The Shield VS Kane and The Ascension?

[James Greiga]

I recently read an article saying this is likely to happen.

I think it's quite obvious that The Shield isn't breaking up anytime soon. I've heard rumors that they aren't intending to break up the Shield anytime soon, possibly not until next year's Wrestlemania or Royal Rumble. They say WWE has recognized their growing popularity as of late and want to capitalize and draw as much water from the well as possible before splitting them up.

I am actually really glad that we won't have to see The Shield in a triple threat for the US title. It would have made absolutely no sense. Ambrose held that title for how long now? Yet they all randomly would want it at Wrestlemania? That's ridiculous. There were no seeds being lain for it and I'm glad WWE decided against it.

Meanwhile they are involved with Kane. The Ascension is already supposed to debut soon and if ever there were a time to do it, it would definitely be tomorrow on RAW. The next week would be too close to Wrestlemania to announce a match and the crowd wouldn't be exposed enough to the to really care. Kane can introduce them as his new enforcers and they all go at it in a 6 man tag.

The question is, how do you feel about this match and how would you handle the story?

 

[Jack-Hammer]

IF they're genuinely deciding to wait to break The Shield up for a while, then it MIGHT work out well. The Shield taking out Kane this past Friday does suggest some sort of face turn, most likely we'd see them in tweener roles, is possible. Then again, this resurgence in solidarity among The Shield could also be WWE trying to catch fans off guard. Ambrose, for instance, could turn on Rollins & Reigns at the drop of a hat come WrestleMania with WWE portraying them all as being on the same page once again.

Still, the fact that they've taken out Kane could give The Authority the impression that The Shield is no longer an asset and need to be replaced. As it's perfectly natural for Kane to want vengeance for the disrespect he was shown this past Friday, it's possible they could bring The Ascension up from NXT as sort of a replacement for The Shield. You know, some fresh guys eager to prove themselves useful to The Authority and who haven't been corrupted by ambition or arrogance like The Shield has. It's possible that Ambrose could turn on Reigns at WrestleMania, if this match went down, and further ally himself with The Authority. This would leave Rollins & Reigns immediately in the position of babyfaces involved in their own feud with The Authority, or perhaps Reigns is left out in the cold with Rollins turning on him as well.

It'd be an interesting way to introduce The Ascension to the main roster, plus pairing them to work with Kane and being part of The Authority storyline would immediately make them part of a relevant storyline.

 

[Eddie Menuek]

To be completely honest this is a match that I'll struggle to be interested in and it stinks of a last minute change of heart, in regards to what happens with The Shield. Seeing the group stay together for the time being and go babyface isn't something that I'm opposed to at all, but you have to think that if this had been better planned then they might have ended up with a more relevant trio of opponents on the biggest card of the year. Kane is somebody that, with the exception of Team Hell No which was a great change of pace for the character, I've struggled to care about for several years now. As for The Ascension, it's not something that I'm totally opposed to but with less than three weeks until the big pay-per-view they haven't been seen on television. That's zero momentum to speak of in the eyes of the majority of the audience. Bringing them to the main roster and aligning them with Kane now just seems like a desperate move to have Shield on the card outside of the Battle Royal.

It's a shame with the run that The Shield have been on that this is what they might be up to at Wrestlemania. A trilogy of matches against The Wyatt Family culminating at the big one would have been a dream scenario but I guess that was never on the cards, and a match against John Cena is much healthier for Bray Wyatt.

 

[James Greiga]

IF they're genuinely deciding to wait to break The Shield up for a while, then it MIGHT work out well. The Shield taking out Kane this past Friday does suggest some sort of face turn, most likely we'd see them in tweener roles, is possible. Then again, this resurgence in solidarity among The Shield could also be WWE trying to catch fans off guard. Ambrose, for instance, could turn on Rollins & Reigns at the drop of a hat come WrestleMania with WWE portraying them all as being on the same page once again.

Still, the fact that they've taken out Kane could give The Authority the impression that The Shield is no longer an asset and need to be replaced. As it's perfectly natural for Kane to want vengeance for the disrespect he was shown this past Friday, it's possible they could bring The Ascension up from NXT as sort of a replacement for The Shield. You know, some fresh guys eager to prove themselves useful to The Authority and who haven't been corrupted by ambition or arrogance like The Shield has. It's possible that Ambrose could turn on Reigns at WrestleMania, if this match went down, and further ally himself with The Authority. This would leave Rollins & Reigns immediately in the position of babyfaces involved in their own feud with The Authority, or perhaps Reigns is left out in the cold with Rollins turning on him as well.

It'd be an interesting way to introduce The Ascension to the main roster, plus pairing them to work with Kane and being part of The Authority storyline would immediately make them part of a relevant storyline.

There was a report recently that The Ascension debuted at the house show in MSG. Considering this I wouldn't be surprised if the rumor of this 6 man tag is true

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

Feels too soon for them to make an impact on the roster sufficient of seeming like worthy opposition to the fully established Shield, and at Wrestlemania of all places. Association to Kane automatically grants them legitimacy in the eyes of the people, but not to the degree that them winning would look like anything less than an upset out of nowhere.

Besides that, it's a significant step down for The Shield. They and Bryan, along with stalwarts like cena and Orton, have been the anchors of the show over the last year. They haven't put a foot wrong and the potential for them to do something above-and-beyond at the big one should automatically grant them a big spot. They may have lost clean to the Wyatt's recently, but they are still too over as legit. threats and badasses to not stack them up against something worthy.

Either a high-scale break-up or a better match. That's what they warrant. There's still so much unseen ability from the guys who, from their very first match, changed everything. Let The Shield put The Ascension over at Extreme Rules, Wrestlemania belongs to them, Bryan and Bray. The future. Beards are cool I guess.

 

[MCMG]

I was looking forward to the three members of The Shield having a triple threat. They have delivered in pretty much every PPV match they have wrestled and would do it again. However, with the WWE WHC match being a triple threat, I understand the apprehension. I suppose I can wait a few months where won't be overshadowed.

A match vs Kane and The Ascension isn't exciting at all. The Ascension are a decent tag-team and I'm a huge Kane fan but they probably deserve more. They have been performing so well and just another random 6 man doesn't cut it. For me, I'd love to see them wrestle the Wyatt Family again but Bray is facing Cena.

I want it to be a triple threat but I can accept the 6-man. It will be a good match because that's kind off what The Shield do. The other possibility would have been Reigns + a partner vs Rollins and Ambrose. It would firm up the split and, depending on the partner, could help elevate Reigns. Rey? Jericho? Sheamus? All meh. If only he had a cousin or something that wrestled a bit...

 

[tomthebodz]

I like the idea of Kane v Reigns. Not too sure about Rollins/Ambrose v The Ascension.

I'd have Reigns come out and cut a promo about how he beat Kane's Rumble eliminations record. Kane responds by challenging Reigns to a match. Simple old fashioned storyline.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

While this doesn't necessarily mean that The Ascension will pop up for WrestleMania XXX, Kane did say something on Raw last night that MIGHT lend some weight to the speculation. Kane told The Shield, and I'm paraphrasing, that if they didn't tow the line they'd find out how easily they can be replaced. That indicates that if The Shield goes rogue, which it looks as though they have, then The Authority may bring in someone else to enforce their will.

Of course, there's been speculation that The Wyatt Family has been secretly backed by The Authority for some time now. So, maybe The Family will be formally revealed as being aligned with The Authority at WrestleMania or post WrestleMania as a means of continuing their rivalry with The Shield for a while.

 

[James Greiga]

While this doesn't necessarily mean that The Ascension will pop up for WrestleMania XXX, Kane did say something on Raw last night that MIGHT lend some weight to the speculation. Kane told The Shield, and I'm paraphrasing, that if they didn't tow the line they'd find out how easily they can be replaced. That indicates that if The Shield goes rogue, which it looks as though they have, then The Authority may bring in someone else to enforce their will.

Of course, there's been speculation that The Wyatt Family has been secretly backed by The Authority for some time now. So, maybe The Family will be formally revealed as being aligned with The Authority at WrestleMania or post WrestleMania as a means of continuing their rivalry with The Shield for a while.

I doubt it's the Wyatt Family. One of the things Bray said they were against was the machine during their feud with Daniel Bryan. Thats like Stone Cold joining the Corporation. Although he did join the McMahons eventually it's been thought of as the worst mistake in WWE history. I'm sure WWE doesn't want to repeat the mistake

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

I don't think that will happen and mostly because I think that it's already too late for that. We only have two Raw's until WrestleMania so forget about it. The Shield are an attraction and an important name in the company and so is Kane, but The Ascension are only big for a small part of an audience and mainly the ones that watch NXT (which is very few since not long ago it wasn't even distributed in the US).

I get the idea and I would like that of course, but one side of me would also want to see The Ascension come in with more time before being put in a big match against The Shield in such a big stage. I think that The Shield needs this victory for WrestleMania but The Ascension should not be called up to lose so soon. So that is a definitely not gonna happen from me - I can be wrong, but it's unlikely I am.

Rumors spread around is that Kane may team up with Luke Harper and Eric Rowan of the Wyatt Family to take on The Shield and try and "replace" them. If that happens I could totally see The Shield getting the big win and the heels wouldn't necessarily lose any steam with that loss. I also think that The Shield should turn against every guy in The Authority angle and not only Kane - so Triple H included. Mainly because I think that if The Shield helped Daniel Bryan get the title, we could have a six man tag match at Extreme Rules between Evolution and The Shield and then I would be happy with wrestling for the rest of my life.

 

[Blade]

The Shield as faces would likely be decent draws. I mean, let's face it, a considerable amount of buys for the Elimination Chamber PPV were because of the Shield vs. the Wyatts. People care about the Shield, and people enjoy the Shield. So why not give them a face run? Reigns has the presence of a face, Rollins has the moveset of a face, and Ambrose could be a very cool anti-hero. So why the hell not?

Now, there's no way the Ascension will be brought up to face the Shield at Mania. There's like 3 Raws left before big show. Even if the Ascension come in next week, squash the Brotherhood or the New Age Outlaws and other non-champion teams, people still won't see them as credible opponents to the Shield, because the Shield are on another level. They've transcended the tag team division at this point, so a new team coming in with only 3 weeks to build up some semblance of credibility isn't going to work.

So who's left to team with Kane to take on the Hounds? There's the New Age Outlaws. The NAO are entertaining, and they're alligned with the Authority. People seem to still care about them, due to the nostalgia fact, but they're not very good in the ring these days. The Real Americans have their own thing going on. The Uso's aren't turning heel any time soon. There's no way Wyatt's boys would team with Kane.

This leaves us with two possible teams. 1) You turn the Brotherhood heel. It would be a good twist, considering the Brotherhood butted head with the Authority a lot last year. But they still have plenty of reason to hate the Shield. Goldie and Cody have great chemistry with the Shield, so the match would deliver, and they do have a little bit of credibility left as a team.

Option 2 is the new Miz/Ziggler tag team that's in the works. Their gimmick is supposed to be two angry young men who are frustrated with their positions in the company. So why not suck up the Authority, team with Kane to try and get rid of the Shield, in the exchange for preferential treatment? It'd make for a good match. Then again, the Shield can deliver a good match against anyone at this point.

Unless the triple threat match is still Plan A, which I hope not. I want to see the Shield as faces for a while. But it wouldn't surprise me if Ambrose or even Rollins turned on the group and teamed with Kane. It would pain me, but it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Rocky84]

I just posted in the other thread about this, but I'll do double duty.

I'll start off by saying that Kane teaming with Rowan and Harper makes zero sense. There is no connection between them, and the fued between the Wyatts and Shield is pretty much over with.

However, a new force we haven't seen that could be built to be bigger than Rowan and Harper like The Ascension who is also more of a similar persona to Kane makes perfect sense. From the footage I've seen of them, they look pretty impressive as far as character and in-ring ability. I'm excited for their addition to the main roster. It's an interesting force opposing the Shield, and unlike the left over Wyatts, they could be more of a threat. Especially since the Shield don't know who they are...could be some shock factor (if the Shield can sell it).

I also don't think it matters at all that there's only 2 weeks left because we have 5 shows still. I just watched the episode of Raw on the Network where Vince bought WCW and in the beginning they had Kurt Angle complaining about how there was 6 days til Mania 17 and he had no opponent. If they were still able to have an awesome build up and match between Angle and Benoit 6 days out, then 2 weeks is perfectly fine.

 

[WarroBODFan]

I hate to sound entitled and spoiled, and I'm sorry if what I say comes off as that, but I find it hard to get overly excited about this possibility going into WM30.

We've been teased all sorts of different possibilities for The Shield going forward, and going into WM30. One month or two ago, I was ready for the split, which seemed to be inevitable until these last couple of weeks. Now I'm really excited about what they'll do with them going forward, especially in a tweener/face role which seems like the direction they're headed in.

But I can't help but be kinda sad we won't see the triple threat match between the three guys. I also now carry this feeling of whatever they do with them, whoever they face, it won't be on a level they rose to when they were feuding with the Wyatts. I didn't think it would be possible to peak too early before a PPV such as Wrestlemania, but now I'm thinking otherwise. Which is kinda why I like this possible face turn to give them something new to sink their teeth into. But....Corporate Kane? No thanks, sorry.

Kane has been my overall favourite wrestler while growing up. I was enamored with the big red ass kicking machine in his first few years, especially the Brothers Of Destruction run (username is kind of a giveaway...). I cannot begin to explain how much I hate the current Corporate gimmick. I understand Glenn Jacobs is one of the smartest, most eclectic men in the business, and if anyone could play the Corporate role, it's him. But I want the old Kane back, simple as that. As for The Ascension, as good as I've heard they have been in NXT, what would they even do with them in this match? Them winning makes The Shield look weak going forward, and them losing does nothing to aid their inevitable push towards the main roster. I don't see a winner out of this one personally.

 

[Skyfall]

This rumor about The Ascension coming up is what it is. A rumor. I don't think it's true at all.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Not Mania, but it's definitely possible for WWE to get the match for SummerSlam. I could see a scenario where The Authority is tired of Kane being weak, and so they tell him to become the monster he once was to regain control of the Shield. And in doing so, he recruits minions in The Ascension and then uses them to aid him in a rivalry against the Shield. Which then could set up to an even bigger stable with Kane's Ministry, the Wyatts, and the Authority... They could call it "The Corporate Ministry"....

 

[L@RISANO]

Not Mania, but it's definitely possible for WWE to get the match for SummerSlam. I could see a scenario where The Authority is tired of Kane being weak, and so they tell him to become the monster he once was to regain control of the Shield. And in doing so, he recruits minions in The Ascension and then uses them to aid him in a rivalry against the Shield. Which then could set up to an even bigger stable with Kane's Ministry, the Wyatts, and the Authority... They could call it "The Corporate Ministry"....

While it does seem a good idea, I would hope that the Shield is past the feud with Kane by the time MitB comes around, and in a programme of defiance with the Authority.

As for the rumours about the Ascension, I honestly never saw the logic in that match-up. The Ascension is reportedly a group that the WWE is high on and the Shield is now on a full face run. Either team taking a loss at Mania would have been a downer for them,lMO.I think when the Ascension come up, it will be a huge build-up in terms of new comers and against someone they can benefit from without derailing that opponent's momentum to create their own, the Shield was never going to be that opponent(not after losses at TLC and EC, whilst having dissension teases at the Rumble).