Triple H Calls UFC Out Of Touch - Pot-Kettle-Black?

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Didn't see a thread, but I feel this is worthy of discussing.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/242090-triple-h-says-ufc-needs-to-evolve-more-than-wwe

He claims UFC needs to evolve more than WWE amongst other things.

and then he goes on to claim WWE always gives you a good show.

I call BS on both!

UFC just signed a huge deal with a MAJOR network, FOX and will be broadcasting live fights on Network TV, something the WWE does not do. a Mediocre UFC PPV from a buys perspective is still around 500,000, most WWE PPV's do not compare, a good card will garner close to 800,000, and the big time shows are well over 1,000,000 buys.

WWE never gives us a bad show? Uh did Triple H watch RAW this week? LOL!

To me this just shows the bubble WWE top dogs live in, WWE is the one that is out of touch, when they constantly push guys who are completely uninteresting, or how they do the same thing over and over again.

Seriously this company needs to get real.
 
I agree. If Paul thinks people actually want to see Cena bury people far more talented than Cena every week, then that just proves he's a complete moronic douche. I'd personally rather watch Forrest Griffin bash some guy's face in less than a minute than watch a 10 minute Cena match with the notorious "Moves of Doom".
 
What separates WWE from MMA is that Wrestling Matches are supposed to revolve around telling stories. MMA matches are literally just finding out who is better. They're completely different audiences and the only thing that they have in common is that sunday night PPV timeslot. They're advertised differently, they have different purposes, different methods, different everything. The only reason people say they're so similar is because they share the most basic fundamental possible: two guys in an enclosed area "going against each other". Just because Jim Cornette says that UFC is Pro Wrestling doesn't make it fact. UFC is about as much Pro Wrestling as BOXING is Pro Wrestling.
 
Actually, I think that MMA is closer to the definition of pro wrestling than WWE is at this point in that these men grapple professionally whereas WWE is just entertainment in sports formatting.

I don't have a problem with what HHH says because he was just defending what he does for a living against a rival company. He was right in his assessment that it's two different products but they're going after the same audience. What he said was true also about bringing some of the entertainment to the form, they don't need to have angles and gimmicks and stuff like that but it would help them grow faster than they already are if they had some guys with more personality. This isn't boxing in the 1940's when it was a big time form of entertainment so guys like Joe Louis can just go in and fight and that's it. They're vying for the viewership with a lot of other things on the tube so they need to stand out a bit more. The guys that are the big talkers like Mayweather in boxing and Rampage in MMA are the ones that are crossing over the most. Some of these guys aren't talkers and that's okay but it would help them become more known. There are a lot of tremendous athletes in MMA but most of them are unknown outside of MMA circles. Anderson Silva is one of my favorites but the average person doesn't know who he is if they've never watched a UFC event. A lot of people I know that have never watched the sport know who Kimbo Slice is though.

If they do try this though, I hope they know where to draw the line because MMA is where I go to watch actual athleticism in this form.
 
I do agree with Triple H in that the WWE doesn't need to evolve into what the UFC is. Despite being similar in some areas, Pro Wrestling & MMA are very different products.

The beauty of MMA is that you can't guarantee a great fight. You can throw two good fighters in the cage and wish for the best, but that's all you can do. MMA is very unpredictable. Anybody can lose on any given day and that's why people order the PPVs. The UFC doesn't really need to evolve. They could improve on video packages and minor stuff like that, but for the most part there is really nothing they can improve on. Dana White, Joe Silva and the Fertitta Brothers know what they are doing. They don't try to make the UFC into this giant entertainment spectacle because that's not what the UFC and MMA is. It's fighting, so they book it like a combat sport. They don't hire Cee-Lo Green to waste time on their PPV because they have nothing worth while to put in it's place. People don't order to watch this kind of stuff, and the guys that run the UFC know it.

The sad part is about the WWE is that you can guarantee that a match and a PPV is going to be great, but for the most part they disappoint. The fact of the matter is that when you can predetermine what is going to happen, you should be 100% sure that you are giving the fans the best possible matches and feuds.
 
the last time I checked,

UFC is fight sports while WWE is sports entertainment.

UFC is real while WWE is scripted.

you can't compare these two because they are two different sports. Although WWE's PPV buys only enter the top 10 on one event - and that is wrestlemania, the rest is dominated by boxing and MMA. And oh, I believe wrestlemania didn't even enter the top 10 in 2010.
 
the last time I checked,

UFC is fight sports while WWE is sports entertainment.

UFC is real while WWE is scripted.

you can't compare these two because they are two different sports. Although WWE's PPV buys only enter the top 10 on one event - and that is wrestlemania, the rest is dominated by boxing and MMA. And oh, I believe wrestlemania didn't even enter the top 10 in 2010.

This is very true. The UFC/WWE comparison has never held much merit. The UFC got that huge deal with FOX because they are a sport. WWE is an entertainment show no different from a recorded theater performance or circus.

Triple H is right about the UFC. For the price you pay, the fights can be rather unsatisfying with how quickly they end or how long they drag. I don't pay for GSP fights mainly because I'm not interested in watching him lay on another man for 25 minutes.
 
Yeah this was pretty ridiculous on HHH's part no doubt. News Flash HHH, UFC DID in fact change and changed a lot when Dana White became president, UFC went from a company with few rules, no weight classes and little profit to a legitimate sport that makes millions of dollars a year (a lot more than WWE makes) with killer PPV buys and is the hottest combat promotion on the planet, the UFC basically legitimized MMA.

UFC has great feuds and matches people will actually PAY to watch (like Carwin vs. Dos Santos in June or Jones vs. Rampage in 8 days) those 2 matches alone will make the UFC more money and get more PPV buys than all of WWE's PPV's combined (excluding Wrestlemania). So what if the fights are sometimes boring or they last 10 seconds, its irrelevant and something that can happen when the fights aren't pre-determined like in wrestling. Not only that these matches are built so much that people will pay their hard earned money to watch them because its something they want to see, the buildup to the match makes more money than the actual match itself (obviously because if you don't care for the match you won't buy it even if its the greatest match of all time).

Bottom line is UFC offers matches and feuds people want to see, WWE has 1 feud and even that is starting to stale out. UFC makes more money than WWE and won't have to change because its a legit sport not sports entertainment, all the UFC has to do is be legit and give matches people want to watch, WWE has to be entertaining.
 
Iagree. If Paul thinks people actually want to see Cena bury people far more talented than Cena every week, then that just proves he's a complete moronic douche. I'd personally rather watch Forrest Griffin bash some guy's face in less than a minute than watch a 10 minute Cena match with the notorious "Moves of Doom".

A-fuckin-men!! Couldn't have said it better myself!!
 
I think it's funny that most of the people who are criticizing Triple H probably didn't even read what he said, they just saw he said UFC should change, and they started criticizing.

Triple H didn't say UFC wasn't doing good business. He just said there is so much room for improvement for the fan's entertainment, and he's absolutely right. Everything he said was right on the money. Sometimes you do get long boring fights. Sometimes you pay a lot of money for a fight that doesn't even last 5 minutes (Belfort vs. Silva? Almost all Lesnar fights?). The UFC is doing well, but at some point, fans might think to themselves "I don't want to pay $50-60 for a fight that lasts three minutes. $20 a minute for entertainment just isn't that good of a deal".

What Triple H is saying is the UFC needs to evolve to find other ways to provide entertainment and interest the fans, so they'll KEEP spending their money on the UFC when watching the UFC is no longer the cool thing to do. And is examples of Lesnar and Mayweather are spot on.

I think more people need to read the article and understand what Trips is saying before they come to bash him.
 
As the offspring song goes you gotta keep em seperated!! WWE and MMA are completely different while the same!! MMA matches are not scrpited unlike the WWE matches are!! FOR Trips to call ufc out of touch i think he needs to stick to subjects he knows about!!! The Ufc is not one of em!! Last time i checked the UFC is doing pretty well on their own from marketing standpoing to landing a new major deal on network TV primetime Shit can you get any better then Cain Valesquez vs Junior Dos Santos for the heavyweight title??? I dont call that out of touch at all!! More and more People are tuning into MMA because who wants to see Super Cena bury people for years and years on end?? On any given day said fighter can beat said fighter!! Thats what makes MMA so good you think who might win and then your suprised always keeps you on the edge of your seat!! When was the last time WWE did this???
 
I think it's funny that most of the people who are criticizing Triple H probably didn't even read what he said, they just saw he said UFC should change, and they started criticizing.

Triple H didn't say UFC wasn't doing good business. He just said there is so much room for improvement for the fan's entertainment, and he's absolutely right. Everything he said was right on the money. Sometimes you do get long boring fights. Sometimes you pay a lot of money for a fight that doesn't even last 5 minutes (Belfort vs. Silva? Almost all Lesnar fights?). The UFC is doing well, but at some point, fans might think to themselves "I don't want to pay $50-60 for a fight that lasts three minutes. $20 a minute for entertainment just isn't that good of a deal".

What Triple H is saying is the UFC needs to evolve to find other ways to provide entertainment and interest the fans, so they'll KEEP spending their money on the UFC when watching the UFC is no longer the cool thing to do. And is examples of Lesnar and Mayweather are spot on.

I think more people need to read the article and understand what Trips is saying before they come to bash him.

The thing is though Slyfox the UFC does do things that go beyond what happens in the ring.

HHH was right on one part when he said Floyd Mayweather makes the most money because he has the biggest mouth, that is true but that always happens in the UFC prior to the match, before every UFC PPV they always have a package of interviews of fighters and what they are saying before the event actually starts. In '08 when Rampage beat Silva that match was sold on Wanderlei saying he be Rampage twice and he looks forward to destroying him again, Rampage is popular because of his personality.

Same in July '09 when Lesnar fought Mir, Mir said he wanted Lesnar to be the first person to die in the octagon which put a lot of fuel on the fire, both matches led to massive PPV buys because of the history and feud both matches had, most of that was built outside the Octagon not in it. There is a lot more to the UFC than what happens in the Octagon and that's what builds it.

Not only that history has shown that people will ALWAYS buy matches they want to see or matches with fighters they want to see. The best example of this is Mike Tyson. Tyson was one of the biggest box office draws in Boxing history and people always paid to watch him fight even though the populous knew that Tyson was gonna annihilate his opponent in 5 minutes or less.

Lastly we have Brock Lesnar, even though he pounds away and can destroy most of his opponents it was his mouth that made him so popular even though it wasn't in a good way. I cannot count how many people I knew that watched Lesnar fights just because they couldn't wait for someone to kick his head in, his Mir fight, his Carwin fight were both perfect examples of this. People paid to see Brock Lesnar lose because they didn't think he was worthy of being UFC champion because he did it in 4 MMA fights and his mouth. Lesnar being a mouthy prick to the likes of Couture and Mir is what made those fights so successful.

UFC will NEVER need more entertainment than they already have, they already build the fights better than any promotion on the planet, they give their fighters mic time so people can get to know them on a personal level and they put on fights people want to see.

GSP fights are boring but people still pay to watch them (I guarantee when he fights Anderson Silva people will pay), same with guys like Dos Santos and Lesnar destroying opponents in 5 minutes, the fans know what they are getting most of the time but because its legit, and its fighters and feuds people want to see they watch (like I said when people payed to watch Tyson win in 3 rounds or less).
 
Besides CM Punk who has a martial arts background, how many of the WWE "entertainers" could actually hack being in a UFC bout? Hell Big show bombed as a boxer. Paul needs to stick to picking bad talent and scripted TV.

His comment is as bad as when WCW thought David Arquette would bring them ratings.
 
I've already commented on this, but I don't mind replying again.

It is true that at times you get short and abrupt endings to some UFC fights, but that's realism for you. In real life, fights can end in any way at any time. That's the beauty of it. And if you feel that you haven't gotten your money's worth, you can always look forward to pre-match interviews, weigh-ins, promos, and other shows like The Ultimate Fighter, to get more out the UFC. The feud between Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Rashad Evans is a good example of entertainment from the UFC.

Bottom line is, realistic, intense and controversial fights are the new draw. Sports-Entertainment has gone without a change for years, while MMA has breathed new life in competitive sports, which was something that pro-wrestling could've done itself.
 
I think another thing that most people are forgetting is that unlike boxing UFC isn't just about one fight, I wouldn't order a PPV for GSP, but theres usually atleast 2 other promising fights on a PPV card worth paying for.

And as far as boring fights go, hey that happens when your dealing with a real sport. Football has bad games, basketball has bad games, and imo baseball is nothing but boring lol, just because you pay for MMA doesn't guarantee you a 5 round war. There have been plenty of losers where boxing is concerned but like I said atleast you have a whole undercard worth of fights to watch if the main-event sucks.

Now whats WWEs excuse for putting on a bad show when they plan the whole thing out?
 
Besides CM Punk who has a martial arts background, how many of the WWE "entertainers" could actually hack being in a UFC bout? Hell Big show bombed as a boxer. Paul needs to stick to picking bad talent and scripted TV.

His comment is as bad as when WCW thought David Arquette would bring them ratings.

I'm not sure CM Punk's martial arts background is actually legitimized or just a thing commentators say to sell his kicks. Daniel Bryan, however, could be a legit fighter. He trains at Randy Couture's school in Las Vegas.
 
Like someone earlier said, Triple H is just defending what he does against a rival, of course he's gonna put it over. Especially when he's in such a prominent role on TV and behind the scenes. Honestly, how well do you think it would go over if he said "Oh yeah, UFC is great, it's blowing us out of the water, but we like doing what we do, so we're fine, but they're just so much better," or something to that effect. He would get crucified by everyone, his standing would be severely damaged if he said something like that.

But if you want to hear a great take on the whole MMA vs. Pro Wrestling, I highly recommend listening to Paul Heyman's interview with Ariel Helwani on the MMA Hour. It's about an hour and a half long, and it's amazing. On itunes, I believe it's episode 46 or something, but it's free, so I would definitely give it a listen, since it pertains to this topic incredibly well.
 
The thing is though Slyfox the UFC does do things that go beyond what happens in the ring.

HHH was right on one part when he said Floyd Mayweather makes the most money because he has the biggest mouth, that is true but that always happens in the UFC prior to the match, before every UFC PPV they always have a package of interviews of fighters and what they are saying before the event actually starts. In '08 when Rampage beat Silva that match was sold on Wanderlei saying he be Rampage twice and he looks forward to destroying him again, Rampage is popular because of his personality.

Same in July '09 when Lesnar fought Mir, Mir said he wanted Lesnar to be the first person to die in the octagon which put a lot of fuel on the fire, both matches led to massive PPV buys because of the history and feud both matches had, most of that was built outside the Octagon not in it. There is a lot more to the UFC than what happens in the Octagon and that's what builds it.

Not only that history has shown that people will ALWAYS buy matches they want to see or matches with fighters they want to see. The best example of this is Mike Tyson. Tyson was one of the biggest box office draws in Boxing history and people always paid to watch him fight even though the populous knew that Tyson was gonna annihilate his opponent in 5 minutes or less.

Lastly we have Brock Lesnar, even though he pounds away and can destroy most of his opponents it was his mouth that made him so popular even though it wasn't in a good way. I cannot count how many people I knew that watched Lesnar fights just because they couldn't wait for someone to kick his head in, his Mir fight, his Carwin fight were both perfect examples of this. People paid to see Brock Lesnar lose because they didn't think he was worthy of being UFC champion because he did it in 4 MMA fights and his mouth. Lesnar being a mouthy prick to the likes of Couture and Mir is what made those fights so successful.

UFC will NEVER need more entertainment than they already have, they already build the fights better than any promotion on the planet, they give their fighters mic time so people can get to know them on a personal level and they put on fights people want to see.

GSP fights are boring but people still pay to watch them (I guarantee when he fights Anderson Silva people will pay), same with guys like Dos Santos and Lesnar destroying opponents in 5 minutes, the fans know what they are getting most of the time but because its legit, and its fighters and feuds people want to see they watch (like I said when people payed to watch Tyson win in 3 rounds or less).

Look at the guys you mentioned. Brock Lesnar is a former pro wrestler. Rampage Jackson is old and dangerously close to not longer being relevant. Mir is no longer relevant. I agree those guys have personality, but it's the fighter's personality, not the company's.

And what happens when those guys are no longer around? MMA is evolving, and there seems to be much fewer guys with personality than there has been in a while. Do you think if you put Frank Mir on a card with no one else advertised it's going to sell? If Rampage loses to Jones convincingly, is anyone going to think Rampage can ever be a title contender again?

But if you put John Cena's name on the marquee, you're selling tickets. Wrestlemania did 1 million PPV buys on the back of one wrestler's name and what he accomplished years ago. MCW is on television because it has the name Hulk Hogan attached to it.

Pro wrestling develops characters, UFC depends on them. Outside of GSP and Lesnar, the UFC doesn't really have any names they can put on a card and be guaranteed good buys. Lesnar has only fought twice since July 2009, and hasn't looked good either time. How much more is he going to give you?

Triple H is right, UFC has to evolve. There's nothing wrong with being a legitimate sport, that's the evolution they took to gain such mainstream acceptance. But right now they're riding a wave of popularity, but that popularity will eventually recede. How much it recedes will depend completely on they evolve, and how they can get fans emotionally invested in their fighters. That's what it is all about, getting fans to care about their fighters.

The Ultimate Fighter is a good way to do that, but it only showcases guys people don't know about, and many times won't see again. Why bother caring about someone who may not be around very long?

The WWE is evolving, and has been for a while. The UFC has evolved as well, but now that they have found their place in the sports world, they need to evolve to maximize their audience.
It is true that at times you get short and abrupt endings to some UFC fights, but that's realism for you. In real life, fights can end in any way at any time. That's the beauty of it. And if you feel that you haven't gotten your money's worth, you can always look forward to pre-match interviews, weigh-ins, promos, and other shows like The Ultimate Fighter, to get more out the UFC. The feud between Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Rashad Evans is a good example of entertainment from the UFC.

Are you telling me you pay $50-60 to watch pre-taped interviews and other segments which are aired for free?
I think another thing that most people are forgetting is that unlike boxing UFC isn't just about one fight, I wouldn't order a PPV for GSP, but theres usually atleast 2 other promising fights on a PPV card worth paying for.
Main-events draw. Main-events are what sells cards.

Those other fights may be exciting and things you look forward to, but most people will only pay for the main-event. You can put Leonard Garcia against Chan-Sung Jung again, but people aren't going to pay to watch that fight, unless you put a good main-event on there as well.

Football has bad games, basketball has bad games, and imo baseball is nothing but boring lol, just because you pay for MMA doesn't guarantee you a 5 round war.
You know what the difference is? Football is going to be played for 60 minutes, basketball for 48 and baseball for 9 innings. No doubt about it. Maybe the game is good, maybe it's not, but you know long of entertainment you're getting for your money.

Not true in MMA.

Now whats WWEs excuse for putting on a bad show when they plan the whole thing out?
At least you get nearly 3 hours worth of action, guaranteed, when you purchase a WWE PPV.
 
UFC has it's fans just like the WWE has it's fans. Nothing will change that.

There really isn't a whole lot UFC can do to spice up their product even more considering it's real.

It's just like the height of Mike Tyson's career in the late 80s/early 90s. People paid to watch him box, but his matches didn't even last a minute. Was it boxing's fault? No. Would spicing things up made the bout any better? No.

The only way UFC could possibly change is to make all the matches scripted. And when you think about it, UFC is evolving by putting matches on network television. That is bound to bring in more fans who never bought a PPV because they didn't know what they were paying for.

I don't blame HHH for saying those things because he isn't there to promote MMA, but he really should stick to what he knows.
 
http://www.mma-manifesto.com/ufc-ppv-data/ppv-main/2010-year-in-review-ufc-ppv-buyrates.html

It seems like the UFC business model makes it very dependent on big names. There's almost a million buys between the most brought and less brought shows last year. Another huge jump is number 12th spot (300,000) and the tied 10th spot (500,000). I think it is funny people are discrediting the WWE business model when the obvious comparisons between them and UFC are there. UFC does hype packages and rely heavily on one match to sell the show.

Before anyone brings up how 'bad' the WWE PPV numbers are, they aren't depended on them. They make up for it by merchandise, live attendance, and other means. If UFC loses its top names by injury (Brock) or just by being old, what do they have to fall back on?
 
Look at the guys you mentioned. Brock Lesnar is a former pro wrestler. Rampage Jackson is old and dangerously close to not longer being relevant. Mir is no longer relevant. I agree those guys have personality, but it's the fighter's personality, not the company's.

And what happens when those guys are no longer around? MMA is evolving, and there seems to be much fewer guys with personality than there has been in a while. Do you think if you put Frank Mir on a card with no one else advertised it's going to sell? If Rampage loses to Jones convincingly, is anyone going to think Rampage can ever be a title contender again?

But if you put John Cena's name on the marquee, you're selling tickets. Wrestlemania did 1 million PPV buys on the back of one wrestler's name and what he accomplished years ago. MCW is on television because it has the name Hulk Hogan attached to it.

Pro wrestling develops characters, UFC depends on them. Outside of GSP and Lesnar, the UFC doesn't really have any names they can put on a card and be guaranteed good buys. Lesnar has only fought twice since July 2009, and hasn't looked good either time. How much more is he going to give you?

Triple H is right, UFC has to evolve. There's nothing wrong with being a legitimate sport, that's the evolution they took to gain such mainstream acceptance. But right now they're riding a wave of popularity, but that popularity will eventually recede. How much it recedes will depend completely on they evolve, and how they can get fans emotionally invested in their fighters. That's what it is all about, getting fans to care about their fighters.

The Ultimate Fighter is a good way to do that, but it only showcases guys people don't know about, and many times won't see again. Why bother caring about someone who may not be around very long?

The WWE is evolving, and has been for a while. The UFC has evolved as well, but now that they have found their place in the sports world, they need to evolve to maximize their audience.

I agree that the personalities sell fights, as they did in the old days with Tyson (even though his personality was a brain dead idiot who basically an unstoppable monster in the ring, after people found out he was vulnerable (Buster Douglas) his popularity declined) and Ali in boxing the UFC does need to keep faces with good personalities to keep going I never denied that. All I'm saying is the UFC did a very good job of bringing out these personalities when Dana White came into the picture and that has brought them much success which makes me think they don't need to evolve too much more than they have because what they have done has brought them great success and still does to this day.

Back in the old days UFC was basically barbaric fights that didn't let the fighters personalities shine through, now they do and that's how they've evolved into being successful and legitimate (as well as the change in fight style and rules).

Even if the UFC did evolve to be more on the entertaining side the meat and core is still gonna be the personalities and big fight build up and nothing will ever change that. Without the big fight atmosphere and the personalities you really have nothing no matter how much you evolve as a company.

The WWE is different because its sports entertainment not sports like the UFC. I will admit that it wouldn't be the worse thing for UFC to evolve, maybe have a half time show with a big artist, maybe have a good talker host the UFC event that is all fine and good but at the end of the day the main, core audience is there to watch and that will never change. If they do all that evolving without the personalities they aren't gonna do good business no matter what just as wrestling only did great business with big names like Hogan, Austin and The Rock, without the big names you have nothing at the end of the day.

SIDE NOTE: I heard Dana White has visited the WWE Headquarters a few times to do some research, maybe he already has plans in motion to do a little evolving.
 
Last time I checked, WWE is trying to compete with UFC. I mean WWE announces this flawed Network idea right after UFC promotes their first fight on FOX.

Triple H thinks UFC is out of touch while it's the biggest fighting promotion in America selling out venues that WWE does once a year for Wrestlemania and god knows how many tickets are papered for that event as well and for anyone that is going to terget me because I said that well tell me how can WWE draw 8,000 for Raw live show but somehow magically draw 72,000? Anyhow....

WWE IS out of touch. Not with fans but within their own product and company, Triple H should just shut up. How can you call someone or something out of touch when you are in your own shit storm called Raw and a Punk/Triple H feud that came out of nowhere with no direction whatsoever? To make it worse, I don't even know where the Nash/Punk angle went and I have been watching.

UFC is a fighting sport that draws. It bores me to death and doesn't stimulate any interest for me but it does draw for what it's worth, WWE wants to do the numbers UFC is currently doing and they obviously are going into the depths of selling out their own company to do it. Pretty much washing away wrestling and anything that isn't called Entertainment.

Obviously, he should defend the company he works for but keep your mouth shut and simply just credit them for what they do. Nothing more nothing less.
 
I agree with what he said mostly. It's an apples to oranges comparison. The UFC has changed more than the WWE has, but that's because it's had to the stay afloat. I think the UFC is going more after the boxing audience than the WWE audience because they aren't similar. He was right in a sense that you don't know what you are gonna get in a match. I remember paying to see a match that ended in 91 secs and it pissed me off. That has never happened ordering a WWE event. Sure it doesn't turn out how you want it to sometimes, but at least you get a full show. Most times, it's a great one.
 
Last time I checked, WWE is trying to compete with UFC. I mean WWE announces this flawed Network idea right after UFC promotes their first fight on FOX.

Triple H thinks UFC is out of touch while it's the biggest fighting promotion in America selling out venues that WWE does once a year for Wrestlemania and god knows how many tickets are papered for that event as well and for anyone that is going to terget me because I said that well tell me how can WWE draw 8,000 for Raw live show but somehow magically draw 72,000? Anyhow....

WWE IS out of touch. Not with fans but within their own product and company, Triple H should just shut up. How can you call someone or something out of touch when you are in your own shit storm called Raw and a Punk/Triple H feud that came out of nowhere with no direction whatsoever? To make it worse, I don't even know where the Nash/Punk angle went and I have been watching.

UFC is a fighting sport that draws. It bores me to death and doesn't stimulate any interest for me but it does draw for what it's worth, WWE wants to do the numbers UFC is currently doing and they obviously are going into the depths of selling out their own company to do it. Pretty much washing away wrestling and anything that isn't called Entertainment.

Obviously, he should defend the company he works for but keep your mouth shut and simply just credit them for what they do. Nothing more nothing less.

Explain to me how the WWE Network is flawed? And explain how the HHH/CM Punk Feud "came out of nowhere"? Since you seem to have been watching as you claim.

I don't see how HHH said anything wrong. He is just answering truthfully is what I got from it but of course the almighty IWC takes it for something else. Im sorry but I just don't get the appeal of UFC/MMA as to me its boring and just a glorified bar fight most of the time. They should take some notes from WWE/Wrestling and make it more Entertaining as well.

So I saw nothing wrong with what HHH said and was just giving his honest opinion.
 
I think it's funny that most of the people who are criticizing Triple H probably didn't even read what he said, they just saw he said UFC should change, and they started criticizing.

Triple H didn't say UFC wasn't doing good business. He just said there is so much room for improvement for the fan's entertainment, and he's absolutely right. Everything he said was right on the money. Sometimes you do get long boring fights. Sometimes you pay a lot of money for a fight that doesn't even last 5 minutes (Belfort vs. Silva? Almost all Lesnar fights?). The UFC is doing well, but at some point, fans might think to themselves "I don't want to pay $50-60 for a fight that lasts three minutes. $20 a minute for entertainment just isn't that good of a deal".

What Triple H is saying is the UFC needs to evolve to find other ways to provide entertainment and interest the fans, so they'll KEEP spending their money on the UFC when watching the UFC is no longer the cool thing to do. And is examples of Lesnar and Mayweather are spot on.

I think more people need to read the article and understand what Trips is saying before they come to bash him.
I think you're just being a Triple H apologist. UFC has evolved alot more than WWE in the last 10 years, that's why this is so funny.

UFC continues to develop new stars, ever hear of Bones Jones?
 

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