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The McMahon Family Drama: Where It's Going

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According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the storyline involving Vince, Stephanie & Triple H is being planned to be one of the focal points of WrestleMania XXX. As of right now, Stephanie looks as though she's going to be phased out of the picture, mostly, with virtually all of the attention focused on Triple H & Vince. She's scheduled to be featured through SummerSlam before her presence is considerably toned down.

As for WrestleMania itself, it's looking like Triple H is going to wrestle against a surrogate for Vince, a representative of Vince's interests. The winner of said match will ultimately wind up gaining control of WWE, at least on camera. There's no word on who the surrogate will be right now.

All in all, if this is accurate and they stick to this plan, then it's going to end up as a lot of people were thinking. It could be good or bad, depending on how it's booked, how much air time is devoted to it and how smooth the delivery of the build up is. If they're going for something in which the future of the company is at stake, then I'm hoping that there's not a lot of comedy involved. Triple H making a few snide remarks now and then, like we saw on Raw Monday, is perfectly fine; but I hope it doesn't degenerate into some series of juvenile jokes, skits and general insults that drag on for months.

If Stephanie plays any significant role in it post SummerSlam then, and this is just my opinion, I'd rather see her cast as someone that's trying to mediate things between the two of them. After all, it's her hubby & her papa at each other's throats; so I think it'd have a natural feel if she played an emotionally distraught woman caught in the middle due to loyalty to the two most important men in her life. Nothing too over the top, she doesn't need to come off like she's hysterical.
 
I have zero interest in seeing any storyline that revolves around Vince, Steph and HHH at the same time, I've just seen these people feud with each other way too much over the years and in all honesty I haven't wanted to see it since Wrestlemania 2000.

I'm not gonna trash the storyline or anything, I don't know what's gonna happen but going off their past storylines the odds are it's just going to be 2 guys pulling dumb shit on each other and the storyline is going to get WAY too much time. I hope I'm wrong but looking at past RAW's there's really no reason for me to think differently at this point.

I don't have a problem running past storylines but how many times can you run the same storyline with the exact same people? They've feuded at least 3 times in the past getting close to 6 months or more each time. How fresh can you make this one? How can you make this one different? They've both been the face in these storyline's, they've both been the heel in these storylines, they've already had power struggles between both guys, I just don't know what they can do to make it fresh.

Here's hoping they surprise me.
 
While I can't say I'm enjoying the storyline very much right now, I like where it's headed if the WON is to be believed. WWE needs to get its authority figure situation in order, because it's a mess. I'd rather they address it and resolve this plot sooner rather than later, but so long as there's a light at the end of the tunnel I'm happy.

Who Vince McMahon's representative in a match for control of WWE would be has me interested. My first thought was Shane McMahon, but that's probably less likely than Vince wrestling the match himself given Shane's current position. There aren't any Superstars around right now that seem to be exactly chummy with Vince, not that that matters a whole lot. However, in such a personal feud as father-in-law versus son-in-law for control of the family business, the father-in-law's enforcer would have more impact if he had a vested interest other than a simple plot device like money or promises of career enhancement should he win. WWE could always get a former Corporation stable member, but that was ages ago in wrestling time. I had Ken Shamrock in mind, because he'd follow Brock Lesnar as a shoot fighter who Triple H could put himself over. Like I said though, The Corporation ended 14 years ago. Plus Shamrock himself is pretty irrelevant these days. In any event, Vince's surrogate could make or break this rumored match. It has to make sense and the guy has to not suck.

I'm just hoping that if this is where they're headed, they do so a little more subtly. The Vickie Guerrero job evaluation was horrible. What's more, WrestleMania is still a long way out. I could see myself getting sick of this feud by Survivor Series at the pace and frequency with which they're pushing it. Long-term booking is great, but there has to be a crescendo, not just one long, loud, sustained note.
 
Honestly, the only way this will be of any interest to me is if they use this angle as a way to get a new guy over. The problem with that is that HHH has to lose, and I don't see that happening. I'd LOVE it if Vince were to pull McIntyre out of the Gawd awful 3MB faction and go back to being the Chosen One and have him beat HHH at Mania. I know it's wishful thinking but still it'd be a better use for Drew.
 
I'm digging the storyline so far because it's been a slow burn, and you can see where it's headed with the eventual showdown. The question is who will represent Vince.

Myself, I think this is a perfect scenario for a guy like Ambrose or Wyatt. I can easily see Vince McMahon bringing either the Shield or the Wyatt Family in. I actually prefer the Wyatt's more right now. The hook could be that McMahon is starting to make worse and worse decisions for the company (a la wanting to keep Vickie as GM, and making Maddox the GM in her stead). In a slight retake on The Corporate Ministry, Bray Wyatt and McMahon form an alliance, with Wyatt being the guy pulling the strings on McMahon for a change. Naturally, this develops into the Triple H Vs. Bray Wyatt match for control of the WWE at WrestleMania. By all accounts, Wyatt can go in the ring, so this would be a great opportunity for that.
 
Am I the only one that thinks WWE already has the perfect guy in mind to face Triple H at WrestleMania 30? Last week, after Vince took care of a distraught Vickie G, she was leaving with all of her possessions, until she was stopped by Ryback. Everybody is talking about this leading to Ryback managing Vickie, but what if that in itself leads to Vince McMahon choosing Ryback to battle Triple H...

Vince could say that just like himself, Ryback saw the value in Vickie, and Ryback knows the WWE is better off with Vince in charge than Triple H. Plus, in real life, Vince has always had a hard on for the muscle bound wrestlers, lol...

Assuming this match happens at WM XXX, (Triple H w/ Stephanie McMahon vs Ryback w/ Vince McMahon and Vickie Guerrero), I would say this could fit into the card very well, as it doesn't take anybody's slot in the title pictures, and it leaves Undertaker to come back and have one last dream match. What do you guys think?
 
I have interest in this storyline if the plan to add a bunch of up and comers to the mold come WrestleMania time. A 5 on 5 match between the team of Vince McMahon and Triple H would pretty epic. For example: Team Vince: Ryback, Curtis Axel and the Shield vs Team HHH: Triple H, Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Big E Langston and another name to make it a 5 on 5 match. This would lead to either Triple H or Vince getting full control of the WWE.

I would say this story has legs to it and could easily go somewhere if booked correctly with the right guys involved. The feud between Hunter and Vince is building slowly but come WrestleMania time, it will get more serious.
 
However it plays out leading up to Wrestlemania 30, if it's Vince's representative VS Triple H, you know Triple H is going to win at Mania, with Vince passing the proverbial torch to Trips at Mania or Raw the next night. Stroyline wise, they've been teasing Triple H taking full control since Punk won at MITB '11, and Triple H came out the next night to announce his COO position, relieving McMahon of his "duties."

I've been hot and cold on the backstage segments involving Triple H, Stephanie, and Vince. Sometimes they're able to bring some laughs out of me, and sometimes they annoy me, mainly the segments where Triple H, Vince, and Stephanie constantly bullied Vickie throughout the night. Most of the friction is between Vince and Triple H, and Stephanie should play the wife and daughter, who's torn and stuck in the middle up until Wrestlemania 30.

With that said, it's hard to pick the guy, who'll represent Vince now, because it's too early. Ryback sounds like a nice choice, but I can't see how losing to Triple H would help him. I mean, there's no shame in losing to a surefire Hall Of Famer and thirteen time world champion, but Ryback's character has suffered so many setbacks since his Hell In A Cell match with Punk. And I don't think he'll be able to climb out of the hole after losing to Triple H at Mania.

I would expect a more strong effort for peace from Stephanie during the build to Mania 30, but hopefully she won't go nuts with the over the top and melodramatic hysterics. I also wouldn't mind a surprise appearance from Shane to talk some sense into Vince, or Vince and Triple H.
 
I see it going to Survivor Series first, with Vince leading a team with Ryback and four other heels who HHH has pissed off in the past(probably Axel in there) and HHH having a team full of faces Vince pissed off (Bryan considering the backstage segments, Orton if he isn't heel yet and others). Vince wins and assumes control. Then they'll find some way to re-open the wound and make it lead to WM, where HHH beats a Vince surrogate and possibly a Steph surrogate in a triple threat. Not too terribly excited for it imo but I'm willing to see how it pans out
 
Am I the only one that thinks WWE already has the perfect guy in mind to face Triple H at WrestleMania 30? Last week, after Vince took care of a distraught Vickie G, she was leaving with all of her possessions, until she was stopped by Ryback. Everybody is talking about this leading to Ryback managing Vickie, but what if that in itself leads to Vince McMahon choosing Ryback to battle Triple H...

Vince could say that just like himself, Ryback saw the value in Vickie, and Ryback knows the WWE is better off with Vince in charge than Triple H. Plus, in real life, Vince has always had a hard on for the muscle bound wrestlers, lol...

Assuming this match happens at WM XXX, (Triple H w/ Stephanie McMahon vs Ryback w/ Vince McMahon and Vickie Guerrero), I would say this could fit into the card very well, as it doesn't take anybody's slot in the title pictures, and it leaves Undertaker to come back and have one last dream match. What do you guys think?

The only problem with this is that Ryback would have to lose. The WWE would NEVER EVER let Ryback lose an important ppv match such as this one. It might damage his credibility...

...All kidding aside there's a lot of opportunity to build hype and make money off of Vince's in-ring representative.

There's plenty of opportunity to bring back somebody for this match. I know the WWE needs to build more new stars, but this is supposed to be the biggest Wrestlemania ever:

The best thing they could do here is provide something unexpected.
-It's incredibly improbable, but bringing back Stone Cold Steve Austin to represent Vince would be an awesome unexpected twist, considering their history. Unfortunately, Steve's shown no interest in doing "one more match"

-Having Shawn Michaels return just to turn his back on HHH would be a pretty big deal. I can't think of a logical explanation why that would happen, but it would be great for both performers to end their legacy against each other at the biggest Wrestlemania ever.

-If they keep Randy Orton in directionless limbo, this might be where he fits into a role of gained relevance and he will finally get that heel turn he's been begging for.

-They could bring back Batista. I know there are several threads dedicated to chatter of a Batista return, but it isn't my goal to make this one of them, so I'll stop here.

-Cena IS the ultimate company man. It wouldn't be that out of left field for him to represent his employer.

Honestly, at this point it could be anyone. I'm kind of disappointed that we have to deal with this story line for the next 40 episodes of Raw. This storyline isn't the best WWE's ever done, nor is it the worst. The problem is, they've given themselves A LOT of time for viewers to lose interest.
 
The only problem with this is that Ryback would have to lose. The WWE would NEVER EVER let Ryback lose an important ppv match such as this one. It might damage his credibility...

...All kidding aside there's a lot of opportunity to build hype and make money off of Vince's in-ring representative.

There's plenty of opportunity to bring back somebody for this match. I know the WWE needs to build more new stars, but this is supposed to be the biggest Wrestlemania ever:

The best thing they could do here is provide something unexpected.
-It's incredibly improbable, but bringing back Stone Cold Steve Austin to represent Vince would be an awesome unexpected twist, considering their history. Unfortunately, Steve's shown no interest in doing "one more match"

-Having Shawn Michaels return just to turn his back on HHH would be a pretty big deal. I can't think of a logical explanation why that would happen, but it would be great for both performers to end their legacy against each other at the biggest Wrestlemania ever.

-If they keep Randy Orton in directionless limbo, this might be where he fits into a role of gained relevance and he will finally get that heel turn he's been begging for.

-They could bring back Batista. I know there are several threads dedicated to chatter of a Batista return, but it isn't my goal to make this one of them, so I'll stop here.

-Cena IS the ultimate company man. It wouldn't be that out of left field for him to represent his employer.

Honestly, at this point it could be anyone. I'm kind of disappointed that we have to deal with this story line for the next 40 episodes of Raw. This storyline isn't the best WWE's ever done, nor is it the worst. The problem is, they've given themselves A LOT of time for viewers to lose interest.

Batista might not be abad choice, but it's been done at Mania.

No one wants to see Cena or Orton vs HHH at Mania ever again.

HBK would be a cool twist since they've never gone one on one at Mania, but Shawn has done a lot of talking about Flair 'coming back' after their retirement match that I think he'll stay shelved.

I think they need the legs to get it there though. I could see them putting together a five on five for Survivor Series where it's just a pride thing. I wouldn't have HHH wrestle in it though. Then, when Vince's team wins, HHH decides he has to do it himself. I could see them doing a match where HHHputs up his COO job at RR, and he loses to someone of Vince's choosing, maybe Axel. Then HHH challenges Vince to put up the Chairman job. Vince refuses to use Axel again, setting up a face turn and major push, and chooses to use someone with more experience, and he brings in Batista?!!
 
I Just Hope Shane Will Show Up. I Thought He Was Fun, but it's Gonna Be very Hard 2 Recreate Their Previous magic. I Think Vince, Stephanie And HHH Are Going To Find This Out.
 
I Just Hope Shane Will Show Up. I Thought He Was Fun, but it's Gonna Be very Hard 2 Recreate Their Previous magic. I Think Vince, Stephanie And HHH Are Going To Find This Out.

Having Shane turn up would be awesome! But would it replicate when it was WWF vs WCW vs ECW with the family feuding for control?

Shane "O" could come in and side with vince, leaving HHH and Steph vs Vince and Shane.....leading to a match where HHH finds a male representative for Steph in a 2 vs 2 match. What I'd like to see? Vince & Shane vs HHH & Maddox! Imagine?! :)
 
It hasn't been the most well executed storyline so far but with so much time till Mania, I have faith it can be redeemed. I think the key factor is who is chosen as Vince's representative. To be involved in a McMahon feud at arguably the biggest Wrestlemania in history against one of the top superstars of the past decade is one hell of a rub, and I would be bitterly disappointed if that rub went to someone who doesn't need it e.g. Batista.

On the flip side, Vince's guy needs to be slightly established and there is a few people I'd love to see get the chance. I think Wade Barrett would really benefit from being involved in this feud, as well as someone like a Antonio Cesaro or maybe even a heel Miz. I think the heel Miz scenario is the most intriguing to me and I think it might help him get out of the slight rut he is in at the moment.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Shane O'Mac involved for Team Vince and I think a Vince/Shane/Miz trio would be an interesting dynamic on the road to Wrestlemania. In the short term, there's no need to rush but I would expect this storyline to really heat up around Survivor Series or maybe a little later.
 
If they're going for something in which the future of the company is at stake, then I'm hoping that there's not a lot of comedy involved.

Yes, that would make sense. I'd love to see a power struggle that's done as a non-yielding "Good vs. Evil" battle......with no real surprises beyond the new characters that enter the fray. Nix on the funny stuff.

Really, having the McMahons lead the way is the factor that's been setting up this scenario for a long time already, since they really do own the damn place and have taken a largely passive role in the proceedings for several years. When Stephanie was the one handing down Vickie Guerrero's fate, it struck me that she hasn't done anything like that since the days of the McMahon-Helmsley Faction and that having her father standing next to her while she did it demonstrated almost a passing of the torch. Towards that, we don't even know if the three members of the family will be united as a force.....or whether they'll be opposing one another. After all, Vince was against what his daughter and son-in-law were doing to Vickie. Using her as a focal point is absurd, but there could be other points of contention between the new guard and old.

But if they're operating as a unit, who's on the other side? Yes, the logical one is John Cena......and yes, many of you will have a flaming shitfit if he is. But it probably wouldn't be just him as leader; perhaps Cena and Punk unite for the sake of taking down the McMahons.....which reminds me of Cena getting heels like Chris Jericho and Edge to join him in opposing Nexus. The shifting alliances could be really exciting.

The possibilities are endless, but execution is everything. If it's done right, it could make NWO vs. WCW look like backyard wrestling.

Should be quite a summer.
 
I said this in another thread but this just points to HHH with HBK as a manager vs The Big Show with Vince as manager. I'm being pessimistic but this whole storyline feels rehashed and boring. There needs to be something different. The Vickie evaluation segment was the worst on Raw but I don't mind Vince and HHH is one of my favourite wrestlers of all time.

If these two do feud, which ultimately ends in a match at WM30, Vince will turn heel and start recruiting. Ryback and The Shield are the obvious names. Guys like Lesnar, Rhodes, Sandow, Barrett, perhaps the Wyatt Family could be used also. Stay away from The Big Show, Mysterio, The Miz and even Mark Henry. My best guess is that Lesnar will be kept away from this storyline.

Presuming it will be a split in the roster of "Vince guys" and "Triple H" guys": Survivor Series could be something like The Shield, Ryback (Rhodes) and Barrett vs HHH, Jericho, CM Punk and The Brothers of destruction than that is a job well done. There are less experienced stars to put over; big names to make the match a draw and genuine talent.

If they want to pursue this feud than go big or don't even start. Wrestlemania 30 cannot be HHH vs Vince/Ryback/Mark Henry/Big Show/Alberto Del Rio/ The Great Khali or anyone similar. It should be a younger star that could be put over; Barrett, Wyatt or Ambrose. There is not a "number one heel" in the WWE and that could be a problem. There isn't an obvious name to make this feud interesting other than someone less experienced.

This feud could work but, in all likelihood, The Big Show will get involved and it will be boring and generic. I hope I'm wrong because then it will be exciting.
 
Shane "O" could come in and side with vince, leaving HHH and Steph vs Vince and Shane.....leading to a match where HHH finds a male representative for Steph in a 2 vs 2 match. What I'd like to see? Vince & Shane vs HHH & Maddox! Imagine?! :)

Brilliant idea with the tag match but instead of Maddox I think HBK would be best. Sure the DX reunion storyline has been done so many times and the DX VS The McMahons feud/match has been done a lot as well now but who doesn't get excited when they here "Are you ready?".
 
I think that the person to represent Vince will probably be one of his "pet projects;" Fandango (ugh) or Ryback. Unless he wins MITB on Sunday and puts together some legit momentum until his cash in (basically the anti-Ziggler approach), I can't see it being Fandango. He was a two week craze that only took off because his gimmick was deemed so bad it's good. Ryback is a different story. He currently has negative momentum because Creative has completely destroyed his character. However, facing HHH at WM and having Hunter actually - gasp - put someone else over on the big stage could do wonders for his career. Unfortunately, it would also put Vince back in charge, which I don't think is the direction that people in charge want to go. The idea seems to be for life to imitate art and for Vince to gradually step aside both on-screen and off. This also explains why, with the exception of a couple of crappy Raws, the product has gotten consistently better since WM 29. Another possible candidate could be - should be? - Bray Wyatt. If the red carpet that was rolled out for him last Monday is any indication, Vince, HHH, and pretty much every other WWE decision maker thinks he is the long-term future of the company. Win or lose, a WM match against HHH 9 months into his time on the main roster would boost him into the upper echelon of stars in the company assuming it's done well.
 
I haven't been interested in anything involving Triple H for years, I've never felt he was very good as a face as he is so smug. With Vince I feel he is also better as a heel and it looks like that is what he'll be here, although I love Sally's idea of them ending up on the same page and the angle taking a different direction than is expected.

I guess that is the beauty of starting an angle nearly 10 months prior to the actual scheduled blow off match, they have plenty of time to see what is working and tailor it before the big night. The thing is I do wonder how they can keep it going given that it features two guys who don't wrestle (or in Trips case is down to about 3 matches a year), although I have a couple of ideas.

Looking at the likely path of Triple H as the face I like the idea of Team Triple H vs Team Vince at Mania, but I don't see Triple H sharing the spotlight and I imagine the team match is more likely to happen at Survivor Series if it happens at all.

So Triple vs someone at Mania in a singles match is most probably where things will go, now I'd love to see Rock as Vince's surrogate as then I'd have the two guys I like least facing each other in an angle I don't care about, thus keeping wrestlers I am a fan of free to do other things.

However I'm going to take a wild guess this far out and say Triple H vs Del Rio w/Vince will be the WrestleMania 30 match for the company.
 
I for one, just don't see this storyline going anywhere.:banghead: I'm not entertained at all. To me Vince hasn't been entertaining in at least ten years. If the company does follow with this storyline I just hope it stops at WrestleMania.
 
^ yeah that's one of the negatives of the storyline carrying on till WM XXX .. you have a lot of time to lost interest in it.

"but this whole storyline feels rehashed and boring." ... I tend to agree, I mean what the McMahon's are just going to bicker on till Vince chooses a representative

who could be anyone from Big Show (no thanks) Del Rio, or The Rock (doubt his movie schedule will allow it)

I'm a bit bias though as Vince being in big time angles has worn out it's welcome.

the feuds with Stone Cold, Donald Trump, Lashley, DX/HBK .. lets not forget the agonizingly long squash match vs Michaels at WM, I mean when is enough enough?

my only question for WM XXX is will there be a McMahon in every corner?
 
It needs to end with Vince getting the Shield on his side and Triple H having a couple attitude era guys on his side like Jericho and Mankind or if possible Angle if his contract with TNA runs out. Stone Cold should have a match with CM Punk and Rock should be involved with someone. Wrestlemania XXX needs ti be a turning point where the attitude are guys go away for good, have whoever isn't inducted into the hall of fame inducted and have them all stop wrestling forever. The match between the shield and Triple H and whoever can have a stipulation that if you wrestled for WWF/WWE in the late 90's you can't wrestle ever again unless you're super duper special
 
I would like to see it end with returning heel McMahon/Helmsley Era 2.0 getting full control. A new Corporation like stable built around young talent.
 
I say this has the potential to be good. It shouldn't be overused to much keep it at the pace it is. It's has at least a couple minutes of screen time and its nothing over the top. Since Triple H most likely will win Vince has to have someone who can lose as his representer someone like Big Show, Kane, or Mark Henry
 
Having Shane turn up would be awesome! But would it replicate when it was WWF vs WCW vs ECW with the family feuding for control?

This is what I want. I know a lot of people don't, but I do.

It would give WWE a chance to make up for the disaster that was the Invasion angle in 2001. You could even bring Sting in for this one.

Here's how I have my game set up on WWE 13: WWE Raw on Monday nights and WCW Heat on Friday nights.

It makes sense for a couple of reasons, but the main one is that it would give the World Heavy Championship some meaning again. Have the WWE title on the WWE show and put that one on the WCW show. Have a true roster split and stick to it.

This could come about by this Wrestlemania angle. Maybe the match for control ends in a draw. So Team HHH gets one show and Team Vince get the other show.
 

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