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Tired of seeing MVP being buried

MVP hasn't been relevant since he was feuding with Matt Hardy over the US title years ago. Then he lost all steam when WWE put him on that yearlong losing streak before he faded into midcard obscurity on RAW. It's been said multiple times but I'll say it again. MVP is bland as a face. He's been bland since he made the move to RAW and hasn't really done anything to impress me. Why he was put over Swagger a couple weeks ago is beyond me and I really don't care about him anymore. He's had chance after chance to make the jump into the main event scene when he went over Benoit, was the cocky heel on SD, and when he seemingly started a program with Orton after making the jump to RAW.

IMO, the guy doesn't seem to be coming out of the midcard anytime soon, at least as long as he has his current gimmick. Would I like to see him get pushed? I'm not the biggest MVP mark but sure. I'm all for having new stars in the main event. I usually hate to see superstars get buried. Do I feel it will happen? Not really.
 
MVP was perfect as the top guy in wwECW. Other than that, he is good on the mic but in ring he performs like a mid carder so he deserves the midcard.

He is fucking lucky enough to be booked against Swagger as of late, as it is helping MVP but REALLY hurting Swagger.
 
He should have been a Main Eventer by now

MVP? why?! He Sucks. He's boring. He hasn't done anything worth while that is worth watching and his "ballin" is one of the stupidest thing I have ever seen. The VIP lounge is a disgrace compared to "Highlight Reel", the "Cutting Edge", and my most favorite of all, "The Piper's Pit". Even "Carlito's Cabana" was better. So he was one of the longest reigning US champions of all time...big deal. His promos put me to sleep. Quite frankly, MVP is a waiste of time.

Then he went to RAW, Where the attention ****es all hog the tv time(HHH, Orton, Cena etc) where we were treated to 3 minute job sessions

Because MVP sucks. Cena, HHH, Orton are a heck of alot better to watch than him.

MVP goes back to Smackdown, and they continue making him look pathetic.

Again, because he sucks.

this is a guy who was insanely over as both a heel AND face and they cut his knees out from under him.

"Insanely"?! Really?! MVP was over sure. But his "level" of overness doesn't even compare to John Cena, HHH, Orton, Jericho, Rey, Edge etc. I think even Primo is even more over than MVP. He sucks as a face by the way; a heel MVP is more bearable but not bearable enough.

He has every skill needed to be a Main Eventer, but once again a minority takes a back seat to everyone else

If by skills you mean "dropping the soap" in jail, then yeah, he does have skills. But when it comes to WWE, he's got nothing and he is in his rightful place by being in the backseat.

Maybe it is because he is black IMO.

I'm going to stop you right there and laugh at how ridiculous that sounds.

Take a look at the last African American/any person of dark complection in the last years and see how far they have been pushed.

They are either wack rappers(R-truth-over used whats-up gimmick), or there gansta with a whole lotta bling (Crime Time) that are jumping around the ring like kangaroo's, or they are in a match for 5 min a get the s*** beat out of them with more than one finisher,or they have a gimmick that is borderline stereotypical white person view of a black male.

Two words...KING BOOKER!

Wwe are a bunch or republican and we know who they support.

:lmao: I don't even want to go there.

XXJJ said:
MVP is right where he belongs. I think his gimmick has gotten stale. I never viewed him as a future main event talent. He is a boring wrestler his in ring moves suck.

THANKYOU!
 
MVP? why?! He Sucks.



You cant just say "He sucks" like it's a fact, it's your opinion and your opinion only. I happen to think he is a very good wrestler who also happens to have good mic skills.

That being said....I never thought he had what it took to be a Main-eventer, his ballin gimmick is just something that I can't take very seriously, especially now that he is a face.
 
He should have been a Main Eventer by now, two years ago it seemed like he was on the right, steady pace to being one of the WWE's top guys.

Then he went to RAW, Where the attention ****es all hog the tv time(HHH, Orton, Cena etc) where we were treated to 3 minute job sessions.

MVP goes back to Smackdown, and they continue making him look pathetic. this is a guy who was insanely over as both a heel AND face and they cut his knees out from under him.

He has every skill needed to be a Main Eventer, but once again a minority takes a back seat to everyone else

Ridiculous! MVP is over in a different way. His character is known and that's about it. He has in no way shown he can get over in a way where you want to see what he will do next or he just simply goes out and puts on a great match against anyone they put in front of him.

Dude is boring and that is an UNDERSTATEMENT! I think race has nothing to do with why he hasn't succeeded. As a matter of fact, Race is the reason that he was attempted to be put over!

Most Valuable Player. Sports oriented. On the phone with an agent, contract negotiations. It's not like a white guy was ever thought of for that gimmick. Or other minorities, as you call them, Latino, Asian, Indian, Etc...

He should feel lucky his career has gone as far as it has. He has captured titles and been in featured matches and what not. He feuded against The Brothers Of Destruction, Matt Hardy and numerous other talent. They just can't get him over. AND they never will. Not with this current gimmick of his.

He is just completely stale. IMO, I do not think he has what it takes to be a Main Event Star. That is in WWE and also includes TNA. He is lacking the overall tools. Of course he does plenty of things good, but not great. Not that he has to be great to be over, but guys that don't have that natural ability to get right over, need a HUGE change, or the tools in the first place to take that next step!
 
In my honest opinion, I see so much of these fanboys complaining about how he is boring and how he's this and how he's that. Ever stop to think about It's WWE they control him pretty much on his looks, moveset and storylines. All MVP needs is a good storyline and he can be back on top. But will they give him or any "african" wrestler that? No. They either have some stupid gangster gimmick or they are an immigrant of some sort. MVP DOES need a new finisher though. I don't mind the balling thing. Let him use the Play of the Day as his finisher or give him a completly new one. BTW they cant change his attire because He has many tattoo's (Gang tats and Malcolm X ones) so of course they can't be seen.

In a perfect world - We see him with a new finisher, one or two new manuevers setting him up for a momentum shift. But keep the same Gimmick and change him heel. THEN MVP will be fresher in the ring and good on the mic. Also make him drop about 10 pounds or something he's about 260 right now and 6'2

By the way fan boys, he makes a better wrestler than you IN REAL LIFE. deal with it.
 
In my honest opinion, I see so much of these fanboys complaining about how he is boring and how he's this and how he's that. Ever stop to think about It's WWE they control him pretty much on his looks, moveset and storylines. All MVP needs is a good storyline and he can be back on top. But will they give him or any "african" wrestler that? No. They either have some stupid gangster gimmick or they are an immigrant of some sort. MVP DOES need a new finisher though. I don't mind the balling thing. Let him use the Play of the Day as his finisher or give him a completly new one. BTW they cant change his attire because He has many tattoo's (Gang tats and Malcolm X ones) so of course they can't be seen.

In a perfect world - We see him with a new finisher, one or two new manuevers setting him up for a momentum shift. But keep the same Gimmick and change him heel. THEN MVP will be fresher in the ring and good on the mic. Also make him drop about 10 pounds or something he's about 260 right now and 6'2

By the way fan boys, he makes a better wrestler than you IN REAL LIFE. deal with it.


Why did you get your panties in a twist about fans complaining about MVP only for you to go on and complain about his weight, move set and tattoos?
What makes your complaints about MVP any more valid than anyone elses? Further more, how do your complaints about MVP or WWE make you any less of a fan boy? :rolleyes:
 
MVP just fails as a face. As a heel he could draw a lot of heat and was actually good on the mic. As a face no one really gives a shit. He has a bland "good guy" personality and nobody wants to see it. As far as his in ring work goes, he isn't bad but he isn't that good either. Definitely not good enough to make up for his current bland personality. I'd turn MVP heel to see if he can get his spark back and if he can't then he's nothing but a mid carder/jobber to the stars for the rest of his career.
 
You cant just say "He sucks" like it's a fact, it's your opinion and your opinion only.

Yes. Yes, you're right. "He sucks" is most certainly my opinion (its also other people's opinion). But I didn't just say he sucks, I said WHY I think he sucks also. The guy is downright boring, stale, and doesn't deserve to be in main event like MayorMcCheese said he should. Thats fact. You say he has good mic skills and is a descent wrestler. Please, I give his mic skills a 4 and his wrestling skills 6 (only to be nice). And that does not scream main event to me.

He is just completely stale. IMO, I do not think he has what it takes to be a Main Event Star. That is in WWE and also includes TNA. He is lacking the overall tools.

Well said. That there is also fact.

I see so much of these fanboys complaining

"fanboys"? :lol:

and how he's this and how he's that. Ever stop to think about It's WWE they control him pretty much on his looks, moveset and storylines. All MVP needs is a good storyline and he can be back on top.

That and a blessing from God won't help him. But you know, maybe a good storyline might make him a little better to watch, but it most certainly will not put him on top.

he is boring

Yes, MVP is boring.

But will they give him or any "african" wrestler that? No. They either have some stupid gangster gimmick or they are an immigrant of some sort.

Seriously, does anybody even remember King Booker?

In a perfect world - We see him with a new finisher, one or two new manuevers setting him up for a momentum shift. But keep the same Gimmick and change him heel. THEN MVP will be fresher in the ring and good on the mic. Also make him drop about 10 pounds or something he's about 260 right now and 6'2

In a perfect world I see people like MVP released from WWE.

By the way fan boys, he makes a better wrestler than you IN REAL LIFE. deal with it.

:lmao: I hope you were joking. What does MVP being an "actual" wrestler have to do with "us"? (the supposed fanboys). That point was irrelevant and just plain stupid.
 
MVP is boring, bland, and 1000 different adjectives that mean not interesting. Ever since he faced Benoit, it's all been downhill. I suppose I can't blame his heart condition on him as I thought he and Hardy could have done great things. Other than that, he's done nothing interesting. Maybe a heel turn can revive his career but I haven't seen a good match from him in years. A change of style could do wonders. I still wouldn't care about him but others will.
 
I really have no clue why certain people think he should be a main eventer right now. Not all people who pay their dues just deserve to be in the main event. I really don't think MVP has what it takes. I didn't get it when he made his debut, I didn't get it when he was super over, and I still don't get it. They paired him with Mark Henry cuz they had no idea what to do with either of them, and that's a pretty good sign that he just doesn't...do it for me or the writers. Maybe the best thing for him would be to get a main event push, so he can fizzle, lose his momentum in a few weeks or months, and then go back to doing nothing week after week. I don't meant to come down so hard on MVP, but I just don't like him. If he gets a push to the top before guys like Matt Hardy, Kofi Kingston, or Christian...I'll be livid.
 
Why did you get your panties in a twist about fans complaining about MVP only for you to go on and complain about his weight, move set and tattoos?
What makes your complaints about MVP any more valid than anyone elses? Further more, how do your complaints about MVP or WWE make you any less of a fan boy? :rolleyes:

Funny I don't see myself complaining about MVP?
I gave idea's to help freshen him up. Theres a fine line between bitching like
the rest, and trying to pitch some idea's that would give this guy a nice push again. He has gained weight since he first entered the WWE, His tattoo's I don't care for neither should you. I stated WWE does not want them to show for obvious reasons. And yes him adding a move or two would be awesome and it would make him look a bit better in the ring.
Therefore you make yourself look stupid trying to say I was complaining about a guy who I like. GG

Oh and by the way, I want to see you all go in there and do what he does for a living its not easy. I'm not some HUGE MVP fan, but to see people sitting behind a computer and disrespect someone who does there best to entertain the fans and put there bodies on the line is just ******ed. (Okay okay he's not that entertaining anymore)
And as for King Booker, dude did you see his WWE gimmick for years before that?... Exactly. They switched his gimmick to "King" Booker. So what he's a needle in the haystack. As for The Rock he was half Samoan and he wasn't that dark in skin color. Point is they don't push that much African/Dark wrestlers let alone have much in the company when I'm sure theres a lot of talent out there from that genre of people.
 
Another hack of a performer that the IWC, for some ungodly reason, thinks is amazing. The guy is out of shape. He can't wrestle, so I have NO IDEA why people consider him a great technical wrestler and all of that mumbo jumbo. He is boring as all hell on the stick and frankly I see nor feel anything special when he comes on my T.V. screen. The guy sucks. Stop trying to make him out to be more than he really is.
 
I wouldn't call him a hack, it's up to Creative what MVP can and can't do. You know that they are told not to outshine the mainevent for the purpose of the ME getting the biggest pops. While I agree that MVP needs to be a heel. His best achievements were from being heel and a damn good one at that. MVP can get some great heat that makes him easier to hate and in turn making him a much more watched/followed(in a weird sense) because people will want to see him get his comeuppance.

MVP showed how good he can work through his first run and given that same run can prove the critics wrong and hopefully make the eat humble pie.
 
Funny I don't see myself complaining about MVP?
I gave idea's to help freshen him up. Theres a fine line between bitching like
the rest, and trying to pitch some idea's that would give this guy a nice push again. He has gained weight since he first entered the WWE, His tattoo's I don't care for neither should you. I stated WWE does not want them to show for obvious reasons. And yes him adding a move or two would be awesome and it would make him look a bit better in the ring.
Therefore you make yourself look stupid trying to say I was complaining about a guy who I like.

When you critique various aspects of a wrestler, saying certain things could be better or different, that is, by definition, a complaint, no matter how much you like the guy. Look it up.
And by the way, what's the point of having a discussion about a wrestler on a forum about wrestlers if we can't give an opinion on said wrestler? I am beginning to think you honestly believe your opinion hs more merit than anyone elses, which is not the case at all, sunshine.


Oh and by the way, I want to see you all go in there and do what he does for a living its not easy. I'm not some HUGE MVP fan, but to see people sitting behind a computer and disrespect someone who does there best to entertain the fans and put there bodies on the line is just ******ed. (Okay okay he's not that entertaining anymore)

Here you go again with that crap. I could sit here and tell you that I am a better worker than MVP, but it wouldn't matter because you don't know who I am. So I will put it this way:
I don't paint houses for a living. Does that mean I can't complain when the painter painting my house does a lousy job? I don't make pizzas for a living, so does that mean I don't have the right to complain when I get a shitty pizza? I'm not a doctor, so does that mean I'm supposed to get my mouth shut if I get a misdiagnosis?
MVP is in sports ENTERTAINMENT, which means no matter how hard you THINK he works, he is open to evaluation, especially in a career that depends on how over you are with the fans.


And as for King Booker, dude did you see his WWE gimmick for years before that?... Exactly. They switched his gimmick to "King" Booker. So what he's a needle in the haystack. As for The Rock he was half Samoan and he wasn't that dark in skin color. Point is they don't push that much African/Dark wrestlers let alone have much in the company when I'm sure theres a lot of talent out there from that genre of people.

I watched Booker ever since his WCW debut. What's your point? He was never "gangsta" in the WWE, never. And the Rock is every bit as black as Barack Obama, he debuted with Vince McMahon on commentary hyping him as the son of Rocky Johnson. Hell he even led The Nation Of Domination, so I suppose you expect everyone else to pretend the Rock is 100% Samoan?
Also, how many times has The WWE pushed guys like Mark Henry or Bobby Lashley? They didn't get anywhere, not because of WWE management but because they were never over with the fans, and that is their fault, not Vince's. The point is, your assesment of WWE only pushing black guys who have a "gangsta" gimmick is, well, stupid.
 

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