This sums up my thoughts on TNA.

[Thriller Ant]

What's better to do: make say 80 grand a year in TNA, or 500,000 a year in the WWE midcard?

If I loved what I was doing in TNA, and felt like I had the opportunity to become a champ I really think I would stay in TNA. The old guys don't really have much left for them, that's why I can see them jumping to get the paycheck

 

[klunderbunker]

Kennedy could potentially be bought also. Money talks, and VInce has a lot of it. Eventually you simply can't turn down the amounts Vince can afford to pay.

 

[Bernkastel]

The other thing that worries me is WWE. They're clearly not treating TNA as a threat. There's a major weapon that could nearly cripple TNA: Vince McMahon's checkbook. Do you think Hall, Nash, Waltman, Young, Joe, 3D, Foley, Steiner and a ton of others wouldn't show up at WWE at the drop of a paycheck?

Who knows? Maybe Vince McMahon secretly wants TNA to become a threat in the future so that he could welcome the challenge.

WWE's supremacy has gone largely unchallenged for almost a decade. And with the overall state of pro wrestling being on the decline, maybe another round of company wars could be just what the industry needs.

 

[klunderbunker]

If I loved what I was doing in TNA, and felt like I had the opportunity to become a champ I really think I would stay in TNA. The old guys don't really have much left for them, that's why I can see them jumping to get the paycheck

In theory, yes. Things get bad in TNA and it looks like they could be in real trouble and the phone ringing gets a lot louder very fast.

 

[Thriller Ant]

Kennedy could potentially be bought also. Money talks, and VInce has a lot of it. Eventually you simply can't turn down the amounts Vince can afford to pay.

I can see Kennedy going back. Vince loved him, he just happened to get hurt every single fucking time he was about to finish off a huge push

 

[klunderbunker]

Who knows? Maybe Vince McMahon secretly wants TNA to become a threat in the future so that he could welcome the challenge.

WWE's supremacy has gone largely unchallenged for almost a decade. And with the overall state of pro wrestling being on the decline, maybe another round of company wars could be just what the industry needs.

Maybe, but it's still Crazy Man Vince. He's bought up everything in sight so that people can't think that anything else ever was any good.

 

[Dexter]

Who knows? Maybe Vince McMahon secretly wants TNA to become a threat in the future so that he could welcome the challenge.

WWE's supremacy has gone largely unchallenged for almost a decade. And with the overall state of pro wrestling being on the decline, maybe another round of company wars could be just what the industry needs.

This is an interesting point too. Maybe the smart business decision here is to go ahead and let TNA climb up to a 3.5 rating if it means WWE climbs up to a 6.0 again.

 

[klunderbunker]

I can see Kennedy going back. Vince loved him, he just happened to get hurt every single fucking time he was about to finish off a huge push

And Vince has more than enough money to make that happen. Or he could pay a lot of guys to simply sit at home and play XBOX all day.

 

[Lil Wes]

I can see Kennedy going back. Vince loved him, he just happened to get hurt every single fucking time he was about to finish off a huge push

He would have been your world champion last summer if Orton didn't throw a little bitch fit. Fucking politicking ***** like Orton, HBK, and HHH are reasons wrestlers like Miz may want to GTFO if TNA shows them something.

 

[FromTheSouth]

And Vince has more than enough money to make that happen. Or he could pay a lot of guys to simply sit at home and play XBOX all day.

How do I get that job? Will I get a bonus for *********ing?

 

[Thriller Ant]

And Vince has more than enough money to make that happen. Or he could pay a lot of guys to simply sit at home and play XBOX all day.

We'll really see guys' true colors. You'll see the guys take less money so they can wrestle, and the guys take more money even if they do get paid just to sit at home

 

[klunderbunker]

He would have been your world champion last summer if Orton didn't throw a little bitch fit. Fucking politicking ***** like Orton, HBK, and HHH are reasons wrestlers like Miz may want to GTFO if TNA shows them something.

...what? Miz is going up as steadily as anyone I can remember in forever.

 

[klunderbunker]

How do I get that job? Will I get a bonus for *********ing?

AJ Styles worked for WCW for awhile. He wrestled maybe twice on Nitro and was under contract for months. he wrestled in a small company called NWA Wildside and other than that sat at home and got a check from WCW. At one point I think WCW had over 150 wrestlers on its payroll, not counting exclusive American rights to about 100 luchadores. They officially were on the WCW payroll but never showed up o television.

 

[Bernkastel]

Maybe, but it's still Crazy Man Vince. He's bought up everything in sight so that people can't think that anything else ever was any good.

True, but Vince still made the decision to place the WWE into the PG era. I see this being done as an act of survival, to advertise to the common medium of fans to insure that money is still being pumped into the company.

 

[Lil Wes]

...what? Miz is going up as steadily as anyone I can remember in forever.

Meh, he went from a feud with the biggest name in the biz right back down to the mid card. Fail. Kingston is another, had MSG going apeshit for him, and now he's plummeted down the hill because Orton doesn't think he's ready? That's a crock of shit.

 

[Bernkastel]

This is an interesting point too. Maybe the smart business decision here is to go ahead and let TNA climb up to a 3.5 rating if it means WWE climbs up to a 6.0 again.

Means more money for Vince in the long run. No longer being a certified billionaire must be a huge blow to his pride.

 

[klunderbunker]

And that's why Vince will win in the end. The guy simply knows how to make money. TNA's biggest crowd is let's say 10,000 people and they hit that say 10 times a year. Vince runs say 8 hours shows a week and gets say 5,000 fans a show. They all pay. That's not counting Raw, Smackdown and PPVs where there are bigger arenas and higher prices. Mania did what, 60,000 people at say 50 dollars a ticket? That's I believe 1.2 million dollars in one night. There's a ton of merchandise, ticket sales, PPV buys, advertising money, licensing stuff. WWE is a money making machine.

 

[Thriller Ant]

Meh, he went from a feud with the biggest name in the biz right back down to the mid card. Fail. Kingston is another, had MSG going apeshit for him, and now he's plummeted down the hill because Orton doesn't think he's ready? That's a crock of shit.

Is that why his push has slowed? I wasn't sure. As for Miz, I think the Cena thing was just a way to get people to take him seriously as a singles competitor. Raw actually has a decent sized micard right now, so for him to be midcard champ is a pretty big deal

 

[klunderbunker]

That's just it: people are tired of the WWE main event, but the midcard is full of guys in their 20s that are entertaining as hell and are getting mini main event pushes. Imagine in 2-3 years when Miz, Morrison, Kofi, Christian, Edge, Cena, McIntyre, Sheamus etc. are the focus of the company are they're like 28 years old.

 

[Dexter]

Alright, well, that gives me 2-3 years to watch TNA instead then. I'll reevaluate if/when those guys make the main event.

 

[Thriller Ant]

That's just it: people are tired of the WWE main event, but the midcard is full of guys in their 20s that are entertaining as hell and are getting mini main event pushes. Imagine in 2-3 years when Miz, Morrison, Kofi, Christian, Edge, Cena, McIntyre, Sheamus etc. are the focus of the company are they're like 28 years old.

But the problem is that there are the older main eventers now who won't go away. Taker is the SD champ now even though he can barely move half the time. I really can't see HHH stepping aside before he's 50. The only guy who will go away is Batista, if he follows through on what he's said in interviews

 

[klunderbunker]

I'll go with one thing: at Smackdown two weeks ago, Taker got by far and away the pop of the night and he wasn't even there. The guy is a damn draw still.

 

[Thriller Ant]

I'll go with one thing: at Smackdown two weeks ago, Taker got by far and away the pop of the night and he wasn't even there. The guy is a damn draw still.

I stand by the fact that the only reason he gets the pops he gets is the fact he disappears for about half the year every year

 

[FromTheSouth]

There are 206 people viewing that thread, right now.

I am such a fucking draw.

 

[klunderbunker]

And he makes money. That's the key thing, and that's why he's going to be around as long as he wants. He and Shawn stole the show at Mania. Them and Steamboat.