Tired of seeing MVP being buried

[MayorMcCheese]

He should have been a Main Eventer by now, two years ago it seemed like he was on the right, steady pace to being one of the WWE's top guys.

Then he went to RAW, Where the attention ****es all hog the tv time(HHH, Orton, Cena etc) where we were treated to 3 minute job sessions.

MVP goes back to Smackdown, and they continue making him look pathetic. this is a guy who was insanely over as both a heel AND face and they cut his knees out from under him.

He has every skill needed to be a Main Eventer, but once again a minority takes a back seat to everyone else

 

[RatedRPiedmont]

No, I am tired of seeing MVP.

He is horrible as a face. His main moves dont even look like the have any impact. He is a good wrestler but his signature moves and finishers are weak.

He was good when he drew heat. He is just plain boring.

 

[Heartachetonight926]

I think your forgetting that he beat Jack swagger 2 weeks ago on Smackdown, he pinned him clean. I know it doesn't mean THAT much, but Swagger was the World Champion about a 2 months ago.

But for the most part, yeah they are kinda burying him. But He is Still fairly young, WWE could push him eventually.

 

[InfamousI04]

I agree wit ratedrpiermont. Its time for a heel turn now. But I have a problem with seeing guys like the miz on top. His move set is kicks and punches wit a couple of so called high impact moves. A lot of guys are walking around grabbing tv time that shouldn't be. Its no surprise to me that MVP's title journey ended around the same time Linda Mcmahon threw her name in for senator. People would have been criticizing her for having MVP as champion. The company would have been crucified for having an ex convict as a champion.

 

[Karaoke Superstar]

He was good as a heel, but as a face with the balling and everything he's kinda lame. I agree that he should be in a bigger role than he is now, they did drop the ball on him. I don't know how or if he can recover from this and become relevant again.

It's interesting though, his push died right when he started a feud with Randy "The Push Killer" Orton. Maybe he botched something?

 

[CotterHavok]

Ortonhad nothing todo with his depush. He is older then most people think (mid thirties) his moves suck and he doesn't have much of a character anymore. That's why he is where he is.

 

[1_2_3 Kid]

I thought the VIP Lounge was pretty good but overall, anything MVP does is easily forgettable. He was getting a little push last year and everyone thought he was going to be the "next" up @ Bat for the big push.

But I am tired of seeing him job. He can easily be put back into the ME with a little boost here, good storyline here and BAM, he could be back just like that. He can be a good asset if he is used right. The guy is talented, can work the stick and is decent in the ring but The ballin shit has got to go, maybe a rehaul is in order for the ballin one because as of now, its either that or a pink slip because in my eyes he is falling through the cracks. And we all know where that leads too.

Sometimes that's all a superstar needs, is the right gimmick to get them over, and MVP has gotten over, but not full on over because when your not MEing and have been in the company this long its kind of a problem. Maybe its just because he's black but god know we don't want to get into this discussion. Plain and simple OP, I agree. I am tired of the way he is booked. He deserves bettr than that and might just have to go somewhere else to get his order right. I love to see talent shine no matter where they might end up. If your good, your good and no one can deny that. But being mediocre is another thing. And sorry to say my boy falls in that category to the masses.

 

[CAPT SPAULD1NG8]

personally im tired of seeing mvp all together. i really dont think hes a good performer. hes boring and hes not that interesting to watch. if anything make him a heel again. at least he was some what better then.

 

[Simmo]

personally, couldn't care either way but I think what he needs to do is re-tool himself a bit (not a total gimmick change) but just alter his look and style and it might work...

either that or move to TNA (he would get top billing there....)

 

[Karaoke Superstar]

Ortonhad nothing todo with his depush. He is older then most people think (mid thirties) his moves suck and he doesn't have much of a character anymore. That's why he is where he is.

And how do you know Orton had nothing to do with it? He very well could have went backstage complained and said he didn't want to work with him and there it goes. Now I'm not hating on Orton, nor do I profess to know anything about this for certain, but it is a funny coincidence. As for his moves sucking and him not having a character anymore that does not seem to slow Cena down any. MVP's character is lame right now, but he did make a great cocky heel on SD.

 

[zman21]

i say turn him heel and give him the i.c. belt. he is not world tittle worthy. he is too old almost 37 and his moves suck. his finisher is a ripp off of shelton benjamine's paydirt but shelton made it look way better. the only thing i ever liked about mvp was his entrance

 

[yur_momma]

mvp is a decent in ring worker but the whole Jim Jones rapper "ballin" thing is done. over. fizzled. the song sucked to begin with and they even stole the guy's look.

its funny that me and some friends were talking about him monday wondering what ever happened to him and then i happened to see him on nxt tonight (we dont watch nxt) and was surprised and laughed because i know for sure now that his next step is to be "future endeavored"....

 

[Spitfire]

I find this so funny. I know everyone's entitled to their own opinion but saying MVP's "Ballin" thing has to go is ridiculous, especially when the Miz says "I'm Awesome" every damn week. MVP has good moves. I agree the Paydirt finisher is not great but is the Skull Crushing Finale any better?

I know, why bring up the Miz?
Well, because everyone thinks he's so damn awesome and great but all he does is cut promos. Did I mention that he's the absolute worst United States Champion?

 

[Tougie]

I honestly never thought MVP would ever been more than a mid card and i was right. He has some good mic skills and a different loo but in ring he is generic. Benoit and Matt Hardy both made him look great in their rivalries with him which is why I think people expected more out of him. Perhaps he has never been given a chance to prove he could do bigger and better things.

But hey at least he gets more that 3 minutes of ring time unlike Zack Ryder (Got a slight push on ECW but that was it, standard opener), Vladimir Kozlov (Big push, WWE basically dropped his monster gimmick for no reason, generic opener and comedy act with Santino), William Regal (Can still make guys look great, I'd love to see him to do some stuff with Bourne, DiBiase, or R Truth because A. Those guys would actually get some TV time and B. They would look good.

So am I tired of MVP being buried? No because thats how things work, talented people are always held down for one reason or another and I never saw him doing anything major. Maybe pair him up with SD's version of Regal (Christian) and have them do a fued, either one turning, most likely Christian, would work. All they gotta say is "You turned your back on the fans" instant storyline.

 

[XXJJ]

MVP is right where he belongs. I think his gimmick has gotten stale. I never viewed him as a future main event talent. He is a boring wrestler his in ring moves suck.

 

[TheCuttingEDGE]

I belove that MVPs real setback in his push, was him teaming up with Mark Henry. While that were a good team together, he went from forcing himself into the title scene, he took a backseat and go lost in the WWE's Tag Team division. I also believe that his needs to become a heel again to get to the level he was at before, when he switched to a face, he was the highest he had ever been, and now that he must start over, he need another change (and a new finisher), possible blame his position in the title scene on others, start refusing to take a backseat to people and not participating in Tag matches. This could be a way to give him a new attitude, and a angle to get him going for a title again.

 

[GeneralKarim]

This thread will turn into "I hate The Miz ,he no technical wrestling machine that meH likEs omgoneon111elveevn"; or sth like that or the kiddy version : " OMG no MissShip Pain and corkscrews22@@22!".Grow up and think for a moment why he is where he is.

OT : MVP was very interesting as a heel, and actually when he was a heel ( like JoMo ) i kinda liked his ring work better.Now he just basically does nothing than cut a promo on NXT( if that! ), or have a match on superstars.His career went downhill when he had that losing streak which i heard came from some backstage heat ( ? ).And then he started turning face cause people got behind him.He never really had a meaningful feud besides the one with Benoit and Matt hardy ( or so i remember ).

He missed a lot of feuds just like that, that could've been good ones.Like when he interrupted Orton on RAW but then ...it was just that, nothing happening afterwords.Then there was that abomination of a feud with the MIZ that had no sense at all.It started with some great promo work and then the ball got dropped.And him being put in a tag team with Mark Henry ( no longer yey ) didnt do him any good whatsoever.
And now at his age (36-37) he is just waiting for the paycheck and waiting to get released cause he reallly has nothing to do now.Hes too old to start being something again.Not to be hating on the guy but he is slow and rather uninteresting as a face and i cant see him being in a feud right now.But he is on smackdown maybe he has a chance to do some interesting stuff since he doesnt have too much left in his career.

 

[Theo Mays]

MVP was awesome as a heel when he first debuted with the company. Once he turned face on SD he seem to lose steam and then he moved to Raw and it looked like he was gonna be pushed again. He interrupted the WWE champ at the time in Randy Orton and it really seemed like MVP was going to finally make that jump, but just like Mark Henry in recent memory booking failed to capitalize on the chance of making a new top star. Nowadays with MVP it seems like he doesn't care all the time and looks nonchalant out there at times. So am I really upset that MVP is buried? Not really. Would I like to see a push of sorts come from MVP? Yeah I would, consider I like that guy. I, like most, would love to see a heel turn from MVP with the return of his over the top, balloon tunnel entrance. He seems to work better as a heel and maybe a run with a mid card title could spark MVP to finally make the move to the top. I doubt we ever see him ever jump from the midcard, as it seems he has found comfort there and it is a steady paycheck.

 

[MayorMcCheese]

I thought the VIP Lounge was pretty good but overall, anything MVP does is easily forgettable. He was getting a little push last year and everyone thought he was going to be the "next" up @ Bat for the big push.

But I am tired of seeing him job. He can easily be put back into the ME with a little boost here, good storyline here and BAM, he could be back just like that. He can be a good asset if he is used right. The guy is talented, can work the stick and is decent in the ring but The ballin shit has got to go, maybe a rehaul is in order for the ballin one because as of now, its either that or a pink slip because in my eyes he is falling through the cracks. And we all know where that leads too.

Sometimes that's all a superstar needs, is the right gimmick to get them over, and MVP has gotten over, but not full on over because when your not MEing and have been in the company this long its kind of a problem. Maybe its just because he's black but god know we don't want to get into this discussion. Plain and simple OP, I agree. I am tired of the way he is booked. He deserves bettr than that and might just have to go somewhere else to get his order right. I love to see talent shine no matter where they might end up. If your good, your good and no one can deny that. But being mediocre is another thing. And sorry to say my boy falls in that category to the masses.

MVP was getting huge reactions when he was first on raw, being a face is not the problem. Being put in 3 minute jobber matches is. He is highly talented but on RAW the show of the egotistical maniacs, you can't afford to rub HHH/Orton/Cena the wrong way, or you're done! Smackdown is owned by true professionals like Undertaker who cares about putting on a good show, and making money, not by being insecure about every new guy who gets big reactions.

MVP can do it all, he needs a better finisher but besides that? ALL the tools, it's a joke he's jobbing all the time

 

[Scrump_1]

Cuz man the smarks have their new internet sensation, the miz. Miz is a terrible wrestler but they love his "AWEEEEEEEEEEEESUM" crap. Interesting indeed.

So people only like Miz because of his catchphrase?

I'm sorry but no.
The Miz is simply what's "hot" right now amongst the internet fans because his ability to cut great promos, work decent matches, and is able to work with every story line they throw at him.

He gets a good amount of tv time every week, has held numerous championships in the past year and has just developed greatly ever since splitting with John Morrison

 

[DSD]

Uh, lets not turn this into a hate Miz thread...btw Alex Riley for nxt 2 Anyways. I hate MVP's new finisher he looks like he does it in slow motion. He was great as a heel, I would have kept him heel for a long time but I guess they know what they're doing. They did the same thing to Carltio (smh) did Cena and him have a good feud or is it just me? I just hope Miz doesn't turn into a good guy any time soon and MVP goes back to being a heel.

@MayorMcCheese I think HHH is the only one that does that out of all of them. At least I hope. I can't believe WWE is like that btw. I don't believe rumors like that but about HHH it makes sense, he marries the boss' daughter and he's a what 13 time champion and he's 41 years old and I doubt he's gonna stop anytime.

 

[eezy1]

Hmm MVP is a difficult one. Granted he was pretty good as a heel way back when and his feud with Hardy was without a doubt the best we have seen from him. But he was never really getting over so they tried the losing streak storyline with him, (which i think was a despo attempt at gettin him over) but for me it actually buried him epicly. Hes never comeback from that and as a face its just never gonna happen for me. Turn him heel again and let him do his thing at mid-card level. I can honestly see MVP getting let go in the not too distant future.

 

[chrome_305]

I thought the VIP Lounge was pretty good but overall, anything MVP does is easily forgettable. He was getting a little push last year and everyone thought he was going to be the "next" up @ Bat for the big push.

But I am tired of seeing him job. He can easily be put back into the ME with a little boost here, good storyline here and BAM, he could be back just like that. He can be a good asset if he is used right. The guy is talented, can work the stick and is decent in the ring but The ballin shit has got to go, maybe a rehaul is in order for the ballin one because as of now, its either that or a pink slip because in my eyes he is falling through the cracks. And we all know where that leads too.

Sometimes that's all a superstar needs, is the right gimmick to get them over, and MVP has gotten over, but not full on over because when your not MEing and have been in the company this long its kind of a problem. Maybe its just because he's black but god know we don't want to get into this discussion. Plain and simple OP, I agree. I am tired of the way he is booked. He deserves bettr than that and might just have to go somewhere else to get his order right. I love to see talent shine no matter where they might end up. If your good, your good and no one can deny that. But being mediocre is another thing. And sorry to say my boy falls in that category to the masses.

Maybe it is because he is black IMO.Take a look at the last African American/any person of dark complection in the last years and see how far they have been pushed.

They are either wack rappers(R-truth-over used whats-up gimmick), or there gansta with a whole lotta bling (Crime Time) that are jumping around the ring like kangaroo's, or they are in a match for 5 min a get the s*** beat out of them with more than one finisher,or they have a gimmick that is borderline stereotypical white person view of a black male.

It seem that the wwe like making the Afroman get beat the hell up.Even when there down for the count.

Remember the chamber match when Kofi(who push was stop by Orton I think) took out Ted D. with the TroubleNParadise only to have shamus boot kick him then give him the outsider edge(yes I said it!).Then they have shamus lose to cena within 2min after that.

Wwe are a bunch or republican and we know who they support.

 

[NWannabe]

The guy before me is sadly accurate. I wouldn't go so far as to call them "republicans" (let's not be so petty.) but they know who the primary audience is. Spin it all you like, but recall Raw's origins on The Nashville Network.

Before I go too far into THAT tirade, it's way too rare to see a black wrestler w/o some kind of urbanized gimmick. And if it's not urbanized it's exoticized. jamaica? West Africa? Ain't KK from california?

What makes me realize just how back it really is, is how much we all love the rock. Recall nation of domination? Recall people in general classified him as black. Least, the fans did. But not the fed. Even if he was Rocky's grandson, they pushed his Samoan heritage hard. And really, they should. The fans shouldn't have been all hyped at seeing a 'black' guy who wasn't full on.

I'm digressing again. I really wish the feds or even a number of indy circuits that push storyline would let a black guy be the face. We really can be just as quirky, snotty, faceish as a white guy. Trust me. *points to Orlando Jones* THAT'S what I want to see more of. Go ahead, misinterpret.

 

[gd]

Another one of these, eh? Not sure why people can't get it through their skulls, MVP sucks. Really, go watch an MVP match, what does he bring to the table? He may as well be moving in slow motion out there. Certainly one of the worst in ring workers in the entire company, no doubt.

Triple H, Cena, and Orton aren't to blame for his lack of success, that squarely falls onto MVP's shoulders. He hasn't been able to do one interesting thing since coming to Raw and has been absolutely terrible during his transition into the face character. Teaming with Henry was one of the best things they could've done for him - put him with a guy that was way over and see if it rubs off. Clearly, it didn't.

The thought that it's his race that's holding him back is laughable as well. It's his lack of talent that's his problem, not his dark complextion. I'm not sure what can be done for anyone who thinks otherwise.