I have fond memories of Sing along with the Rock, when over 30 minutes of a live broadcast of Monday Night Raw was wasted to appease him. I have fond memories of him saying he was back for good, and hasn't appeared on WWE TV since they wasted an entire Monday Night Raw for his birthday this year. The 20+ minutes he wasted during WM27. I have fond memories of him not being active in the ring since 2003? Oh yeah Thats right he hasn't wrestled in over 7 years. Sorry I don't have any respect for someone who's past few appearances Ive had to see have been terrible.
That the recent appearances he's made are terrible is a subjective viewpoint, the fact of the matter being that he draws numbers because the vast majority of people enjoy watching him do what he does. So you don't respect him because his appearances have been terrible? That's a poor reason for not respecting the guy. Disliking him perhaps, not respecting him? Poor show.
"I have fond memories of Sing along with the Rock, when over 30 minutes of a live broadcast of Monday Night Raw was wasted to appease him." You seem to be in two minds here. You have fond memories and yet it was a waste? I don't really follow you.
"I have fond memories of him saying he was back for good, and hasn't appeared on WWE TV since they wasted an entire Monday Night Raw for his birthday this year." This isn't true. They UTILISED a FRACTION of the show to dedicate to his birthday, perhaps about half an hour of a 2 hour show maximum. And you seem to have interpreted back for good as making weekly appearances. What you fail to understand is he has a career now, prior commitments which are outside of a wrestling world. I think what he is saying if you're in a reasonable frame of mine to accept the message is that it's not going to be another seven years, rather he'll be making at least annual appearances on the show. You can't expect his to be there every week, it's not his job anymore.
" The 20+ minutes he wasted during WM27." And the million plus buy-rate he drew. You're not really convincing me anything he's done recently hasn't been worth doing I'm afraid.
End of the day, he will be wrestling and because the idea behind it was strategically set it's going to draw great numbers to Wrestlemania. Compare that to someone like Ric Flair who wrestles monthly in TNA and because of the poor build it draws next to nobody extra. Yeah I think Rocky had the right idea holding off for so long, but you wouldn't really see that would you? You're too busy not seeing Cena.
While Cena on the other hand has wrestled non-stop for the past 7 years. Cena has juggled being a full time wrestler, with everything else he's been involved with during that time. The Cena "only has 5 moves" joke is old, hes proven that he can actually go out and put on a great match. His build up to the finish a match does only involve a few moves, but the same can be said for every wrestler. Cena has put on matches with the best the industry has to offer. HBK, HHH, Jericho, Taker, all while the Rock was out prancing around in a pink tutu.
I don't see what this has got to do with anything. I never made any jab at Cena in the ring. He has had some great matches. But you forget The Rock has had great matches also and I would expect is more typically considered as a better in-ring competitor than Cena. And what exactly has Cena been involved with aside from Wrestling during that time? That time when he took time out to shoot a WWE movie? Big Whoop. Exactly what The Rock did when he went to star in The Scorpion King. And not forgetting The Rock also wrestled for 7 years straight just like Cena did. This stick you're using to measure Cena should be measuring Rocky equally as professionally they are/were both as dedicated and flag bearers for their respective generations. And the point about the Tutu? Come on bro. Conversely The Rock was fighting Stone Cold whilst John Cena was being laughed at impersonating Robocop.
Cena - Attitude Adjustment, STFU, Leg drop off the top rope, 5-knuckle shuffle, drop kick, Fisherman suplex, Belly to back suplex, Running leaping shoulder block, Running one–handed bulldog, Sitout hip toss, Thesz press, Running jumping neck snap, protoplex power bomb, Twisting belly to belly suplex, Vertical suplex... thats more than 5 its closer to 16 which gives him 4 more moves that the ROCK
Rock - People's Elbow, Rock Bottom, Running shoulder breaker, Float-over DDT, Flowing snap DDT, kip-up (does that even count?) Running swinging neckbreaker, Running thrust lariat, Samoan drop, Sharpshooter, Spinebuster, Snap overhead belly-to-belly suplex... 13? no 12 because the kip-up isn't a real move
Once again I don't know what this has to do with anything, I never made a single point about the in-ring ability of Cena. I'm certain you may be....ahem....forgetting a few moves on Rocky side to prove a point though.
WAIT does CENA DO MORE MOVES THAN THE ROCK?? again the wrestling moves they do don't matter because half of them are banned, and brawling happens more often than anything.
Speak English god damn you!
Edge put is body on the line to please his fan base and because he dreamed of being a WWE Superstar since he was a child.
I agree, and for staying with that dream as long as he could, he ended up with injuries that'll plague his personal life for as long as he has one. Just because The Rock opted for not being crippled quite as badly when he reached old age doesn't make him any less of a superstar. He lived through the attitude era and hence he took his bumps, he shouldn't need a doctor's note for him to be able to walk away from wrestling (for the time being).
Jericho's passion is in professional wrestling but when you've done it all like him you have to take a break and do something else. At least when Jericho comes back, he does something new, something different, something that makes him interesting.
You could just as easily say the same thing about Dwayne 'cept you could argue that Rocky needed a longer break than Jericho. When Rock came back he brought viewers. I sound like a broken record now but I hope the message is sinking in, doesn't matter how long he was away, how well you thought his segments went, the fact is he brought more people to wrestling and he returned to the place that made him. Why does it matter that it took him so long to do this?
The Rock returned and hes the exact same turd as he was in 2003, but with less hair on his head. The Rock went into the WWE because he couldn't cut it in pro football. You stated he left the WWE to make more money. Proving he's not back for his fans, hes back for a paycheck. The Rock started going by his real name, because the WWE owned the rights to the name, and when its used the WWE is paid.
Actually The Rock has stated several times he went into Pro Wrestling to make his family proud. "You stated he left the WWE to make more money." Are you sure? I thought I said he left the WWE to make movies because it was a lifelong ambition of his. I'm reading my previous post and...... nope doesn't mention anything like that. That's ok, just pluck ideas from anywhere to prove your cause. I know! I'll give it a try. "Rocky went away and that made me sad
", because that may as well be what I'm reading.
"The Rock started going by his real name, because the WWE owned the rights to the name, and when its used the WWE is paid." First of all that isn't true. Secondly, you're trying to suggest he would change his name to prevent WWE from getting money through use of it's mention. What? Are you suggesting he has some serious beef with the WWE despite coming back? I do not follow. Seems to be a re-occurring theme.
This argument is about the wrestling world not what happens in Hollywood. He can sell out box offices worldwide, but him being in Fast 5, makes me never want to see the film, because I cannot stand him and find his acting to be terrible.
I quite agree, I do not find his acting to be anything special. In fact he's on the more mediocre side of average but the fact he has been in a film that million have seen and then goes to a wrestling company naturally brings a lot of attention to the wrestling company. If you didn't see the film that's fine, nobody cares, but a lot of people did and many of those may have liked his performance and followed him over to Monday night Raw.
I'm well beyond the age of 8
Well I wouldn't go THAT far but...
and Cena one me over as a fan when he feuded with Edge. I respect what he's done for the WWE and professional wrestling.
As do I
I do not respect the Rock for turning his back on the WWE for more money, and I do not respect him for coming back for a big payout.
Neither would I, were it the case that he had turned his back on the WWE for more money. But seen as the case is that he actually wanted to be an actor, then it's less turning your back and more going on to new heights.
Ah see there is where you're wrong. Like I've said, wrestling as a sport isn't a mainstream form of entertainment. Acting is. Wrestling has a huge stigma attached to it with the muscle-bound red-neck perceptions of the guys many people have when they don't watch. Going to the WWE is more of a fiscal risk to him than a help, for people may associate him with wrestling and it's associated stigma and that'll harm his box office earnings.
But do you know the one party who is going to guaran-damn-teed benefit from his appearance. The WWE. And by association wrestling as a whole and that includes John Cena. You may be blind to the facts but The Rock returning IS him saying thanks to the business.
do you really think we mean it literally?!
lets set the facts straight.
