TNA got some good stuff going but can they keep it going?!!

[Xtreme_Animlas2314]

I know that I've made other posts in the past about making TNA better in some way. They can really have a solid year if they keep certain people in the right divisions or shifts some around to have entertaining feuds or at least matches. Instead of the same old talking most of the show and squash matches.

The other reason why I am wasting my time on this is because I watched the eposide of WCW Nitro (June 8, 1998), they had matches but too me kind of short in some of them. Only thing I can really remember about the show was nWo Hogan and nWo Wolfpac talking during the entire show. Instead of hyping matches or interviews that didn't include any of the nWo members it might of been a better show. Plus I didn't get to see the Benoit match against Booker T because WWE won't show any Benoit matches anymore.

I get you want to get some type of point across or hype the next PPV. When you start with a group and every other segment you have one or all the members in the segment it doesn't makes sense but waste or time.

TNA can really have a good year this year if they concentrate on a few factors and change things up before it gets too dull. TNA does what they always end up doing by screwing up everything that could have been something.

We all know that they have the talents but not enough time to really get anything done right. I still don't understand how they haven't found a way to get Xplosion on SpikeTV considering all the UFC programming that Spike airs pretty much all the time. They can easily find a time slot or a day to at least put Xplosion on tv. This can really be used like WWE Superstar/Nexus/Tough Enough/Velocity/Heat type shows.

This way they don't have to waste time and put everyone on TV and short anyone anymore. This way the matches can at leat mean something and they can easily rotate stuff from being on Xplosion or Impact. Whoever has the better rating or keeping an audience plug into their segment or matches then put them on different time spots or shows until they get better or something. It can't be that hard to figure out what is working and whats not.

One last note maybe TNA needs to hire more writers or maybe let the veterans help with feud ideas time to time. It can't hurt.!!

Finally lets get into what this whole tropic is suppose to be about. The wrestlers/talents and bosses that take air time for no reason.

In TNA anyone can just about be put in any division or even go for any title except for depending on the gender you are. That's the only difference. They heavyweights can go after the X title and vice versa because we have seen it in the past.

I believe that Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff need to stay backstage when they do any type of segments. Unless they need to address some kind of concern or announce a match time to time. Of course on live TV shows and PPV but not be in every segment though. We don't need to see them that much but I think SpikeTV wants them to but its not necessary. Most fans aren't watching to see them but for other talents or certain matches. Unless I'm the only one.!!

Then you can use Ric Flair to be the main mouth piece of Immortal when they need to do some kind of in ring promo considering in can still move around a lot better then Hogan and Eric. Plus he's a little bit entertaining then they are at times as well. The people that are in Immortal that aren't smooth talker then let Ric do it for them. Please and please Ric needs to retire from wrestling or he will be like Hogan for sure any moment.

As much as I like to see Dixie Carter their is no need for her to show up anymore. She can easily let the following people to speak on her behalf instead of watching her walk to the ring or talk. I believe Kurt Angle, Tommy Dreamer, Mick Foley, or Sting can be the mouth piece for Dixie and TNA unless you just use AJ for that. I think it makes better since if one of those do it. Lets face it she will never be an Eric Bischoff or Ric Flair or Hulk Hogan or Vince McMahon with her talking ability. Yeah, shes the owner but come on we don't need her to be in person let her stay behind the scenes like she used to be.

Talking about the TNA Talent/Wrestlers by each division.

Stars that don't need a title to help the company out. (But can be in title matches time to time to spice storylines up.) I have no problem for some of these guys to compete in the ring as long as if it make sense in a storyline.

Face
Brother Devon (part of TNA)
Kurt Angle (part of TNA and alliance with Scott Steiner)
Mick Foley (part of TNA)
Scott Steiner (part of TNA and alliance with Kurt Angle)
Sting (part of TNA) [TNA World Heavyweight Champion]
Tommy Dreamer (part of TNA)

Heel
Bully Ray (part of Immortal)
Jeff Jarrett (part of Immortal but maybe step away from Immortal using Rob Terry, Gunner, Murphy, and maybe British Invasion)
Ric Flair (part of Immortal but need to stop wrestling in the ring)


TNA World Heavyweight Division

Face
AJ Styles (part of Fortune)
Mr. Anderson* (part of TNA but he might be changing sides soon but if he does it won't matter that much)
Rob Van Dam (part of TNA)

Heel
Abyss (part of Immortal)
Jeff Hardy^ (part of Immortal maybe but if/when he returns I hope for the best)

TNA Television Division

Face
Christopher Daniels (part of Fortune maybe but alliance to AJ Styles)
Crimson (part of TNA)
Matt Morgan (part of TNA)
Samoa Joe (part of TNA)

Heel
D’Angelo Dinero (part of TNA)
Desmond Wolfe^ (part of TNA but who knows if he will be able to comeback anytime soon)
Hernandez (part of Mexican America)
Matt Hardy (part of Immortal)
Rob Terry (part of Immortal but I think he should be a jobber for them)

TNA X-Division

Face
Alex Shelley (part of Motor City Machine Guns)
Amazing Red (part of TNA)
Brian Kendrick (part of TNA)
Chris Sabin (part of Motor City Machine Guns)
Jay Lethal (part of TNA)
Kazarian (part of Fortune) [TNA X-Division Champion]
Okato^ (part of TNA but he's Joe's side kick, I think)
Suicide^ (part of TNA but not sure how often he's going to be used)

Heel
Jeremy Buck (part of Generation ME)
Max Buck (part of Generation ME)
Robbie E (part of TNA)

TNA World Tag Team Division

Face
Amazing Red and Crimson (part of TNA)
Beer Money Inc. (Robert Roode and James Storm) (part of Fortune) [TNA World Tag Team Champion]
Eric Young and Orlando Jordan (part of TNA)
Motor City Machine Guns (Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin)

Heel
British Invasion (Doug Williams and Brutus Magnus) (part of British Invasion)
Generation ME (Max Buck and Jeremy Buck) (part of TNA)
Hardyz (Matt and Jeff Hardy)^ (part of Immortal)
Ink Inc. (Shannon Moore and Jesse Neal)^ (part of TNA)
Mexican America (Hernandez and Anarquia) (part of Mexican America)
Team Immortal (Gunner [TNA Television Champion] and Murphy) (part of Immortal but jobbers to me)

The Knockout Divisions can be pretty fun and interestion, if only TNA takes the time to develop storylines for them. They don't need to be in the Main Event or around some of the top players but occasionally it wouldn't hurt at times. Plus TNA can easily bring in just about anyone they want or bring back whomever they want as well. We've seen time after time but only they keep certain Knockouts or teams focus on one title or unless they have a stable/faction of three like the Beautiful People. It make sense and plus I think it was interesting at times but the main leader or talker should go for the Single Title while the other two work as a team. Then if need to maybe switch partners if their is more then one wrestler that is as equal has the leader. So we can have new and fresh matches besides the same people facing for the title. Maybe force some of the knockouts as teams if they need a team to go after the tag team title occasionally.

TNA Knockout Division

Face
Angelina Love^ (part of TNA but alliance with Winter)
Christy Hemme (part of TNA but need to be more as the backstage Interviewer if she's still around)
Mickie James (part of TNA)
So Cal Val (part of TNA, maybe become a manager/valet again or something besides standing by the announcing table)
Traci Brooks (part of TNA, I really enjoy seeing her with Kaz on TV but she can join Fortune like Debra, Woman, and Miss Elizabeth in the Horsemen) [Considering Kaz and Tracy are together but not make it too public like Kare/Kurt/Jeff J storyline but just enough with Ric on the mic in the other stable maybe we can bring back some fun like he did with Randy S/Elizabeth]
Winter^ (part of TNA but alliance with Angelina Love)
Velvet Sky (part of TNA)

Heel
Cookie (part of TNA but alliance with Robbie E)
Daffney^ (part of TNA but I think she no longer works with TNA no more)
Madison Rayne (part of TNA but alliance with Tara)
Rosita (part of Mexican America)
Sarita (part of Mexican America)
Tara (part of TNA but alliance with Madison Rayne)


TNA Knockout Tag Team Division

Face
Angelina Love and Winter (part of TNA)
Beautiful People^ (Angelina Love and Velvet Sky) (part of TNA)

Heel
Madison Rayne and Tara (part of TNA)
Mexican America (Rosita and Sarita) (part of Mexican America)

Lets face it TNA got it made but they don't capatilize on what they got until its too late. We know that TNA can do so much better at times but for some odd reason they don't and just screw it up faster then the storyline ever began.

Their are some feuds need to be ending sooner then later. Let start with some new feuds instead of the same old crap. Let other tale rise to the occasion.

Stables

Face
Fortune (AJ Styles, Kazarian, James Storm, and Robert Roode)

Heel
Immortal/nWo (Hulk Hogan [leader], Eric Bischoff [co-leader], Ric Flair [manager/mouth piece], Abyss, Bully Ray, Gunner, Jeff Hardy, Jeff Jarrett, Matt Hardy, Murphy, and Rob Terry)
Mexican America (Hernandez, Anarquia, Sarita, and Rosita)

I'm a huge fan in stables and factions but sometimes it does take way from everything else at times. Like any nWo version it takes way too much TV time for nothing. It doesn't hurt to have alliance and stables vs stables. They need to break it up and use different people or setup different type of matches time to time so it doesn't get stale.

By using Handicap Matches, Six Man Tag Team Matches, Eight Man Tag Team Matches, or Ten Man Tag Team Matches.

I really enjoying Immortal and Fortune feud but it still is missing or about to be stale. Maybe have title matches or bring in other people from the roster for each side to face. They don't have to face each other all the time but at least make an attempt to care about your own product and bussion.


TNA World Heavyweight Title Matches

Fortune Immortal TNA
AJ Styles or Mr. Anderson or Jeff Hary or Rob Van Dam or Samoa Joe
Christopher Daniels Abyss or Matt Hardy D’Angelo Dinero or Matt Morgan

TNA Television Title Matches

Fortune Immortal TNA
AJ Styles or Abyss or Matt Hardy Samoa Joe or Hernandez or Doug Williams
Christopher Daniels D’Angelo Dinero or Matt Morgan or Eric Young

TNA X-Division Title Matches

Fortune Immortal TNA
Kazarian Jeff Hary Amazing Red or Brian Kendrick
Matt Hardy Jay Lethal or Okato or Shannon Moore


TNA World Tag Team Title Matches

Fortune Immortal TNA
Beer Money Inc. Hardyz Motor City Machine Guns
Bully Ray/Matt Hardy Ink Inc.

TNA Knockout and Knockout Tag Team Title Matches

It doesn't really matter except for TNA need to make better judgement calls. Pick the right wretlers/talents at the right moment.

TNA Jobbers to get certain wrestlers or teams over for the time being.

Crimson
Jesse Neal
Rob Terry
Robbie E

Amazing Red and Crimson
Eric Young and Orlando Jordan
British Invasion
Generation ME
Mexican America (Hernandez and Anarquia) (part of Mexican America)
Gunner and Murphy

I know this is a lot to process and so much crap that could have taken out. Please take the time to read and discuss your opinnion on this.

Thanks.

 

[Murphy]

Since there was no question asked, I'm guesing you want us to comment on what you think TNA should do. Look, we all have are own ideas of how things should be run, but it's simply not up to us. The people running TNA, like them or not have a lot more experience in pro wrestling. And you should understand that they are trying to create a product that appeals to everyone, not just you. You might think the roster you layed out looks amazing. But to me it looks as if there are too many wrestlers, and a bad heel to face ratio. The next person might have a completley different view again. Also a lot of the things you have planned seem to take up a lot of air time, whilst TNA have just 2 hours of air time a week. BTW The colours are very annoying, try writting in black for all of your post.

 

[Jackal960]

"TNA does what they always end up doing by screwing up everything that could have been something." This would be the quote of the day...

So you put wrestlers to the categories which they already belong. Currently the groups are not much different at TNA than you already mentioned. But to make people watch the show, you need to be better than this. The talent is there, and when you make a ladder with all the talents, Bischoff and Hogan are not on top of the list. So whoever is the biggest talent has to have the opening segment or the closing one, with other top guys, not with Hogan and Bischoff. Yes they add awareness to TNA but they should know where they should belong. Today TNA is more like a show where HH&EB are trying to achieve what they failed in late 90's. Well, get over it and do something new, don't rewind things again and again. It worked in 95-97 because it was new, by 99 it was already old but they couldn't wake up. Looks like they still haven't woke up. I love TNA because of it's potential, because it can be better. Some guys just need to put TNA over their egos and be a part of a successfull group instead of being top of a not-so-successfull one.

 

[MoizH28]

Not gonna lie, I read like five lines and stopped due to how long it was. With that being said I agree with you TNA is actually doing really good with the first 1 hour and 45 minutes I think it would be much better if the main events had some clean finishes for a change.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

Sorry to say, but, I read this post 2 weeks ago, then the 2 weeks back. Then a month before hand.

I hear it all the time. Of course they got some good stuff going on, almost any company out there, will have good things going on. Even in the dying days of WCW, they had a some shimmering lights that made the fans happy.

The Invasion angle in 2001 had some cool stuff going on, but a lot of people were happy when it was over.

However, like I said before, TNA has some good things going on. They have always had something good about them.

But, like previous threads and posts have said. Till they get out of the Impact Zone, and market the product, a lot of people won't know the good things about TNA.

That's my point, if I'm off topic sorry. Just, I couldn't read that entire post. Sorry sir.

 

[MEGAFAN420]

You don't get laid much do you? I have a girlfriend and I don't either! Thank God for Larry Flint! Anyway, I think TNA needs to do what WWE did last Monday. Hype the PPV matches up RIGHT AFTER a major PPV! They set up the 3-Way-Dance for the WWE Championship 8 days after WM27. They set up Cena Vs The Rock the day after WM27. I think it's lame to set the main event for WM28 that soon, and for the WWE Championship (how did Cena know that already, kind of makes things predictable leading up to that point).

Now, there will be more talking every week (and less wrestling) heading up to Extreme Rules. The final RAW before WM27 had literally 20 minutes or less of wrestling, and as a purist fan I thought it royally sucked. Is that what the "fans" really want? Maybe not... listen to half the crowd boo Cena every week while he talks for 15 minutes!

I look forward to TNA because I know I can rely on seeing matches, but the non-purist fan enjoys the entertainment aspect more than the actual wrestling. I don't want TNA to sell out to that, just keep up the NON-PG attitude, which I love! Hype the major PPV matches immediately after the most recent PPV. You have to do that to get people excited enough to buy the PPV. I also think their product is improving. As I said, they have that "non-PG" thing working to their advantage. Bring back a little bit of blood too! When Bully Ray threw Christian through a glass table, that was awesome! Thank you all for reading my rant and Godspeed!

 

[Tugboat Reloaded]

TNA does what they always end up doing by screwing up everything that could have been something.

Thanks....next Thread!

I still don't understand how they haven't found a way to get Xplosion on SpikeTV considering all the UFC programming that Spike airs pretty much all the time.

1. UFC is interesting!
2. More TNA on TV? Holy Crap, another 60 minute show would have time for 12 Jeff Hardy Main Events....

It can't be that hard to figure out what is working and whats not.

...ok, getting back up from the floor into my seat now, thanks for that. Obviously for them it is hard.

I believe that Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff need to stay backstage when they do any type of segments.

That should be: I believe that Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff need to stay at home and locked away from anything that is connected with the word wrestling. (Oh snap, then they could resign with WWE Inc. )

Please and please Ric needs to retire from wrestling or he will be like Hogan for sure any moment.

Tic Toc Tic Toc......riiiiiiing, a few years 2 late....for both of ´em!

As much as I like to see Dixie Carter their is no need for her to show up anymore.

I´d prefer to see Dixie in the ring talking (mute, but the view is nice) rather than HH and/or Bishoff for 2 minutes! Dixie brings nice (2) arguments to the table while listening to creative crap like HH calling Anderson an Asshole (wow).

It doesn't really matter except for TNA need to make better judgement calls.

Bye bye to all wrestlers that had to leave WWE because of: Drugs (Ka-ching) Age (Kaaa-ching) or lack of talent (skill or charisma...Ka-ching). Pretty quiet in here...oh there are some guys left. Lets look at the remaining guys, well maybe we can still put a show online to get 50.000 clicks for Impact Online.


Now, they have that ONE big thing and they are unable to use it right.

As I said, they have that "non-PG" thing working to their advantage.

Yes, PG sucks. I dont want another Attitude Era but a little more edge in the talking and if there is blood rarely then so be it. But even this gets boring, at least to me. When in every mid-card-piss-break-time-match they were using blood it became stale imo.

Just my 2 cents

 

[Post]

. Bring back a little bit of blood too! When Bully Ray threw Christian through a glass table, that was awesome! Thank you all for reading my rant and Godspeed!

Dude...that was so FAKE! Look at the video. When the "trainer" came into the ring the towel he has already has "blood" on it. LOL.



Yeah, to the OP, too long to really read, but to answer the title of your post.

Yes TNA is going to keep it going. They have some really interesting things going on right now with Immortal and Fourtune. Bully Ray and Matt Hardy have really stepped it up as of late. Also Daniels, Roode, Kaz, and Storm are continuing to gain speed and are really carrying much of the program. When AJ is back we will see more great things.

I anticipate TNA to start pushing these guys more and some of the older guys less (cough, cough RVD).

Plus, Angle is still the best wrestler in the world and Mr. Anderson has really come into his own. Keep watching...you'll be happy.

 

[onewayleeway69]

Not everybody on the roster needs to be part of this storyline (part of tna/immortal) infact there should only be a few fighting immortal say sting,angle,stiener, rvd,anderson as a tweener looking out for himself and fourtune. The rest of the roster needs to keep away from the story and be in there own storys to keep things fresh. The knockouts 100% need to stay away from this story. And mabey tna are splitting up there tag teams to make the x divison better and if thats the case gd for them and i welcome it so the x divison should stay away from the immortal/tna storyline. Can i just say the rvd/anderson/sting storyline is really gd and has me on the edge of my seat atm its the best thing in wrestling right now but the angle jerrat storyline needs to end coz I AM SICK OF IT. Tna is very gd right now and hopefully it just gets better from here

 

[JGotzDaRemedy]

TNA have always done some good stuff, but they cancel it out by doing stupid stuff.

Fortune are the most entertaining thing about TNA recently. I like Daniels return, although, I'd prefer to see him focus on Ring of Honor. But hey, at least he hasn't left.

And then you got all the stupid gimmicks, meaningless matches, generic wrestlers and out-drawn segments. TNA has always been doing good things, but they're always doing bad things as well.

Robbie E will never bring in one, single viewer. Why have him on TV?

 

[TheChosen1]

I feel like there is no saving TNA. I am not interested in ANY of their current storylines. Look back at ANY WCW show during the NWO era. TNA's current product is exactly the same. The show's start the same and then it's gang warfare for the rest of the show. Really lame. They need to do a complete re-boot. I personally still DVR TNA and I find myself fast forwarding through most of the show. Styles and Joe should be thrust back into the main events and guys like flair and hogan really need to step aside and get off TV totally.