Val Venis (Sean Morley) - All Grown Up

[NSL]

So, he's actually a full-time member? Do we know this for sure?

Also, he's no longer an "adult film star", but an "adult film producer". This bodes not-so-well for the Knockout Division. I'm guessing the ones that aren't Angelina Love will start getting their time cut back, as the pretty faces get some face time during his promos, and maybe his matches.

I'm OK with him being there, as long as he tones back the character a bit, and stops doing that damn laugh every 10 seconds. It killed his promo.

 

[axl626]

They shouldn't have brought him on camera, in my opinion. I'm sure he's a good trainer or whatever he does but he's always been a C or D level character. He's European title quality so I hope he's just around for a bit then stays behind the scenes. Obviously he won't be getting pushed but he takes time away from younger, more talented guys as I seriously doubt he can get anyone more over than anyone else.

 

[dansaun77]

Sean Morely is a seasoned professional adn the sort of enhancement talent TNA Needs. He still has a good look, can wrestle very well, mic skills are good, gets the crowd into what hes saying. He is there to put over the TNA guys and make them look good, as eell as them getting wins over name stars. No good Daniels getting theb push if its burying another Afuture TNA star. The way it looks, Morely, Jordan, Nstys are there to elevate the current crop of talent, which is very smart play by Carter/Hogan.

 

[Lancer]

I was kind of glad he showed up, but not to see his face or hear his promo. His music and entrance video were hilarious. You wouldn't see anything remotely like that in the WWE today.

And Daniels came out and cut an awesome promo on him. I mean, awesome. Daniels was saying exactly what many of the young guys in the back are most likely thinking about Hogan's pals showing up in TNA. It was really cool how he went off on Morley, until Morley "hulked up" and fought back after taking a beating and a BME for Pete's sake.

In all, I don't see what he has to offer the company. Maybe some segments with the hotter Knockouts like NSL suggested. It would be something that further separates TNA from the PG WWE at the moment: edgy, sexy content with hot women. But the Beautiful People might be tied up in a new storyline with Angelina Love and the Tag Titles, so there go your 4 hottest women right there. Who does that leave?

 

[Joup7]

i agree with dansaun77. he's there to make others look good, which he's definitely good at. He's one of the few additions so far that i'm glad to see there. Sean Morley is definitely skilled in the ring and can help some of the younger talent elevate their game to the next level.

 

[Spicytunahandroll]

I was really upset when TNA signed him or whatever. But after seeing his promo on IMPACT, I think he has some thing left to give and is in good shape still he could have a run with a couple guys and surprise people a bit.

He really looked good on camera and looked like he belonged on TV, so as long as some one reigns his story line in and does not let it get out of control the he will be productive.

So far it has been tolerable but we will still have to see what he can do in the ring. He looks as if he has put on a few pounds but carries it well so that might actually be to his advantage.

I AM LEAVING MY MIND OPEN ON HIM BECAUSE HE HAS ONLY DONE ONE PROMO AND HAS ME STARTING TO BELIEVE AND I AM ALWAYS SUPER SKEPTICAL OF EVERY ONE AND EVERY THING. WE WILL SEE?

 

[Renzino]

I like Sean Morley and I'm glad he's getting another chance because he is a good worker and he can help build some talent up.

But hopefully Daniels wins this feud and Morley is only used once in a while. Because I don't want to see Morley's pornstar gimmick get out of control.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I probably couldn't care less about Sean Morley. For all intents and purposes, he's doing something very similar to what he did in the WWE the first few years he was there with the whole porn schtick. Yeah yeah, he's a producer now and not an actor or whatever.

I'm not necessarily against him being in TNA or anything, it's just that I don't give a crap. I mean...ok, so Sean Morley is in TNA. I don't hate it, I don't care for it. Overall, he's just someone to make me change the channel.

 

[Renzino]

I kind of wish he would have just come in as Sean Morley and not do a rehash of the pornstar gimmick from the WWE.

But I'm thinking after his match with Daniels it might be the last time we see him in TNA because like the Nastys, Scott Hall and Sean Waltman I believe he's on a short term deal with the company.

 

[Pedro08]

I kind of wish he would have just come in as Sean Morley and not do a rehash of the pornstar gimmick from the WWE.

But I thinking after his match with Daniels it might be the last time we see him in TNA because like the Nastys, Scott Hall and Sean Waltman I believe he's on a short term deal with the company.

I agree. He's been out of the spotlight for so long, that he could have gotten a fresh start instead of re-hashing an old gimimck that young fans don't remember and older fans are tired of.

I really hope that he doesn't involve any of the knockouts. What separates the KOs from the Divas is that they all don't look like pornstars and can actually wrestle for longer than 2 minutes if given the chance.

What does bother me is that Daniels has been reduced to feuding with him. Here is a guy that just headlined the last 2 PPVs and put on some great matchs and now he's been dropped down to mid-card status to feud with Sean Morley?

 

[Dave]

Eugh! That fucking laugh honestly made me turn of TNA for a while last night.

Apart from that, I don't think he has a place on the TNA roster. We should be asking ourselves two questions right now and those are: can he still wrestle? And, Can he work the mic? Well, one of the questions was answered last night and I swear to God that if he gets more time on the mic, I am going to cry. You are right, NSL, that promo was wasted with that sleazy laugh that he kept busting out. Also, was the whole point of that segment a shoot against WWE films? If so, that is fucking petty and really annoyed me.

For me, I will wait until he begins to actually wrestle before I make my final judgement on whether he should be with TNA or not. Right now though, I don't like him and I am not too excited about the prospect of him keeping others off of TV.

 

[Renzino]

^^
I really don't care for Daniels being involved in a feud with Sean Morley either, but like I said hopefully it's a one time thing with Daniels winning and moving on.

But I think the match could be good because Morley isn't bad in the ring. Well at least not the last time I saw him.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I feel bad for Daniels. This is what he's reduced to (again) in TNA? Having to feud with journeymen and C/D-level "stars" in feuds that have very obvious expiration dates? Who gives a flying fuck about Sean Morely? Who gives a flying fuck about Val Venis, for that matter?

The same people complaining about the Nasty Boys should be complaining equally about someone like Val Venis. Yeah, they're both there to push TNA guys, but who says those guys even need the push? Does Daniels really need a rub that bad that he has to feud with a washed up Morley over an out-dated gimmick? Does Team 3D really need to get over so badly that they have to wrestle the fat-ass boys? Gimme a break, man...

I really hope the extent to which Hogan will hire his boys is short-lived, because someone like Morley expired a week ago, and if you're telling me I'm supposed to drink week-old milk while you tell me it's fresh, we're gonna have a problem.

 

[Mr. TM]

Val Venis did at one time have a big role on the WWE roster, bigger than this role if even comparable between the two companies, but at this time they are not, so really, he is around the same place, if not worse.

Daniels shouldn't need to prove himself against Sean Morley, he is a guy that could be wrestling for the World Title, and if not that high, he should be at least the Legends champion or going for the X division. He is a guy who like Styles has been working hard for the company for a long time, and as it stands, this is a let down for him, even if he wins.

 

[JulesWagner]

Ah! The laugh! Whew! I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one to be bothered by that awful thing. I'm sorry, but that is exactly the kinda laugh I mockingly use to portray a creepy molester and that is exactly what he came out as to me. Is he actually supposed to be the Face in that feud? Ugh! And it came coming on and on and on! That laugh had nothing charming to it, nothing cute. It was downright basement-washed-up creepy and I would have thought somebody like Morley, who has been basically riding the Val Venis character all his life, would realize that. Let him be done with it soon, or better, let him be done period! Very bad first impression if you ask me, regardless of his beating Daniels' ass. Terrible!!

 

[MisterRob]

I cannot believe all of this hate for Sean Morley. I can't believe people are trying to slam and go on about Sean Morley, and yet everyone seems fine with Hogan? Nash? Waltman? Orlando Jordan? I mean, seriously, Sean Morley is the least person of any of the people debuting with the Hogan/Bischoff era that people should be complaining about. What's there to complain about? The fact that Sean Morley can actually cut a promo and is good on the mic.. compared to 80% of the roster? Did anyone watch the god awful promos of Tyson Tomko lastnight? The Nasty Boys? The Band? Morley was a saving grace for TNA lastnight with that promo and segment with Daniels.

Is it the fact that Morley can actually wrestle? Unlike pretty much all of the talent Hogan/Bischoff brought in. Name me one talent that can wrestler better then Morley? Orland Jordan sure as hell can't. Morley was over during the attitude era and could've done a lot more then he was allowed to, he's experienced and talented, and he's not THAT old at all. Edge is a top star in WWE, isn't he? Chris Jericho is a top star in WWE, isn't he? Kurt Angle is a top star in TNA, isn't he? Morley's no older then any of them. Morley still has a lot to offer and I think he proved that by lastnight. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the segment he was in, or his part in it, and in fact it was better then 80% of the rest of the show. That's saying something! People need to stop the blind hate and give Morley a chance, because he's not like the other talent that's been brought in by Hogan/Bischoff. Morley can wrestle, he can talk, he's got charisma, he's got experience, he's got recognition, and he's got potential and those are all things in his favor. I for one am looking forward to seeing where he goes.

There's a lot (A LOT) of things to complain and criticize about TNA and their product, but Sean Morley isn't one of them.

 

[NSL]

I AM LEAVING MY MIND OPEN ON HIM BECAUSE HE HAS ONLY DONE ONE PROMO AND HAS ME STARTING TO BELIEVE AND I AM ALWAYS SUPER SKEPTICAL OF EVERY ONE AND EVERY THING. WE WILL SEE?

Just a small correction, he's done more than 1. Remember him playing strip poker with the Beautiful People?

It may not have been much, but it was far better than his crap on Thursday.

I probably couldn't care less about Sean Morley. For all intents and purposes, he's doing something very similar to what he did in the WWE the first few years he was there with the whole porn schtick. Yeah yeah, he's a producer now and not an actor or whatever.

I'm not necessarily against him being in TNA or anything, it's just that I don't give a crap. I mean...ok, so Sean Morley is in TNA. I don't hate it, I don't care for it. Overall, he's just someone to make me change the channel.

This man gets me.

I was against it initially, but then put some thought into it, and realized he's not so bad. He's not that old, he still has some stuff for the ring, and he can be entertaining. But, is he needed? Is he a game changer? No, and no.

Also, I've been a big supporter of TNA trying to bring in jobbers, so this isn't exactly a bad move, if he stays in a "talent enhancement" type role. He can work with just about anybody, and keep top stars elevated, while boosting the mid-carders.

 

[Theo Mays]

Morley's promo on Impact was decent if you put the laugh to the side. The laugh got annoying after the 2nd go at it. Morley has always been a favorite of mine. He is a good enhancement guy. He will put people over and make them look good. I don't see him playing a big role. Maybe a few matches and a PPV or two. Then he can take a backstage role of some sorts until released from his contract.

 

[RKO18]

To me the Morley segment on iMPACT was the lowest part of the show. I just kept saying to myself that I didnt care for the gimmick in 98 and I really dont care for it at all right now. I dont think I am alone as it seemed that the fans in the iMPACT Zone didnt care too much either. There just isnt much you can do with this type of character. So hes a producer now? Who the fuck cares?

He proved in 2000 during his IC run that he was a capable performer. Same in 2002/2003 as Bischoffs assistant, so maybe they should go that direction with him. Or just a total repackage as he still has a decent look and good size to be a solid performer in TNA's main-event scene.

 

[JulesWagner]

I cannot believe all of this hate for Sean Morley. I can't believe people are trying to slam and go on about Sean Morley, and yet everyone seems fine with Hogan? Nash? Waltman? Orlando Jordan? I mean, seriously, Sean Morley is the least person of any of the people debuting with the Hogan/Bischoff era that people should be complaining about.

Just in case you might not have been paying attention in the last few months, there are a LOT of people dissing Nash, Hall, Bischoff, Hogan and especially the Nasty Boys! The fact of the matter is, this is a SEAN MORLEY THREAD! Soooooooooo, there you go. I understand you appreciate the guy, and so do I. I respect his wrestling talent, but what I, and obviously other people, are saying is that his Thursday night promo was an absolute turn-off, period. And as far as I'm concerned, if he's actually supposed to be the Face in this feud, then this is definitely not the approach to it because I don't see anybody wanting to cheer for someone that sounds like a creepy 50-year old pedophile right out of a trailer park. Unless they REALLY, REALLY, REAAAALLY don't like Daniels.

 

[TLC]

All this hate saddens me

On topic I like that Sean has a place on the roster. I really like this guy. He is pretty good on the mic and looks to be in pretty good shape. Hopefully he is pretty good in the ring as he has always been solid. I can only really see him having parts with the knock outs and being used as a jobber but that's okay with me as I will just like having him around. Also his laugh is fucking hystericle. Everytime he did it I started laughing.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

Morley's laugh most definitely killed his promo on Impact last week, and the crowd clearly did not like him. He was a thrill seeing upon his Impact debut for nostalgic sake, but clearly they don't want to cheer him.

I would have hoped they would have picked that up tonight for the PPV, but apparently they still did not, and Daniels, despite being a heel, was overwhelmingly the favorite amongst the crowd.

It's rather obvious that Morley needs to be a Heel here, as the crowd is certainly going to ruin everything if they try to keep him a Face.

As far as his character, I am fine with them doing a grown up director role, and think its actually unique that they actually expanded his career working for a new organization. In essence, Russo figured out a way to continue the Val Venis character in TNA and actually grew him up in the process, which is a nice spin on things.

Somehow, they need to make him a Heel, though, or the crowd will ruin any and all segments he stars in.

 

[dangerduck2]

I like the idea that Sean Morley wants to start a short film gimmick in TNA. I think it will add a different element to TNA that will only gain interest, but it should be about multiple things, not just "strip poker" & sexually related storylines.

Also, he should have his own "crew" & "supporting cast members" for guys in TNA that don't have any major storyline going on. Those people should be a number of guys/knockouts who aren't in title pictures or wrestling fueds, such as:

- Scott Steiner, who needs something to do until he gets involved with Hogan.
- Orlando Jordan, who nobody cares about & can be used as a errand boy/joke on-camera.
- So Cal Val, who hasn't done anything major since she turned on Jay Lethal for Sonjay Dutt.
- Alex Shelley. Remember when he used to walk around with his own camera, so this could be a way to get him over. Let Chris Sabin go back to fighting for the X Division title.

Here's some ideas for the films:
1. TNA's TNA- This is a given. They could use Morley's "Val Venis" type of shows, with Steiner as the star featuring those like The Beautiful People. You saw the poker game.

2. Elevating Fueds- They could show a different side to fueds & add fuel to the fire by either exposing true betrayals or manipulating the truth. For example, they could videotape Flair talking to AJ backstage, that he needs to be less of a goody two shoes & get a little dirty with his game. Or, show him on the phone to an unknown person "talking on the phone about how he will do whatever he can so that Angle won't win the championship 16 times like him." They can even use SoCal to add tension to Knockout fueds, with like TBP, or Tara/ODB.

3. Punk'ed- Have Alex Shelley "punk" other TNA talent members like celebrities on the mtv show. Call this one something else like "Shelled" & it would be hilarious.

4. Misc. Short Films- Random things with a "special guest." Feature one superstar on these films for one impact taping & have the cameras follow him through the week. For example, have Jordan, spend the whole show tracking Sting in the rafters & in the crowd on camera, & at the end have him get Scorpion Death Dropped at the end. Things like that.

I know this isn't wrestling, but would be entertaining. Any other ideas or reasons why this wouldn't work? Opinions?

 

[wazaveli]

Considering he can actually wrestle, U cannot put him in the same excuse bracket for the rest of the new guys ( Same for Jeff Hardy ). I enjoy him on TV, and if he can still go and this is what he does for a living and he thinks he still has a lot to offer then good for him.