The Sports Bar

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

I think it was due to the fact that the Dolphins were at home too. They never do good at home except for one game.

Under Saprano, we suck at home. I can't understand it myself.


And that Cy Young win confuses me. It seems like one of the new stats that ESPN made up is to determine how many wins a pitcher "should" win? Unless I am wrong, all I can say is What. The. Fuck.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Doesn't confuse me. They made the right choice.

 

[Theo Mays]

Isn't the reason they are using one endzone is for the safety of the players since the other endzone is right near the brick wall? It makes sense in terms of safety if they were worried someone could suffer a serious injury that could be avoided.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

I still don't see why people are down on Da Bears.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

I still don't see why people are down on Da Bears.

He doesn't look too big on Da Bears either.

 

[Theo Mays]

I hate the Bears, but that's because I'm a Vikings fan. Parody is strong in the NFL this season as it is really hard to pick out the best team. It looked like the Pats, but they flopped against Cleveland yet dominated Pittsburgh. The Jets have needed OT to get wins out of Detroit and Cleveland and were shutout at home against GB. Pittsburgh has looked good minus their beatdown vs. the Pats. Falcons have looked good, minus the Philly game. Chicago is on a role now despite losing to Washington and what should have been a lost against Detroit week 1. Giants are still a playoff contender even though they looked pathetic early on and against Dallas last week. Same can be said for Philly who has been rolling lately as well. So many solid teams this year, yet it is near impossible picking out the best one.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

So true, but the Bears have a defense that's better than advertised, and an offense that works. I think people think of Jay Cutler like they think of Vince Russo, everything they do isn't good enough or is shit. It's just not always the case and unfair to Cutler.

 

[People's Champ]

What's funny is the NFL has always had a salary cap, and we saw dynasties. The first year there is no cap, we've got parody coming out the ass.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

But Culter loves to boost his INT number.

The guy is not a franchise QB in any way. I don't even think he is a starter. He is so damn inconsistent.

 

[The People's Peep]

Isn't the reason they are using one endzone is for the safety of the players since the other endzone is right near the brick wall? It makes sense in terms of safety if they were worried someone could suffer a serious injury that could be avoided.

Yea it is and the players are smart for bringing this to the attention of NCAA. I dont hate it. I think its awesome. I wasnt planning on watching this game before, but I might have to check it out now.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

But Culter loves to boost his INT number.

The guy is not a franchise QB in any way. I don't even think he is a starter. He is so damn inconsistent.

Bullshit. He's just like Brett Favre, and look where he is. His years in Denver were good and he just needs someone to throw to, I thought the Bears should have went after Moss.

 

[The Holy One]

He's definitely not a starter for your Fantasy team. He does need somebody to throw to besides Hester though.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

My play of last night had Hester involved.

Fields punted and Hester ran it back, Fields ran into a Bear and fell on top of Hester, stopping his run.

It was weird.

 

[Theo Mays]

So true, but the Bears have a defense that's better than advertised, and an offense that works. I think people think of Jay Cutler like they think of Vince Russo, everything they do isn't good enough or is shit. It's just not always the case and unfair to Cutler.

Yeah that Bears defense is good and trust me it is advertised. NFLN wouldn't stop talking about how great the Bears defense is. They are what, 4th in the league in overall defense? They got a solid team. Though I don't trust the offense enough for them to compete with the Packers. Though I do think they'll take one of the wild card spots.

He's definitely not a starter for your Fantasy team. He does need somebody to throw to besides Hester though.

Hell I wouldn't even call Hester the best WR on the team. He is the best playmaker that is for sure, but Johnny Knox is the better wideout. The guy just gets first down after first down. He did it last week against my Vikes and again against the Phins last night. But you are right, the Bears need to find "that guy" at WR to be a dominant force for years to come.

 

[ScruffDog]

Bullshit. He's just like Brett Favre, and look where he is. His years in Denver were good and he just needs someone to throw to, I thought the Bears should have went after Moss.

WOW! Really? Cutler is like Favre. Favre has won three MVPS, been elected to 11 Pro Bowls, Won a Super Bowl, and is a first ballet Hall of Famer. How is Cutler like Favre? Yes they both throw picks, but Favre wins games, especially early in his career. At this same point in Favre’s career he had already been a 3 time Pro Bowler and won his fist MVP.

To Cutlers defense, he has been to one Pro Bowl, and he will be a starter in the league for awhile, they're a lot of worse QB's out there, but he will not be a Hall of Famer like Favre is.

Yes the Bear don't really have any big name receivers, but that’s not that big of a deal, Favre never had any big name receiver when he was in GB. The bears are a running team anyways, and Forte is one of the top RB in the league.

The Bears have a lot of tough games left, and I don't think they are good enough to make the playoff, and if they do make it as a wild card, they wont get far.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

I enjoy when people try to legitimize the Pro Bowl.

 

[Megatron]

but as I said (and you ignored), who's to say if he's on a .500 team he doesn't pitch as well. At the end of the day, he pitched well enough to lose half of his games. He was amazing statistically, except for the one statistic that actually matters (wins). you can have 20 K's a game, but if you lose then it wasn't a good game, since your team lost.

Wins ARE overrated. That's why he ran away with the award over Price and CC. Because he is the best pitcher, but just doesn't get any run support. Put him on an average team and he's great.

Wins are heavily overrated, as are Saves. The real pitching stats that matter are ERA, WHIP, and BAA. If you're good in all of those, then you'll almost always have a shot at an award. If that wasn't the case, the BWAA wouldn't have voted for King Felix to dominate the award like he did.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

Wins ARE overrated. That's why he ran away with the award over Price and CC. Because he is the best pitcher, but just doesn't get any run support. Put him on an average team and he's great.

Wins are heavily overrated, as are Saves. The real pitching stats that matter are ERA, WHIP, and BAA. If you're good in all of those, then you'll almost always have a shot at an award. If that wasn't the case, the BWAA wouldn't have voted for King Felix to dominate the award like he did.

Oh please explain this. I'd love to see the reasoning behind that statement.

 

[The Brain]

Are you saying saves aren't overrated Doug? I'll take that challenge.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

WOW! Really? Cutler is like Favre. Favre has won three MVPS, been elected to 11 Pro Bowls, Won a Super Bowl, and is a first ballet Hall of Famer. How is Cutler like Favre? Yes they both throw picks, but Favre wins games, especially early in his career. At this same point in Favre’s career he had already been a 3 time Pro Bowler and won his fist MVP.

To Cutlers defense, he has been to one Pro Bowl, and he will be a starter in the league for awhile, they're a lot of worse QB's out there, but he will not be a Hall of Famer like Favre is.

Yes the Bear don't really have any big name receivers, but that’s not that big of a deal, Favre never had any big name receiver when he was in GB. The bears are a running team anyways, and Forte is one of the top RB in the league.

The Bears have a lot of tough games left, and I don't think they are good enough to make the playoff, and if they do make it as a wild card, they wont get far.

Same type of QB, the similarities are endless. Had Cutler stayed in Denver and had Marshall no one would be singing this tune. He'd be ranked with the likes of Phillip Rivers and Eli Manning. You also just said your =self that the Bears are a run first team, so how is a QB supposed to fill the stat sheet with a run first team and your number 1 weapon is a former DB.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

Oh please explain this. I'd love to see the reasoning behind that statement.

Are you saying saves aren't overrated Doug? I'll take that challenge.

Seconded.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

Let's just clarify before anything gets going, saves are overrated, not closers.

 

[The Brain]

Also saves are important, just an overrated stat.

 

[Theo Mays]

I find saves to be a bit overrated as well. I mean when you talk about the greatest closer in the history of the major leagues do you pick Trevor Hoffman? Lee Smith? Doubt it. Getting saves means your team is in a close game and you get out with a victory. So a team that plays close games with have a closer with an abundance of saves.

I mean look at the saves leader the past couple of years. Rarely does the best guy ever have the most saves.

2010: Brian Wilson
2009: Brian Fuentes
2008: Francisco Rodriguez
2007: Jose Valverde
2006: Francisco Rodriguez

Wilson is the only guy that I'd consider in the running for top closer. Saves are pretty much based off what your team is doing rather than you yourself.

 

[One Punch Doug Crashin]

That's kinda what I was saying. I just needed clarification on what he meant by "saves are overrated". The stat can be, the closer? no.