Triple H's Offense.

[S'All Goodman]

After seeing Triple H beat down Ziggler at Survivor Series on Sunday, it made me wonder, is anyone on the roster as good as Triple H on the offense?

I can't think of anybody on the roster who can make a beat down look so brutal and so realistic as much as Triple H can. I've never been a huge fan of him but he is a class above the rest in this aspect.

Can anybody think who is better than HHH on the current roster at doing this?

I apologize is this makes absolutely no sense, it was just something that i wondered.

 

[Make it Reign]

Brock lesnar or Batista if you count those 2 but Batista didnt come back near as strong as when he left which disappointed. Randy orton could but he hasnt shown that side since before aligning himself with the authority. To sum up the answer, currently noone.

 

[GI Cake]

Well Vader was pretty much the expert of making any match he looked like a bar brawl. Then again, he was an asshole who threw punches because that was what assholes did back in the day.

 

[snazzy]

Lesnar is an obvious first pick. Every match with Lesnar genuinely looks like it hurts. Just think back to Cena v Lesnar at Extreme Rules. I also agree Triple H is great at it.

An outside pick, I always wince watching Titus O'Neill beat down people.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

Apart from possibly Lesnar, the answer is No.

Triple H is a master of making everything he does in the ring look realistic and like it causes damage. He's well known as being a fan of the likes of The Horsemen, Harley Race and alot of stars of the NWA era, who's style was alot more gritty and realistic than WWE wrestlers. He's incorporated alot of this into his offence. He doesn't have a flashy moveset, but every single move in his arsenal is delivered properly and with impact. Each move means something.

Plus, Triple H is always great at portraying emotion through his facial expressions, and when he gets mad it really does look like he wants to beat the shit out of someone. In my eyes, The Game is one of the greatest of all time.

 

[Stan Hansen]

HHH is one of the greatest of all time. His in ring work, promo work, it's all great. He gets heat from fans for his "golden shovel" which for the most part is a big load of bull. The guy is a great worker, can talk, he can work a match with just about anyone, he's been a main event level star for a long time. He can tell a story in the ring like no other, that's something WWE sorely lacks in the current roster.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

HHH is one of the greatest of all time. His in ring work, promo work, it's all great. He gets heat from fans for his "golden shovel" which for the most part is a big load of bull. The guy is a great worker, can talk, he can work a match with just about anyone, he's been a main event level star for a long time. He can tell a story in the ring like no other, that's something WWE sorely lacks in the current roster.

Exactly right. While he has used his influence in the past to remain on top- that's no different than most top stars throughout WWE's history, there is no doubt in my mind that Hunter is as good as they come in the ring.

I'd be more than happy for The Game to come back to the ring on a full-time schedule, but I'd settle for him just wrestling a bit more frequently. The current WWE roster is extremely talented, but in my eyes alot of them are just lacking that little "something" that the top guys have. They could do alot worse than watching Triple H every time he is in the ring- that's how you work a top level match. He's that damn good.

 

[chuckmdubya]

Triple H is beyond excellent in the ring, certainly one of the top guys in history. The guy can make it look like he's really hurting someone. Even his use of the sledge hammer looks semi-realistic, which is something that could quickly end a career or life if its done wrong.
One thing most fans don't mention when praising HHH's in ring skill is his timing. I bet you have never seen him mis-time a knee lift or sidewalk slam. When hitting the ropes there is no one better. Moves like powerbombs and suplexes also require precisely timed reactions to opponents movements and no one times better than HHH. You'll never see him drop an opponent wrong on a powerbomb, suplex, backdrop, or even pedigree.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

A name that hasn't been mentioned is JBL.

He really looked like he was beating the tar out of people. His clothesline itself was one of the most simple yet vicious moves I've ever seen.

As far as anyone on the current roster, as has been stated, Lesnar is the only one. And that is a problem. Even the current "alpha-male/monsters" like Rusev or Ryback don't really have that extra little piece of aggression.

 

[L@RISANO]

I'd put Brock Lesnar as mentioned and also, when he is really on his game and actually not phoning it in, Randy Orton(who obviously probably learned it from HHH himself).

Randy Orton, can make it look as though he will slowly torture a person to within an inch of his life, and actually look like some sort of serial killer who enjoys doing it so slowly, something which his actual in-ring style also portrays brilliantly. He is also quite good at selling beatings as well, as shown when the Authority beat him down a few weeks ago, and actually got sympathy from many seeing how he brilliantly he sold it.


Brock Lesnar obviously with his brute style, just makes it look as though he can break someone in half and actually transfers that to the ring. It is all apart of what gets people interested in seeing him, no doubt.


One other guy perhaps, is Mark Henry when he is portrayed as a true Brute Strong man. His latest beating on the Big Show and the way he carries himself when doing it, really shows him as someone who could break his opponent in half when on his game.

 

[L@RISANO]

Triple H is beyond excellent in the ring, certainly one of the top guys in history. The guy can make it look like he's really hurting someone. Even his use of the sledge hammer looks semi-realistic, which is something that could quickly end a career or life if its done wrong.
One thing most fans don't mention when praising HHH's in ring skill is his timing. I bet you have never seen him mis-time a knee lift or sidewalk slam. When hitting the ropes there is no one better. Moves like powerbombs and suplexes also require precisely timed reactions to opponents movements and no one times better than HHH. You'll never see him drop an opponent wrong on a powerbomb, suplex, backdrop, or even pedigree.

I love when Triple H kicks someone in the gut to setup the Pedigree.
It is brilliant all the time when he does it and genuinely looks as though he hurt the opponent when he does it.

 

[Trance Metaphor]

No one. Triple H is the only guy left that does the brutal beatdown brawler style offence. All of his moves carry a lot of impact upon execution. I like his spinebuster in particular because it looks like he's driving the guy into the mat with all of his weight. I just wish he'd do his jumping knee lift and that neck breaker he used to do. Both moves were vicious signatures. He was the only guy that looked convincing against Brock Lesnar during Brock Lesnar's return run.

 

[HHHamiltonGuy]

I get a kick out of people that try to say he keeps people down,he has the worst Wrestlemania record ever.Puts others over all the time and only wins when it makes more sense story wise and it's always to set up a bigger loss further down the road.

His in ring abilities are mostly unmatched,he can carry bad wrestlers and make good ones look great.

His set up for the pedigree looks awesome.

He sells others finishers very well.

 

[HurriKane]

Triple H is amazing. You have the people that will hate him because he didn't put over someone like Booker-t or Rob Van Dam back in 02 or 03, but I honestly think he's one of the best heels ever. His matches with Mick Foley, with The Undertaker, with Shawn Michaels, hell even with Batista are all classics in my opinion. Some will say he only works with the guys that draws the money. Well Daniel Bryan was not a top draw but he still made him look like a million bucks at WM. Triple H helped elevate Batista and Randy Orton, and John Cena's victory over him at Mania really solidified Cena as a main-eventer star.

Now I will say 13 title reigns are a little much, but I still think very few wrestlers who can make the way they wrestle as vicious as Triple H.

 

[Terry Silver]

Triple h is the man. End of story. I still want him to wrestle regularly.

 

[BuriedByCena]

Hardcore Holly deserves a mention. That guy was legit. He fought very stiff and actually beat people in the ring half the time depending on how much he respected you.

Chris Benoit gets a mention for being so intense and fast paced. Every chop, every headbutt and every move in general had a purpose and it looked like he was really hurting you. His last run on smackdown was great. He would never let his opponent catch their breath.

 

[capnwillie]

Luke Harper's name will be on this list in the near future, probably. His recent matches against Ziggler and Ambrose featured a lot of stiff-looking clotheslines and let's not forget DAT POWERBOMB. I'm looking forward to watching his progression, and I think the WWE will benefit from his Bruiser Brody-esque brawling style.

 

[CrucifiedRaven]

Triple H is very underrated. Yes, his offense is good. But more importantly, he's probably a top 5 heel of all time. If not the best. Everything about him is designed for you to hate him. Watching Survivor Series really made me appreciate just how good of a heel he is. He is absolutely despicable. Everything about him... his actions, his look, his face... He is the best at making you want to hate him, and he has been getting nuclear heat since 1999. Really think about who is a better heel than Triple H?

 

[ColeMc]

Okay, he's great on the mic, great in the ring, but WTF was he doing quoting the monologue from A Few Good Men for on Monday?

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

Triple H is very underrated. Yes, his offense is good. But more importantly, he's probably a top 5 heel of all time. If not the best. Everything about him is designed for you to hate him. Watching Survivor Series really made me appreciate just how good of a heel he is. He is absolutely despicable. Everything about him... his actions, his look, his face... He is the best at making you want to hate him, and he has been getting nuclear heat since 1999. Really think about who is a better heel than Triple H?

Exactly right. I remember when he was leading the McMahon-Helmsley regime back in 2000 (I think)- and I absolutely hated the guy. I was desperate to see The Rock beat him for the title, but as I got older I began to appreciate just how good he was/is. I enjoy his work as a Face, but he really is much better as a bad guy- it seems so much more natural for him rather than the forced comedy of the last incarnation of DX a few years ago.

I can't think of anyone in my time as a wrestling fan who was a better heel than Triple H, except Vince McMahon during the Attitude Era.

 

[Miko]

Triple H works so well as a heel for the same reason he sucks as a face, he's not funny and he's a total wanker, also he's a snidey shitball who always has to get the last word, even if that last word is totally pathetic. In truth, I'll always hold 2002/3 against him, since Kane, Booker and Van Dam could've and should've been much bigger than they were, but where everywhere else is concerned, the guy is top notch and his work as a heel is terrific. And his work as a heel is terrific because of what is mentioned in the OP, the guy can be a cowardly, snidey wanker, but as soon as he's got the upper hand he'll beat opponents senseless, and it does look real.

 

[LuckyLouie]

While he is not my all time favorite, just like John Cena its very hard to hate or dislike him for the past 15 years of the work he has done.
Trips might have been down the road and took a few strange gimmick turns here and there, but he was always a beast in a ring. Great intense promos and matches that were sold very very well. I dont remember any matches that made me wonder what the hell was Triple H doing.

The only other person on the roster who can make a match/beatdown as brutal as Hunter is Lesnar. And we all know why.

On this roster, thats is it.
If they let Harper be Harper, he could be a great technical brawler in ring. I like his matches right now and im sure he will just get better over time.
Same can be said for Cesaro, he is a main event start waiting to happen, they just need to get rid of Stunning Cesaro and let him be his natural Stone Cold Cesaro. If that makes sense for you guys.
Ryback almost makes all his matches look brutal. Against jobbers he is Goldberg, but anyone else on the roster he is not that much of a threat.

JBL could whoop some ass back in the day and make it look shocking real sometimes. Thanks to the close line.

The one they dropped the ball with was Santino Marella before he was called up, he had a great russian wrestler gimmick. He was a mix of Goldberg and Angle. I was a couple of his early matches and he was throwing the guys around. I though he always looked great.
Chris Hero would have made a great addition.

 

[bioshock]

It does help that HHH has the angry look, and well some big muscles still > roids? And I think he always makes sure he is in that role to be like that. Where as they try and make any other heel look weak besides him. So I don't think its so much HHH, I just think they hold guys back on what they can and cant do. How many others are allowed to beat up 2 refs and still keep a match going? Name the last time Orton ever did that.

 

[CKDaimen702]

I will have to go with the obvious answer in Brock Lesnar. He makes it look effortless every time he steps in a ring...this goes back to his first WWE tenure as well.

Interesting thread topic.