The Official Jeff Hardy is a Hack/Spot Monkey/ We Told You So Apprecitation thread.

[y2jedge]

Well I would rather see Hardy with the belt over stupid fucks such as Batista, Lashly, Cena, Khali, Big daddy V. Also the old timers like HHH, HBK, Undertaker need to make way for a new generation. Which includes Orton, Edge, Hardy, and Kennedy. You can't wait till a guy is 33 to start pushing him that's just stupid. And for fucks sake, HE WRESTLES FOR WWE, not ROH or TNA, nobody gives a shit about wrestling ability in that organization. And if you are only watching for good wrestling, just go watch TNA or ROH,
Bottom line- he has busted his ass for the fans and he deserves the long overdue push

 

[Uncle Sam]

He may have busted his ass, which I disagree with, but so have a massive amount of wrestlers. And guess what? Most wrestlers don't make the main event on wrestling's number one company.

Wrestling ability is still important in the WWE, despite it not being a wrestling orientated product like ROH. Being a spot monkey is not excusable in the WWE in this day and age. I'd rather have "stupid fucks" like Batista and Big Daddy V challenging for the title.

No one's taking up the challenge yet.

 

[Burngun]

I'll change my name to Jeff Hardy's Lover. My limit is 5 matches without weapons.

Smackdown! April 12th 2001: Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy
No Way Out 2003: Chris Jericho vs. Jeff Hardy
Unforgiven 2006: Johnny Nitro vs. Jeff Hardy
Great American Bash 2007: Umaga vs. Jeff Hardy
Armageddon 2007: Triple H vs. Jeff Hardy

 

[Uncle Sam]

I'll look them up...

 

[Uncle Sam]

Hmm, well I didn't like any of them that much aside from the Jericho one, particularly the Nitro or Umaga matches. However, I won't be accused of trying to squirm out of this so I'll make the name change request right away.

 

[Bernkastel]

Matt Hardy> Jeff Hardy nuff said

 

[beetle717]

Attention Jeff Hardy fans. Please list 10 good NON GIMMICK matches of his. If you can give me 10 sold matches where he hasn't used any weapons then I'll become an uber Jeff Hardy fan. I'll have a sig with him on. I'll change my name to Jeff Hardys #1 Fan and whatever else you wish.

Like I said the only condition is that there must be no use of weapons or weapon shots. Oh and no tag matches with his brother. Because he's the wrestler out of the two.

Good is an opinion my friend. All you would have to do is say you didn't like the match to get out of the bet. I've enjoyed some of his work and thought it very good, other times he falls flat, but it's all opinion.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Well, I didn't get out of it, did I? And see what happened.

 

[Riccay]

Heh, this topic reminds me of exactly what my dad says when we watch Raw, "oh great here comes the rainbow haired hack" he always says with a sarcastic voice.

I on the other hand find Jeff Hardy to be quite entertaining. I'd much rather watch a Jeff hardy / RKO feud than a Triple H / RKO feud. But his mic skills are less than great, but that can easily be worked on. his fanbase is excellent because he has always been a face mid-carder. not like cena who was shoved down peoples throats. jeff hardy gained a fanbase by being a hard worker, spending some time on the bottom, and working his way up.

WWE Champion material? Yes; but not yet. Maybe by the mid-end of 08'.

 

[BooCocky]

Heh, this topic reminds me of exactly what my dad says when we watch Raw, "oh great here comes the rainbow haired hack" he always says with a sarcastic voice.

I on the other hand find Jeff Hardy to be quite entertaining. I'd much rather watch a Jeff hardy / RKO feud than a Triple H / RKO feud. But his mic skills are less than great, but that can easily be worked on. his fanbase is excellent because he has always been a face mid-carder. not like cena who was shoved down peoples throats. jeff hardy gained a fanbase by being a hard worker, spending some time on the bottom, and working his way up.

WWE Champion material? Yes; but not yet. Maybe by the mid-end of 08'.

Or maybe because Hardy does little flips, and has to hit a big spot, for his matches to be entertaining.

 

[Riccay]

Or maybe because Hardy does little flips, and has to hit a big spot, for his matches to be entertaining.

the flips are pretty kickass. it takes a lot more to do a swanton bomb than a clothesline from hell, or an RKO. he puts 100% effort into all of his matches, and he is charismatic and very over with the fans.

if charisma, effort, and a fanbase aren't what make a champion; what does? gimmick?

 

[BooCocky]

the flips are pretty kickass. it takes a lot more to do a swanton bomb than a clothesline from hell, or an RKO. he puts 100% effort into all of his matches, and he is charismatic and very over with the fans.

if charisma, effort, and a fanbase aren't what make a champion; what does? gimmick?

Drawing Power? Mic Skills? Merchandise sales? Or when he can work a match and get a good reaction without doing a flip, then we can talk...

 

[Uncle Sam]

Jeff is the worst of things: a spot monkey that can only do a single flip in one fall. He usually just falls rather than jumping anyway.

 

[wwe2473]

at least he is trying to work on his mic skill but i dont get why he is being pushed so hard! i hope randy keeps the belt

 

[lionheart01]

Attention Jeff Hardy fans. Please list 10 good NON GIMMICK matches of his. If you can give me 10 sold matches where he hasn't used any weapons then I'll become an uber Jeff Hardy fan. I'll have a sig with him on. I'll change my name to Jeff Hardys #1 Fan and whatever else you wish.

Like I said the only condition is that there must be no use of weapons or weapon shots. Oh and no tag matches with his brother. Because he's the wrestler out of the two.

Alright this should be easy....

1. Jeff vs HHH Armageddon 2007
2. Jeff vs Umaga Gab 2007
3. Jeff vs Kennedy Cyber Sunday 2007
4. Jeff vs Kennedy Raw 7/23/07
5. Jeff vs jeff jarrett TNA
6. Jeff vs Monty Brown Genesis 2005
7. Jeff vs Nitro Unforgiven 2006
8. Jeff vs nitro Raw 11/13/06
9. Jeff vs Regal vs Santino vs Shelton Raw early july
10.Jeff vs Shelton Benjamin Raw fall

So theres your ten matches Y2jake(or should i say jeff's #1 fan), 10 matches without a single weapon used.
So i guess you are now a uber Jeff Hardy fan

 

[BooCocky]

Alright this should be easy....

1. Jeff vs HHH Armageddon 2007
2. Jeff vs Umaga Gab 2007
3. Jeff vs Kennedy Cyber Sunday 2007
4. Jeff vs Kennedy Raw 7/23/07
5. Jeff vs jeff jarrett TNA
6. Jeff vs Monty Brown Genesis 2005
7. Jeff vs Nitro Unforgiven 2006
8. Jeff vs nitro Raw 11/13/06
9. Jeff vs Regal vs Santino vs Shelton Raw early july
10.Jeff vs Shelton Benjamin Raw fall

So theres your ten matches Y2jake(or should i say jeff's #1 fan), 10 matches without a single weapon used.
So i guess you are now a uber Jeff Hardy fan

But none of those were really that good. The point is Mr Sams wanted 5 good non gimmick matches. None of those fit the category of a good match. At least IMO. Well I dont know about the TNA ones because i wasn't watching TNA around that time.

 

[Fratelli]

heres 5 of hardys greatest matches with weapons just for fun and u cant deny any of these arent classics

1.all tlc matches/triangle ladder matches
2.hardy vs taker - wwe title
3.hardys vs edge & christian - unforgiven steel cage
4.money in the bank
5.jeff hardy vs rvd feud

 

[Shocky]

Didn't he say ten good matches? Those matches were all crap, with a possible, possible exception of the Umaga match. The only good Jeff Hardy match was his IC Title match back in 01ish.

 

[sean5993]

i liked the hardy-orton match last july i believe it was in

 

[lionheart01]

But none of those were really that good. The point is Mr Sams wanted 5 good non gimmick matches. None of those fit the category of a good match. At least IMO. Well I dont know about the TNA ones because i wasn't watching TNA around that time.

Yes but different people think different matches are good. its a difference of opinion. If its about finding "good" matches then it would be impossible because everyone has thier own opinion.

I thought all of these matches where very good, especially the ones with shelton benjamin in it because his matches are always good.

But the overall point is that i have given you 10 non-gimmick matches that i thought were "good". But i guess you all could debate whether or not they are "good"

 

[Master of Masks]

Drawing Power? Mic Skills? Merchandise sales? Or when he can work a match and get a good reaction without doing a flip, then we can talk...

BRIAN BECKER IS A GOD: you say that when jeff hardy doesent win witha flip we'll talk. Well look no further: He beat johnny nitro with a twist of fate... No flips or any thing.

i mean if you slightly changed his gimmick he will be fine. But as of now he is not ready for championship status yet. And Ortons mic skills arent too well either. i mean its blah im randy orton...ledgen blah kller meaah if any one has seen team america world police with matt damon

raaaanndy orrtoon.

 

[LashedOut1121]

I don't see why you people can hate Jeff Hardy because he does big moves. It's Damn entertaining. I'd rather watch Jeff Hardy fight then all the technical wrestlers who grab eachother. Also so what if he took drugs, I don't see you people complaining about Benoit or Davey Boy Smith. Steroids are worse compared to Marijuana in case you guys havn't noticed.

 

[Bernkastel]

Jeff is the worst of things: a spot monkey that can only do a single flip in one fall. He usually just falls rather than jumping anyway.

I've seen women do a better swanton than jeff

 

[Bernkastel]

I don't see why you people can hate Jeff Hardy because he does big moves. It's Damn entertaining. I'd rather watch Jeff Hardy fight then all the technical wrestlers who grab eachother. Also so what if he took drugs, I don't see you people complaining about Benoit or Davey Boy Smith. Steroids are worse compared to Marijuana in case you guys havn't noticed.

Wasn't Jeff addicted to heroin, thats much worse than steroids

 

[greer44644]

Jeff hardy is a great entertaner , but if he wnts to be better he needs to do more than jump off a ladder or jump around the ring. And from my scoures i am led to beleive that he was only on weed and painkillers. wich should not be taken away from his in ring acolaids. In my opinion he should move up to main eventer till john cena gets back .