The rise of JoMo?

kobrad

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tonight on RAW Morrison finally got a legit win on a main event guy, Chris Jericho. It was a great wrestling match in my opinion. I dont know if this is his push starting or just another way to end Jericho's career.

Is JoMo FINALLY getting his push that is so deserves?


Thoughts? remember to explain your reasoning
 
Morrison looks good in all of his matches, and so does Jericho. This would be a great long term rivalry, but I doubt it.

You asked if this is the rise of JoMo? He just cleanly defeated a man who main-evented Wrestlemania, and won that match. A guy who was about to main event another PPV. HUGE win for Morrison and hopefully its the start of something bigger.
 
JoMo needs work on the mic desperately if he's ever going to be a main eventer. His mic skills were much better suited to a heel persona and the jokes he cracks as a face are nothing but facepalm material.

That said a feud between him and Jericho could be interesting. If it were up to me I'd have Jericho attack Morrison for being nothing more than a wannabe rockstar when Jericho (with Fozzy) is a real one. Good for some cross-promotional stuff with Jericho's band and it could help Morrison get over with a legitimate feud with a main eventer instead of languishing in midcard purgatory as he has been for some time now.
 
I highly doubt that it is the rise of JoMO, they simply needed a way to get Jericho out of the main event and he was simply the only face that could do it since Bourne has already feuded with Jericho. This guy hasn't been able to do ANYTHING since breaking away from the Miz and every week he becomes more and more bland while finding a new way to botch his own finisher. I'm guessing they didn't want to have to force Jericho into the retirement situation that they had been building up as they clearly did not want him to leave NOC with the title but did not want to back themselves into a corner if Jericho changed his mind and decided to renew his contract instead of letting it expire. JoMo on the other hand still has his feud with Ted to do before he can have any sort of "rise" in his career and with the way that feud has gone I doubt it would be compelling or even memorable if they do choose to continue with it. One day JoMo might get a championship match once again but at the rate he has been going it is highly unlikely for him to ever even get a shot again while he remains as a face. If he were allowed to turn heel and use what little mic skills he has instead of doing his cheesy cliched face talk then he has a chance of tasting gold again but without a major moveset overhaul and flat out not using the Starship Pain ever again in favor of the moonlight drive, superkick, or something innovative that will set him apart from the rest of the wrestlers but in a good way, unlike with the SSP.
 
I think that john Morrison should be elevated t main event card. I think heshould be wwe champion, as we saw when he was ecw champion he can lead a show and mae it entertaining
 
I think it could be the start of JoMo's push. Smackdown is moving to SyFy and they're gonna need more stars so maybe the WWE realized that Morrison could be a fresh face in the main event picture. Now I'm a huge Miz fan but I still am not happy with the fact that Miz and Morrison went into the whole "Who is the Jenetty" storyline because in my eye neither of them should be considered the "Jenetty". Morrison is a star and he proves that everytime he enters the ring. Now yes, he may not be the best on the mic but he surely makes up for it in the ring. When he was ECW Champion he actually looked like a main eventer. He should go back to Smackdown and fued with maybe CM Punk or somebody who can get him over. I would really hate to see him cursed with Shelton Benjamin Syndrome but if WWE doen't start pushing him now he will end up like Zack Ryder...WHO I might add should not be jobbing and being treated like garbage. The only other thing I noticed tonight on RAW was that when Morrison sat down next to Jericho towards the end of RAW it seemed like they were setting it up for either a fued or a Jericho face turn/mentor position to JoMo. Hell, JoMo could even be the one who takes Jericho's spot at NOC...
 
I highly doubt that it is the rise of JoMO, they simply needed a way to get Jericho out of the main event and he was simply the only face that could do it since Bourne has already feuded with Jericho. This guy hasn't been able to do ANYTHING since breaking away from the Miz and every week he becomes more and more bland while finding a new way to botch his own finisher.

ok first off, i agree with you on everything you said except the last part, but REALLY
what the hell, when did winning a god damn intercontinental title constitute as nothing, he had one of the top 10 best matches of the year with rey mysterio (FACT) and a beat a world heavyweight champion in a non-title match TWICE, seriously, don't be an idiot.
 
Was it just me or was RAW on point with the backstage segments tonight? I thoroughly enjoyed them from Miz and Josh Matthews to Edge and Zack Ryder. Even John Morrison was entertaining in his segment with Chris Jericho. So yes there is a possibility that this might be a push for JoMo that so many here have been clamoring for for whatever reason. The guy had a great match tonight but it was against Jericho so that was a given. Sure he's exciting to watch at times but until his mic work gets up to par, I see him getting Evan Bourne'd after this push.
 
I was thinking that he was going to take Jericho's spot, so I was Ecstatic.
Then the Commentators cleared it up and said that it was just a "5-Pack Challenge" now.

So, I'm thinking some kind of Program with Jericho would work wonders for Morrison.
The little Backstage segment they had, while simple, was Well-Done.
You can hear the Entire Audience in Attendance Cracking up.
And him making Fun of Jericho's phrases was funny.

I'm still keeping my hopes up for him.
Just please, stop having Morrison lose to Miz in EVERY damn match that they have!
 
ok first off, i agree with you on everything you said except the last part, but REALLY
what the hell, when did winning a god damn intercontinental title constitute as nothing, he had one of the top 10 best matches of the year with rey mysterio (FACT) and a beat a world heavyweight champion in a non-title match TWICE, seriously, don't be an idiot.

Well considering I never even knew he was the person that beat Rey Mysterio for the IC title and dropped it to McIntyre that should show how forgettable of a reign he had. I watch WWE programming every week and even when I don't I read the results/spoilers and stay in touch with absolutely anything that goes on in the business. Before Morrison got it I remember Mysterio and Jericho feuding over it and even the Ziggler/Mysterio feud but for the life of me I can't remember a damn thing from the 3 months that Morrison held the title. The moment I heard that Drew McIntyre won it my initial thought was "well who the fuck did he beat to win it?" Winning the IC title might not count as nothing but the lackluster time he held it definitely does in my eyes. Maybe I'm just blinded by his blandness though and the fact that the only time I ever found him interesting was at the tail end of his ECW title reign and when he tagged with the Miz.
 
So, when are people gonna realize that Morrison has stagnated in just about everything years ago? I mean, more power to ya if you like the guy, but when are people going to stop acting like he hasn't gotten the opportunity to become a main eventer? Heck, he was in the main event of a PPV a few weeks ago, and I really don't think anyone remembers a) why him and b) what exactly did he do in the match.

If Jericho leaves the Raw ME, then I see no reason why anyone would not put Wade Barrett permanently in the ME for the foreseeable future.
 
So, when are people gonna realize that Morrison has stagnated in just about everything years ago? I mean, more power to ya if you like the guy, but when are people going to stop acting like he hasn't gotten the opportunity to become a main eventer? Heck, he was in the main event of a PPV a few weeks ago, and I really don't think anyone remembers a) why him and b) what exactly did he do in the match.

If Jericho leaves the Raw ME, then I see no reason why anyone would not put Wade Barrett permanently in the ME for the foreseeable future.

Most people forgot that he main evented Summerfest... er Summerslam is because the only buildup concerning Morrison was the blowup of his "friendship" with Truth because Truth cost him a match. During the match all I remember him doing was getting absolutely destroyed by Sheffield which occurred again the following night. He was only thrust into the match because they for a seemingly unknown reason could not find someone better to replace him even though Bourne was an obvious choice, having helped Cena out in the past and been his new buddy. Morrison is little more than a filler guy used when they can't think of anyone else and simply causes the average audience to do some cheap pops because of his flips and shit. Sure he does some great kicks but that can't be all that a guy is good at. Maybe one day he will do something notable that will impress me, I'd really love it if he did, but for the time being he will be little more than a midcarder that is used to fill spots when they can't think of anyone better to use.
 
I highly doubt that it is the rise of JoMO, they simply needed a way to get Jericho out of the main event and he was simply the only face that could do it since Bourne has already feuded with Jericho. This guy hasn't been able to do ANYTHING since breaking away from the Miz and every week he becomes more and more bland while finding a new way to botch his own finisher. I'm guessing they didn't want to have to force Jericho into the retirement situation that they had been building up as they clearly did not want him to leave NOC with the title but did not want to back themselves into a corner if Jericho changed his mind and decided to renew his contract instead of letting it expire. JoMo on the other hand still has his feud with Ted to do before he can have any sort of "rise" in his career and with the way that feud has gone I doubt it would be compelling or even memorable if they do choose to continue with it. One day JoMo might get a championship match once again but at the rate he has been going it is highly unlikely for him to ever even get a shot again while he remains as a face. If he were allowed to turn heel and use what little mic skills he has instead of doing his cheesy cliched face talk then he has a chance of tasting gold again but without a major moveset overhaul and flat out not using the Starship Pain ever again in favor of the moonlight drive, superkick, or something innovative that will set him apart from the rest of the wrestlers but in a good way, unlike with the SSP.

My thoughts exactly. JoMo FoSho is a very good wrestler, but much like Edge & Jericho, his time will be spent at the midcard level for some time and the beating of Jericho is more of them burying Jericho so they can write him off of Raw as he seems to be leaning toward taking at least some time off after his contract is up, which is actually right around the corner.
 
tonight on RAW Morrison finally got a legit win on a main event guy, Chris Jericho. It was a great wrestling match in my opinion. I dont know if this is his push starting or just another way to end Jericho's career.

Chris Jericho isn't a main event guy. He's an upper mid-carder with available to step into the main event.

Is JoMo FINALLY getting his push that is so deserves?

John doesn't really deserve a push. He's shit. Besides Jericho is really no definite push for anybody except for the part where he makes someone look brilliant in the ring. But really Jericho is barely the stepping stone into the main event that people make him out to be. The firm main event wrestlers are that stepping stone (Randy, Edge, Cena, Triple H, hell even Sheamus).

Besides, no John isn't getting any push. He defeated a guy that many of the WWE roster members can express the same experience of doing. Jericho is merely around to make people look good, and to win occasionally, while losing the majority of his matches. John Morrison practically just defeated a guy slightly above his level, hardly a push, and if it was, then it was hardly a noteworthy one.
 
Beating Jericho doesn't mean anything anymore. Jericho has been losing the majority of his matches as of late, he's pretty much a jobber. Anyway Jericho isn't really a main eventer he just steps up now and then when he needs to, he's a upper mid card so JoMo beating him isn't really an upset.
 
I really want JO MO to get pushed to but as a heel because the beard gives him the bad guy look in my opinion. Also JTG becat Jericho a few months ago remember :disappointed:
 
Jomo might get a major push, but the storyline its just around Cena, Wade, Sheamus and Randy. So I'm pretty sure that John wont be a big facter in the 6 pack match. Maybe John could get a US title run and feud with Daniel Bryan. But I dont see a WWE title run for him.
 
First off, on a side note... Did anyone else hear the crowd chanting "TNA" when jericho was walking back after his match?

but after JoMo beat Jericho my first instinct was he was going to replace him in the 6 pack challenge. AND Win it.

Miz would lose the US title to Bryan.

After JoMo wins the WWE title. Miz cashes in. They kinda sorta hinted at a jomo/miz rivalry on monday.

I think it'd be a cool way to go, I just think it might be a little too soon for them, maybe in a couple years these guys could be main eventing together. but not yet... so a JoMo/Jericho rivalry is more likely. just an idea tho.
 
but after JoMo beat Jericho my first instinct was he was going to replace him in the 6 pack challenge. AND Win it.

What? What has Morrison done that warrants being in the match. Big deal, he beat the guy with the least likely chance to win the 6 pack challenge. Barrett is on fire. Orton is on a mission to win the title. Cena wants to kick Barrett's ass. Sheamus just wants to leave with the gold he went into the match with. Okay, I can't find a reason for Edge outside of the generic "Well, he is a 'main event' and he has to be in a 'main event' match".

After JoMo wins the WWE title. Miz cashes in. They kinda sorta hinted at a jomo/miz rivalry on monday.

That feud didn't work at the mid card level because The Miz is obviously so much better than Morrison at everything but flips that it isn't funny. Why would work on a MUCH MUCH larger scale?

I think it'd be a cool way to go, I just think it might be a little too soon for them, maybe in a couple years these guys could be main eventing together. but not yet... so a JoMo/Jericho rivalry is more likely. just an idea tho.

They feuded. The Miz won and moved on to bigger and better things while Morrison is still botching his finishing move regularly. End of story.
 
Was it just me or was RAW on point with the backstage segments tonight? I thoroughly enjoyed them from Miz and Josh Matthews to Edge and Zack Ryder. Even John Morrison was entertaining in his segment with Chris Jericho. So yes there is a possibility that this might be a push for JoMo that so many here have been clamoring for for whatever reason. The guy had a great match tonight but it was against Jericho so that was a given. Sure he's exciting to watch at times but until his mic work gets up to par, I see him getting Evan Bourne'd after this push.

Yeah, the backstage segments were all really good on RAW for me. I thought the show, minus the botches, was very good.

As for the main topic, it is hard to tell. It could lead to a push but then again, it might not because a lot of people have been put over by Jericho over the last year or so. Off the top of my head, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, R-Truth and even JTG have gone over Jericho over the past few months and they're still midcarders. We'll just have to see how they follow up on it on RAW. As long as they don't give him any promos that sound as bad as the one when he insulted Maryse, he'll be fine.
 
I like Morrison he is a good worker has a strong fanbase and is over with even the young fans.
But ever since the split with the Miz I feel that they have fcoused more on pushing Miz then Morrison.
I do know why cause looking in the future they need both of these guys to further run the comapany to even higher heights than it it is now.
And why both the miz and jomo are on the same show is beyond me I think jomo should move to smackdown because raw is just not working for him right now.

Btw enterkey who is that pic of she is smoking hot
 
I would love to see JoMo to win by everyone ignoring him and THEN getting SCF'd by Miz for the title. The potential for Monday Night would just be endless after that. JoMo gets to smacktalk the other 5, Miz gets to prance about with the a shiny new prop and you start a mini feud.

Too bad it will never happen with people like Orton and Sheamus around.
 
Morrison is the Marty Jennety of today's world... or even the Matt Hardy... yes, he's got an IC title reign to his name, but he's not going ANYWHERE beyond that. His mic skills are far less than desirable and his in-ring work is decent. I agree that his finisher is catchy, but he just doesn't have that Main Event look nor does he have the drive to be in the Main Event.

Morrison, to me, is where he belongs. A solid mid-carder who gets put into good matches with main eventers. That's where he's at and that's where he should be.
 
John Morrison has the charisma, the look, and the potential to be the next HBK (they even called him the next HBK a few years ago in almost every dirt sheet) so the question is what went wrong. 2 Things went very wrong, first of all they put the ECW title on him and if you look back EVERYONE (with the exception of kane) who has held the ECW title has been relegated to near crap since they dropped it. Secondly and more importantly they turned him face. HBK didn't become popular from his days as a face he got over as a heel and then turned face later when he had enough heat to turn it into a good pop. I still see Morrison evolving his promos are still crappy but they tend to show a glimmer of hope now and then. He needs to drop the starship pain because it doesn't look anywhere near as impactful as the SSP or the 450 splash. I personally liked the moonlight drive it had finisher written all over it. Even his old backdrop/ facebuster was better then SSP.

On a side note WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE when it comes to calling Jericho a non main eventer? Are you smoking crack? This guy was main eventing wrestlemania and winning world titles when Randy Orton was in high school!!!! He was facing the Rock and Steve Austin and HHH when Cena only knew 2 of his 5 moves of doom. He was a bigger star on his debut in WWE in 1999 then Sheamus still has to achieve. He was World Champion just 2 years ago. It's really liked people forget he's a six time world champion and a nine time IC champion just because he's interchangeable in the Main Event and Mid-Card scenes. Guess what? So is/was CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, HBK. Someone gonna tell me any of those men are not Main Eventers? Jericho will always be a main eventer I don't care if he's the next Doink the Clown.
 
Things went very wrong, first of all they put the ECW title on him and if you look back EVERYONE (with the exception of kane) who has held the ECW title has been relegated to near crap since they dropped it.

I'd say CM Punk has done alright. Seems you agree, seeing as you refer to him as a main eventer later in your post.

I still see Morrison evolving his promos are still crappy but they tend to show a glimmer of hope now and then. He needs to drop the starship pain because it doesn't look anywhere near as impactful as the SSP or the 450 splash. I personally liked the moonlight drive it had finisher written all over it. Even his old backdrop/ facebuster was better then SSP.

The best thing they could do with him, for a start, is give him a gimmick that is relevant to today. If they're going to pattern him after HBK then bring him into the 21st century as the Jim Morrison influenced gimmick is not main event material. It's a sad day when his mike work is so beyond poor that you've got comedy acts like Santino that own him on the mike.


On a side note WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE when it comes to calling Jericho a non main eventer? Are you smoking crack?

Actually Jericho himself has admitted he's not a true main eventer and that he's comfortable with his "just below the main event" level of success, as he should be.

This guy was main eventing wrestlemania and winning world titles when Randy Orton was in high school!!!!

Or training in OVW, close enough I guess

He was facing the Rock and Steve Austin and HHH when Cena only knew 2 of his 5 moves of doom.

And showing not an ounce of main event potential while doing it. I mean, Cena might not know as many moves as Jericho, but he would never have looked out of place in the ring against Austin and Rock. His few moves are also a lot easier to believe in then a lot of Jerichos too,

He was a bigger star on his debut in WWE in 1999 then Sheamus still has to achieve.

On his debut...yes....within weeks of it when he was losing to X-Pac, Sheamus had him beat.

He was World Champion just 2 years ago.

Khali was World Champion a few years ago too.

It's really liked people forget he's a six time world champion and a nine time IC champion just because he's interchangeable in the Main Event and Mid-Card scenes.

And Jeff Jarrett is a 10 time world champion and 6 time IC champion. People don't forget these things. He's very appreciated but people are realistic about his place in the whole scheme of things.

So is/was CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, HBK. Someone gonna tell me any of those men are not Main Eventers?

But by your logic Punk's flunked since losing the ECW title. I'd say he's not main event either. I think he has the chance to be a huge main event star, but it's not happened yet.

Jericho will always be a main eventer I don't care if he's the next Doink the Clown.

He dressed up as him once though, was quite funny.


Onto Morrison, I really hope this isn't the start of his rise to the main event. Until he learns to deliver his lines with some passion (like a Cena HBK Jericho or even a Miz can) he will never be able to break out of that basic mid-card spot and head towards the upper mid-card. Shame as he's got the look to go somewhere, just the pieces missing will really hinder him in WWE. I think he'd be better suited to TNA as his move-set is catered to fit with someone like AJ Styles and his character could actually come out there
 

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