This is a great time for the WWE

[TheAbsolute1]

The first night I really started watching wrestling, it was a thursday night and I saw Christian during a backstage interview. He was talking about how he and Booker were best friends, this of course was about a month or two before his departure. So basically what I'm getting at is that I've been watching WWE for 5 years going on 6 and never have I been so interested in the mid and low card divisions.

You see, people who think they are the hardest core wrestling fans usually put main focus into the main events. Right now, they're talking about how much of a hypocrite Cena is to bring his family into his retirement speech that was a lie. Or how the Nexus may be jumping their leader next week(Which would get them all over if they're gonna go seperate ways). They're main interest is whether Randy Orton will put The Miz through a table or not. But that's is all the least bit interesting compared to what else is going on, well in my opinion of course.

First off, recently on Smackdown! I've seen Kofi Kingston and Jack Swagger collide. Their last couple of matches have been main event material. Swagger and Kofi didn't need a storyline or a title on the line to make it interesting, all they needed was their pure skills. I'm pretty sure with all the buzz on their last match, that this might turn into a huge feud but only if Kofi loses the IC title match, which I'm sure he will.

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Tyson Kidd & Jackson Andrews. A blast from the past en mi ojos. This is a great way to get both Jackson and Tyson over. Tyson Kidd has more skill than Cena, Orton, Miz, Barrett..list goes on and that's a fact. The Kidd's got mic skill too, he can make it as a top heel and bring credibility to his generation of Hart Dungeon graduates.

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Daniel Bryan. How he's gotten so over is beyond me but he deserves it. Yea the whole chick magnet angle is a little cheesy, but he's such a great wrestler. Ten years this man has traveled the globe and now it has all paid off.

The small feud between Ziggler and Kaval that just ended was phenomenal. There was no real story behind this feud either, but the skills of these young superstars made the feud great. Kaval got his first V by beating Zig at Smackdown, then lost the IC match at the Series but that match was fantastic! Ziggler made a mistake and got a hard shot to the nose but other than that, they had a near flawless match.

Curt Hawkins & Trent Barreta have had this ongoing feud lately that has been dope. These two work so well in the ring together, mainly because they have so much history. There's various theories on what will happen with these two, mine of course is that they'll become the star tag team of the WWE.

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This leads me too Santino Marella. For the longest time I've been pissed at Santino and his whole persona, but now that he's actually bringing back his OVW move-set I'm happy with him. He's a great wrestler and his best match is on November 25'th Superstars.

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And lastly, today was the debut of NXT Season 4. Great show, alot of communication between the rookies and the pros which is a huge upside. I can actually see a team forming in Chris Masters and Byron Sax. Johnny Curtis is great in the ring, mic work can use some work. Bateman is also great in the ring and works well with Bryan, they had a great match against Del Rio and O'Brian.

So really, the only way to get the best out of wrestling is to be a real in depth fan, try to look beyond the faces of the WWE and watch the guys who are stealing the show.

 

[The_Killswitch]

Your very correct on all of your points and facts.
I was very hooked on the King of the ring qualifiers between Kingston and Swagger and they mesh really well together in the ring.
If more matches had the entertainment factor and not storyline ethic in it, it would be great.

We havent had Raw broadcast in New Zealand yet..but according to reports Tyson Kidd and David Hart Smith are impressing officials with their in ring work together.
Not only does a solid friendship and history showcase a great match..both have wrestled in the Hart family Dungeon and are family. Its great to see people Like Tyson ,Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler showcase what bought them to the dance within the WWE.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

Your very correct on all of your points and facts.
I was very hooked on the King of the ring qualifiers between Kingston and Swagger and they mesh really well together in the ring.
If more matches had the entertainment factor and not storyline ethic in it, it would be great.

We havent had Raw broadcast in New Zealand yet..but according to reports Tyson Kidd and David Hart Smith are impressing officials with their in ring work together.
Not only does a solid friendship and history showcase a great match..both have wrestled in the Hart family Dungeon and are family. Its great to see people Like Tyson ,Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler showcase what bought them to the dance within the WWE.

KOTR was awesome wasn't it?! I really thought it was a great time to turn Morrison heel but I like what they've done with the Sheamus angle. And I've also hear that officials are very high on the extended match that Smith and Kidd had on superstars last week so this feud should turn out awesome

 

[Arkham Noir]

There has been alot of good stuff going on in WWE. The only thing that bugs me is that the ratings haven't really improved, but ratings are..ahem...over-rated.

If WWE wants to nail a youth movement, than logically they should focus more on the mid-carders opposed to just pushing guys into the main event. Build up guys in solid feuds in the mid-card, and than put them in the main event scene when they are ready. Logical progression is the way to go, and at this point in time, WWE is doing a good job.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

If WWE wants to nail a youth movement, than logically they should focus more on the mid-carders opposed to just pushing guys into the main event.

There is so much young talent out there and WWE is finally putting that to notice. Last night was a huge night for wrestling because Seth Rollins(Tyler Black) wrestled Dashing in a dark match. Since he was aquired from ROH, I think this may be the first of many young performers to be invited to the WWE.

 

[CAPT SPAULD1NG8]

There is so much young talent out there and WWE is finally putting that to notice. Last night was a huge night for wrestling because Seth Rollins(Tyler Black) wrestled Dashing in a dark match. Since he was aquired from ROH, I think this may be the first of many young performers to be invited to the WWE.

i agree. the past few years wwe was looking to the indys for guys. they picked up cm punk, bryan danielson, kaval, tyler black. and now alex kozlov. moster of these guys have wrestled all over the world. they almost got nigel mcguinness but he ended up signing with tna and he hasnt been used right over there. could wwe be changing their image. i mean they arent going after the treditional beef cake anymore. i like husky harris and this new guy on nxt brodus clay. clay looks great in the ring and his mic skills seem to be pretty good. what im trying to say is that wwe's roster has looked to be the brightest in the buiseness. with the guys i mentioned and guys like kofi, swagger, miz, barrett, ziggler, mcintyre, rhodes, dibiase just to name a few wwe looks to be on the right track after a few years. i would like to see a few more guys ( aj styles, desmond wolfe, austin aries, davey richards) by=ut hey with what wwe has been doing as of late you never know.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

i would like to see a few more guys ( aj styles

You have some pretty good points especially with Aj. I've recently been wondering if Aj would make it in the WWE. His move set has gotten a little less indy which is good for WWE guys. Aj isn't that great but he is better than some superstars in the WWE on the mic. Alot has changed in the WWE since he last tried out, maybe in the future he'll jump shifts.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

You have some pretty good points especially with Aj. I've recently been wondering if Aj would make it in the WWE. His move set has gotten a little less indy which is good for WWE guys. Aj isn't that great but he is better than some superstars in the WWE on the mic. Alot has changed in the WWE since he last tried out, maybe in the future he'll jump shifts.

Dude AJ Styles is awesome, he is probably the best young wrestler in the business right now. I agree, his moveset would have to be toned down if he joined with the WWE, but as guys like Gabriel and Bourne can use their high flying moves having proved themselves capable of safely executing them, Styles would more than likely be able to utilise most of his moveset. I have never seen a major botch from him.

He is by far better and more charismatic than the majority of the WWE roster, and I think if he ever decided to leave TNA then WWE would snap him up right away. He is a big name now in wrestling, and there arent too many other guys on the TNA roster (bar ex-WWE names such as Angle and Jeff Hardy) who would cause a bigger pop for a WWE debut than Styles.

I do think we will see him in WWE one day, and I hope its soon. Perhaps when Mysterio retires, he will come in and replace Rey as the main event level high flyer

 

[TheAbsolute1]

I do think we will see him in WWE one day, and I hope its soon. Perhaps when Mysterio retires, he will come in and replace Rey as the main event level high flyer

I hope so, but he has two choices. Choice one, stay in TNA and in a decade maybe a decade in a half be known as the man who built TNA(Like Hogan is to the WWE). Or choice two, expand his career by jumping to the WWE, but just be another great WWE superstar. Tough choice but it's all on him.

 

[VinnieSunshine]

I have watched WWE for over 15 years and NEVER have I been such a fan of the mid-carders than I am now. I was a fan of Kofi when he debuted and it has just kept getting better and better. My cousin LOVES the ME scene and I tried to convince him that in 5 years or so, watch for guys like Bourne and Bryan to be holding the WWE title. He called me crazy.

Dont get me wrong, I love guys in the ME, but they are all still young too (JoMo, Miz, Cena, Orton, CM Punk, Sheamus) and THEY will be this generations versions of Undertaker, Triple H, Austin, Michaels, Hogan, etc. For the nay-sayers of the WWE youth movement I say this...

GO WATCH TNA! They are going in the reverse at some points. They pushed aside some of their young stars in favor of guys that should've or should be retired. You all want to complain about WWE moving with younger guys...how old was Flair or Michaels or Triple H or even Hogan when they were put in the ME scene? I rest my case!

 

[Cookie14]

I think all of the mid card guys are great wrestlers. I would just love to see WWE let them go out and have 20-30 minute matches, instead of only getting 5-10 minutes from them.

They don't have to feature every wrestler on every episode of Raw or SD to keep them relevent, if what we see from tem entertains us enough to make us care about them. Let them get ion the ring and have a couple of longer matches.

 

[6timehitta]

TBH I dont like the idea of AJ jumping ship, I mean money talks and all that shit but I don't think he could do that to the company HE built. But the idea of Tyler Black (Seth Rollins) in a dark match with Dashing already has me drooling. He has more talent than 90% of the roster now, with the exception of Bryan and Punk, Maybe Miz and JoMo but that is pushing it. The youth movement is honestly wats keeping me intrested in watching WWE. I follow FCW every chance I get, and I see the likes of Jackson Andrews, Richie Steamboat, Los Aviadores, Mason Ryan, and Donny Marlow, just to name a few and I look at today's WWE and try to fit these guys in the WWE now!!! I can not wait for the next 2-5 years and see all the talent that comes up and feuds with The Nexus (maybe), Miz, JoMo,Sheamus, Bryan, The Harts, The Uso's, and all the young talent on Smackdown.

 

[Dr. Stinger A. Zoidberg]

I agree with you. I think the mid-card division is the strongest it's been in years. The WWE probably realized back in 2007 that the way they were running it wasnt working. That's why from 2008 onward, we saw an influx of new competitors hitting the scene. In fact, some of these competitors even brought some prestige back to the mid-card titles. People like Miz, Bryan, Jo-Mo, Ziggler, Mysterio, and Kingston have proved to be vital parts of said division. Now they are all ready for the main-event. However their time spent in the mid-card division has helped people like Kidd, Smith, Rhodes, and McIntyre become the next influx of "mid-card machines." So, I agree with you completely on this.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

In fact, some of these competitors even brought some prestige back to the mid-card titles. People like Miz, Bryan, Jo-Mo, Ziggler, Mysterio, and Kingston have proved to be vital parts of said division.

This is something that I failed to mention. The WWE even brought main eventers down to boost the mid card titles i.e. Rey Mysterio and Chris Jericho recently won the IC title. Rey Mysterio for a moment boosted the career of Ziggler with a mid-card rivalry. Jericho and Edge won the tag titles, they were suppose to boost that division until Edge's injury. So something I didn't really notice, they have been boosting their mid-card titles lately.

 

[TheAbsolute1.5]

First post. YAY!
But seriously:
This is blasphemy. Truth be told, this is a horrible time for the WWE. Sure there is some potential in guys like John Morrison or Tyson Kidd, but guys like the Miz and Sheamus are so overrated. They're so generic, they have no personality, and even when they do have personality, it's either boring or just balls out stupid. I'd rather watch Vince Russo program 9 hours of straight television that one more second of Sheamus. THE MAN CAN'T FUCKING WRESTLE! His matches are more boring that Cena's, AND THAT TAKES EFFORT TO BE THAT BAD.

If you're excited about WWE today, then you obviously aren't old enough for the Attitude Era and you have no idea just how good it was. Sure, it's blown way out of proportion these days and I'd even go as far as to say that some people on this site overrate it, but unless you were there, then you don't know what good Vince McMahon can do when he's not restricting himself. I began watching WWE about fifteen years ago, I lived the Era, and it's one of those things where you are jaded as a wrestling fan because of it. What we are seeing these days is Care Bears Dick-Shit compared to what the Era was all about, and if you don't agree with me, then you obviously weren't there for it. You children need to learn about the past so that you can see just why the WWE today sucks as hard as it does.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

First post. YAY!
But seriously:
This is blasphemy. Truth be told, this is a horrible time for the WWE. Sure there is some potential in guys like John Morrison or Tyson Kidd, but guys like the Miz and Sheamus are so overrated. They're so generic, they have no personality, and even when they do have personality, it's either boring or just balls out stupid. I'd rather watch Vince Russo program 9 hours of straight television that one more second of Sheamus. THE MAN CAN'T FUCKING WRESTLE! His matches are more boring that Cena's, AND THAT TAKES EFFORT TO BE THAT BAD.

If you're excited about WWE today, then you obviously aren't old enough for the Attitude Era and you have no idea just how good it was. Sure, it's blown way out of proportion these days and I'd even go as far as to say that some people on this site overrate it, but unless you were there, then you don't know what good Vince McMahon can do when he's not restricting himself. I began watching WWE about fifteen years ago, I lived the Era, and it's one of those things where you are jaded as a wrestling fan because of it. What we are seeing these days is Care Bears Dick-Shit compared to what the Era was all about, and if you don't agree with me, then you obviously weren't there for it. You children need to learn about the past so that you can see just why the WWE today sucks as hard as it does.

first off, why are you being a clone? You're fucking stupid for stealing my name and on top of that using the same avatar. Prick.

We're not in the attitude era, just because something was great in the past doesn't mean it will always suck if it's not the same. The WWE has developed great young stars and years from now they will be te Stone Cold's Triple H's and Rock's. And the attitude era was restricted too. What the PG era lacks in entertainment value, they more than make up for in the money they now pull in. Alot more than they used to. Change your name jackass.

 

[SPEARSPEARSPEAR]

I agree with 1.5 on most of his points... but one thing I do not agree with is his Miz bashing... He may not be able to display much wrestling prowess when he's in the ring and the whole "Alex Riley is my bro, bro!" is far beyond dumb. But, if you had watched Tough Enough, he is indeed a DECENT wrestler. Sure, he does the much of the same routine night in and night out, but his mic skills make up for that for me. His shtick gets old from time to time but he has a few memorable one liners that makes him worth watching... and he's always in a decent feud.

Conversely, this is a bad time for WWE... the attitude era has spoiled most of us and left us yearning for what could be.

 

[TheAbsolute1]

I agree with 1.5 on most of his points... but one thing I do not agree with is his Miz bashing... He may not be able to display much wrestling prowess when he's in the ring and the whole "Alex Riley is my bro, bro!" is far beyond dumb. But, if you had watched Tough Enough, he is indeed a DECENT wrestler. Sure, he does the much of the same routine night in and night out, but his mic skills make up for that for me. His shtick gets old from time to time but he has a few memorable one liners that makes him worth watching... and he's always in a decent feud.

Conversely, this is a bad time for WWE... the attitude era has spoiled most of us and left us yearning for what could be.

that doesn't make any sense. That's like me having sex with the perfect girl, then she dies sometime later and me not ever fucking again. Sex is still awesome, granted not AS awesome without the perfect girl but wtf? Why would you give up on something just because it's not AS good? Great young wrestlers who are great in the ring. Ziggler, Kidd, Swagger, Bourne, Gabriel, Bryan, DiBiase, Rhodes, McIntyre, Hawkins and more. How is this not great?

 

[TheAbsolute1.5]

I have no Earthly idea what you mean.

And no, that's not how history works. Just because you make a lot more money doing something doesn't mean it's the better option. Enron made a lot more money depriving California of electricity than they did before, so does that justify the crap that they put people through? No. WWE puts out garbage that's marketed to kids now, when they could still be making better, more original, more creative, and much more entertaining television that's still marketed to the 18-30 demographic. Sure, the product was trashier back then, but pro wrestling was something that you only took your kids if you were comfortable with them being exposed to the product. It's the same way that I might let my son watch a violent movie, but yet I trust him not to try and replicate the images that he sees. Parents have to be good parents and teach their kids that what they see isn't appropriate for someone their age, instead of just forcing the market to be generalized, dumbed down, and fed to children who wouldn't know or even appreciate good wrestling if it stripped down and molested them in front of their own mothers. I only watch Raw these days because Smackdown alone is enough to give me an aneurysm. But where Raw might not be as dumb as Smackdown, it's still just as boring. The only person that I remotely find appealing anymore is CM Punk, and even his talents are being immensely suppressed by the Goddamn PG rating. He could be so much better if only he were allowed to cut loose and really antagonize a crowd like he did in the indies, and that's where my anger comes from. The Miz, as much as I hate the mother fucker, could be a lot better or original if only he were allowed to piss off adults, rather than children. The Rock was so great because he could work the whole audience, not just the kids and they're mammies. WWE sucks these days and the only thing I look forward to is Wrestlemania because at least they just shut up and put on good matches at that show.

P.S.
Most of those guys you mentioned might be decent wrestlers, but they're characters are so unoriginal and boring that I forget they even exist.

 

[SPEARSPEARSPEAR]

that doesn't make any sense. That's like me having sex with the perfect girl, then she dies sometime later and me not ever fucking again. Sex is still awesome, granted not AS awesome without the perfect girl but wtf? Why would you give up on something just because it's not AS good? Great young wrestlers who are great in the ring. Ziggler, Kidd, Swagger, Bourne, Gabriel, Bryan, DiBiase, Rhodes, McIntyre, Hawkins and more. How is this not great?

Sir, I never said I "gave up" on this era of the WWE, all I simply stated was that this era was not, in my opinion, as good as what we've had before. This is NOTHING like you huffing and puffing over some poor girl thats been paid 50 dollars and bound to the bed.
Sure, there are some great young wrestlers but that does not make the whole experience of the entertainment great.