sting vs Authority or WCW vs WWE concept. Please tell me what you wanted it to be? They can't debut Sting without referencing his WCW career. This is the most logical place to take it.

They could just as easily have gone with:
Sting failed against the Big Bad NWO some years ago and as a result, WCW folded.
Now, the Authority, similar to NWO is running the WWE into the ground led by HHH and his 'Best for Business' schtick.... cue Sting and his debut in the WWE at Survivor Series....

Simple and easy and knocks out all of the illogical crap that exists after last RAW wirhin this storyline.

That is EXACTLY what they did go with. You're over thinking the "14 years part". HHH has been "corrupt" and "in charge" in kayfabe since 1999.

 

[Dave]

I still don't think that this is about WCW and the WWE. Sure, it has been referenced that Sting was the last man standing in WCW but that isn't illogical to me. In fact, it is one of the more logical reasons for Sting to target the WWE, and Triple H too.

Its a pretty well know fact that Sting didn't like the product that was on offer at WWE, at least in the IWC. I think that selling the feud that way actually makes a lot of sense. Triple H has been a staple of the WWE since they finally beat WCW and it is perfect plausible for Sting to blame that material on Triple H; the same Triple H who married the boss' daughter and got his foot in the door of the Authority. It's pretty easy to nail the blame on him for all of that.