Undertaker lost the streak so John Cena can kick his ass

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I have a feeling that WWE wanted
• To have John Cena vs. The Undertaker at WM31
• To have John Cena beat The Undertaker

But of course, they can't have Cena beat the streak. He would be instantly hated forever.

So instead, they had Brock beat Taker, get some heel heat, and then lose to Cena at SummerSlam. So by the time Taker comes back, he says he wants redemption, but not against Brock, but against the guy who beat him, John Cena. So Cena gets to beat Taker at Mania, without actually hurting the WWE Universe's precious streak.
 
Ever since joining this forum five years ago I have been begging for Taker vs. Cena at mania and for Cena to end the streak. Without the streak I have no interest in the match at all anymore.
 
Ever since joining this forum five years ago I have been begging for Taker vs. Cena at mania and for Cena to end the streak. Without the streak I have no interest in the match at all anymore.

I agree. I thought everything was building up to the moment when John Cena ended the streak. It would have been a huge main event. It would have had everyone second-guessing who was going to win. And when Cena pulled it off, it would be the biggest moment in pro wrestling.

And it would have done wonders for his character development. He would finally realize that being the best makes him the bad guy. And it's time to embrace it.

It's time to stop sucking up to the fans, to stop caring about what the "WWE Universe wants to see". John Cena isn't going to apologize for his success, for winning, or for being the best in this business. He will tell us that he doesn't regret a damn thing about anything.

He doesn't have to switch up his character, he doesn't have to start insulting fans, he doesn't have to do anything heelish, he just has to play the character that achieved more than he ever dreamed of--and deep inside he regrets it. But he's in denial, so he has to tell us that he doesn't care.

That would have helped me embrace 5-8 more years of John Cena.

But instead, we'll probably see him beat Undertaker and then hug him, and do some phony salute, followed by Undertaker tipping his hat to John the next night and calling it quits.
 
I'm glad Brock Lesnar beat the streak and not John Cena. Brock can now pass the torch to multiple guys like Cesaro, Reigns, Wyatt, AND Cena; while if it was Cena who beat the streak, he would keep the torch all to himself. I'm sure that's why Taker picked Brock and not Cena. And that's why if Undertaker does come back to have one last hurrah, he will pick the respected, selfless Sting as his opponent who has gotten given so many young wrestlers the rub, rather than Cena. Cena should be happy with "Thrice in a lifetime" getting the final match of the card, where he can beat The Rock again and pull every last torch out of him- all for himself.
 
Honestly I think Cena is going down at Summerslam. This match isn't to benefit a Cena vs. Taker Wrestlemania match, its to benefit the one who beats Lesnar for the title.
 
I'm glad Brock Lesnar beat the streak and not John Cena. Brock can now pass the torch to multiple guys like Cesaro, Reigns, Wyatt, AND Cena; while if it was Cena who beat the streak, he would keep the torch all to himself. I'm sure that's why Taker picked Brock and not Cena. And that's why if Undertaker does come back to have one last hurrah, he will pick the respected, selfless Sting as his opponent who has gotten given so many young wrestlers the rub, rather than Cena. Cena should be happy with "Thrice in a lifetime" getting the final match of the card, where he can beat The Rock again and pull every last torch out of him- all for himself.

Yes how dare the top face, who has already put over many people (Bryan, Sheamus, Edge, Punk, Ziggler, Miz, RVD, he even lost to Tensai), not lose more often. Obviously wins over Cena would still matter a lot if he were handing them out like candy. If Cena had just lost a few times before he lost to Bryan at Summerslam, think how over Bryan and so many other would have been. Top faces don't lose and when they do, it is rarely clean (Austin in 1999 was nearly god like, losing clean twice and one was in a triple threat match). Obviously Vince has no control over this Make-A-Wish, never take a day off monster. I feel like you personally hate him for your misguided view over what putting someone over means. Cena is about to lose to Lesnar. Lesnar can sure pass that torch in one of his 2-3 matches a year. Plus Cena is only 37. He isn't in jobbing age yet. One thing you have to understand is Rock and Austin only last a few years. That wasn't WWE's choice. Austin's neck died and Rock left. If they hadn't, they would have been on top for a long, long time just like Cena.

If you don't like his TV character, fine. But blatantly ignoring the massive positive impact he has had on wrestling is stupid. Ignoring all the people he put over. His excellent promo skills. His playing to the crowd skills (which more guys really need to do). Cena is a great wrestler. To say otherwise is wrong. You can say that in your opinion, he sucks. But then you would be wrong.

What about Bryan beating HHH, Batista and Orton in the same night? I mean that's just like SuperCena or some other stupid bullshit right (because no other face has ever overcome the odds, only Cena and no one else)? How about Punk kicking out of THREE Attitude Adjustments at MITB a few years ago?

Moving onto the topic of the thread. Why is everyone so sure Undertaker is coming back? The streak was the entire point of him coming back. I'm sure losing the streak, means he is retired. Why would they bring Taker back to lose again? That would make Brock's win mean a lot less. There would not be a big draw to it anymore. There wouldn't be any point to it.

That report of Taker working out in the gym again could just mean he wants to stay in shape. So I don't get why people think that means he is coming back.
 
If WWE ever decides to do the Cena heel turn (which they won't, but allow a dumb fuck his fantasy, okay?), he should keep his current character and just have him pitted against Bryan, Reigns and whoever's hot at the moment.

It'll be a heel turn without him actually ever turning heel. Then, after six months, he gets pitted against heels again (and acting like a tool) and everybody's happy, except for the most hardcore Cena-haters.
 
I wouldn't have wanted the match initially, I don't see the reason for it now. Lesnar ends The Streak so Cena can beat him? To what, cement his legacy further? If the legacy of John Cena is not not fully set I'd start using a different adhesive. Point being, doesn't work.
 
I wouldn't have wanted the match initially, I don't see the reason for it now. Lesnar ends The Streak so Cena can beat him? To what, cement his legacy further?

To make money. The match would be huge. They just don't want Cena to lose, but they don't want Taker to lose the streak to Cena either. They had someone else break the streak so Cena can beat Taker without causing a riot.
 
To make money. The match would be huge. They just don't want Cena to lose, but they don't want Taker to lose the streak to Cena either. They had someone else break the streak so Cena can beat Taker without causing a riot.

But the repercussions are that it'll likely turn Cena heel. There's also bigger matches for both men now that The Streak is broken. It would've worked like five years ago. As it stands, there are better options out there now I feel.
 
Cena thinks this thread is stupid. He is currently on his way to your house to take a healthy shit on your doorstep. Then he's going to teabag your mom with his stinky shit balls. He's a fucking pervert that way.
 
To make money. The match would be huge. They just don't want Cena to lose, but they don't want Taker to lose the streak to Cena either. They had someone else break the streak so Cena can beat Taker without causing a riot.

Why wouldn't they want Cena to end the Streak? Because the fans will riot? Uh nah, the only thing that would happen if Cena broke Takers streak would be his fans would fangirl that much harder, and his haters would take to their keyboards to quench their unrelenting rage... I doubt WWE had Brock Lesnar end the Streak just so John Cena can beat Taker the year after. There's no payoff in that baud.
 
Why wouldn't they want Cena to end the Streak? Because the fans will riot? Uh nah, the only thing that would happen if Cena broke Takers streak would be his fans would fangirl that much harder, and his haters would take to their keyboards to quench their unrelenting rage... I doubt WWE had Brock Lesnar end the Streak just so John Cena can beat Taker the year after. There's no payoff in that baud.

Cena would come off as a heel if he ended the streak. He's supposed to be the ultimate nice guy. Ruining a legend's career and taking away something he has worked hard for 25 years is a dick move. Especially when Undertaker is old and frail and beating him in 2014 is like taking advantage of how he's out of his prime.
 
Cena would come off as a heel if he ended the streak. He's supposed to be the ultimate nice guy. Ruining a legend's career and taking away something he has worked hard for 25 years is a dick move. Especially when Undertaker is old and frail and beating him in 2014 is like taking advantage of how he's out of his prime.

So, then what does beating him after the streak has already been broken accomplish? So Cena could say he did it too? That seems like a douchey thing to do. There's no longer any reason to have Taker vs. Cena at Mania. Nobody has anything to gain from it.
 
But of course, they can't have Cena beat the streak. He would be instantly hated forever.

That's what I figured the original plan was for WM30. It seemed Cena was headed for a long-awaited heel turn, but it was going to take a monumental event to convince the fans it was really happening. Ending the streak would surely have been big enough....and the OP is right; fans would hate Cena because of it. Bad guys like being hated.....so it would have worked.

Add the fact that Cena was the only one in the company big enough to end Undertaker's streak (which is something I believed until I watched Brock pin Undertaker's shoulders to the mat) and we'd have a two-pronged change of course worthy of a Wrestlemania.

Sure, they can have Cena defeat 'Taker at WM31, but the only thing it would accomplish is to give Cena the turn toward the evil side while giving Mark Calaway one last stack of greenbacks to count as he basks in retirement under the Arizona sun.
 

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