The Sun newspaper

[HBK-aholic]

The Sun is the most popular tabloid newspaper in England, running on a Monday - Saturday with it's sister paper "News of The World" taking over on a Sunday. Now, despite it's popularity it has a reputation for being an awful paper. What do you think? Do you read it?

I read it on a Saturday usually, at work when I'm bored. I quite like it, but I think people hate it's absence of 'actual news' as I've heard it being called. It gives the war in Gaza maybe a paragrah a week? But we get lots of pages on Jade Goody and her wedding - a.k.a. the things I care about.

 

[Tastycles]

I am super torn. On the one hand, I hate the Sun because it is journalistic toilet paper, tells lies and then there's the whole Hillsborough lies thing, which means that as my entire family is scouse, I am pre-determined to hate it.

For those that don't know, Hillsborough was a disaster at a football stadium were 96 Liverpool fans died. It was later proved to be almost entirely down to police incompetence, but at the time was blamed on fans without tickets and Sheffield Wednesday (who's ground it was). The Sun ran an article titled "The Truth" and printed several unconfirmed stories about people robbing the dead and pissing on the police a they tried to help. Needless to say, this wasn't true, but the Sun didn't apologise for 17 years, and only then because Liverpool native Wayne Rooney was getting death threats for selling his life story to the paper.

On the other hand, I have to like The Sun as both my brother and my mate have sold stories to the paper in exchange for money. It paid for my brother's honeymoon, and because he got the idea off me, my mate gave me a free night out, which was pretty cool.

Still, the stories they sold were largely ficticious, so I think that due to its printing of patent lies, and because I am interested in approximately 4% of its content, I am Anti-Sun.

 

[a0161613]

I'm anti-Sun for almost exactly the same reasons as Tastycles. I'm not Scouse but I am a Liverpool fan.

However, their Saturday TV paper is sadly very good.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I hate The Sun because I like to buy actual newspapers. I buy The Independent every day. Sometimes I think, "Hey, am I just being a pretentious twat?". I promptly decide that no, I'm not. I'd just rather not buy Heat magazine under a different name.

Anybody remember the earthquakes in England about two years ago? I think it was two years ago. I heard they happened in my area, but slept through them. Anyway, the next day, The Sun ran this headline: ""BED SHOOK MORE THAN USUAL" SAY LOVERS". And that, in a nutshell, is why The Sun is an absolute piece of shit.

It, quite literally, has a reading age of, I forget, but between four and eight. It sensationalises everything. It's quite often prejudiced to the point of being racist - as is the Daily Mail. It covers stories on absolutely pointless things. If I want Nuts or Zoo, I'll pick it the fuck up. Turn the paper glossy and go with the lads mags where you belong.

 

[HBK-aholic]

I hate The Sun because I like to buy actual newspapers. I buy The Independent every day. Sometimes I think, "Hey, am I just being a pretentious twat?". I promptly decide that no, I'm not. I'd just rather not buy Heat magazine under a different name.

Anybody remember the earthquakes in England about two years ago? I think it was two years ago. I heard they happened in my area, but slept through them. Anyway, the next day, The Sun ran this headline: ""BED SHOOK MORE THAN USUAL" SAY LOVERS". And that, in a nutshell, is why The Sun is an absolute piece of shit.

It, quite literally, has a reading age of, I forget, but between four and eight. It sensationalises everything. It's quite often prejudiced to the point of being racist - as is the Daily Mail. It covers stories on absolutely pointless things. If I want Nuts or Zoo, I'll pick it the fuck up. Turn the paper glossy and go with the lads mags where you belong.

And that doesn't make you laugh? Oh come on, you could read that headline and stand and laugh, which is what I did when you just pointed it out. The Sun is entertaining. Is that the point of newspapers? Meh, probably not. But it's what sells the paper. It's cheaper than Heat too - it's only 30p!

And I share most of the same prejudices as The Sun, so it's even more entertaining! That's half a joke, but I find myself agreeing with a lot of what they say, so meh. I need to start reading the Daily Mail.

 

[Uncle Sam]

And that doesn't make you laugh?

No, it makes me weep. It's as if... OK, imagine this. It's as if someone's making me watch TNA. But all the time. That's how bad it makes me feel.

Oh come on, you could read that headline and stand and laugh, which is what I did when you just pointed it out. The Sun is entertaining. Is that the point of newspapers? Meh, probably not.

Definitely not. Besides, it's more of a comic book than a newspaper. Do they still sell The Beano? Same thing.

But it's what sells the paper.

I see, y'know, real people (i.e. members of the middle classes and above) on the train carrying this paper. It makes me want to cry.

And I share most of the same prejudices as The Sun, so it's even more entertaining! That's half a joke, but I find myself agreeing with a lot of what they say, so meh. I need to start reading the Daily Mail.

The Daily Mail is the women's paper. You'd like it. It's better than The Sun, too. It can actually be good at inciting racial hatred in literate people. The Sun can only do that with the semi-literate.

 

[HBK-aholic]

No, it makes me weep. It's as if... OK, imagine this. It's as if someone's making me watch TNA. But all the time. That's how bad it makes me feel.

That made me laugh too. I have an awful sense of humour don't I? It can't be THAT painful though. Nothing would be more painful than endless hours of TNA.

Definitely not. Besides, it's more of a comic book than a newspaper. Do they still sell The Beano? Same thing.

But the Beano doesn't have pictures of Jade Goody's wedding dress and her bald head. Ooh and picture of that 13 year old dad. See, The Sun is there for all the teenage girls like me!

I see, y'know, real people (i.e. members of the middle classes and above) on the train carrying this paper. It makes me want to cry.

While you have yoru independant. I used to laugh at work when all the doctors would come and buy the independent, and all the nurses get The Sun.

The Daily Mail is the women's paper. You'd like it. It's better than The Sun, too. It can actually be good at inciting racial hatred in literate people. The Sun can only do that with the semi-literate.

Ooh it's like a new challenge.

 

[Uncle Sam]

That made me laugh too. I have an awful sense of humour don't I? It can't be THAT painful though. Nothing would be more painful than endless hours of TNA.

It's like Don West personally penned every article. The horror, the horror. When I read it in my head, it's in Don West's voice.

But the Beano doesn't have pictures of Jade Goody's wedding dress and her bald head. Ooh and picture of that 13 year old dad. See, The Sun is there for all the teenage girls like me!

I'm 80% sure that that kid is not the dad anyway. They're having DNA tests. I wouldn't be surprised if The Sun just paid a six year old.

While you have yoru independant.

What is this? Japanese?

I used to laugh at work when all the doctors would come and buy the independent, and all the nurses get The Sun.

I like doctors.

Ooh it's like a new challenge.

They especially dislike the Chinese. Then again, The Independent isn't big on Israelis.

 

[HBK-aholic]

It's like Don West personally penned every article. The horror, the horror. When I read it in my head, it's in Don West's voice.

Haha, Don West should have a newspaper! If anything would outsell The Sun, that would.

I'm 80% sure that that kid is not the dad anyway. They're having DNA tests. I wouldn't be surprised if The Sun just paid a six year old.

Is The Sun really that bad?? I love how they have like 8 other guys saying they're the father, and The Sun has interviewed all of them. It's just sad I've read all of them, isn't it? The Sun puts an interesting, entertaining twist on stories like that, which is why I like it.

What is this? Japanese?

I don't know, ask Jake.

I like doctors.

I don't. They used to annoy me, and always tried to buy a paper with like a £20 note when I'd have no change in my till. Then they'd look at me like I was mad if I asked if they had change. I'm glad I don't work there anymore.

They especially dislike the Chinese. Then again, The Independent isn't big on Israelis.

I don't have a problem with Chinese people. All the ones I know are very nice. The sun dislikes all the immigrants.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Is The Sun really that bad?? I love how they have like 8 other guys saying they're the father, and The Sun has interviewed all of them. It's just sad I've read all of them, isn't it? The Sun puts an interesting, entertaining twist on stories like that, which is why I like it.

Today, it was revealed that Jacqui Smith doesn't live in her sister's spare room, but rather... AS THE BRIDE OF SKELETOR!!

In aid of stopping the violence in Gaza... THIS BITCH GOT HER TITS OUT!

I don't. They used to annoy me, and always tried to buy a paper with like a £20 note when I'd have no change in my till. Then they'd look at me like I was mad if I asked if they had change. I'm glad I don't work there anymore.

The upper classes aren't aware that there's a form of money below £20.

I don't have a problem with Chinese people. All the ones I know are very nice. The sun dislikes all the immigrants.

And why not? They're coming to get you. They're going to throw you out of your house and then use it as some sort of sick breeding nest. Keep your mouth closed or they'll lay their eggs in your throat!

 

[Leeds Guy]

i dont buy it but if somebody else does ill look at the sport section of it and probably page 3. i dont feel the need to read newspapers as i pretty much know whats going on in the world by watching Sky News. A paper that makes me laugh is the daily sport. you get some great stories in there that are absolutly fake but fun to read. But thats not why you get that paper.

 

[OIL]

I like The Sun, because instead of having real news it has things about UFOs and other such stuff. I find that more interesting than Gordon Brown making another speech about some crap I'll never care about. Plus, it comes up with the most ridicolous transfer rumors ever. Ballack to Championship team I remember.

 

[The Rob]

The Sun is both a good paper and a fucking shocking paper.

It's good because its laid back, interesting, colourful, has a cracking 3rd page every day and features things that we, as a generation, are more interested in. I know this sounds stupid but personally I'd rather read an interview with a celebrity about how their careers are and shit than read about how the stock market has gone down by like 0.0000000000000000000000000001%. Plus their sports section is normally very good (even if it is mostly about Lewis Hamilton being God during the Formula 1 season... something that really annoys me)

However The Sun is a bad paper because the storys aren't really important to the world. I'm sorry but Jade Goody's cancer battle has been on the front cover, basically every day since it started. Now whilst I feel so, so sorry for her and I respect the hell out of her for what shes doing to provide the most for her children, if we're honest, it dosen't deserve to be on the front cover of a national newspaper.

 

[Leeds Guy]

Plus their sports section is normally very good (even if it is mostly about Lewis Hamilton being God during the Formula 1 season... something that really annoys me)

But thats because he really is that good. the man can handle a F1 car better than some of the people who have been doing it most of their lives and hes only just about to start his 3rd year

However The Sun is a bad paper because the storys aren't really important to the world. I'm sorry but Jade Goody's cancer battle has been on the front cover, basically every day since it started. Now whilst I feel so, so sorry for her and I respect the hell out of her for what shes doing to provide the most for her children, if we're honest, it dosen't deserve to be on the front cover of a national newspaper.

While i feel sorry for Jades cancer battle, i dont respect her one bit. Shes doing whats shes been doing ever since she became ''Famous'' and thats fuck all. People like her and Kerry Katona (i know we wernt talking about her but i feel shes relevent to my point) do nothing but have aload of kids and then get depressed, and then whinge about it in hello magazine. i dont wish cancer on anybody and think she is now thinking about her children but before she wasnt she was just doing the exact same thing to try and make her look good and it didnt.

 

[The Rob]

But thats because he really is that good. the man can handle a F1 car better than some of the people who have been doing it most of their lives and hes only just about to start his 3rd year.

He is good, I'm not going to denie that. However I'm always going to take a biased opinion, being a die-hard Ferrari fan. I'm tempted to set up a Formula 1 thread in the sports area. We'll discuss it further there if you would like.

 

[Bozzaholic]

The sun is ok but there are better papers out there - I'm not a particularly big fan of the sports section due to their usual bad press towards Liverpool FC. The news is ok but to be honest if i'm desperate i'll read it online - If i'm buying a paper then I'll either go for our local paper (Evening Gazette) or The Mail

 

[jmt225]

I've never read the paper, but two things I've liked about this distribution company:

1. The women they showcase.

2. Paul Heyman writes for their website.

That's it.

But yeah... everything else seems to be bullshit, but what isn't these days? Fiction, more often then not, is a lot more fun then reality, even when the fiction is being put over as fact. You just have to take what they say with a grain of salt and grin at the hilarity of some the ridiculous shit they publish. Most recent comes to mind is there "Eddie Murphy as the Riddler and Shia LeBouf as Robin in the new Batman movie" headline. I'm sorry... but the thought of that is hilarious, and the fact that so many people raised such a fuss over it made it that much better.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

The Sun has everything your average person wants in a paper. Topless girls, celeb news, murder aand rape stories, sport etc. And all in bit size chunks. If people were really intrested in long stories about serious subjects, then they'd add them to the most popular papers in the country.

 

[GSM]

In germany we have a very similar newspaper called "Bild Zeitung" and well it´s pretty much the same garbage and the same lie spreading trash but unfortunately it´s the most read paper in the country. Why ?? Don´t know and somehow I hope i´ll never find out^^

 

[The Todd]

I am on a sports journalism course and we ar etold to read a different newspaper each day to learn their styles etc, but I stil won't buy the Sun. Even though it has a pretty good sports section, I won't get it. It's a pathetic excuse for a paper in my mind. It's extremely unethical and the stories they go with are piss poor. I could go into a rant on Jade Goody, but this isn't the thread. There are a few who buy the paper, those who look at the betting odds (the diamond and doughnut of the day and those who aren't interested in the writing side of the course but get it cos it is cheap.

As someone who is more interested in the writing side of journalism, the Times and Guardian are my usual papers. Now I don't give a toss about most of the paper, just the way the sports news is written. If i were to buy a red-top, it would be the Mirror. It is a little more classier than the Sun and the writers are of a better quality.